When someone trespasses against you: you have to forgive: it's a false doctrine of forgiveness

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Tyler JTI

Tyler JTI

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@PL-tj5sd
@PL-tj5sd 7 ай бұрын
Forgiveness does not mean reconciliation, I do not have to be friends with you, a lot of the time, they don't care about your forgiveness, they just want to keep getting access to you to carry on their relational perversion! "OK, I forgive you, please do not contact me again..."
@Tom-cp6yj
@Tom-cp6yj 7 ай бұрын
That should only be relevant for an "unforgivable" situation.. Many times, people just make simple mistakes and admit it, and they don't deserve to be permanently cut off due to an inflated ego on the so-called "victims" end!! That happened to me, and that ain't right.
@PL-tj5sd
@PL-tj5sd 7 ай бұрын
@@Tom-cp6yj I am really thinking of types of assault, and those who wish to deliberately violate boundaries as a habit, and stalkers, or slandered you because you will not date or marry them, or such, or want to stay "friends" with you so that they can pretend that they are dating you. Narcissistic abuse, parents who abused you and insist on continuing forms of abuse towards you. There are sometimes reasons to let go of someone in love, so that they do not hinder your own self value.
@PL-tj5sd
@PL-tj5sd 7 ай бұрын
@@Tom-cp6yj also, stating "so-called "victims"", seems to lean towards demeaning, minimizing, and invalidating the position of the offended party, when they may have truly been a victim of ethics and principles that were violated by an offending party, who refuses to acknowledge the extensive impact of what they have done to the victim, repeat offenders sometimes only understand the values of a person once they have permanently lost that person...
@Anonymissus
@Anonymissus 3 ай бұрын
Frl
@HighPriestessKathie
@HighPriestessKathie 7 ай бұрын
I have been watching your channel for years! You are spot on. People pick and choose what they want to believe and then judge you when you debate them with their own Bible. ❤
@lorraine4755
@lorraine4755 7 ай бұрын
You don't forgive narcissist and psychopaths that want to take you out, made me abandon my home, well said as always Tyler. Gaslighting and manipulation is their game.
@PurpleGoddess24
@PurpleGoddess24 7 ай бұрын
Tyler always keepin it real.
@TylerJTI
@TylerJTI 7 ай бұрын
Thank you
@deedeemoore6096
@deedeemoore6096 7 ай бұрын
Yes he definitely does and I love every bit of it !! He keeps it all the way 1,000 % !!
@Hiflyg123
@Hiflyg123 7 ай бұрын
The other verse people say should enable a forgiveness is the Turn The Other Cheek. Why if someone violates your positive energy must you turn the other cheek.
@TylerJTI
@TylerJTI 7 ай бұрын
Yes, that's another lie in the doctrine of forgiveness that they have also been getting away with. How you know that this doctrine of forgiveness is the greatest scam is that scripture turn the other cheek presented in matthew 5:39, the way it's been told some Christians know something does not add up nor agree with it, but still hold on to thier fradualent doctrine of forgivness in thier religion. By your request or any subscriber, do you want me to do a video on this???? If so, I shall be glad to do it to expose this part in the doctrine of forgiveness in the relgion
@Hiflyg123
@Hiflyg123 7 ай бұрын
@@TylerJTI I think its a good topic. My understanding is the slap on the cheek was an insult back in the day. However it is clearly a form of assault and you should never turn the other cheek and let them get away with it.
@ceecee4705
@ceecee4705 6 ай бұрын
Yes, please do a video on turning the other cheek, because these so called Christians and hell raising family members will holler this out so quick. Thanks for diving deep into this doctrine that have held people down for so long and that allows the manipulative folks to carry out their foolishness. You are truly waking us up.
@TylerJTI
@TylerJTI 2 ай бұрын
Hey ceecee 4705 I did a video on turn the other cheek. I don't know if you checked it out or not.
@sarah.j.777
@sarah.j.777 7 ай бұрын
Exactly, I don't forgive the unforgivable or those who don't repent. The past is gone, I leave it behind and let karma go after them.
@TylerJTI
@TylerJTI 7 ай бұрын
I am the same way, if the person who did me wrong don't repent, there is no forgiveness.
@Ross-v9t
@Ross-v9t 6 ай бұрын
​​​@@TylerJTIwhat they tell you is even if someone do you extremely dirty and betray you without no remorse regret or apology you still forgive them because your doing yourself a favor from being miserable and having high blood pressure and the trespasser is moving on with their life and doesn't care if your mad or not. Which is completely BS 15:06 15:06
@giovannij1368
@giovannij1368 4 ай бұрын
Always speaking truth! Even when stop talking to. Family member, due to a fall out. The moment you go silent, you hear from a 3rd party . Asking you "why haven't you contacted "so and so, and from my experience its usually the younger ones that get the slack for not begging to stay in contact with other family members. The moment you go silent, you get all these questions. But it will never be from the actual person who feels bad for the way things ended. Don't feel obligated. Ppl know how to get a hold of you
@MrIncredible1495
@MrIncredible1495 7 ай бұрын
I just love your channel man
@ItzWinterDoll
@ItzWinterDoll 6 ай бұрын
Thank you uncle Tyler I appreciate you and we love you❤❤❤❤❤❤🥹
@TylerJTI
@TylerJTI 6 ай бұрын
Thank you so much
@giovannij1368
@giovannij1368 4 ай бұрын
I honestly feel really bad for the good hearted ppl who even when they know that they were done wrong in a situation, they still feel bad for distancing themselves from the other person.
@jamesbreeden9016
@jamesbreeden9016 7 ай бұрын
Tyler, you always bring truth and higher thought to the table. You are a chosen of the Most High. I wish you peace and joy, my friend.
@TylerJTI
@TylerJTI 7 ай бұрын
Thank you
@Quintessentialknowledge
@Quintessentialknowledge 7 ай бұрын
Preach❤❤❤ when the one dude hugged his brother's unaliver in court.... I knew the world was raggedy.. I ain't forgiving shit😂😂😂
@slynn360
@slynn360 5 ай бұрын
Straight facts! It would never be me! I ain't forgiving shit
@CalledForDuty
@CalledForDuty 5 ай бұрын
Forgive ? Sure. Forget? Never
@justinsatire
@justinsatire 5 ай бұрын
We live in the little season. You are spot on and don’t apologize to anyone who don’t comprehend what you are saying. They don’t get it and they never will. It’s not our mission to make dumb people change their ways. Fight the False Doctrine! It’s the only way.
@TylerJTI
@TylerJTI 5 ай бұрын
Hey how are you. I have more videos in my achives exposing the doctrine of forgiveness. There are more videos coming out against this false doctrine of forgiveness, it's has had a long 🏃‍♂️ 🏃‍♂️ 🏃‍♂️ 🏃‍♂️: it's over when a lot of people wake up to this false doctrine.
@Andrew-cd6rq
@Andrew-cd6rq 6 ай бұрын
I feel this video is to be aimed more at narcissistic folks. I still forgive but I will never allow them access to my life ever again. Meaning... I will not allow them to continue doing the evil things they were doing to me. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame me. But if you fool me 3 times then it's shame on both of us. God forbid that I will ever let that happen
@ameerahrashada4515
@ameerahrashada4515 7 ай бұрын
There are a lot of false doctrine this is a big one Open your eyes people see things for yourselves Thank you for this video
@thepamperedgoddess3279
@thepamperedgoddess3279 6 ай бұрын
Tyler can you make a video about when these type of people become elderly and now it’s expected that you forgive them/be nice to them just because of their age/fragility/declining health. These very same ones who in their strength and vigor showed no mercy to anyone.
@joelbumba2006
@joelbumba2006 6 ай бұрын
Very well said ...We are bringing true Reformation in the body of Christ.
@TylerJTI
@TylerJTI 6 ай бұрын
Thank you so much
@LittleKitty22
@LittleKitty22 7 ай бұрын
Recently a popular orthodox Christian bishop (Mar Mari Emmanuel) got stabbed by the enemies of the West. As soon as the man was able to speak after he has sufficiently recovered, he said he "forgives" his attacker (who clearly attempted to murder him - it was all caught on camera!). A bunch of Christians said "we have to pray for the attacker and love him". I said - publicly, ie on YT - that this is why I am not a Christian and that this is also why the West is in the mess it's in. The Christians went mad! They always do when one speaks the truth... As for this false doctrine of forgiveness - the Bible explicitly forbids us to do so. Psalm 1 : 1 (KJV) : Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful. It simply means: stay away from evil people, do not speak to them, do not be friends with them.
@TylerJTI
@TylerJTI 7 ай бұрын
Preach preach. You're on it!!!!! I didn't hear about that. Where can i find that video so that i can mention it in a future video, I am doing another exposing this fraudulent doctrine of forgiveness in the religion of Christianity.
@LittleKitty22
@LittleKitty22 7 ай бұрын
@@TylerJTI kzbin.info/www/bejne/eoW1iKKJrrh3e5o Hope this link goes through, but YT links usually do.
@LittleKitty22
@LittleKitty22 7 ай бұрын
@@TylerJTI I think my reply with the link went through... Just think, the man got BRUTALLY STABBED, and all he can think about is "must forgive my attacker"! The attacker was of course from a certain ideology and targeted the bishop because he is Christian, and because he spoke up about this certain ideology and its demonic ways. One does NOT "forgive" that! I do not forgive my little one's murderer! I do not forgive the people who attempted to get me into prison with their lies! I do not forgive the people who violated me throughout my life! I am waiting for the chance to re-establish Ma'at - ie order, balance and justice!
@KcLove-ut8zn
@KcLove-ut8zn 7 ай бұрын
I agree with you
@jameswashnis7990
@jameswashnis7990 7 ай бұрын
to forgive in the old hebrew simply meant to let go it is far more for you than for the abuser because in this way you wont carry around the bitterness and anger to carry out revenge and in this way allow God to avenge you as He tells you in romans 12 verse 19 ..it does NOT mean you condone the inappropriate behavior this demon has done to you it also does NOT condone ever being in contact with this toxic monster ever again....if you are dealing with a narcissist they will NEVER change and are incapable of any empathy whatsoever for their targeted victim...GO NO CONTACT STAY NO CONTACT AND TRUST GOD HE WILL TAKE CARE OF BUSINESS BETTER THAN YOU OR I OR ANYONE COULD
@TylerJTI
@TylerJTI 7 ай бұрын
Let me go ahead and school, and also correct you on three things spoken what you spoke everything you spoke is what has been told to you. Number one you're immediately wrong what you said the word forgive means in the old Hebrew and about avenge. This is what you said that in the old Hebrew forgive means to let it far more than for the abuser this way it wont carry around bitterness and to carry out revenge in this way allow God to avenge you. Once again, I am going to school and correct you. When look in the bible in the old testament the word forgive is mentioned 29 times in the Old Testament. From the word in the old testament the word forgive have three old Hebrew words translated in English from the strong concordance, which are calach, nacah, and last but least is kaphar. A bonus in the greek is aphemi. When you go look behind those three words in hebrew , they are not what you have been said. Forgiveness has nothing to do with you letting go of bitterness or anger. Forgiveness is always for the other person. Now you speak about romans 12:19, which has been taken way out of context and you skip the other half on purpose and ingore it why because it destroys the your doctrine of forgiveness, which isn't biblical forgiveness. This is what romans 12:19 says Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord. Yes, it said vengeance is mine, I will repay, saith the Lord. but once again you ingored the other half on purpose. What was the apostle Paul speaking of? It says avenge not yourselves, which is plural: it does not say avenge not other people: there is a huge difference. It's pertaining to yourselves( plural) not another person or people. Now here the kicker it says rather give place unto wrath!!!!!! IF they weren't to carry revenge out on another person or people : why did Paul say give place unto wrath???? When you look at the semicolon, when it says for it is written, vengeance is mine saith the Lord, which this was scripute scriputure of what taken from deutromony 32:35: it's referring back to what Paul says earlier. If we were to go by your perceptive allow God to avenge for you. This contradicts the scripture of what you mentioned. I would like to continue on the part about avenge and revenge, but I don't want to go way above your head.
@slynn360
@slynn360 5 ай бұрын
I have never believed in forgiveness. It's pure bullshit! That and turn the other cheek. Since I stopped forgiving people my life improved and i was happier. Now i believe in don't start none it won't be none. I believe in vengeance and retribution. I believe in balance.
@TylerJTI
@TylerJTI 5 ай бұрын
Preach it!!!!! I will go over turn the other cheek in a video because a subscriber asked the question about and I have been extremely quiet about it
@AwakenedOnes
@AwakenedOnes 7 ай бұрын
Excellent video Tyler thank you so much for sharing true knowledge
@TylerJTI
@TylerJTI 7 ай бұрын
My pleasure!
@Anonymissus
@Anonymissus 3 ай бұрын
as for the bio, repent of your sins is not a false gospel but some churches (and some people) don't seem to understand that forgiveness doesn't mean reconciliation they aren't the same thing, for example you can forgive someone without going back to being in a relationship with that person (wheter that be a romantic relationship, family relationship or even a friendship)
@djkingmagneto1792
@djkingmagneto1792 7 ай бұрын
Whoop The Pure Truth Out On Them Brother... Cause That Truth Keeps Us Real Woke One's Free. Many Will Get Caught In Their Feeling's Very But Hurtlingly... They Need To Go To Their Favorite Proctologist , That Way He Can Prescribe An Ointment For The Hole That Hurts The Most. Right On Brother ! , Right On. ⚖️⚖️⚖️⚖️⚖️
@Mike_Cosentino
@Mike_Cosentino 7 ай бұрын
If you went around forgiving AND forgetting every single thing that every person ever did wrong to do, how in the world would any y’all gain the wisdom to be sharper & wiser for when the next person, or narcissist, attempts to play those same games in the future?? If you forgive AND forget (and you are not obliged to forgive anybody on this earth bc I believe ultimately that’s God’s job), but completely forget about it, you’ll never retain the information in order to NOT repeat those same mistakes again.
@TylerJTI
@TylerJTI 5 ай бұрын
Yes that's right. People who follow this fraudulent doctrine of forgiveness love to go by what had been told to them rather than to use critical thinking. Biblical forgiveness is when the person repents then you forgive, and also someone standing in the stead for the transgressor to be possibly forgiven by God, but it was not guaranteed.
@moneymoney6817
@moneymoney6817 7 ай бұрын
U...ARE...CORRECT 💯 I...DON'T....WASTE... ANY TIME....ON....PEOPLE !!!!!!
@abender06
@abender06 6 ай бұрын
There are other scriptures like turn the other cheek etc. But the way i reconcile it is we forgive the people but go to war against the demons that are driving them to destroy you. You forgive because holding grudges literally makes you sick. But you go absolutely mercilessly against demonic forces througb spiritual warfare. God deals with everything else including justice.
@starquality5774
@starquality5774 6 ай бұрын
I was just talking about this. It's a difference between and offense and a trespass. Jesus spoke on both in 2 different ways. Facts.
@lerronwright2007
@lerronwright2007 6 ай бұрын
There are numerous instances in the Old Testament (which is also part of Christian word) that make it clear God is *pleased* with those who forgive their enemies, a prominent case being David forgiving Saul. And when forgiveness happened, the forgiving person was blessed by God. So yes, brotha, forgiveness may not be all across the board in every case, but it's clear that if you get to a place where you're feeling that genuinely without outside pressure, God favors that. I suppose it depends on your personal relationship with the Most High.
@TylerJTI
@TylerJTI 6 ай бұрын
Yes I agree with you You got this from I Samuel 24th chapter. Yes, this is a prominment case of david did forgive Saul, it was because Saul repented to David, but the judgement of God still stood on Saul after he disobeyed the command from the most high to wipe out the Ameliks. There is no forgiveness without repentance is what I stand on! Once again, this is a prominent case of when there is repentance( making amends), there is forgiveness. This is biblical forgiveness. I am all for it. It is just like messiah had commanded and instructed in Luke 17:3-4. What i am extemely against the huge lie that when someone trepasses aganst you, forgive or you have to forgive: Forgive no matter what someone sins or trespasses against you even without repentance, which is from the lying doctrine of forgiveness in the religion of Christianity. There are no cases nowhere in the bible does not show anywhere when someone trepasses against you: forgive or you have to forgive, which is from the fraudulent doctrine of forgiveness in the relgion of Christianity. This is what I am asking where is this commandment or law stated in the bible. No body yet can't seem to prove it. Yes I agree, it's a prominent case when there is repentance, there is forgiveness. - -
@witnessofchrist2524
@witnessofchrist2524 7 ай бұрын
Matthew 6:14-15 For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you: but if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses. It's a choice Tyler.
@TylerJTI
@TylerJTI 7 ай бұрын
T-skull, I am not entertaining that scripture because I already spoke about it so why respond to it: it's clear you didn't listen to the whole video and I clearly talked about that scriputure Since you like to hide your face, I am not hiding mine. You can hide your face like a coward, you don't like nobody to know what you like. I am here so show me the scripture in the Bible that claims that when someone trespasses against you: forgive or you have to forgive. Where is it? Matthew 6:14-15 doesn't speak about it: where is it? You said I can't face truth. You can't show your face nor respond with the prove your claim. You are a coward.
@TylerJTI
@TylerJTI 7 ай бұрын
Show me the scripture to back up your claims when someone trespasses against you: you forgive or you have to forgive. You have not shown the scripture yet. Youre a coward to show your face, nor the scriputure. I won't go back to your brainwashed lying and a### relgion of Christianity and your fraudulent doctrine of forgiveness that is not biblical forgiveness. You didn't listen to the video, if you would have seen talked about and address matthew 6:14-15, and you would have had a scripture to back your so called claim.
@TylerJTI
@TylerJTI 7 ай бұрын
I asked you to show me one scripture when someone trepasses against you: forgive or you have to forgive it. None of those scriptures that you gave have nothing to do with someone being trepassed against, all of those scriptures does not say that. Once again, where is this law or commandment in the bible!!!! Ephesians 4:32 this is Paul asking the saints at church of ephesus to forgive one another , this was not no commandment or no law when someone trepasses against you: forgive or you have to forgive. There is a difference to asking a group of people forgiving one another and to be commanded by law forgiving another. Asking ( it can be rejected or accepted by saying no) Commanded by law is when you have to do it no matter what, If you violate that command by law, there are consequences This was no command by law forgiving one another by Paul, it was Paul asking the saints of ephesus forgiving one another Next, I don't know why you brought a very weak scripture to the table Matthew 5:38-40 This does not mention anything about Jesus talking when someone trepasses you, forgive or you have to forgive: this mentions about turn the other cheek is not even talking about that, if you go look in the further in the 40th verse: it still does not mention any about the person who wad trepassed against. Romans 12:19. Paul speaks about avenging yourselves, and rather give place to wrath: vengeance is mine I will repay saith the Lord. This does not mention or say anything about when someone trepasses against you: forgive or you have to forgive. I am not going further, I am nice to you on that one because you're not ready for the truth. Next this is extremely weak verse showing that you don't know the topic of forgiveness. Luke 6:39 Jesus is asking a question can the blind lead the blind? Shall they not both fall into a ditch. Once again, I can say this scripture is mainly you and all of the other brainwashed and blinded Christians are being lied and deceived by thier lying and fraudulent doctrine of forgiveness in the relgion of Christianity, which is not biblical forgiveness. This does not mention anything about the person who was trepassed against: just to forgive or have to forgive. You know this tells me that you don't know about biblical forgiveness and you're going by what you have been told by the fradulent doctrine of forgiveness in the relgion of Christianity, which is not biblical forgiveness. Where is this scripture that is commanded by law that when someone trespasses against you: forgive or you have to forgive? You aren't listening at all!!!!!!!!!!!!
@witnessofchrist2524
@witnessofchrist2524 7 ай бұрын
@@TylerJTI What is your problem? I've already said that the choice is yours. You don't have to forgive anyone, but the choice is yours. However, as I posted in the earlier post. If you are a believer in Jesus Christ and his ways-forgiveness is required. Now, forgiveness does not require reconciliation. That is also a choice. You are NOT THE ONLY ONE who has had people betray them. Pray for God to help you forgive the person or people that have angered you. I do it myself. ✌🏾
@Aussie50InspiredDavidZ
@Aussie50InspiredDavidZ 6 ай бұрын
I believe in forgiveness. It is one of the TOUGHEST things to do. However, they HAVE to mean it and SHOW you through their actions that they have indeed changed. You can't just use scriptures, like Tyler said, Matthew 6th chapter 14-15 , as a lame ass excuse to always forgive.
@johnq4520
@johnq4520 6 ай бұрын
Yo Mr Tyler hasn't been watching you in a while. Hope things have been good for you.
@AM-qn1zt
@AM-qn1zt 7 ай бұрын
There is not one legit Bible scholar can tell you who wrote Matthew. They don't know, it's called Q.
@VitaminB12-xz6kz
@VitaminB12-xz6kz 7 ай бұрын
Great Video ,can you please make about gaslight and saying No Thank you
@TylerJTI
@TylerJTI 7 ай бұрын
Yes I can
@rocksofoffence.righteousam2422
@rocksofoffence.righteousam2422 2 ай бұрын
💯✅
@experiencemystique4982
@experiencemystique4982 7 ай бұрын
Some very interesting "counsel" Matthew 5:43/44/45 seemingly extremely difficult to understand why Hé asked that. In ours lives, is so easy to feel targeted, abuse, kick off,out,down...but has à very wise logic. Hatred, is more painful and accountable for the one who feel it than the one receive it. And very easy way to lose yourself.
@TylerJTI
@TylerJTI 7 ай бұрын
Are you talking about turn the other cheek?🤔 If so, you want a video on that!
@sonoftheday8249
@sonoftheday8249 6 ай бұрын
It's so sad that hell will be filled with people that would not forgive. Forgive people and your Father in heaven will forgive you. That's what Jesus told us to do.
@TylerJTI
@TylerJTI 6 ай бұрын
What you just said is plain out gaslighting and manipulation at the finest it's wrong all because of what you have been told by the fradulent doctrine of forgivenss in the relgion of Christianity. To go by you said and it's very disgraceful, to go by that out of line way of thinking all because of what has been told to you: you put all these people in the so called burning hell God ( the most high is there) Jesus ( is there) Abraham the father of the faith is there Paul the apostle is there Joesph is there Noah is there Esau is there The prophet Elisha is there The prophet Jeremiah is there The prophet Issiah is there You put all of them there in your fake burning lake of fire all based on what you have been told by your fradulent doctrine of forgiveness when someone trepasses against you: forgive or you have to forgive. Biblical forgiveness is all about when a person repent ( make amends) to the individual that did wrong, which thats what I stand on. Not that fradualent doctrine of forgivensss in the religion of Christianity, which is bs!!!! I stand by biblical forgiveness, not the fraduelent doctrine of forgiveness in the religion of Christianity. That scripture you tried to quote is in Luke 6:37 is not a commandment, nor a law, but it's a promise what happens if you forgive that it comes right back to you. There is difference between a commandment ( law) and a promise. The problem is that brainwashed Christians and people like you can't understand the difference because of what you have been decived and told in your doctrine of forgiveness in the relgion of Christianity.
@sonoftheday8249
@sonoftheday8249 6 ай бұрын
@@TylerJTI um you have to much time on your hands. Just keep the opinion you have and you'll see where it leads you. I won't answer again.
@hardeepmann3464
@hardeepmann3464 6 ай бұрын
🙏🙏🙏🙏
@ninath13
@ninath13 5 ай бұрын
You got to tell your story...Who did it Tyler..we have to forgive 🙏 God forgives us Just don't let it happen again.
@Ross-v9t
@Ross-v9t 3 ай бұрын
No we don't no forgiveness for the unrepentant. Luke 17 3. People who caused you the most pain after everything you did for them and stab you in the back. No forgiveness for the unrepentant😊
@Anonymissus
@Anonymissus 3 ай бұрын
​​@@Ross-v9tforgiveness is necessary for the unrepentant to repent, I think you're confusing the unrepentant with Apostates (aka Psychopaths) cus those people have out sinned God's grace and are unable to be forgiven, if we don't forgive God won't forgive us (forgiveness doesn't equal reconciliation though, you can forgive and love someone from a distance, I'm talking from feet to miles away)
@TylerJTI
@TylerJTI 2 ай бұрын
​@@Anonymissus stop with the foolishness. The statement of what you just mentioned from Matthew 6:14 is not a proof text when someone trepasses against you: you forgive. Once again in Matthew 6:14 If you don't forgive men of thier trepasses: the father will forgive you If you don't forgive men of thier trepasses, the father won't forgive you of your trepasses. I going to ask you: WHERE DOES IT SAY IN THAT SCRIPTURE ABOUT TRESPASSING AGAINST YOU??????? It does not say that!!! It mentions trepasses= status of the trepassor. That's a huge difference. It's clear you didn't listen to the whole video. That guy is right that mentioned no repentance no forgiveness, which the command in luke 17:3. He was not confusing it with apostates, and was once agian simply stating a command by the messiah in Luke 17:3 about biblical forgiveness. It goes extemely against fraud entirely doctrine of forgiveness. You sit here contradict yourself they were out sinned by God's grace and unable to forgiven, then turn around using Matthew 6:14 if we don't forgive, God won't forgive us: this is once again total contradiction.
@Anonymissus
@Anonymissus 2 ай бұрын
@@TylerJTIit's not foolishness tho, the Bible says if we don't forgive then God won't forgive us, forgiveness is not the same thing as reconciliation, those are two different things, people can forgive each other without reconciliation, reconciliation in some situations like with Narcissists is dangerous, also why are you rewriting what the Bible says?, I'm not sure what version you're using but Matthew 6:14 doesn't say "if you don't forgive men of their trespasses: the father will forgive you", it says this "For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you: but if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses"-Matthew 6:14, K.J.V, and here's what the N.K.J.V says "For if you forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. But if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses", you must think u mean forgiveness and reconciliation is the same thing no i don't mean that at all, the Bible doesn't even say we have to be reconciled to those who have wronged us just to forgive them and I'm not saying forgiveness is an easy thing either especially when some stuff comes close to falling into the category of being unforgivable also there will be consequences to those who change God's words, anyone who does so is putting themselves in grave danger "For i testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, if any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book."-Revelation 22:18-19, K.J.V, and here's what the N.K.J.V says "For i testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book; and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book."-Revelation 22:18-19 N.K.J.V
@Anonymissus
@Anonymissus 2 ай бұрын
@@TylerJTI also I'm not talking about the trespassers forgiving us for anything, I'm talking about us forgiving them, those of us who have been trespassed
@CastleHassall
@CastleHassall 3 ай бұрын
i said this on your other video but it's about the same subject of forgiveness so i feel it is important to say this: Jesus is said to have said "if a man sins against you REBUKE him.. and IF HE REPENTS (is TRULY SORRY DEEP IN THEIR HEARTS) .. (THEN WE ARE TO) forgive them so even in the Bible it said we do NOT HAVE to forgive.. we are to forgive ONLY IF THE OTHER PERSON FEELS TRULY SORRY for what they did and we ARE TO REBUKE THEM. Jesus told us to ANGRILY TELL THEM OFF for what they did.. not just to be nice i hope that helps
@TylerJTI
@TylerJTI 3 ай бұрын
Thank you so much. That's biblical forgiveness. If you are interested I did a video on turn the other cheek.
@officialbaddie9554
@officialbaddie9554 7 ай бұрын
Im so glad you are speaking out on this bull shit excuse me 😅😅😅😅but Truth be MF Told thank you forgiveness is bull keep forgiving so they can laugh at you amd say imma keep fing over so and so and he or she is just.gonna keep forgiving me 😮😮😮😮😅😅😅😅 bullish bye falisha
@MrBillybathgate5
@MrBillybathgate5 7 ай бұрын
Hi Tyler
@TylerJTI
@TylerJTI 7 ай бұрын
Hey how are you doing?
@ShanniSlayTV
@ShanniSlayTV 7 ай бұрын
You need to forgive them so they are not holding you bound but stay away from them that’s the correct way …. No need to apologize in person just feel in your heart that you would want to be forgiven but the more you let people control your emotions the the more power they have over you
@Ross-v9t
@Ross-v9t 6 ай бұрын
Please stop
@ShanniSlayTV
@ShanniSlayTV 6 ай бұрын
@@Ross-v9t lol God ain’t gone forgive nobody who can’t forgive so do you
@TylerJTI
@TylerJTI 5 ай бұрын
ShannislayTV stop with the foolishness.when there's no repentance there's no forgiveness. Jesus speaks that in Luke 17:3 about if or untol the brethren repents forgive and a lot of christans like you are so against this because destroys the fradualent doctrine of forgiveness. Biblical forgiveness is when someone repents then forgive and also someone standing in the stead for the transgressor to be possibly forgiven by , but it wasn't guaranteed forgiveness. There is no scripture nowhere in the bible when someone trespasses against us, we have to forgive. Show us the scripture in the Bible where if someone trespasses that we have to forgive or forgive, and mark 11:24-26 matthew 6:14-16, ephesians 4:31-32, colossians 3: 13 , and matthew 18:21-22 aren't proof texts. You're too busy going by what you has been told to you rather than doing critical thinking for yourself.
@Ross-v9t
@Ross-v9t 3 ай бұрын
​@@ShanniSlayTVdo I really give a fuck if god doesn't forgive me😂 like really?
@Ross-v9t
@Ross-v9t 3 ай бұрын
​@@ShanniSlayTVdo I really give a flop if god forgive me or not😂
@Malacha-q6n
@Malacha-q6n 7 ай бұрын
The Bible isn't even fully true and its in metaphor but people take it literally... Love your videos Tyler 💯
@BablessBah-Ameen
@BablessBah-Ameen 6 ай бұрын
Someone have been forgiving people to the extent that he changed everything about himself inother to stay away unnecessary manipulation basic on hate or plotical agendas, i can't count how meny telephone or sim cart they destroyed just because of jealousy.....
@MCompeticione
@MCompeticione 5 ай бұрын
I pray for vengeance lol
@NoreLyne
@NoreLyne 7 ай бұрын
😂😂❤
@AngelaMarie-777
@AngelaMarie-777 7 ай бұрын
You seem pretty angry at somebody, might want to check the beam in your own eye.
@RedeemedRestored
@RedeemedRestored 6 ай бұрын
What is the Fathers will in the message of forgiveness? Is it in alignment with the commandment to Love Thy Neighbor? To be at peace with all men? It is certainly not to carry unforgiveness in the form of fake forgiveness or to exact revenge spiritually. That is not of God. Every situation is different and should be treated individually. But as some have seen, the pretense of forgiving and punishing people with your absence or similar does not trick or fool God into believing that you forgave. It’s still seen as Unforgiveness.
@TylerJTI
@TylerJTI 6 ай бұрын
God's will is for people when someone does another person wrong is to take accountability and repent, if that person repents then forgive: it's not the false doctrine of when someone trespasses against you: you just forgive or you have to forgive it. You sit here and said but as some have seen the pretense of forgiving and punishing people with your absence : or similar does not trick or fool God that you forgave: it's still seen as unforgiveness: how is this seen as unforgiveness is not God in the bible?. If you forgave a person that abused you physically and they still continue to do the same thing, are you going to be around there present? If you say be absent, then your point hypocritical and contradicting. You do have a right to take out revenge(avenge) depending on the sin, but the problem with a lot brainwashed Christians you like to go run to romans 12:19 and skip on purpose the first half of that scriputure to manipulate, gaslight people to continue the lie in the doctrine of forgiveness, which is not biblical forgiveness.
@Yesitsmandisa
@Yesitsmandisa 7 ай бұрын
Get out my life!!! 🤣
@TylerJTI
@TylerJTI 7 ай бұрын
Oh my lol 😆
@Yesitsmandisa
@Yesitsmandisa 7 ай бұрын
@@TylerJTI you’re right on time ALWAYS! Appreciate you!
@DawnMaxwell-y4z
@DawnMaxwell-y4z 6 ай бұрын
You’re a very good speaker @Tyler JTI . Could or will you come with some other content ? This is beating a dead horse.
@nicholasdesouza6491
@nicholasdesouza6491 7 ай бұрын
Friend, you are perverting the truth of the Scriptures. Jesus’s own example proves you wrong. He was despised, hated, and abandoned by His own disciples and yet even when He had the power to call legions of angels to rescue Him, He didn’t use exercise His authority. He endured the hate to the point of death on a cross, even saying “Father, forgive them for they know what they do” to people who were literally torturing Him. Who do we think we are to say that forgiving someone who has trespassed against us is a false doctrine? When Jesus said “turn the other cheek” or “don’t resist evil” or “if you don’t forgive others their trespasses, neither will my Father in heaven forgive you”, He meant what He said. He lived the example here on earth for us to follow. If we want to be His disciples, we follow His example and His commandments. Anyone who says they’re Christian but doesn’t do what He said is actually not His disciple. Only with their lips do they confess so. Stop perverting the truth of Jesus Christ and repent my friend, for your own sake. We all will be judged according to the words of Jesus in the end. He’s coming back for a people that are blameless and without spot. Let us fear God and may He have mercy on us all.
@TylerJTI
@TylerJTI 7 ай бұрын
Show me where I am perverting the truth of the scriptures??????? Bring your scriptures. The problem with people like you is that you like to go by what you have been told and can't accept your doctrine of forgiveness is false!!!!!!!! It's not biblical forgiveness!!!!!!The only thing I have read is nothing but an opinion and not any facts to back up: you didn't provide no scriptures to back up your claims where i am pervering it!!!!!! You talking about turn the other cheek: you extremely blind in what going on what the messiah said. Show me where is the scripture where it states in and where in the bible when someone trespasses against you: forgive, or you have to forgive it. Matthew 6:14-15 does not speak nor talk about the status of the person who wad trepassed against: that's an false inserted by the fraudulent doctrine you refuse to let go. If you can't show me one scripture that says when someone trepassed against you: forgive or you have to forgive it: Quit wasting my time and yours.!!!!!!! I don't have time your opinions, because this all that you stated. you're mad and upset all because I exposed your false doctrine of forgiveness with facts and with scriptures. I want facts and proof from the Bible that it says when someone trespasses against you: forgive or you have to forgive!!!!!!!!!!
@nicholasdesouza6491
@nicholasdesouza6491 7 ай бұрын
@@TylerJTI ”“For if you forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. But if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.“ ‭‭Matthew‬ ‭6‬:‭14‬-‭15‬ ‭NKJV‬‬ The context is Jesus literally talking to the crowd on top of a mountain. It’s your interpretation you have to prove because the early Christians don’t support your view. And as I said before, Jesus’s own example proves He meant what He said. He commands His disciples to do the same because ”“A disciple is not above his teacher, nor a servant above his master.“ ‭‭Matthew‬ ‭10‬:‭24‬ ‭NKJV‬‬ Here are some more Scriptures: ”And be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God in Christ forgave you.“ ‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭4‬:‭32‬ ‭NKJV‬‬ ”bearing with one another, and forgiving one another, if anyone has a complaint against another; even as Christ forgave you, so you also must do.“ ‭‭Colossians‬ ‭3‬:‭13‬ ‭NKJV‬‬ ”“And whenever you stand praying, if you have anything against anyone, forgive him, that your Father in heaven may also forgive you your trespasses.“ ‭‭Mark‬ ‭11‬:‭25‬ ‭NKJV‬‬ ”Therefore the kingdom of heaven is like a certain king who wanted to settle accounts with his servants. And when he had begun to settle accounts, one was brought to him who owed him ten thousand talents. But as he was not able to pay, his master commanded that he be sold, with his wife and children and all that he had, and that payment be made. The servant therefore fell down before him, saying, ‘Master, have patience with me, and I will pay you all.’ Then the master of that servant was moved with compassion, released him, and forgave him the debt. “But that servant went out and found one of his fellow servants who owed him a hundred denarii; and he laid hands on him and took him by the throat, saying, ‘Pay me what you owe!’ So his fellow servant fell down at his feet and begged him, saying, ‘Have patience with me, and I will pay you all.’ And he would not, but went and threw him into prison till he should pay the debt. So when his fellow servants saw what had been done, they were very grieved, and came and told their master all that had been done. Then his master, after he had called him, said to him, ‘You wicked servant! I forgave you all that debt because you begged me. Should you not also have had compassion on your fellow servant, just as I had pity on you?’ And his master was angry, and delivered him to the torturers until he should pay all that was due to him. “So My heavenly Father also will do to you if each of you, from his heart, does not forgive his brother his trespasses.”“ ‭‭Matthew‬ ‭18‬:‭23‬-‭35‬ ‭NKJV‬‬
@TylerJTI
@TylerJTI 7 ай бұрын
None of those scriptures ephesians 4:32, colossians 3:13, matthew 18: 21-35, Mark 11:26 that you mentioned does not even support your claim nor even talks about the status of the person who was trepassed against, i am not entertian same old scriptures all that follow the doctrine like to run too and the same old arguments. None of them!!!!!! I will once again school you and give the truth, which is colossians 3:13. You are a waste of my time!!!!! Colossians 3: 13-14 it does not support this claim nor the status of the person who was trepassed against , the whole point of Paul asking the church of colosse to come put on charity, but the mistake that the Christians make on here, at the end of the later verse putting the false insertion forgive, which is not does not say that: let's look at it 13 Forbearing one another, and forgiving one another, if any man have a quarrel against any: even as Christ forgave you, so also do ye. 14 And above all these things put on charity, which is the bond of perfectness. At the beginning of the 13th verse, it says forgiving one another, but does not state nothing the person who was trepassed against!!!!!! It was Paul asking to forgive one another there is a difference!!!!!!! The other part where assume that you have to forgive and this poses a huge problem for you Christians, which is the false insertion that's not there let's look at it Even as christ forgave you: so do ye? It says christ forgave you? Forgave is past tense, it's not present tense!!!!! The other question who asked or stood in for christ to forgive them? Answer it! If you are going to say Paul, it does not say that Paul did!!!!!!! How can this false insertion forgive pertain to so do ye and christ already forgave them? If you look at the 14th verse at the word And, which is a conjuction preceding on to the next sentence or transition from the previous sentence, the so do ye was about charity. It's important to notice the false insertion( forgive) or you have to forgive for so do ye? Those other ones are not proof texts, I am not going to entertain those scriputes, those are same arguments and ones yall like to immediately run too l will ask again!!!!!!!!!! Where does it state in the bible when someone trespasses against you: you have to forgive or forgive!!!!!!!! Like I said,If you don't have a scripture, QUIT WASTING MY TIME AND YOURS!!!!!!!!
@nicholasdesouza6491
@nicholasdesouza6491 7 ай бұрын
@@TylerJTI and what about the parable of Jesus in Matthew 18? How do you explain it?
@nicholasdesouza6491
@nicholasdesouza6491 7 ай бұрын
@@TylerJTI also with the way you’re typing, I can’t understand your point. Type slower so I can understand what you’re trying to say.
@dumbministry
@dumbministry 6 ай бұрын
this is true Tyler you dont have to forgive anyone
@cyraxkkcb2mo10
@cyraxkkcb2mo10 5 ай бұрын
Sheesh I had this so called blood brother gave me the Judas hug one day the next day he went to go get a gun because he had in mind to shoot me..🫠🫠🫠...I forgive everyone butt I want nun to do with people who do me wrong..I hold no grudges..I want no revenge..just leave me alone...
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