When Smashers Play a REAL Fighting Game

[@7comet7]

Instead of reflecting upon themselves, they did indeed blame the beast

[@ll.3701]

Lol

[@a3_narvaez679]

HEAVEN OR HELL

[@NotNowNorth]

ROUND 1; LET'S ROCK

[@MrPickleEdits]

I love how jo from alpharad gold forgot the block part of low blocking and immediately blamed the game, top tier content.

[@LayzeeistLavender]

My friend struggles with that concept too lmao

[@kmochi-]

he blamed the beast

[@ra1nyran]

@@kmochi- underrated reply

[@AlexDimLight]

Average guilty gear player

[@NintenboySM]

That's how you know he's really a part of the FGC

[@egnu5629]

this is truly the ground-based footsies that guilty gear is known for

[@Watburnt]

God intended guilty gear

[@theman6422]

Daisuke would cry with joy if he saw this video

[@IamNster]

POV: You're watching Jo Sniffy struggle with charge moves for several minutes straight.

[@Clairavoya]

Yeah lol

[@Buttface]

More like watching Jacob fail to read a command list

[@MonsK.]

​@@Buttfaceso many issues could be resolved by looking at the command list for a character

[@TasukaTelleria]

"I think you'll figure it out", meanwhile Jo is absolutely hitting all the buttons and not holding anything, a real necessity for even an accidental charge input~

[@shifty6532]

to be fair alpha told him the wrong input for it lol

[@ExImperialDragon]

18:40 Hearing "Counter" "Counter" "Counter" over and over again is the greatest confirmation we will ever get that *someone* plays Falco in Melee.

[@MosesX-Labs]

23:53 Jake gets in on the Counters too

[@samsonfgc3472]

idk if this ever gets completely solved in the video or not but for the viewers that are confused, may's mr dolphin is a "charge input" special move. Basically, you have to hold back for half a second then press forward and an attack button to get the special move out. She also has vertical mr dolphin which is holding down for 30 frames and then up+attack. Part of the reason the move is so spammable is that it doesn't matter what you're doing while holding back, you could be walking back, crouch blocking, or even be mid mr dolphin while building charge.

[@nathandam6415]

Learning charge motions is hard but it's totally worth it tbh. You feel the actual weight of the special move rather than just pressing a button and making it come out.

[@samsonfgc3472]

@@nathandam6415 As much as I hate the motion input discourse bc I think that a game can be good or bad with or without them, I can't lie and say that they aren't really satisfying once you have them down. Like I think that they are a barrier to entry but also I like them but removing them is also valid.

[@ciaranmccullagh9246]

They solve it

[@Rei_Fubuki]

Totsugeki

[@ekSil0]

I would just like to note that I love the inclusion of both half a second and 30 frames

[@Maxi024]

I love how they refused to look at the command list and just tried to figure out the dolphin move in the middle of the matches. Also jo is goated like pikmin

[@lighterflud]

Aw yeah, just like we did it in ye olden times.

[@cosmicanomaly5370]

Smash doesn't have an attack list, so they have no concept of it existing

[@drakesacrum8445]

​@@cosmicanomaly5370Ultimate has it.

[@TheTitaniumSamurott]

That's the Alpharad Gold;Way™

[@VannTango]

No pausing in online play. The only way to view their moves is to exit the match.

[@Post-Ioooo]

Will they blame the beasts? Vote now on your phones !!!

[@lucasagusti686]

They stand in front of a mirror and see a stranger staring back 🤣🤣🤣

[@22orpheus]

they found beauty in the lives of the beasts tho

[@MopeyToapy]

HEAVEN OR HELL??

[@flame6983]

yes

[@ruu_gaming]

And everyone voted so hard, the Illyrian Palace burned down.

[@baddealdude807]

never seen a man play potemptkin and never grab once. truly inspiring

[@invertebrado]

The worst part is that Jo did the grab input ONCE, but it whiff and he didn't care to try again

[@4skinShin]

As a Potemkin main, I truly hate to see it

[@trypticon8619]

As a Potemkin player, this brought me great pain

[@evilded2]

You gotta watch the 6th grade meta.

[@ThePoodle]

Also Jo immediatly saying "that's bullshit" is so real Every character has bullshit and it is BLAZING

[@nonmagicalwitch]

And I guess Bedman exists, too

[@moxbby4585]

​@@nonmagicalwitchhis bullshit is the the amount of effects he puts on the screen

[@NiceO1]

now i'm just thinking of a burning piece of shit

[@robodude5124]

STILL HIS HEART IS BLAZING

[@blast-proofexplosives7792]

I would watch an actual Alpharad video of Jacob learning this game

[@AStandsForFrench]

get woolievs on to teach joe how to be good at fighting games and to be a hypebeast

[@skylarchambers4352]

​@@AStandsForFrench I don't even think woolie could get jo into fighting games

[@metal104]

@@AStandsForFrench just teach him how to crouch block

[@Watburnt]

@@skylarchambers4352 jo plays melee which is way harder than most fighting games he could learn easily

[@just-some-guy-]

Jacob is actually a genius fighting game player for feeding his opponent inaccurate information on how to do their moves. His bullshit is truly blazing

[@invertebrado]

23:56 calling Jo a tier whore when he is playing Anji is so goddamn funny

[@vivianlessthan3]

I haven't played strive yet but looking at him he seems bad. am I right?

[@drakesacrum8445]

​@@vivianlessthan3yeah, my main is low tier since the start but in most fighting games it really doesn't matter if a character is low tier. This is the case in Strive where everyone has crazy damage and can kill you in seconds.

[@Goomenstein]

@@vivianlessthan3 Anji is like a lower mid tier at this point in time, but my man had it rough until fairly recently. Man was constantly fighting characters for the worst character spot.

[@akgfilming]

​@@vivianlessthan3honestly imo as an anji player he's really good before you get to high floors but by the time you get to celestial yeah nah he kinda sucks. But one of the top players is an anji so anythings possible I guess

[@ISTHATAJOJOSREFERENCE]

​​@@vivianlessthan3There is no character in strive that's truly, 100% "bad." Just less viable. For example, Potemkin is considered more of a gimmick meme character but he has a few top level reps. Everyone's capable of winning, but sone characters just have a harder time.

[@Luv_sicc]

When you make a player room, change the "Rotation Rule" to Rematch so it doesnt boot you after every game :)

[@The_Dirt_Cat]

pulling my hair out

[@estebanacostaolivera3232]

It's weird that it isn't on Rematch from the start

[@ACrossTheKnight]

For people that have not played Guilty Gear: there is an ingame Command List

[@InktheImpassive]

So is every fighting game, except smash since all of them are just attack or special in each directions and not inputs from multiple buttons and some stupid sliding motion. God, I am such an amateur in fighting games that I rely on autocombos.

[@ACrossTheKnight]

Yeah I just mentioned it because relevance and it doesn't end up showing in the video

[@NoSmoke1]

​@@InktheImpassiveeven smash has a command list

[@akesan2374]

@@InktheImpassive There is, it just only lists specials and the character's gimmick

[@mcbill7352]

​@@InktheImpassivesmash has one for specials

[@squeakymeow]

I wonder how often it happens that new players pick up a game and are like "wow how do you deal with X move?" And then in competitive play you barely see it outside of very niche situations. Like Testament's move lol

[@ioncavegrandma9256]

Yeah. It’s minus on hit. You can literally just run in and force progess.

[@squeakymeow]

@@ioncavegrandma9256 also both variations dont work on jump so most aerial characters are almost never threatened by it

[@KirbyS771]

Jo not knowing you need to block and crouch is such goofy silly fun

[@conner539]

who here wants to see jacob become good in guilty gear on his main channel? me personally, i do

[@thunderstar7682]

Honestly same Its such a fun game and it was pretty easy to start having fun in despite how much i’ve played dmash

[@612minigun]

"Kinda twinkish in nature but very jacked" That is Ky Kiske to a T. You nailed it. I love this and want to see you guys do like a proper learning stream with someone who can teach you how to play.

[@CaravanNoobs]

Jacob Alpharad’s right about movement being the hardest part of the transition from Smash to traditional fighters. Tried a couple and they didn’t quite gel with me. Strive acclimated me so well thanks to the dash macro. And now I’m a Millia main shmovin’ playing the floor is lava for 90% of the match.

[@leonardchurch814]

Millie is speed

[@tEbag9]

As a May main who's been playing this game since launch, watching them try and figure out how to do funny dolphin move was hard to watch.

[@Clairavoya]

It was hard for me to watch just from knowing it's a charge move

[@invertebrado]

As a Potemkin main, I just wanted to see 1 grab man. Technically I did see it, but it was a whiff and it honestly hurts way more knowing Jo was capable of doing it but he didn't. He is great on Pikmin tho

[@MJD-lf2mb]

It's painful watching them fk up any input badly tbh

[@EripmavsDYraid]

As a Sol main, it was SO painful not seeing them use any other moves.... y'know.... like VOLCANIC VIPER, which is VERY important to Sol's gameplan in Strive.

[@MJD-lf2mb]

@@EripmavsDYraid I also play a bit of Sol and dear god, they just needed volcanic viper, 5k, 6s, far s and bandit revolver.

[@sakarain]

HOLY SHIT I absolutely love the character designs in this game

[@runix_dragoon]

BUY THE GAME NOW

[@sakarain]

@@runix_dragoonI would if my pc could run it lol I tried it out when they did the cross play test. It couldn’t run well even with potato mods. I’ve been playing Plus R though and I’ve been enjoying it

[@stuckincollege1778]

Let's play GGS, we have: Rock personified Ape with PTSD I can't believe my wife was a mech SOCIETY DESTROY Shonen protagonist The son after the protagonist leaves Sea World Russian Filia Man with the biggest breasts Woman with the 2nd biggest breasts American Ninja Drug Warrior God God, but not really God, but with a guitar Doge Area 51 BIGGEST FUCKING SWORD IN THE WEST biggest sword girl, but not really Time traveling gangster The monster under the bed is frien Most evil looking doctor whos now good Killua The Grim Reaper

[@makogp747]

@@sakarain PLUS R LETS GOOOOO can you run xrd

[@comraderogers3105]

@@sakarain come play +r, we have even more cool as fuck characters minus the bullshit ones also everyone is bullshit, plus it runs on a toaster

[@SadToffee]

Every new fighting game player always screams "i was holding back" or "I was blocking" and it is the funniest thing ever.

[@Shirojyuu]

17:00, No no no, the fact that I got to see your thought processes in figuring out how to do stuff is a DRAW to the video. It's genuinely really interesting seeing what people try when learning a fighting game, and I hate how there are so few videos that give me a raw look at what new players are actually doing. The lack of edits in this case make it way more enjoyable.

[@xeroh9894]

they finally did it... they played a REAL fighting game!!!

[@tyronejohnsoniii539]

​@@kylekiske_attempted is a good one

[@eraykaan]

real is also pushing it

[@ryzo9051]

​ no lmaoo, its side scrolling fighting game like mk, fighterz, mvc, sf. same mechanics too just because hp is lowed and it was dumbed down doesnt mean it isnt a real fighting game lol

[@glitch6436]

​​@@ryzo9051classic good for you? Also im pretty sure all fighting game has a side scroller

[@shapeshifterk]

I'd argue Your Only Move is Hustle is a real fighting game.

[@Dajodio]

i really like how they refused to look at the move list and just brute forced

[@somerandomnoob914]

I just really love the character designs and music in this game. wish i could be good at the game in the series i do play, but i am unfortunately built different in a bad way

[@justp0w3r154]

he just like me frfr

[@MECHA_DI]

which game do you play? is it XRD? cause the best way to learn is by looking at guides and playing against other people from my experience

[@Riiddens]

I didn't thought about how alien the charge inputs might seem to Smashers until now

[@ragnorak6452]

I never realised how much I wanted to watch a sol ditto between Jacob and Jo until today, and it's worth it.

[@kenpokid10]

Jacob picks Testament and immediately starts executing the optimal game plan (he presses overhead Arbiter 5 times in a row)

[@autumn2754]

mankind knew not how to block, but instead of reflecting on themselves, they blamed the game .

[@jetsetdizzy9433]

Humanity knew that they couldn't block low but instead of reflecting on themselves, they blamed the beasts.

[@drfil146]

I think Strive would be a great game for Jacob to play for a main channel video. It’s really easy to learn and get into - The in game tutorials are amazing, most of the inputs and combos are easy, and it’s so flashy and stylized that doing the most basic of FG stuff still feels fun. Since season 3 is coming out soon, there’s probably a lot of new people getting into it (and people from SF6/Project L) so it would be a good algorithm game. Also Anji (the character Jo played at the end) is bi. So there’s another gay character for Jacob to play

[@HawkTeevs]

15:59 What's hilarious about the charge moves on May (funny dolphin moves) is the fact that you can charge the input at literally *any* time in the game including during the countdown to the start of the round

[@invertebrado]

Wait, you can? I thought you could only charge it after the character could move

[@sam-vs4tm]

at 0:56 in the video, you can actually see that jacob performs the coveted sol technique "run flame" where you move forward while activating gun flame. truly a skilled player

[@wristcandy43]

As a guilty gear player, this is high level gameplay.

[@RadioRez]

Jacob spamming 6p as soon as he played testament is so funny. He can immediately sense the broken moves

[@donuttheturtle2.070]

1:50 seeing smash players not know how to block is kinda iconic

[@Tankirb]

To block low attacks you have to hold diagonaly back. Joe was likely only holding down. Edit: Jo*

[@Platitudinous9000]

Jo edit: thanks :)

[@peytongolding7544]

@@Platitudinous9000 hi jo

[@the_exxtra1425]

his Injustice muscle memory lmao. You have to hold down to block low, and it blocks both sides in that game I think. It's a weird ass game.

[@KarpetBurn]

Surely they realize theres an entire tab in the menu detailing every move for each character and how to pull them off... Right?

[@dangangalaxy9759]

The moment they started trying to figure out Totsugeki I was willing to bet real money they would not figure it out on their own.

[@dylansetright3359]

Im honestly surprised Alpha didn't go to I-No considering his history of characters he likes

[@cheesey7427]

it's honestly very fun to watch you guys figure out how to play more traditional fighting games, you guys should try a street fighter game or skullgirls for the next time :)

[@ruu_gaming]

Skullgirls!

[@yourfriendlyneighbourhoodc8475]

As a Testament main it's hilarious seeing both of them say "That's bullshit" when looking at some of the most easily dodgable and/or wiffable moves in the game

[@mamaclam9311]

excited to see them play my favorite game and then watching them complain about a lack of functions the game has was certainly a way to spend my morning

[@redarrow346playz6]

Alternative Title: Two Smash Players Fail To Input Quarter Circle Moves

[@alejandrogomez1698]

You can change the lobby settings to be able to rematch more. Also the game has tons of tutorials and even mario-maker-like combo tutorials made by the players that you can find and try for yourself in game.

[@RadiantBeachShulk]

Name something more iconically Alpha/Jo than picking up a game with a great tutorial that explains all of the inputs and mechanics to you and then ignoring that completely and struggling to figure it out for themselves lmao

[@rder2793]

If Jacob did more GG strive stuff on the future by his own that would be very poggers

[@Czar_Khasm]

Unlocking the queer characters for the sake of it is so incredibly based

[@vivianlessthan3]

BRACELET ❤❤❤

[@queeeeeeenn]

Bucket💕💜💙

[@Platitudinous9000]

Bracket 💙💛💙

[@duane6386]

Brisket 🏳️‍⚧️

[@wheatiebun]

Investment💜💛🤍🖤

[@cryochasm9638]

Tysm for playing my favorite game ever created, this game definitely has potential and I very much look forward to (possible) future gameplay of this on the main channel or just as another side thing.

[@Anticssc]

This is the most painful thing I have experienced in any thing ever

[@jay9344]

You do not know HOW BADLY I just wanna spend ten minutes explaining this game to you guys

[@justp0w3r154]

finally, a REALLY real fighting game edit: i would also love if jacob learned this game it is very cool :>

[@wahwahwahwahwah]

i love the part where jacob taught jo to do totsugeki wrong

[@LuLu_Vena]

Bro…..there’s a whole list of how to do the novelist IN THE GAME

[@AStandsForFrench]

naoki hashimoto going nuts on the songs in the background while these two knuckleheads faceroll their way through interminably slow matches lol

[@4skinShin]

As a Potemkin player seeing Jo play Potemkin and NEVER attempt to use a grab makes my heart burn.

[@EripmavsDYraid]

Allow me to explain: Testament's 214S (The dragon that kept teleporting above May) is classified as an overhead, which means you have to block high. Also, if you're having trouble finding the move's command input, you can always check the character's Dustloop Wiki Page.

[@evilded2]

214S

[@EripmavsDYraid]

@@evilded2 Yeah so I'm fucking stupid lol

[@jjd4555]

Watching alpharad explain the concept of high/low blocking in the least accurate way possible is what I clicked on this video for

[@jjd4555]

I am internally screaming watching jo try to find the input for dolphin when it’s a change input thank you for the content alpharad

[@sukigdwastaken]

I love watching videos like this on games I like where Jo and Jacob both play like my little cousin

[@EvelynnNystrom]

I honestly hope Jacob does pick up Strive. I need some Guilty Gear content from someone who isn't a stale piece of white bread.

[@flame6983]

Agreed

[@ThePoodle]

😮

[@wail2774]

What does that even mean 😅

[@katunu6030]

You should watch BreadEater he mainly makes fighterz content but his strive videos are great

[@darthrighty]

Watch kizzie

[@squiddyte4552]

the thing about josniffy is that he is GOATED at pikmin

[@AnEdgyWeeb]

Thank you Jacob Alpharad, for being a true ally by buying the gay characters!

[@invertebrado]

And capitalism- I mean gay wins once again!

[@Derflabals]

alpha learning how to fireball and then immediately getting DP from spamming it is so funny

[@MEEPdragon]

Funnily enough, this game has a song called Icarus

[@moosegravy87]

Man, the salt from Jo was real this episode

[@bungusmcgee4712]

its kinda funny to see jacob be spot on about how ky is played despite never playing strive

[@michaelyang8033]

I can understand the tilt, bc fighting games don't really support new players, and ive been in that situation before. They take and absurd time to learn, but after learning how they fundamentally work, they're one of my top favorite genre to play because the interactions between attacks and combos are super cool for me. Thankfully newer fighting games are supporting new player while still being fun for players like me, like street fighter 6, tekken 8, and project L. But thanks for atleast trying, also jo is a beast at pikmin. The daigo of pikmin :)

[@denmark1226]

After a lot of time playing smash, I tried to get into Guilty Gear Strive and it was actually pretty easy to learn. I had to learn it on my own, that way I could get my friends into it

[@yourfriendlyneighbourhoodc8475]

See, what's funny about this is that you say that, but Strive features an amazing tutorial that not only easily explains the fundamental mechanics they struggled with but also introduces you to general fighting game concepts I didn't even know about before I started (should be noted that I was in the same position they were in when I started the game)

[@babytricep437]

@@yourfriendlyneighbourhoodc8475xrd does this way better, and isn’t a watered down game with fun combo and Gatling systems

[@Liteb1]

I love how Guilty Gear in general is growing in popularity

[@crumpuscrump]

dont worry, most sol players dont know how blocking works

[@logana479]

OMG THE SOUNDTRACK FOR THIS SLAPS!

[@JustBenUnofficial]

Can’t believe I watched a Guilty Gear video with no Brigit in it… what is the world coming to?

[@chillmadude]

i just wanna say, i tried introducing a smasher to GG with a friend, and whenever i play against someone who is new, i make sure to play a character i dont know how to play. i picked anji against them, and they were unreasonably scared of his projectile.

[@dorktriogamer2865]

I like how they spend so much time trying to figure out totsugeki but they dont bring up the command inputs

[@dorktriogamer2865]

Bro they googled it before bringing up the list

[@brianwallace2038]

I believe you can change the settings to make it so you're not spat out after every match.

[@taiketsu]

this is the funniest guilty gear gameplay ever i cant

[@hunterking4228]

You can't really teach people who have no intention of learning.

[@awesome21342]

I love within 2 seconds of playing testament that Jacob already figured out their gameplan

[@pietips4077]

Not quite but alright. It was like how he "figured out" Ky.

[@DMG2705]

Bro blamed the beasts because he didnt look at the command list! 😂

[@kittenmagician7416]

"Real fighting game" This doesn't look like Goonya Fighters

[@hjko91]

Jacob: stands there literally doing nothing. Jo: burns burst

[@patrickhannon2694]

Oh hey a guilty gear video cool I sure hope nothing bad happens if I use the words Bridget and Her in the same sentence

[@ACrossTheKnight]

She is a cute character

[@patrickhannon2694]

@@ACrossTheKnight vouch

[@Chicleton]

Smashers take almost 20minutes to know that the funny dolphin lady is a charge character, the video

[@zwei9314]

Recently started trying to learn this game, and watching this video has made me feel better about my skill level, thanks Alpharad Gold! :)

[@JAHHHED]

Best way for someone to get into strive is to listen to the soundtrack to see which one your fav is then pick then and just see what funny moves they got by practicing the inputs

[@p0plazyprat_t134]

How did it not cross y’all’s minds once that there might be a move list💀😭

[@N.AYBA2414]

It felt like i was watching my little siblings play

[@emilymakar]

I was filled with fear watching Jacob pick my main, terrified about how painful it would be to watch. Luckily, Jo was there with May to make me realize I got off easy...

[@kaijuoni8592]

lol as someone who is only a floor 7. Hearing Arbiter sign an “unblockable move” is crazy but I get they jumped in completely blind.

[@Nocron]

100% would watch a stream or video of Jacob learning Strive

[@toaster6928]

I completely agree with Jo at the 23:00 mark. I've had that happen to me before and it changed my life. 😢

[@nilsrahmqvist8002]

I thought I was going to cry when jo simply did not understand that low blocking is down back

[@lumariaYT]

as a guilty gear player I can say for certain this is how the game is meant to be played

[@sneakypig4238]

If you want to learn more about how the game works, the missions in the offline menu teach you about the fundamentals of fighting games in general as well as this game’s specific mechanics

[@n00bleaker19]

loved the confusion of them figuring charge attack 😂

[@Toxic-Pyro]

OH MY GOD I LOVE THIS GAME THANK YOU

[@sheepwooly10]

If jo wants to move he should play giovanna

[@Warm_n_Crowzy]

giodash would fuel his melee brain

[@evilded2]

Or chipp

[@devbyglamour4265]

THIS CAME AT THE PEAK OF MY STRIVE HYPERFIXATION PLEASE I NEED MORE

[@freezeburn9875]

Been wanting to see this one since the beginning

[@ThatWitchMarcy]

to see a smash player admit smash isn't a real fighting game. Cannot say I ever expected that