When support structures fail, try this!

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[@MakersMuse]

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[@98f5]

Did u show my 3d printed car body at the start of this wow

[@cupcake_toucher445]

What software you use?

[@Lomhow]

What is the slicer though??

[@cupcake_toucher445]

@@Lomhow slicer is where you put 3d model and it writes instructions for 3d printer. Best one is MatterControl (cura is awful)

[@Kristjan-fc3mr]

​@@LomhowOrca Slicer

[@wisdomofnotch]

Orca has a really great feature called "hybrid tree support". It basically prints the supports as actual objects, with infill density and pattern that you can set to help give the trees the best mechanical properties possible while still reducing interface size. The only downside I've seen to this new feature so far is that it disables the variable layer height feature for objects while active.

[@orbatos]

Can you export the new geometry? I would try reimporting it and then slicing everything again. Seems like they "just" need to recalculate the slicing for the whole model after adding the new geometry. Slicing only the new geometry would result in bugs. I would say disabling it is probably a stopgap until they figure out a solution they like.

[@gascarengine]

How do I download orca? I've tried to look but I can't find anything on how to do it

[@wisdomofnotch]

@@orbatos I believe it is already using the variable layer height function for the hybrid trees, to maximize overhang strength and angle. I think it would just take unreasonably long to solve for multiple variable layer heights on the same plate.

[@orbatos]

@@wisdomofnotch I wonder about that, as it would change the external finish and potentially compromise the design in other ways. I'll have to mess with it myself, haven't used orca in a while

[@epicgamernik76]

What do you mean it prints them as "actual objects"

[@jeremymoore16]

Rectum linear grid. Got it

[@MakersMuse]

wait no 😭

[@Insomniac_on_pawz]

😦

[@dreamypotato]

I’m shook-

[@OrangeJuiceAddictCantGeometry]

YOU CAUGHT HIM IN 4K-

[@kolbyking2315]

It might be linear, but it definitely isn't straight.

[@nkronert]

"When all support structures fail, I turn to this one". Any reason why it should be last in the list then?

[@MakersMuse]

full video goes into it further, but the columns are very strong so can be harder to remove or damage fragile prints. It uses more material as well, but worth it for success!

[@nkronert]

@@MakersMuse Thanks!

[@EvilMinion111]

I don't think they really answered your question. My best guess is that this structure is less materially efficient. If your project can utilize simpler structures, use them. Otherwise, this is structure is nearly always a safe bet.

[@anonymousapproximation8549]

​@@EvilMinion111Makers Muse: already answered question You:

[@cirnopyramidcirnopyramid8796]

@@EvilMinion111they LITERALLY DID answer the question and the commenter replied to them saying “thanks”

[@davidperry4013]

Sometimes the best solution is to make your 3d prints a two parter so you can reduce or fully eliminate the need for supporting material.

[@FrontWaffle]

Then you need to glue your parts! Yay!

[@darkcloud5830]

@@FrontWaffle You have to glue your parts if you have more than 1 part anyway.

[@tubelesstrippin]

​@FrontWaffle that or if you're not entirely braindead and know what you're talking about and doing (anyone but you p much) will make them click together. 💀 this is nothing new

[@JimboJuice]

@@FrontWaffle you could also design a dovetail or other linkage into your parts and then use a soldering iron with a patterned tip to permanently bond them.

[@CircuitHusky]

I spy a kemono head base, always get a kick at the subtle hints in your videos!

[@Ancera]

Was thinking the same thing, wow that looks like a fursuit head

[@AtreidaeChibiko]

Oh that's not just any kigmask. That's a pony kigmask! I found Angus years and years ago when he was printing Twilights in his parents basement and acetone smoothing them with a rice cooker

[@-Kal-]

What, how did I not even notice?!

[@3nd0r]

That’s exactly what I was thinking!! I was just searching for it!!

[@Awkward_Skunks]

YEAHH i noticed this too

[@Kabel717]

OMG! Thank you!!! I have had a project just kicking my rear, and this worked.

[@darkd5ds]

organic tree support with 0.5 support distance is 😘.use less support material and they pop off ease with minimal to no clean up

[@00000EDDY00000]

100% i thought he was going to mention that in the video. For my printer the perfect top support distance is 0.22 now they pop off perfectly

[@Zerozsaber]

I use .3 instead of the default .2 and have had good results

[@darkd5ds]

@@00000EDDY00000 i might have put mine too far based off yall setting😄

[@calamityjane9826]

You mean support z-distance or support x/y-distance?

[@darkd5ds]

@@calamityjane9826 support/object distance but thats in orca ,i dont know the settings name in cura or other slicer

[@elitegaming1856]

Fun fact: 95% of the people watching this video don't actually have a 3d printer

[@dabbingraccoons6416]

Like me

[@HaloWolf102]

Just got 1 a week ago. Took me 10 long years to finally get one. Now I'm realizing all the important information I have glossed over.

[@gdj6298]

100% in this house. But yeah, I still watched it.

[@GizmoRBLX]

If u got a mmu printer, meaning it can print in more than one color/filament, just use pva for the supports, its made of cornstarch so its water soluble

[@cececox6399]

GENIUS. I can't stand seeing so much plastic waste being made. Especially when they're using MORE plastic in the supports than the actual printed product itself. ☠️🤦‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤣

[@YourLordMobius]

I built an mmu printer for just this, but pva is a pain, and petg and pla are incompatible materials. I primarily print in petg, so I just run some white pla for my support interface and boom pops right off when done.

[@SianaGearz]

PVA is made of PVA, not cornstarch. It is water soluble though and you're allowed to flush it down the drain. It is the most biodegradable of petrochemicals but as always scientific inquiry and debate is ongoing whether it's actually harmless or only sorta kinda harmless. It's also a complete pest to work with and horrendously expensive.

[@SianaGearz]

​@@cececox6399 the OP got it completely backwards. The actual hard plastic is made from cornstarch, it's a long chain sugar of lactic acid, PLA. With chain length, water solubility decreases drastically, and by the time it can be moulded and hold shape, it's not water soluble at all. The PVA water soluble support material is a petrochemical and it's also a main ingredient of paper glue.

[@YourLordMobius]

@@SianaGearz can confirm PVA is an absolute pain to print with and cost an arm and a leg. I dehydrate it regularly before use, and then print out of a heated dry box, and even then it's still not perfect. And it stinks to high heaven. I only use it in the rarest circumstances, usually something with TPU or an extremely flexible filament that doesn't like bridging.

[@please-wake-up-now]

Wow, I loved this tip! It's like a lifeline when things go wrong with supports! 🤯 I think experimenting with different support types really opens up creativity in 3D printing. Can't wait to try this out! 🎨

[@CelentAle]

The organic support is perfect and saves and plastic👍

[@SAG-studio]

Taking supports of is one of my favorite things about 3D printing

[@julithething2154]

what'cha printing there angus 👀

[@ZekeTheFur]

A fursuit 🤯

[@nate8930]

Finally a useful short. Thanks I'll try this out. My current supports are creating havoc on the underside for some reason.

[@jlmny]

nothing is as satisfying as getting a good friend and be funny

[@SpinyDani]

I've just been using bambu's organic(hybrid) and it works just fine

[@OneBasedOnion]

I thought that 3dprinting was like magic and you could make something without a support, this is so cool tho! So thats how it works 🤔

[@johngelnaw1243]

I use "Organic, slim", "build plate only" and set the interface layer to be PETG-- one of the advantages of multi-material.

[@DarkISO25]

Either hes part of both fanbases or this is an order. Hopefully its the former. One of us, one of us.

[@ZekeTheFur]

One of us one of us.

[@BluePhantomCreations]

These settings can work great. I found a post from Reddit while doing research and it was highly upvoted. 0.25mm z distance. • 75% xy distance. • 3mm support spacing. • 4 interface lagers. • 0.2mm interface layer spacing.

[@AndreasHagelberg]

Qidi has it as default in their slicer. I wondered why those supports were so much easier to remove than the default on my Prusa. Now I know.

[@Kevin-jb2pv]

I think the best way to do it would be to print something else that will fit inside the geometry of where the suppports for the larger piece will be, and then just bridge the two objects with support material. You're gonna be extruding that plastic either way, might as well make something useful out of it!

[@Sh0rtc1rcut456]

Just sent this to my dad, he has a 3D printer, two actually, he has a filament printer and a resin printer

[@Kirkaig]

I have always created my own supports when I model it. Sometimes I'll make it part of the model so it doesn't have to be removed. I just feel like the automatic ways will never be good enough for me.

[@MTwat_the_protogen]

WAIT WAIT WAIT is angus secretly a part of the furry fandom?

[@ZekeTheFur]

Maybe 🤯

[@harrypottah8889]

wish I was rich enough to afford a 3d printer

[@anthonyvargas7564]

anycubic, Kobra series , ebay, refurbished (no less than 90% refurbished), you're welcome

[@FalloutProto]

Printing the base for a fursuit head? Interesting

[@junglistmassive_]

i know where you live

[@dabbingraccoons6416]

I know where you take your shits every afternoon

[@niccoloreiss842]

I use a dual nozzle printer when I’m printing something that needs supports. Then I just do the supports similar to this but in a more rubberized (still strong tho just more flexible) filament and then do the actual print in the normal filament. They pop off fully cleanly, and I’ve never had these supports actually fail before due to structural issues, have had them fail due to printing or nozzle or feed issues though lol. Even under extremely heavy large print loads they simply don’t crack and fail because of that extra flexibility, yet when you apply a quick twisting force to them to remove them they just pop right off with little to no cleanup needed because the more rubbery filament sticks far better to itself than to anything else so it doesn’t leave anything behind, except maybe some printing artifact from having supports there in the first place but that only happens on crazy complex stuff and is easy to clean up.

[@laurenismeme]

I swear, my phone is listening to me- I was talking about it with a friend, and this is EXACTLY what I thought would be a problem trying to 3D print my first thing!

[@mattmakesmachines]

WAIT is angus a furry? massive W if he is

[@ZekeTheFur]

Real

[@dabbingraccoons6416]

But like fursuits look cringe as hell. I have nothing against furries but those costumes cause me physical pain

[@ZekeTheFur]

@@dabbingraccoons6416 thats fine if you dont like them. I have nothing against you

[@dabbingraccoons6416]

@@ZekeTheFur no I think they are amazingly built and well crafted and I just have bias.

[@ZekeTheFur]

@@dabbingraccoons6416 oh alr!! Thats fine. Im fine with you even if you find it cringe

[@deniser3467]

I love listening to the crunchy supports

[@vinod8941]

Support failing is not a problem, support removal is a real problem

[@Drcfan]

Thats one way to move tons of plastic into the garbage

[@jgreen2572]

Cool Innovation though maybe the support structure there could be turned into door stops for Dollar general type stores lol!

[@tbuckyfilms]

Holy shit that is so satisfying to see

[@civiliankillian]

i don’t even have a 3d printer but i watched all of it

[@NightShadow-em7gw]

Those remind me of high heels, like actual heels from shoes 🤭

[@collinwalker4838]

That's very similar if not the same as prusas default. Organic support is so much better.

[@makerofmoon]

should have known this yesterday

[@rogerrowden7229]

These support are the best, still a had one mess up and correct itself many lines up, before the support was actually needed...i know that probably doesn't make sense make sense to

[@crayolasun]

I know absolutely nothing about 3D printing, except that it looks cool. Can you remelt the support structures to use again?

[@kalenipclaw5683]

me without any access to a 3D printer: "interesting"

[@RatLobotomy]

Kigurumi base spotted

[@jbrizight]

Super secret, built right into the menu

[@Jaxtonv-vee]

I enjoy using supports

[@Orc-icide]

Conversely, recycling those supports is just as frustratingly hard. More support material = more microplastics in your own drinking water

[@kam833]

Personaly they are a pain becouse i have a resin printer and supports incredibly important on those. And the problem is that im poor and every drop of resin is a drop wasted, and 40€ a bottle inst cheep for me

[@Rangercv09]

Thanks my printer just made solid blocks for support

[@19tet]

blender irl whoaaas.. 🇴🇲 thats crazy!! 🇳🇴

[@legionjames1822]

nice tip. thank you

[@legionjames1822]

can you do a short to short on how to block off an area to print on a bed you already have somehing printed on. Terrible description but i think you get it. In bambu or orca slicer please

[@WednesdayTheClove]

Bambulab's support default is that.

[@AtharvaSalkar-nb7iq]

Problem is the amount of fillamesi it wastes

[@yellowroo]

Thought the curvy part was the support

[@elliot20201]

Dang, definitely not an option in one of the softwares we use. I'll look into this in the other one though!

[@R3dWolfie]

Prusaslicer settings please!! 🙏🏼

[@TimBaits]

What's this slicer

[@consumingkazoos]

NO WAY!!!!!!!! FURSUIT HEAD SPOTTED I KNOW WHAT YOU ARE

[@wannaseeamagictrick410]

what is Wheatley yapping about😭

[@darconium]

I’ve seen enough to recognize that’s a fursuit head base 😂

[@hazrust]

Imagine amount of waste material produced by not splitting your model so it won't need supports🥰

[@justins317]

That’s default on Prusa all day long. Bambu is just behind the curve.

[@TheMortemGaming]

Seems like it used a lot more pla this method

[@thepepchannel7940]

With my resin printer I have not really had any problems with the supports. I use ChituBox and always the light supports. The auto generation features has not once failed me and I only add supports manually very rarely. Even though people online seem to bitch about the auto-support function resulting in failed prints

[@maxentityita]

I will try this for sure

[@the_irs_real]

tree support suppremacy

[@jehoiakimelidoronila5450]

I didn't know support structures in 3d printing also had aesthetic options I'm not demeaning in any way, I'm just surprised that printers have that feature

[@autismo3201]

How do you strengthen the normal supports to adhere to the base better? Never had good luck with them so forced to use tree.

[@Eeevonn]

What about when you need to print supports inside of a concave, hard to reach area

[@Tome4kkkk]

Show me how you print a 12 mm diameter sphere/ball joint instead of this easily supportable geometry ;)

[@mechaboy95]

so its just normal rectilinear what is secret about this?

[@MakersMuse]

Rectilinear grid, makes way stronger columns which snap off in one go 👌 not for every print but great for large thin ones like helmets

[@Kori-ko]

Back in the Simplify3D days this wasn't an infill you could select. You had to pick rectilinear and add two perpendicular angles to your list of angles. I'm happy to know that it's still in slicers but still not a default.

[@king_james_official]

@@Kori-kowho's on your pfp

[@Kori-ko]

@@king_james_official Me

[@simonero96]

They were popular before tree supports. Now we are tired of the tree supports and back to this again?

[@ImmortalReaver]

So your secret support type is manual sports? Right 🤨

[@SixteenTonesStudio]

why would you print something like that pink surface which needs 75% support structure, rather than using some other method of sculpting? It seems like an excuse to use the printer, when you could craft it out of fiberglass, or mold a plastic sheet, etc.

[@satibel]

if you've got multi material, good ol' pva interface (or other soluble interface material)

[@dawsjuan]

I want to get into 3D printing so bad. I love modeling, and programming but I just don’t have the money for it

[@ADCruz2]

But are they efficient? Like, as far as filament use goes, aren't they a little excessive?

[@WockMonkey]

Im assuming this would use more material than the default support structure?

[@billtree52]

Can't just lay a design on it's side or something so you don't have to waste that much plastic? IDK anything about 3d printing so I'm actually curious why you can't rotate the object around where so much of it has to be supported

[@angelmatiastorres]

I almost ascended

[@AC-hj9tv]

I wish I could understand this

[@harrypotamus4968]

Looks like the bottom right corner of a mask

[@BoomBoomMushroom]

What slice is this? And will it work for my Creality Ender-3 S1?

[@jebronekitty]

I hate snug so much, it literally leaves behind so much material and it's so hard to get off.

[@FizzBirdMan]

My 3d printer head fan is siezed. So my support material kinda just fuses with my parts

[@IamFrost]

Tree in orca is the better option

[@yazeed.9752]

I think this design needs more material

[@Evan-hm7tz]

Also printing is a wonderful thing

[@lindsayshanks7555]

I know next to nothing about 3d printers, and I'm curious Can you reuse that material that you break off? Or do you just have to accept that it can't be used again?

[@DrMoonAtNight]

The filament can be melted down and reused.

[@JimboJuice]

There are plenty of different ways to recycle them back into filament depending on your budget.

[@BNA_VR]

Wait people have been using tree support I’ve been using the square one since getting my printer

[@Zakumei]

nice fursuit head.

[@sparky1570784]

Yea but what's your settings?

[@RVBFan182]

Does this only work in prusaslicer or does cura have this option as well?

[@CassidyTakanauf]

I just use my brother's hands as support.

[@chrislambe400]

I use his toothbrush to scrub my textured plate

[@brokencreationlordmegatrol3037]

Oh wait I think I I might have been using this on accident XD

[@ibironuxendorf8901]

Nombre del programa? Me gustaría intentar configurarlo para una Ender 3 neo, por lo visto tiene lindas configuraciones ese programa

[@TheCoolStuffHD]

Rectal Linear 🧐

[@milesmcwilliams]

My under three pro s one probably would not need most support.. It can print at a forty five degree angle.

[@leightonwestbury92]

My printer on the best sertings doesnt peint as good as his supports do 😔

[@JinHeric]

The Echo 😭

[@angels-art-corner]

why does that model look like part of a kemono fursuit base