When The Black Phase is over.

[@michellewilliams5533]

I'm old enough to remember when Pink ended her black phase. My cousin called it but I believed it wasn't a phase. I was dead wrong.

[@realamericannegro977]

I remember that version of Pink too. Smh

[@DitoCapsuleFan]

I’m very curious as to when her “black era” was supposed to be

[@michellewilliams5533]

@fernanditonh5994 her first album. It was R&B pop and she was marketed as a white R&B singer. Completely different production and style than what she has become known for.

[@alyssalemoine00]

Pink and Christina Aguilera made me very uncomfortable. Mostly Christina lol

[@MurvMuzik]

​@@DitoCapsuleFanHer first album

[@tomtom2719]

Racism? In metal? Absurd! Varg has a black friend so as we all know that means metal can not be racist. Glad I settled all that for good.

[@TheTrumpReaper]

Varg Vikernes has a black friend? How did that happen? "Absurd". I see what you did there.

[@fyrelore5365]

​@@TheTrumpReaper Kanye I guess 😆

[@stankycrusthunk]

How can metal be racist when I saw a brown person wearing a Great Southern Trendkill shirt the other day? Take that Phil Anselmo haters. Racism is over.

[@birkobird]

varg has a black friend (burnt to a crisp inside a church)

[@TheTrumpReaper]

@@birkobird I cannot stop laughing at this (and I am a black broad). 😅😅🔥⛪🔥

[@jacksampsonforever]

Skye sent me. Great video

[@professorskye]

Love to see it! :)

[@lucash5077]

I will say one of the few genres where i think black folk are accepted into a genre thats kindve sterotypically “white” is hardcore punk (despite a lot of it originating from black bands like bad brains). Right now we have got a lot of bands with black frontmen like zulu and end it that are currently killing it.

[@huyivant5190]

Couldn’t agree more, and thanks for the contemporary recommendations

[@bsod111]

cuz punk was always about inclusion and anti-racism, even if it is stereotypically associated with white kids from suburbia

[@MazChuga]

Sad that we have to be accepted into something we created 😅

[@maryjanedodo]

Well yeah, Punk was never about race, it's about social justice

[@drpibisback7680]

Don't be sleeping on my boys Kaonashi and Soul Glo, too. So much good stuff.

[@MCMGEVVS]

Post Malone, Justin Bieber, Miley Cyrus, Yelawolf, Kid Rock, Mark Wahlberg etc. the list goes on p.s Justin Timberlake, even JellyRoll

[@Heathmcdonald]

Jelly never was famous as a rapper oy once he started doing country

[@TheHumanPurpleTape]

Pink, Christina Aguilera...

[@blayzej]

Yup, all culture vultures, might have to include Mr. PDF file Colonizer

[@viktorberzinsky4781]

I actually have to disagree on Yelawolf. The guy never lied about who he was and actually made some decent music. Not to mention he actually demonstrated a capacity to grow as a person when he denounced the confederate flag.

[@abc4781]

Cant forget vanilla ice

[@outergalacticmarauderfacti6950]

The worst example fs is kid rock fr fr

[@kj_H65f]

Fr fr

[@superdavelane4]

Facts. Even MGK. Use rap to get known, than make music you really want for the audience you really wanted.

[@BlackBoyKingTV]

Fred Durst

[@cbrownterry]

@@BlackBoyKingTV nah Fred Durst is a solid ass dude who just likes having fun that man has always done it exactly his way and even though im not a fan i feel like i gotta speak up on that one hes still doing it all and exclusively for the nookie

[@CoyoteCrush]

Yeah kid rock is wayyyyy worse. He straight up drove from his parents nice mini mansion in country/burbs to hang out with local rappers and street wise people, folks who weren't Caucasian. He literally leeched anything and everything they could provide him, knowledge, opportunities, new records, etc. He created a persona from this, became a Vanilla Ice Clone, flopped, stole some more ideas, hit big, and now he straight up disses not only the exact crew that accepted his McCauley Culkin looking ass into their group and mentored him, but the same fucking genre that he once embraced and championed, hip hop made him rich and now he's Mr. Right wing White America Redneck Republic "Born Free" Nashville Country and embarrassed by it. The man has a son who's Half Black for Christ sake and says derogatory things about the race his son mixed with. He says racist shit as blatantly as he can without crossing that line and being obvious but it's there. Fred Durst truly loves and is inspired by rap/hip hop and has made no attempt to retcon that part of his past. Straight up, Kid Rock is the worst Vulture of Culture since Hip Hops creation.

[@FishareFriendsNotFood972]

Came here from FD, loved the video, and now I'm a new subscriber!

[@FatCharlie215]

Awesome! Thank you!

[@acephaedramusic9588]

"I can't be racist my wife is white" Good one I subbed😂 Edit: wait I'm already subbed? Well, you convinced me twice apptly. With the childish gambino vid. Keep it up king!

[@breeblesaintokay7548]

THE SCREAM I SCRUMPT WHEN HE SAID THAT 😂 Right, I subbed immediately too loool

[@livinginmissouri3876]

Obviously One of his parents are also

[@ctorres236]

@@livinginmissouri3876it’s not obvious at all actually

[@iokastethem]

Great video, Professor Skye recommended it!

[@professorskye]

Love to see it! :)

[@Mogodu_Rachoshi]

Oh professor is here too

[@coursecorrection4105]

It’s insane that Black people created rock and country and we have such a hard time being accepted by fans of those genres.

[@Lxrzo]

they take everything, we're always accepting them into hip hop and whatever but soon as we wanna get into rock then its a problem 🙄🙄🙄

[@cameronphlodge1293]

Black people did not invent country bro you're smoking crack. I don't wanna hear the stupid Banjo argument either. If the Banjo argument is acceptable then we can say Rock and Roll is a white genre since all the instruments used in that genre came from Europe.

[@realamericannegro977]

That's what white people do like they have done to lands and cities

[@FatCharlie215]

Thats why no one likes you

[@kingb3746]

@@FatCharlie215????????

[@dustinsmith7259]

I'm so glad you're saying this. When Post Malone first started popping off a few years back, something felt not authentic and I just wasn't feeling him. Some of my friends did, but I just couldn't take him serious as a "rapper" as a lot of people tried to call him back then. When he left his phase, it didn't surprise me.

[@mordakie3805]

He wasn’t rap tho

[@dustinsmith7259]

@@mordakie3805 that’s what I’m saying

[@abaofifsz]

I disagree. I feel was def hip hop. His first mixtape was absolute low key fire. He had larry june on it ffs. But the guests did not bring their a game.

[@viktorberzinsky4781]

Post Malone drove me away by doing the one thing a lot of mainstream rappers or people calling themselves did at the time...He bored the hell out of me. Not to mention something about his aesthetic felt fake or overblown.

[@michaelhaydenbell]

Yall realize there's nobody out there that will tell you that Post is not a totally stand-up guy? The precedent that yall are trying to set here is crazy, equivocating him with fucking Kid Rock and MGK n shit...basically making it a rule that nobody white is allowed to expand their musical horizons if they started in hiphop. Even though Post has been fusing in rock and folk and other shit into his music since day one. Yall realize a lot of this was probably also the LABEL heavily demanding what the albums and singles look like and not necessarily him, and now that he's huge he gets a longer leash to do what he wanted all along.

[@DeltaWave]

skye sent me

[@professorskye]

Love to see it! :)

[@sealedindictment]

machine gun kelly? “i’ve always been rock” 😂

[@snakeplissken5209]

I mean check machine gun kelly - swing life away and tell me theres no rock influence

[@SoDamnGangsta]

@@snakeplissken5209bro swing life away is literally just a song from a rock band called rise against

[@lilbeezyspc]

Kid Rock said the same thing with country music too

[@saintfreezy6914]

he has though, and he never stopped rapping

[@SirEricArthurBlair]

He just got whooped and needed a place to recuperate.

[@megawavy09]

I’m so happy he used post Malone in the thumbnail 😂

[@Daboistax]

I mean....I liked and subscribed based off of that so...mission accomplished 🤷🏿‍♂️

[@felon1113]

i liked & subscribed cause of the intro.that let me know he know something not just talking.cause me being a artist i know we invented almost all genres of music but never the face.. ie now they trying 2 say we aint invent hip hop or rap🤦🏿‍♂️

[@fishyinnadurag610]

​@felon1113 did you invent Asian music as well lmfao

[@homersimpson6167]

​@@felon1113😂😂😂 clown

[@juancarlosfigueroaramon2015]

Tf you mean 'we' 😂 ​@@felon1113

[@LifeOnCoach]

I no longer care for people who can take their ball and go home. ✌🏾

[@rschloch]

JT didn’t just have Timbaland…he also had the Neptunes

[@FatCharlie215]

yea, kicked myself for forgetting that

[@Gralive]

skye sent me here

[@professorskye]

Love to see it! :)

[@Gralive]

@@professorskye woah holy cow hi professor skye big fan

[@thevinyltruffle]

I bet a few people were like “wait, what does Elvis have to do w Post Malone?” lol. Fools.

[@FatCharlie215]

thanks a lot- new video drops 7/27/24

[@KAM-rl6tz]

As a Gen Xer, I am very aware of Elvis’ history in the industry. For that reason, till this day I don’t listen to Elvis.

[@Kalitayy]

I remember when he said "it's a struggle to be white..", I stopped taking him seriously. You cannot be so out of touch and say something like that. And when he collabed with Morgan Wallen, that confirmed me he's just another colonizer. Shame.

[@MossTunic]

also when post malone said something like that rap is just for fun... so ignorant, entitled, & privileged to act the way he does. he's a colonizer for sure

[@yondeefeedz]

So is it not possible to be white and struggle?

[@gfys756]

​@@yondeefeedzNope. No white person has ever struggled in their life.

[@JLite.]

​@@yondeefeedzstruggling while white does not mean you struggle for being white Don't be dense

[@yondeefeedz]

@@JLite. says who? My life hasn’t been hard cause I’m black

[@booon-booon]

great video professor skye sent me

[@professorskye]

Love to see it! :)

[@TIENxSHINHAN]

I can't even hate Post Malone. After his comments on hip hop, black folks told him to quit playing around in our culture if he didn't take it seriously and he promptly left us alone and went to country music. I gotta respect it on some level, black folks spoke and he listened.

[@Head_Turnah]

Honestly

[@renegadetherapper]

Great video. Would love for you to do a similar breakdown on Ariana Grande. She used a fake “blaccent” & black culture to her advantage when it helped her career then completely abandoned it to embrace her whiteness (even getting rid of her intensely fake tan) so she could get hired on Broadway - her actual dream.

[@EGarza-mk2mk]

That's not a fake tan though being that she is Italian (a Latin person)

[@MossTunic]

​@@EGarza-mk2mk nope, look at pictures from her acting days & even before that. she's always been incredibly pale naturally & is pale again now. she was purposefully trying to be vaguely ethnic to manipulate an intersection of audiences to her advantage.

[@MossTunic]

​@@EGarza-mk2mklook at pics of her before her music career, she has been extremely pale her whole life.

[@renegadetherapper]

@@EGarza-mk2mk I am aware she is Italian, but it’s NO coincidence she was tan while using a blaccent & rubbing elbows with black culture then when she abandoned said blaccent & abandoned black culture she also abandoned the tan. Think about it …

[@Antony_Paz]

@@EGarza-mk2mkthat doesn't mean nothing different races exist in all latin countries including Latin America, there's Latinos who are as white as snow and ofc there's Latinos who are dark skinned or Afro-Latin or indigenous etc. Mixed

[@GoingLeft]

Soooo happy you did this story he’s been mad disrespectful here lately to the genre that gave him his fame and fortune and let us not forget MILEY CYRUS

[@GoingLeft]

@@cinemachronic Miley said she had grown up and gotten away from rap because all they talk about is doing D-rugs and degrading women -GIRL GOODBYE

[@DeadpoolX9]

Jimi Hendrix got famous/established in England before America. Otherwise he’d have been trapped in the R and B style.

[@sharondalewis1620]

Whats crazy is that Post Malone said he wasn't hip hop and downplayed his whole minstrelsy, when "White Iverson" is a DIRECT reference to Allen Iverson, a black American pro basketball player who rocked his iconic cornrow designs and was ALSO a rapper signed to Universal records as "Jewels." Like WTF why say you're the White version of a rapper but also not a rapper 🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️ the intellectual deception and gaslighting is baffling

[@bapob]

I might be wrong here and you can clown on me if I am, but I'm pretty sure that in genius interviews he states that the name white Iverson comes from the basketball part of Iversons career, not the rapper part. He was just his favourite player, that's why the song mentions balling a bunch of times.

[@marquesterry3585]

Beyonce has been getting attacked for crossing over to country as well.

[@Pearls_Have_Eyes]

anyone attacking Bey for that is a moron

[@daoyang223]

I need to listen to that song. How good is it? Im not a country fan btw lol but i just want to know how country it actually sounds. Cause i know bro country is getting flack all the time and i hate that sub genre even more lol

[@Ohjgfdghjfu]

Because she’s not a country artist and it’s really bad music

[@marcusd1388]

​@@Ohjgfdghjfu you people are hypocrites and you know exactly who I mean when I say you people

[@matthewsengendo6302]

She is know in her White Person Phase

[@workshoptelescope]

The truth on Sevendust being told. Thank you.

[@LangSmith.]

Sonic blackface is such an apt way to describe this fr.

[@jameyroberti1517]

it says something that you and FD noted Marlon, who coincidentally is underrated by mainstream

[@FatCharlie215]

truly underrated

[@AndrewScott1337]

I agree with everything you said man. I’m a white musician who loves the plethora of art that has come from the black community. The reason I am able to hash out a mediocre career in music is because I studied jazz. It gave me the vocabulary to basically play any genre of music on the planet. However, I never cynically used the aesthetics of black art as a tool to be subversive or popular, I always found that shit to be not genuine. There’s a big difference between being inspired by and learning from black art and faking an identity around it.

[@AndrewScott1337]

You are also on point about racism in Metal. Metal is my favorite genre of music, and I think we are on our way to eradicating bigotry from that genre of music. Going to metal shows in Southern California gives me a hope that metal can be a place where everyone feels welcome, and as fans we need to make it known that bigotry in any form is not tolerated.

[@SuperheroChuck]

I really like your concise analysis. Your writing is very clear and effective, and you don't skip any important points. That's really hard to do.

[@FatCharlie215]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@YouCallThataKnife253]

Loving all the uploads. Feels like your voice is getting stronger. Keep up the good work, brother

[@FatCharlie215]

thanks- i appreciate that

[@blayzej]

Post Malone doesn't even rap, but sure as hell kept using Hip Hop beats and surround himself with rappers... He milked our culture, many if not most accepted him, and now that he's done using Hip Hop he acts increasingly like he never knew her... Smh, apart from a few like MC Search, Vinnie Paz and Eminem, all others should be discarded and not supported, most are just culture vultures

[@kaydgaming]

El-P is legit too

[@Ues2DC]

As an older hip hop fan I’ve thought the genre has been mostly trash mainstream wise for over 20 years. We’ve seen through all of these artists from the beginning but you were called a hater for having any kind of standards for the music. And so here we are.

[@Notimportant253]

Bones is a pretty underrated white rapper imo. Stays out the way in his own lane, makes the music he loves and wears his weird hodge podge of differing influences on his sleeve.

[@vishishify]

Don't forget Paul Wall and El-P

[@MZRTMusic254]

Bro, hip-hop beats aren't copyrighted to be used by black people only. Like any other genre, it's a style of music. If a beat works for your lyrics, it works. You don't need permission from anyone to make a hip-hop beat, rnb, rock, edm or any genre. If I'm writing a rock song and there's a part where a hip-hop beat would fit better, I'll make the creative decision to cook up something along that line. That's how music evolves. Not through gatekeeping. There's people who just want to explore as many corners of music as they can. Make discoveries and pioneer new shit

[@amber7591]

It reminds me of that quote from dwight when he was trying to get gym members for his closet gym. “I know how to build a business. You gotta’ get the black people to do it in order to to get the white people to do it. Then you gotta’ get the black people to stop doing it.”

[@Cjohnsonmuisc]

That photo collage of the unfinished dorito pantings has me wanting to go scoop a bag real quick lol. Awesome video brother, this topic is so real and ik glad you're breaking the topic down so easily.

[@badboygoodgirl]

Bro LMAO at this title

[@pocketgrim4942]

I agree with your message i just hope it doesnt get misconstrued into "Dont try to make different genres of music" I never knew post kinda downplayed hip hop like that and to me that shows he made that music moreso to get his name out there, but more than one genre can resonate with a person and if they wanna make music in a different genre every album they can, just show respect to the genre.

[@softboyty]

The Switch up is real

[@jordanmontgomery8029]

As a metalhead who grew into rap I love this video, well done man, excited to get here before you blow up! Also I shall definitely be giving Sister Rosetta a listen!

[@tmacnavyseal4789]

Ice T left the black phase .He started out gangster rap then starred in the 1984 movie Breakin then he pivot to heavy metal during the 90s and has never looked back at hip hop culture

[@B.Wayne88]

He sure did. With 2pac it was the opposite theater kid turn into wannabe gangster.

[@fourhorsemenmechanix757]

Your time line is wrong. Breaking came before all his gangster rap music. Breaking came out in '84 and "Six in the morning" came out in '86. And he released gangsta/militant rap through out the 90s too

[@tmacnavyseal4789]

@@fourhorsemenmechanix757 ice t was always a gangster rapper even when hip hop started during the 80s .But since he was the new guy he rap about Dj breaking just to put himself out there . Ice t was already hanging out with gang members way before Six in the morning rap

[@tmacnavyseal4789]

@@fourhorsemenmechanix757 The movie breakin was rated PG the movie was about dancing .Why would the movie producer let Ice T perform a gangster rap during a break dance scene . During that time 1984 off camera Ice T was hanging out with gang members

[@fourhorsemenmechanix757]

@@tmacnavyseal4789 Thats true but you gotta remember that "gangsta rap/ reality rap" wasn't really a thing back in the early 80s (atleast on wax). The earliest "reality rap" record is probably The message while the first actual gansta track to gain some level of popularity (in the under ground) was PSK by schooly d (released in '85 I think). So I think it's simply a matter of Ice not even realizing that you CAN put songs like that on wax. I've heard him talk about that specific schooly d track and how that inspired him to move away from the electro raps to actually writing gangsta rap, which resulted in him releasing six in the morning (which then inspired NWA to release Boyz in the hood).

[@JELKEK]

I’ve thought about the post malone thing a lot lately with his sudden country sound, great video to dive deeper into that.

[@uncvic1]

Nice breakdown, The Company Man brought me here. (subscribed)

[@jaymz010]

I actually didn’t mind Post Malone, until he started publicly sh*tting on the genre/culture that made him famous & paid his bills. Add to the fact that he was never very good. Not even mid , as far as an MC goes.

[@kayo_vs]

I really liked Post Malone at one point, but this is a VERY clear sign of him getting what he wanted out of a culture and then dipping. I get evolving as an artist but bro makes complete hick music now

[@jaylamitchell-wc6wf]

i remember back in 5th i was telling my friend about how wild our bus was, food trash on the ground, yelling, computers and phones out, sometimes the bus driver stopped the bus just to yell at us to sit down and be quiet, she laughed and said she wanted to be on our bus but only for a day. I think that can be like an analogy for this, my bus is boring and your bus sounds fun or "edgy" so I wanna be on your bus then go back to my bus. i think people see hip hop as a black thing or as an "edgy" thing and wanna be on that bus because of either envy, money, or fame, then go back to their style or bus after they've done all they wanna do

[@kiwi4356]

While it’s obvious that you’re right in various aspects and I generally agree, we shouldn’t dismiss the fact that hip hop music and specially trap did widely overtake the mainstream pop space. With its sounds and feats of trap artists. Taken into consideration that it’s obvious that Posty just wants to make music that sounds cool to him and will reach an audience, it’s no wonder that he began his commercial career with a trap sound and aesthetic. Nonetheless, mis more “wide” and pop approach to this music, regardless of the envelope, has always been there since the beginning (not just country, rap or pop, he’s also made rock/metal songs with artists such as Ozzy). It’s also comprehensible that even he didn’t really know at the time of he was a rapper or not, cause tbh he was sandwiched in between different categories that, given the circumstances, did not fully apply. So, and I guess this is my point, I don’t think Post Malone vultured on black music to take profit as mean and willingly as it may seem. I may be wrong, but I honestly think he’s just a young songwriter that began his career in the middle of a heavily trap influenced mainstream scene at the time. And he just adapted. It also happened in the inverse, as black artists like Swae Lee decided to jump into a much more pop oriented sound (Being “Sunflower” feat Posty the big song that defined that change). Nice video.

[@Daboistax]

Three takeaways: Marlon Craft is dope AF. Post Malone is appalled that he had to do N-word music to get famous and I'm surprised you didn't utilize that clip of Austin dropping the N-word while watching "Too Cute" with his friend way before "White Iverson" - back when he wanted to be a folk singer....kinda like he is now since his Black Phase is over. I'm not surprised in the slightest that Morgan Wallen is the homie. 😒 Great vid and I'm looking forward to more.

[@FatCharlie215]

thanks a lot, and im kinda kicking myself for not knowing about Austin and the N word - i might reference it in my eminem video. thanks a lot

[@C12omega]

I think in Rap Post Malone was trying to channel a mix of Jonathan Davis and Bizzy Bone. Now he's doing what Kid Rock did-started as a Detroit rapper and now a country singer. And apparently, Post Malone has a major partnership with Raising Cane's Chicken Restaurants.

[@whoopyrock]

Great content I'am here because of Professor Skye's and Companyman.Thanks from The Netherlands🙏🏼😘😍

[@augustej]

Amazing vid! Its great that you talked about Mark Wahlberg's crimes, it is not talked about enough imo

[@daoyang223]

I think he did an apology but it disappeared. From what i heard hardly anyone saw it anyways. I kinda wonder how he feels about us POC now.

[@augustej]

@@daoyang223 yeah, I believe he cried about it on some show but i dont think he truly regret any of it

[@IScreamedWolf]

10:32 Marlon Craft is the top example of a rapper who’s white not a white rapper I was thinking of him the entire time in the video lol

[@deviousj5868]

Ima have to point you to AESOP ROCK. Go listen he's been holding it down since the 90s

[@IScreamedWolf]

@@deviousj5868 also another great example

[@TheRedDeath25]

Seven Dust is amazing!!

[@daoyang223]

Seven Dust is sick and Straight Line Stitch is sick too. The singer is a Black woman and she both growls and sings beautifully

[@allankuria9923]

Post Malone's moustache looks like two capybaras kissing. 😊

[@Jaheartsjonas]

😂

[@ezanderson8834]

Darius Rucker and Eminem went through worst coming up as a white rapper 8 mile was just a movie it had real moments in it

[@kj_H65f]

Both Darius and Marshall are artists in their craft

[@ezanderson8834]

@kj_H65f yea I didn't mean to make it seem like Darius was a rapper I said his name bc he was black coming up in country music then the Eminem statement was supposed to be on it's own

[@Heathmcdonald]

Hootie and the blowfish isn't country tho its alt rock

[@ezanderson8834]

@Heathmcdonald yes the band was but Darius has always been country by himself

[@julin8597]

Eminem used to say stop giving me awards because I am white!

[@daoyang223]

Charlie. Can you do a video on the phenomenon of White guys who go from heavy metal to like country or butt rock? I feel so many bands like Metallica and All That Remains and Slipknot were going through an identity crisis and then just succumbed to sounding like every Southern carnival rock band ever. I feel like it happens so often and Id love to see you cover that

[@kj_H65f]

When did Metallica "go country' in your estimation? I dont know if I agree wrt them but I have seen it in other metal bands

[@chrisheimva4857]

@@kj_H65f Metallica did do a country song once on the Load album (Mama Said). The Load and Reload cycle was filled with blues-y grunge rock. On St. Anger there was a vague attempt at incorporating the heavy grunge and nu-metal of the day. Afterwards however they have pretty much stuck to their initial thrash metal roots as far as I can tell.

[@superdavelane4]

I'm a lifelong hip hop head that enjoys rock, I wish I understood the nuance and types rock, shame that legends in all genres switch up in 4th quarter.

[@daoyang223]

@superdavelane4 it happens a lot man. Some bands switch from deathcore to metalcore. Some go from fast and technical to generic slam. Some bands even go from heavy metal to easy listening ballads. Its sad man.

[@IsntGwen]

Meshuggah is the one band I've found to consistently just do what they do. they've gotten better after every release and dont bend one way or another to get more listens.

[@ArtRebelsBloc]

Bro super great video. well written presented and very informative

[@FatCharlie215]

Much appreciated!

[@kyzerwolf8923]

Sup dude. Prof Skye recommended yo channel so I'm here to show some love ✌🏾😎. Good breakdown but I was so confused by the way you ended the video. I thought my Internet had stopped working for a sec 🤣🤣

[@lindseyb2586]

This was an amazing video essay and also hilarious. Super well researched, immediately subscribed

[@FatCharlie215]

Welcome aboard!

[@matthewevans107]

Talking about black people in rock/metal, Skin, the lead (amazing) vocalist for rock band Skunk Anansie headlined a main stage at Glastonbury in the 90’s. This made her debatably the first black female artist (Sandra “Puma” Jones could also claim this but she wasn’t the lead vocalist for Black Uhuru, Skin was for Skunk Anansie) and, the first British black artist and maybe first black openly LGBTQIA artist to headline a main stage at Glastonbury. The media completely ignored this and heralded Beyoncé and Stormzy respectively before backtracking and adding “solo” as a caveat.

[@cosmiccomedy7394]

I think rappers should be allowed to experiment with different genres and grow their sound. before he passed Mac Miller was getting a ton of jazz influence and it was some of my favorite music of his. Sometimes when people experiment its a hit and sometimes its a miss. But i think we should encourage artists to push the boundaries and push themselves as artists. Thats just my opinion though. Enjoyed the video mate, cheers.

[@nicholaswoollhead6830]

Love the deadpan delivery. And I appreciate the insight.

[@cydelegs]

I liked how succinct you are so I’m interested to hear other takes. Subscribed

[@CrimminalHEXX]

I dont see post as a vulture. He definitely has a genuine love for the craft however he recognized that if he stayed hip hop his relevancy would die like other white rappers beside Em. He's just seems like a genuine laid back dude I can't hate in anyway.

[@Mark-se4dr]

Didn't he rag on Hip Hop once he was done with it?

[@crazychadmb]

I always thought the originator was Little Richard. When it comes to white rappers, I think the whitest would be Brother Ali, who's albino. He's talked about bullying and not being accepted as a kid. "It's not like black kids didn't make fun of me, but it was different. It wasn't done in a way to exclude me. It wasn't done in a way to make me feel like not even a human being, not even a person."

[@abaofifsz]

Ty so much for referring to 7D. Have not heard of them for a long fucking time. They were so good. As children we did not even notice his race. So underrated and no one ever calls back to them or references them.

[@matthemming9105]

Professor Skye sent me

[@professorskye]

Love to see it! :)

[@MelloTreezTV]

Justin Timberlake been singing Jodeci songs since he was child on the Mickey Mouse Club before *NSYNC got together. Plus he releases an album once every decade and I think I just shows his transitions in life. I think it was the reverse feeling of Michael Jackson when he branched off from the bros, RnB, and disco and focused on pop music and ballads instead JT went from his pop group to make RnB.

[@lcceo22]

He's just another Kid Rock IMO I won't be surprised if he goes full on country within five years.

[@lightning_mcqueen_official-l3j]

I agree with what you say, but it sucks when an actually talented non-black rapper/smooth r&b singer gets automatically gets labeled as a sellout

[@yanahakai]

"Their roots" aka rock/punk were made by 🥁🥁🥁 black artists! So unless you mean European music styles "white music" is still black music at the end of the day.

[@manmadeaids]

Wrong

[@dthagoat1268]

Fax let em know

[@dthagoat1268]

@@manmadeaidsright black people have started blues,jazz,house,techno,rap,rnb, list goes on

[@froglifes6829]

​@@dthagoat1268Techno is european

[@dthagoat1268]

@@froglifes6829 google it bro💀takes a single search

[@easiedoesit3741]

Thank you so much bro. Nobody wants to give us our props

[@TheDan14]

I have been, am currently, and shall remain pre malone. . . thank you I’ll be here all week

[@flawedissector]

Just completed binging all of your vids! Happy to be caught up

[@FatCharlie215]

Awesome! Thank you!

[@matthewpitre8159]

Example I just discovered little peep literally Mixed emo music and rap and it sounds Amazing and he passed away tragically young rip lil peep I'm just saying the blend was good

[@Yhdyssanakoe]

Really good video! I subscribed :) Umm, I hope I don't come across annoying, but I think adding some soft music in the background would make the cuts, and stops between sentences feel a bit less lonely? Just a thought 💕

[@FatCharlie215]

working on it- my music library kinda sucks

[@naheemquattlebaum2267]

The Company Man via Skye sent me. *(Sits down)* 🍿

[@tictactems]

prof skye sent me

[@professorskye]

Love to see it! :)

[@drxzt]

mentioning Sevendust gave me such a nostalgic feel, the goosebumps I felt from those songs back then.

[@WYOProductions]

great video man! I can say a ton of names that just hopped on black culture for the trend the bounced so fast and leaving it behind and won't even acknowledge iy anymore

[@deathmetalglenn]

The vocalist for Sevendust is absolutely phenomenal, the music quality wavers but he is always absolutely solid! Wasn't expecting to see them mentioned🤘🏼

[@BlueBeetle1939]

Damn you look just like your cartoon avatar I forgot what I was actually about to say

[@cemetery.driveYT]

I’m glad someone else noticed this also. Great video.

[@TylerRein]

Good analysis. Subbed!

[@plusmin09]

"My wife is white, I can't be racist." bahaha! nice It's a thin line to walk for a white artist in some cases. If a white musician completely immerses themselves in a black genre like Rap then they often get criticized for being unauthentic or taking advantage of the culture that they are embodying, and just unwelcome and undeserving of attempting a genre dominated by black artists. On the other hand, if they stay in their lane and show another side that leans more towards a stereotypically white genre, like Country, then they get criticized for never having been true to rap and that culture, as they are exposing their true intent. At this point in music and technology, it is basically inevitable that you are going to enjoy more than just a couple genres of music. Most people will like at least something from just about every genre of Western music. Having a loyalty to one genre and practicing the style, wardrobe, and culture associated with that genre, (like the clothing style and accessories of Punk Rock for example), is a dated notion at this point. Showing a connection to and an affinity for multiple genres as an artist is probably more of an honest representation at this point. Many artists transition into more mature and relaxed genres as they themselves mature and embody those characteristics. Rap, similar to other genres like Punk, and a lot of Pop, is often times brash, superficial, vulgar, energetic, materialistic, and sexist. All of which tend to be qualities of the youth. Many older artists of these genres move towards different genres that more properly embody the traits of their age, (like later Blink 182, 311, Chumbawamba, Darius Rucker, Miley Cyrus, and Post Malone.) If you look at the commonality of older artists gravitating towards more mellow and toned down genres then it can be interpreted as more of a natural progression than just superficially using a genre as a ploy for financial success. And ya, fuck Marky Mark

[@curlycutie6017]

So these more mature genres aren’t just as sexist materialistic or vulgar like country???? Please stop and also these white “rappers” that’s start with unauthentic personalities like the KZbinr said usually use it as a leather jacket as a edgy thing, they often pretend the life style, Em talked about his life style and experiences which made him a main stay, which these white “rappers” rarely do they put on a facade which is easily see through to black people. Also these white rappers often have problematic vibes and don’t actually care for the art form… your just a butt hurt white person that feels hit by the video

[@micaeljr2914]

Skye sent me. Great video!

[@ninskdesign]

Josh Johnson did a great stand up set on the black roots of country music after Beyoncé’s album dropped- highly recommend! Think you’ll really appreciate it after hearing your thoughts on this topic- the song selection for his alternate universe punchline is perfection!! Big difference between appreciation and appropriation, and I can understand why some feel like the latter applies to Post given the actions you’ve detailed in this commentary. Collaborating with Morgan Wallen is an odd choice, for sure.

[@Marcustrh]

I wouldnt include Action on the pass list. Especially when a members of one of the most influential hip hop groups from the golden era "Son" Bronson behind a Teddy Pendergrass song. GhostFace Killa called out the bitting of his style Action made a career off of. But i will say everything else is spot on. I got alot of catching up to do on this channel. Fat Charlie you got it fam. 10/10

[@jacobmiskomusic]

You’re an incredible creator!

[@Lanooski]

very concise breakdown of how the appropriation cycle works. 👍

[@g0khan6]

The prof sent us

[@professorskye]

love to see it! :)

[@blaquepearlzchocolatediamndz77]

Anytime a singer has a strong, soulful voice, that's how they are going to be pushed. It's not necessarily always a Justin Timberlake situation.

[@FatCharlie215]

except when im specifically talking about Justin Timberlake.

[@Antonio_Ortiz]

6:50: Well said, and something I never truly realized until now. Earned a sub.

[@millennialbiker906]

Jimi Hendricks popped in mind when you asked

[@cookingwithsilence]

I think stepping into a different genre is such a beautiful thing, but only if it's connected to some type of lived experience. You could just tell with Post and he just didn't come to that conclusion from being around Hip Hop as a culture, he came toi the conclusion due to media exposure. And a lot of people couldn't tell because they where right there with him.

[@fsalgado39]

Music should be universal ya'll gate keeping a genre is crazy even if started with rap who's to say i cant diverse my music?

[@benburndred2226]

Black people invented rock and rap and white people use it, we invented the the instruments. Beleive me, there was white rock that took nothing from the blues

[@KJOokami]

Pretty good vid! I do think it's important to note how the music industry itself kinda thrusts this onto a lot of young, aspiring singers. Justin Timberlake was 13 when he got recruited to do R&B inspired pop music with NSYNC. Justin Bieber was 12 when he started uploading covers to KZbin and 13 when he got picked up by Usher, who went on to mold his image as a performer. P!nk was 15 when she started her recording career and has lyrics about how the industry really tried to push her to be something she wasn't (hence her early R&B persona). And there's probably a ton of other examples like that. Not saying it's not important to discuss the responsibility of individuals when it comes to participating in this issue, but I think it's important to give a broader context to how the music industry often uses kids' desire for fame and recognition to push a version of themselves that isn't authentic and leads to this "removing of the costume" of blackness later on in their careers.

[@sbesbesbe]

Regarding Chuck Berry, you left out that he was one of America's greatest song writers (he wrote nearly all of his songs), and he wasn't just a better guitarist, he was an incredibly influential guitarist.

[@10Trillion707]

Not sure why so many people give Eminem a pass. I’ll never understand it. He actually has a tape disrespecting blacks and yall rationalized the bullshit! Eminem even said “I AM THE WORST THING SINCE ELVIS PRESLEY TO DO BLACK MUSIC SO SELFISHLY AND USE IT TO GET MYSELF WEALTHY” selective politics will always baffle me.

[@EldestRoamer]

Just kind of a counter here. Post lived in a streamer house at the beginning of his career (like dudes that play video games). It is bizarre that streamers/youtubers make music sometimes as content. But that's what they did for some content. And although Post wasn't a streamer - he participated. And they worked with FKi 1st who recognized something in Post. It was FKi 1st who CONVINCED Post to quit messing around and really try a career in the rap genre. FKi was already very well known in the rap game by that point (working with Travis Scott, Wiz K, and Travis Porter) and it was he who produced White Iverson. Post uploaded White Iverson to his soundcloud. It blew up. Maybe his heart was never in hip-hop but that's what genre he blew up in. I don't like (most) country music, but if a country producer asked me to do a song and it blew up - I'd probably make country music. I agree Post didn't understand the roots of rap.... But I'd guess MOST rappers these days don't understand the roots of rap; it's no longer a requirement. I mean just look at the Freshman Class freestyles over the last few years and tell me these guys do anything other than scroll insta all day. I like Post. I also like Tyler the Creator. Another person who got big off rap but says he hates being called a rapper; hates rapping, and has went on to create music outside the genre. I'm a hip-hop head and have been for 30 years. Maybe I shouldn't like people who don't really enjoy the hip-hop label. But... all I care more about is the music they make.