When Should You add Curing Salt to Smoked Sausage?

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2 Guys & A Cooler

2 Guys & A Cooler

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@ChudsBbq
@ChudsBbq 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Eric for making this vid! I posted a video last week where I smoked a sausage at 200 without pink salt and got a lot of questions about it, now I can just send them this vid! lol I even put them in front of a fan for 30 min!
@2guysandacooler
@2guysandacooler 2 жыл бұрын
LOL. That's awesome!!! Funny enough I am making your smash burger sausage tomorrow!!!! SMASHBUREGER SAUSAGE HERE WE COME!!!
@soumynonareverse7807
@soumynonareverse7807 2 жыл бұрын
Now that both if you will see my comment: I live in Europe and I want to make a Texas brisket-like sausage. (SP and maybe G sausage) The only problem is, I can't find a recipe that tells me how much kosher salt and how much curing salt I need to use as you just use kosher salt on brisket. Is there a guideline to how much 0,6% curing salt I should use if I don't want to rush making sausage? I am going to put them on a smoker at or above 225 btw.
@2guysandacooler
@2guysandacooler 2 жыл бұрын
Hey soumynonA, here's what you need to know. When it comes to making a sausage (and you can apply this to all sausages) start with a salt content of 1.5%. That's a middle of the road place to start. Once your sausage is made you can determine if on your next batch you want to increase or decrease it. As far as curing salts are concerned you are going to add .25% cure #1. All of these percentages are by the final weight of your meat and fat. So, if you have 1000g of meat and fat you would add 15g kosher salt and 2.5g cure #1. Make sense. One final thought. Cooking a sausage at 225f is a hot and fast way to cook a sausage! Your sausage will be finished cooking in only a couple hours. If you want more smoke flavor in your sausage, I recommend starting much lower (let's say 150f) and smoking for 3 hours. Then increasing the temp to 175f (for an hour), then finishing them off at 225f (till you get to your desired cooking temp). I would finish my sausage off at 145f. 😉
@soumynonareverse7807
@soumynonareverse7807 2 жыл бұрын
@@2guysandacooler oow, I see. And 145F, is that assuming you use beef or other kinds of meat aswell? Also, how much pepper and/or garlic would you add as a starting point?
@2guysandacooler
@2guysandacooler 2 жыл бұрын
@@soumynonareverse7807 Pepper and garlic is a personal preference. If you want a very heavy pepper flavor you could add 1%, same with garlic. Personally, I would use a .8% pepper and a .6% garlic. But that's just me.
@nivekernst
@nivekernst 2 жыл бұрын
The best video I have seen explaining the danger zone and how it relates to smoking sausage. Thank you for creating this video. This channel is awesome!
@objuan1890
@objuan1890 Жыл бұрын
Wow, thank you, Eric! I am getting ready to make some Polish sausage for Easter. I would never have had to think or worry about this as I always use curing salt in my sausage that I plan on smoking This year my daughter-in-law is pregnant and said her doctor said she cannot have curing salts, processed meat, ham, etc. Had I not watched this video I would have said, let's set the smoker temp to 160, to be safe. Going dial it in at 210 degrees. Thank you again!
@stevieg4201
@stevieg4201 Жыл бұрын
Hi Eric, when I’m smoking sausage or other meats, I usually smoke at 225*f, I use my remote temperature probe to know when I’ve reached my target temps, with any smoked sausage I always use #1, it just makes me feel better about what I’m doing, I’m fairly new to this, but I take alot of pride in what I do, I believe part of that is safety and knowing my product is safe for the people I gift it to. Thanks for all you do brother. 🇮🇹😎🇮🇹
@2guysandacooler
@2guysandacooler Жыл бұрын
I bet that produces a very tasty sausage!!
@stevieg4201
@stevieg4201 Жыл бұрын
@@2guysandacooler I screwed up, I meant to say 225*, my apologies 🙈
@tomsanda4543
@tomsanda4543 2 жыл бұрын
Another eye opening delve into the often forgotten/misunderstood world of cures/times/temps. Thanx again Eric helping us stay safe while blissfully enjoying this charcuterie/sausage hobby
@fredkeele6578
@fredkeele6578 Жыл бұрын
Glad i watched this one. Ive bought jerky seasoning, sausage seasoning, and curing salts. Ive held off because of info being discussed. Im no rookie to cooking, BBQ, ans smoking, but making bulk products has me apprehensive. As others have mentioned, i dont want myself, or anyone else getting sick or worse. Reading some recipes online got my attention regarding the #1 and #2 cures, and when to use which one. Thanks for rhe info.
@rossmcgee7606
@rossmcgee7606 2 жыл бұрын
Eric as alway, a very excellent and informative tutorial. The production of your video’s are the best in the You Tube category!
@2guysandacooler
@2guysandacooler 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, thanks!
@superllama6051
@superllama6051 Жыл бұрын
Wow! My mind is blown. Thank you for helping me understand the problem and fixing it.
@scotturnquist1240
@scotturnquist1240 4 ай бұрын
Being a newbie to sausage making, this helped me out immensely. Thanks for making this lesson.
@Billbobaker
@Billbobaker Ай бұрын
Thanks for making such an informative video. I don't have the equipment for smoking that you do so I always add the .025 of curing salt per overall weight of the ham or bacon and sausage.
@rotaryperfection
@rotaryperfection Ай бұрын
Very educational video. I've been experimenting with 150degree no cure for a few months at 4hr total cook time. Now, for safety reasons, I'll just start off at 200 unitl it hits 145 and then drop my temp down to 150 and let her get all nice and smokey.
@SteveShivik
@SteveShivik 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you :) I'm brand new to making sausage and this is persistently the hardest and scariest thing for me to gauge with my inexperience. I was honestly terrified to share my first batch- everything went totally fine in the end but I was panicked for day or so waiting for a call of someone with food poisoning or other lol.
@2guysandacooler
@2guysandacooler 2 жыл бұрын
LOL. I know the feeling. I remember when I made my first ever batch of salami many years ago. I was a nervous wreck. 😅 Welcome to the craft!! If you ever have any issues or questions, know that you can always reach out and I will try to help😉
@dartheo9148
@dartheo9148 Жыл бұрын
I've recently gotten back into sausage making and wanted to thank you for this and all your other videos. It really does help dispel any doubts I had with preparation and cook times. Thank you!
@soleboxy
@soleboxy Жыл бұрын
this camera is so crisp i can see the exact amount of hours he didn't sleep. very professional (love the kenny loggins reference)
@ArielK1987
@ArielK1987 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly this was the video that I was looking for. The other ones were little too complicated for my understanding.
@AT502
@AT502 4 ай бұрын
"There are some KZbin channels that are just getting into the craft and have no business teaching it..." That can probably be said for 90% of the KZbinrs who give advice regarding most any subject in existence. You Tube, to me is like wading through a plethora of personal reviews on any given marketable item, in that for every 300 one may find 1 worth noting and this channel is one that is worth noting.
@R1Kyle
@R1Kyle 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video for those out there dancing with botulism! I cold smoke at about 32-35 deg F for many hours at a time, welcome to Canada in the winter. I do this for both sausages that will be cooked to an internal temp of 150 or greater or sausages that are dry cured through both the smoking process and the dry aging process.
@2guysandacooler
@2guysandacooler 2 жыл бұрын
That's the safest way to do it naturally😉
@joeguammusic
@joeguammusic Жыл бұрын
What a great video! This answered all my questions - thanks Eric!!!
@kevinmcneely1919
@kevinmcneely1919 6 ай бұрын
Love your approach to education, this helps me more than any other video or written material.
@AndyL.-bk4rn
@AndyL.-bk4rn 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for posting this video. It’s extremely helpful, educational and worthwhile watching. I love videos that explore the different variables like you’ve done here. Food safety is no joke and you make it fun and entertaining to watch!
@martin41s
@martin41s 2 жыл бұрын
You have the best channel on sausage making and some of the best recipes which I have tried. Thank you
@2guysandacooler
@2guysandacooler 2 жыл бұрын
You are so welcome!
@stevemarx415
@stevemarx415 Жыл бұрын
I live in the tropics Even at night bits 29degree days are 40 plus all year round . Since discovering curing salts . I haven't had a bad batch
@Newenglandah1376
@Newenglandah1376 3 ай бұрын
Finally an actual video with some good info. new to sausage but not to food and safety. TY Now on to how to store, how long and best practices. after out of the smoker.
@drewrobinson9120
@drewrobinson9120 2 жыл бұрын
Always been told that when smoking under 200F that you needed to use curing salts. This has been my guiding rule for smoking meats period, be it bacon, ham, or sausage.
@2guysandacooler
@2guysandacooler 2 жыл бұрын
Whoever told you that knows what they are talking about😁.
@drewrobinson9120
@drewrobinson9120 2 жыл бұрын
@@2guysandacooler Great grandfather, was the one that imparted that wisdom. Of course he grew up in mountains of east TN, before there was electric in the area so meat preservation was kind of important.
@MadPick
@MadPick 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, what a tremendously helpful video! I know the 40-140 rule, but I typically don't consider the internal temp because most of what I smoke are solid cuts. But yeah, with the ground meat in sausage . . . different story. Thank you, Eric. I have definitely violated the rule in a big way in past batches. I'll do better next time!
@johnmiller-kr4jy
@johnmiller-kr4jy 2 жыл бұрын
Good morning Eric Great topic, I myself smoke with a big chief old school . living in Alberta these smokers don't have much chance of doing a winter smoking lol, I add cure as needed to all my sausage that way they get packaged and frozen that way I can smoke them in warmer weather, I also like the flavor and color enhancement it gives i also adjust for total salt in recipe . Keep making these very informative videos be safe and have a great day
@KnowPorcelain1
@KnowPorcelain1 2 жыл бұрын
The 2 videos you did on curing salts, and bacteria times are excellent advice, great video.
@kbr6783
@kbr6783 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video. As a kid we only made sausage in the winter months in Minnesota.
@eugenepanek3098
@eugenepanek3098 2 жыл бұрын
Been making sausage for about 3 years. When it comes to food safety I choose not play around and have used curing salts in all my smoke sausage. I prefer to smoke at lower temps. Much better results
@_TheRealGod
@_TheRealGod 9 ай бұрын
You just got yourself a subscriber. Very professional and informative! Well done.
@Alakarr
@Alakarr Жыл бұрын
Excellent video and apparently it's pretty badly needed. I have never smoked sausage, but have been smoking other meat for years. I have never smoked anything below 200f unless cold smoking salmon or cheese. I especially can't imagine smoking below that temp on any type of ground meat; it's just asking for trouble.
@great207
@great207 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the informative video. I am making some smoked sausage this weekend. Jalapeño cheddar and Linguiça calabresa, thanks to your videos/website.
@2guysandacooler
@2guysandacooler 2 жыл бұрын
Rock on!
@tempy2440
@tempy2440 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for using the best casish (for drying time) when doing the independant variable. i appreciate the scientific rigor and awareness of any fallacies the inexperienced may make.
@shonawilson8040
@shonawilson8040 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! It is so great you are teaching us the whys. I know want to know when its safe to consume curing salts - especially #1 as its used for under 30 day items.
@TheFishTankChannel
@TheFishTankChannel Жыл бұрын
I have a question for you, have you heard of or tried a 2 stage long smoking process? Method * grind * case * casing dry [fan dry 30 minutes] * high temp food safety heating stage 1 [use a Sous Vide bath at 180 or pellet grill at 200+] but only until the internal is 145. wireless Chef IQ probe in a sausage sealed in vac bag. Once the sausages are out of danger, then transfer them to a pellet grill or smoker set to 150 to 160 for long smoke stage?
@joesmith7427
@joesmith7427 Жыл бұрын
People need to know they can take a CFPM course, a must have in the USA to display,store, prepare, or serve food to the public! This includes food trucks, buffets, supermarkets,restaurants, schools,hotels,carts, private and public clubs,resorts, delivery people, where ever it maybe!! The couse perfit lasts 5 years, and there are rules about when and where! Food servers have a different permit, but they must have training also! 😊
@doloravillero3427
@doloravillero3427 4 ай бұрын
That's a very good info, thanks a lot Eric.....You are the expert when it comes to doing sausages, so, we must listen....😀.....thank you again....❤️ Watching you here in the PHILIPPINES ..
@907jl
@907jl 2 жыл бұрын
Well, it was worth a shot! Thanks for correcting me! Really enjoy your channel.
@2guysandacooler
@2guysandacooler 2 жыл бұрын
😅😅😉
@kevchard5214
@kevchard5214 2 жыл бұрын
Great video Eric. I figured the temp would be higher but I didn't realize it would be this much.
@clarkplucinski8940
@clarkplucinski8940 5 ай бұрын
Incredible work. Very well done
@Jen-iy7lq
@Jen-iy7lq 2 жыл бұрын
Incredibly informative!! Thanks so much for the demonstration; watching the whole process play out was interesting as well.
@theotherchris9770
@theotherchris9770 2 жыл бұрын
I would really like to see more on sous vide pasteurizing vacuum packed sausage. Like temp and times
@darrengartner5038
@darrengartner5038 2 жыл бұрын
Wow what a great video with helpful information!!! Always a pleasure to watch your content.....keep them coming!👍
@ahmadelchami5431
@ahmadelchami5431 Жыл бұрын
These are excellent information it needs lots of experience. Again you are the best.
@jameshicks8856
@jameshicks8856 Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate your sausage making classes because that's what they are for me . I'm partially disabled and using sausage and my food truck for supplemental income and don't want to get anybody sick by all means . When it comes to curing salt they make the meat safer but how much of the flavor does it change and to what amount . I have a gas upright smoker . And find it outside of my budget to purchase a digital smoker with a gas smoker would it be okay to use it . Keeping my temperature keeping my temperature at 195 to 205 for 2 hrs without the curing salt for a drying time for 60 minutes .
@2guysandacooler
@2guysandacooler Жыл бұрын
Your current smoker would work fine!! In my opinion the curing salt enhances the flavor, but it's not overwhelming.
@jameshicks8856
@jameshicks8856 Жыл бұрын
@@2guysandacooler thank you and I'm so very glad to hear that once I start building my seasoning Shelf .
@HogMan2022
@HogMan2022 Жыл бұрын
What a great video Eric! I am so glad I found your channel! Thank you very much!
@ScuffShuffleBBQ
@ScuffShuffleBBQ 6 ай бұрын
Great video. I really like the way you've explained this.
@filipologeanu3048
@filipologeanu3048 2 жыл бұрын
Very helpful video Eric, I would have loved a cros cut section so we can see de diference between the 150 f and 200 f, texturewise
@TheDevnul
@TheDevnul 2 жыл бұрын
Eric, bringing the recipe and the receipts. Thank so much for all this detail.
@KellyPauley
@KellyPauley Жыл бұрын
Another excellent video, sir. Your methodical approach and comprehensive explanation of safe food production benefit the viewers and likely ensure the audience enjoys healthful, delicious food items. Perhaps I missed it, you likely covered this, but it should be mentioned that many people feel that cooking sausages to a high temp would eliminate any hazard. That is not the case in foods that spend excessive time in the danger zone. In these temperature ranges (40-140), pathogens can develop toxins that are harmful if consumed, and they cannot be cooked out. The addition of curing salts in the formulation helps prevent the bacteria from producing these toxins.
@gunlabchris
@gunlabchris 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting and well explained
@2guysandacooler
@2guysandacooler 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it
@jimduffy9773
@jimduffy9773 2 жыл бұрын
Great advice! This video goes along well with other videos on curing salts that you have presented. Stay Safe! Thanks!
@thewholewheat5010
@thewholewheat5010 Жыл бұрын
ThanEric! This is awesome! Super helpful By the way, if you remember, my pancetta is about two days away from the desired moisture loss… very excited
@2guysandacooler
@2guysandacooler Жыл бұрын
Nice!!! Let me know how it goes
@thewholewheat5010
@thewholewheat5010 Жыл бұрын
@@2guysandacooler Eric! The pancetta is amazing! It was born out of a mistake and great advice from you! I will be (intentionally) doing this again! I wish there was some way to show you the results! Thanks again
@steverogers3931
@steverogers3931 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for this. I don't want nitrites due to the possible links to cancers. I have a new digital smoker so will try to replicate. Guessing you dried coming out from fridge temps to have it be about 60f before going into the smoker.
@scottgriegermusic
@scottgriegermusic Жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this, it’s very informative. I read elsewhere that under 4 hours in the danger zone is the limit, but 2!? It makes me question if not using a cure is worth it at all. If I am going through the trouble of making this stuff I’m gonna want to make a large batch that will last me. Not 3 links, and for a lot of meat it takes a long time to reach 140, even running at 250.
@southernoutdoors1862
@southernoutdoors1862 4 ай бұрын
Learning a lot from these guys!!! great channel and thanks 🙏🏻 again!!! Question what’s the negative of curing salt pink salt etc I am about to run some this weekend and planing on a cold smoke with curing salt
@johnkerechek6583
@johnkerechek6583 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent advice - thank you
@2guysandacooler
@2guysandacooler 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@warmsteamingpile
@warmsteamingpile 2 жыл бұрын
Another very educational video. Fortunately my small offset smoker is difficult to maintain below 200°.
@2guysandacooler
@2guysandacooler 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Most offsets can't get to those low temps, much less hold them consistently.
@firstnationsindian8062
@firstnationsindian8062 2 жыл бұрын
Valuable information. Well done video. Thank you.
@SCROWMD
@SCROWMD 8 ай бұрын
Great info and production.Thank you
@Ben_Stahl
@Ben_Stahl 2 жыл бұрын
If you were to set your sausage over night in a refrigerator to firm up between 12-24 hours would that allow for a lower smoking temp? While internally its starting out colder than 1 hour in front of a fan at room temp. Conversely it takes more time to heat up and become safe to eat. Thanks for the great informative videos Eric
@2guysandacooler
@2guysandacooler 2 жыл бұрын
You could but not by much. The sausage would still build up condensation after you pulled it out of the fridge and would need to be redried
@frankdirr1620
@frankdirr1620 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for your passion for this subject- your information is extremely helpful to making a safe meal. Being new to sausage making, I can not find a difinitiv answer to this question …. Assuming to have not used curing salt in preparation and was “in the danger zone” for more than two hours. ( say 3-to4 hours) Can you later cook out the risk when reheating your sausage by getting temperature over a certain level? Or once contaminated is it not fit for consumption?
@2guysandacooler
@2guysandacooler 4 ай бұрын
the safest answer is no. If your food is contaminated it can't be cooked out.
@frankdirr1620
@frankdirr1620 4 ай бұрын
@@2guysandacooler I am going to discs d to be on safe side. Thank You-
@dansong.tolman2793
@dansong.tolman2793 2 жыл бұрын
Great info, very useful.. sounds logical. Health is always the most important factor. Thanks for the video
@EricLofland
@EricLofland 2 жыл бұрын
Great info, love this and would like to see more sausage safety stuff!
@joesmith7427
@joesmith7427 Жыл бұрын
Eric, mention NSF on some of your shows. Alot of people dont know about it when choosing equipment. In florida, the health dept will show the door to equipment in a restaurant or meat processing business if it is not NSF approved! 😊
@brittjuliff5990
@brittjuliff5990 Жыл бұрын
I would be interested to see the same experiment cooking the sausages in a sous vide. Any idea what the results would be? Thanks for all your amazing work!
@DaleLoomis
@DaleLoomis 8 ай бұрын
I have been watching your videos I appreciate your wisdom thank you
@jccalhoun2904
@jccalhoun2904 2 жыл бұрын
I saw a skinless smoker sauce at the store. I think that would be a great video.
@NW_Media
@NW_Media 2 ай бұрын
What about when smoking while meat? I know a lot of people go low and slow around that 220 degree mark but the meat is much thicker and but don’t but curing salt on it? I’m knew to all the by the way
@Matt-1926
@Matt-1926 Жыл бұрын
Always a great video, thanks. Have you ever thought doing s smoked chipped ham recipe?
@BhajanSangeetSaini
@BhajanSangeetSaini 2 жыл бұрын
Much needed video. Thanks
@2guysandacooler
@2guysandacooler 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@SC-op3gp
@SC-op3gp Жыл бұрын
I have been making sausage out of my deer for years but I always stress on finishing temp. Some times when they reach an internal temp of 145 to 150 deg. the sausage temp stay at that temp for a hour or two with my smoker temp at 180 or 190 and I like to get to a 160 internal temp to be safe. My question is if you have ground pork in your sausage is 1 hour @ 150 the same an 1 minute at 160 deg. Thanks for your videos they are helpful
@shanegolding436
@shanegolding436 21 күн бұрын
Great video, really good interesting info. One question, if you bring it to 165f won’t that kill any bacteria?
@iamafractal
@iamafractal 10 ай бұрын
I’d say it’s possible to smoke sausage at refrigerated temperatures (
@darrenfindlay3732
@darrenfindlay3732 2 жыл бұрын
Great Video as always Eric !! Lovin your channel , Im new to the sausage making game and would like to know how you would describe how much pressure to apply to the sausage stuffing horn when casing i guess it just all comes down to time and experience.
@2guysandacooler
@2guysandacooler 2 жыл бұрын
That's a very good question. It does come down to experience but here's a tip that can help you get there quicker. While you are stuffing your sausage, lightly squeeze on the casing as it's coming off the horn. The flow should be nice and even. If you squeeze on the sausage with your thumb and pointer finger, you should be able to squeeze the sausage all the way without feeling like it's going to explode in your hands. If you squeeze and it feels very tight, then you've stuffed it a bit tighter than you should have. Just release the pressure on the casing the next time you stuff sausage. Hope that helps
@darrenfindlay3732
@darrenfindlay3732 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that tip Eric will definitely try this nxt time i make sausages 😁
@ARCSTREAMS
@ARCSTREAMS 15 күн бұрын
i made a small batch of dry cured sausage, after fermenting i do not think i waited for them to really dry much and put them in the cols smoker for almost 4 hrs, now it has been several weeks since they been dry curing in the fridge but im noticing the smoky smell has vastly diminished and is very suttle in taste kinda like not much adhered or went into the meat,, so im wondering should i have semi dried them a couple of weeks before smoking or should i smoke again once they are done drying and then seal them in ziploc bag for a few days to a couple of weeks?
@andrepatterson7058
@andrepatterson7058 2 жыл бұрын
Great and helpful information as always Eric 👍🏽. Question can you smoke sausage in a smoker to let them get enough smoke on them. And then put them in the oven until they reach 155°-160°. Then cool them down in a ice bath. And get the same result.
@2guysandacooler
@2guysandacooler 2 жыл бұрын
Yes technically you could but the result wouldn't be the same. Cooking low and slow is a gentler way of cooking a sausage. It's better for the texture, the fat, the flavor, the snap, pretty much in all ways. When you cook hot and fast you have to cook your sausage to a final temp that's hotter, it's less juicy, the fat is more likely to render. With that being said, you can do it. Just make sure that the internal is out of the danger zone in less than 2 hours (if you are not adding curing salts)
@andrepatterson7058
@andrepatterson7058 2 жыл бұрын
@@2guysandacooler thanks have a great blessed weekend 🙌🏾
@thatrick
@thatrick Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this very informative video! I was wondering how long you could dry sausage without curing salt in the refrigerator that's under 40 degrees and if the 2 hours would start after you take them out?
@scottgriegermusic
@scottgriegermusic Жыл бұрын
The 2 hours starts when the IT of the meat reaches 40. So you’d have some time after being removed from the fridge but probably not a lot.
@luisidiartegaray8734
@luisidiartegaray8734 3 ай бұрын
Hi! thanks for saher your passion! please let me know how can I acces to the web site, where I van put the KG for the meet and then calclute the cure parameters! tks in advance!
@2guysandacooler
@2guysandacooler 3 ай бұрын
twoguysandacooler.com
@ARCSTREAMS
@ARCSTREAMS 15 күн бұрын
ok so what do you do with them after hot smoking? are they ready to eat or do you let them sit in the fridge from there on or what?
@devils3003
@devils3003 Жыл бұрын
There's another variable that needs to be considered. How long did the product stay at that internal temperature and what was the final internal temperature. That's one reason sous vide is so good bc you can get pasteurization at lower temps. Bringing the internal tempature to 150 and holding it there for I believe 15 min would also kill most bad stuff. The usda has a whole time and temp chart on how to achieve what they call 7d reduction
@Voxphyle
@Voxphyle Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video. It makes me wonder, though.. what effect does it have if you dry overnight on a rack in the refrigerator? I imagine it would be sufficiently dry at that point. If you start from cold, it would at least buy you an additional 30 minutes, but I am curious if it would cook through the danger zone faster since the cooking process begins at a lower temperature.
@2guysandacooler
@2guysandacooler Жыл бұрын
when it comes out of the fridge it would start to sweat due to the temp change. you would still have to dry the sausage again
@Voxphyle
@Voxphyle Жыл бұрын
@2 Guys & A Cooler Ah, that makes sense. I hadn't thought of the condensation. Thanks for the reply and the awesome videos!
@leonelgallegos6896
@leonelgallegos6896 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for information! I had no idea.
@tclopez68
@tclopez68 2 жыл бұрын
That is a fantastic video. So informative. Keeping people safe in the craft. I tend to dry sausages overnight in the fridge. I'm guessing as long as the fridge is colder than 40 that's good to put in the offset as long as the internal temp gets to the safe level within the 2hours. The question is would the sausage split putting a cold sausage in a 200 to 225 smoker?
@2guysandacooler
@2guysandacooler 2 жыл бұрын
No. What will happen though is it will begin to form condensation and might affect the texture of the casing and even the color.
@tclopez68
@tclopez68 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. One other question, in the process of making the sausage. If it takes an hour and the meat temp is up to 40 degrees would that need to be taken from the 2hour safety time.
@2guysandacooler
@2guysandacooler 2 жыл бұрын
@@tclopez68 yes
@traceyevans2757
@traceyevans2757 Жыл бұрын
On an offset smoker I just cure your sausage and use a smoke tube or smoke maze with wood pellets, chips, or sawdust. After 4hrs the meats are definitely not above 145. Especially during the winter. It’s a true cold smoke.
@darrellobermann2315
@darrellobermann2315 2 жыл бұрын
In food service class they told us that somewhere past two hours of unsafe temps it could go from something that makes you sick to a toxin that can kill you. That stuck in my mind and while catering we followed those rules to the letter, and that makes cure a no brainer to me.
@2guysandacooler
@2guysandacooler 2 жыл бұрын
I agree!!
@TBONEVIKING
@TBONEVIKING Жыл бұрын
I love your channel! I am new to sausage making and just watching you before I even start because I want to be safe with the finished product. So, I have one big question that really leads to more questions. Can you dry your sausage on a drying rack in the refrigerator overnight as opposed to 30 minutes in front of a fan? Next question, since you are drying at a lower than 40 degrees; how do you calculate that time? So then, does the 2 hour time start at 0 minutes when you place the sausage directly from the refrigerator to the cooker or smoker. So now, would this be an interesting test to recreate under those parameters? I apologize in advance for so many questions because I am learning. I just do not want to make someone sick or even worse. I guess I am concerned about using curing salt in all my sausage all the time.
@Ringele5574
@Ringele5574 2 жыл бұрын
Great information as usual....and I always take the information you give with a grain of (curing) salt. 😉
@2guysandacooler
@2guysandacooler 2 жыл бұрын
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@mattruz9238
@mattruz9238 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Eric. Very helpful.
@2guysandacooler
@2guysandacooler 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Matt!! Appreciate the comment!
@PaceYourself
@PaceYourself Жыл бұрын
Great video, thank you for the information!
@vancouverbluesea
@vancouverbluesea 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Eric, the video is very helpful - thank you! I am curious - what is your take on sous vide cooking temperatures and times (mainly stakes / chops). The sous vide has vacuum applied (so - potentially can be dangerous) but on the other hand often the meat is not ground .Thank you in advance!
@2guysandacooler
@2guysandacooler 2 жыл бұрын
Water can conduct heat more efficiently than air so when it comes to sous vide it will pasteurize the meat faster than if you were to cook in a smoker or an oven. I like sous vide cooking for lots of things. You can cook at much lower temps and still have a safe product.
@Kris-nk9mz
@Kris-nk9mz Жыл бұрын
Help me out doesn't the USDA say 165 degrees for ground meats? or did miss something? Just asking is all...
@MrRilarios
@MrRilarios 7 ай бұрын
165 kills bacteria instantly... For 140 you have to hold it at that temp or above for 5-10 minutes approx. Killing bacteria is tempxtime. 165 is the safest recommendation because it doesn't need to hold it for a long time.
@kennith.
@kennith. 6 ай бұрын
Is it possible to cooking @ 200F and then drop it to 180F to be able to add more smoke flavor without having the risk?
@IslenoGutierrez
@IslenoGutierrez Жыл бұрын
Great video and very helpful. But I have a question. I’m from south Louisiana and I’m interested in making andouille. Does this rule still apply for andouille being andouille is made with large pieces such as a 3/4 grind plate?
@2guysandacooler
@2guysandacooler Жыл бұрын
yes. This applies to all sausages, especially smoked sausages like andouille
@inavxthe1handheldchartplot716
@inavxthe1handheldchartplot716 Жыл бұрын
I'm new to sausage making and I am still somewhat confused about one aspect (at least) of using curing salt. In most cases, when using curing salt #1, should cooking and/or smoking be postponed for 12 to 24 hours to ensure the greatest sodium nitrite to nitric oxide conversion? Does cooking/smoking stop the sodium nitrite to nitric oxide conversion so that you have more unconverted sodium nitrite than if you let it work uncooked/unsmoked for 12 - 24 hours? Thanks in advance!
@davidslivinski7690
@davidslivinski7690 Жыл бұрын
How long is cooked sausage last in a refrigerator
@rickgillespie2727
@rickgillespie2727 7 ай бұрын
good info !!!
@AbDp6718
@AbDp6718 Жыл бұрын
Great videos,learning alot about curing , if i use curing salts and want to smoke ,to be able to vac pack and cook later , what internal temp should i take it to 150 deg ? have seen some vids smoking at around 150 deg for about 4 hours then ice bath then vac seal thanks in advance
@elirios9703
@elirios9703 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! Impressive, thanks Eric
@2guysandacooler
@2guysandacooler 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@stevethomas4581
@stevethomas4581 2 жыл бұрын
If I season the meat and refrigerate over night should insta cure #1 be added with the seasoning Or wait until after grinding and add when Mixing.
@2guysandacooler
@2guysandacooler 2 жыл бұрын
Either way. I find that the distribution of cure is better once it's ground (imo)
@stevethomas4581
@stevethomas4581 2 жыл бұрын
@@2guysandacooler OK what about mixing the cure with some of the water that's going in the ground meat ?
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