When the MC Cuts Someone's Leg Off to Be Evil in Villainess Who Goes Down in History Episode 4 🩸💀

[@AHBrandonReviews]

If she kept her mouth shut after being rude or cutting someone's leg off she's kinda seem evil xD See my full uncut live reactions to the episodes over on Patreon www.patreon.com/BrandonReviews

[@PhotonKingShark77]

She will no longer have a leg up on the opps.she will just have to stay one step ahead.

[@alexandrefernandes1463]

Even the prince had a lot of fun this episode.

[@AlphishCreature]

He looked like he needed some popcorn, so I gave him some. (alas, KZbin won't let me post images in the comments, though maybe it's for the better in the grand scheme of things)

[@actionvids35]

Liz is naive to a fault and that makes her stupidly dense in a sense, although, she seems to be clever enough to realize that what Alice said was constructive criticism, let's see if she is clever enough to overcome her naive denseness.

[@treymiller5736]

I think it’s her being naïve is what made the MC hate her as well. Makes it worse that everyone around her is playing along. Let’s just let a bunch of criminals free and I’m sure everything will be fine!!! That will fix all our problems. Well half of them weren’t even criminals, but you also know that place gets rather violent at times. Mc has been going there for years at this point you can’t just release them and expect everything to just work itself out. 🤷‍♂️ That said the MC seems rather dense herself. 🤷‍♂️

[@nurusds3]

Whoever wrote the Wikipedia for this series was a savage. Because Wiki describe "Liz is a moron who thinks like a child". I agree with you. She's naive, but I think it's a given knowing where she come from, assuming a commoner in this world don't receive education.

[@MrDibara]

Liz comes off to me as a very well intentioned, but ultimatelly thoughtless and naive person. :\ She is not prideful or stubborn to not reflect on her mistakes when someone points them out to her, She IS willing to learn from them and become better. The problem is that *_most of the people surrounding her are just mindless glazers who basically just keep repeating_* "you can do nothing wrong" *_and that doesn't help her grow at all._* Granted, she doesn't let that get over her head or become arrogant or anything, _but she also never stops to think and reavaluate her plans and ideas. EVER._ If Alicia didn't come around and smack her in the face with a dose of reality, Liz would've just kept going with her plan until it all fell apart! *And by that time, it would be too late to rectify anything!* I like the dynamic between Alicia and Liz because I feel that BOTH characters can grow and learn a lot from each other. For Alicia, _well, it's mostly that she sees Liz as this "ideal Heroine" whom she must overcome as her _*_fated rival._* 🤷‍♂ For Liz, she's confronted with someone who can finally tell her the harsh truth to her face, no glazing or sugarcoating, which is actually benefitial for her to learn more and become more mature. There is potential for both of them to develop together! *Assuming those goddamn fanboys don't get in the way constantly.*

[@MrDibara]

@@treymiller5736 _Both Alicia and Liz are pretty dense in different topics and "areas of expertise", not gonna lie._ 😅

[@treymiller5736]

@@MrDibara Alicia seems so very intelligent in several ways. But she then falls flat on her face with “I want to be a villainous” Like huh lol. I understand it part of the plot, but it makes so sense when her actual desires.

[@deandredukes95]

Prince was so focused on her not even listening her speech 😭

[@zam023]

Yeah, Alisha has the prince in her hands, but she has yet to accept it ^_^;;;

[@athrunzala6919]

I think he was just intently observing how she would respond to the villainess

[@actionvids35]

She raises some great points I wanted to preach about as well. I was so absorbed by the plot I swear we need more stories told by the villain/villainess point of view, even tho not much has happened so far, it’s still a breath of fresh air

[@zam023]

I agree. It is like the saying goes; give a man fish and he eats for a day, teach a man how to fish and he can feed himself for the rest of his life. I think that was the point Alisha was trying to make about the Saint's essay.

[@Marveryn]

@@zam023 agreed. free the village mean you got people that been building hatred for the system free to move anywhere. These people are like living in australia. they are sent to area cut off from the rest of the nation and with their children also suffering from the crime. that builds up a layer of hate that will be unleash once you put the wall down.

[@goldenangel158]

Her being rude but was actually talking facts to the main heroin

[@Shigeru0508]

This slowly turns into one of my favourite Otome shows of the year. The MC is wild. Intelligent with her very unique view on what kind of villainess she wants to be. Also, it's the only must watch on Tuesday this season.

[@AlphishCreature]

It does feel like she's basically taking all the cool aesthetic and free-spiritedness villains are loved for, and removing all the actual villainy that makes them reprehensible. Which actually makes for a pretty cool literal anti-heroine. Also, her role makes me think of a court jester, or more specifically the jester's privilege, in that she's supposed to say what others are too afraid/polite to speak out loud. Which reminds me, I don't remember seeing any fictional settings with court jesters fulfilling that role, and I wish there were more characters like that.

[@Protect_all_ljf3forms]

Saint got nothing but yes men around them and the villainess is just being pragmatic. She at least is smart enough to realize she was actually being helped “Her mind is like a field of flowers” and thankfully common sense grows there too.

[@MrDibara]

I think that is Liz's biggest problem/challenge right now: she's just surrounded with yes men. *Those are DENTRIMENTAL to one's growth, because they will never point out your mistakes.* I don't think Liz is a bad or a stupid person. She absolutelly is not prideful or stubborn, at most she's just very determined to keep reaching for her goals of a better world. _But she needs better guidance! And mindless glazers are not that!_

[@Protect_all_ljf3forms]

@@MrDibara thankfully she isnt blind to that fact. Liz is an idealist but not dumb which in itself is refreshing for a a character like her to be.

[@Plasmagon99]

Alicia is more than likely going to end up being a kind but rude anti-hero at the end of the story something similar to Deadpool and the Punisher, but less violent and 4th wall breaky. Also the guy who's eye glowed during the debate, I though at first he had broken out of the plot armor trance but maybe he was set to a new story path like you said. If so it give a similar vibe to parts of Villainess Level 99 where the heroin kept going into a trance to complete elements of the story.

[@zennvirus7980]

It's a matter of perspective, her "villainous" personality. And I must applaud the king's cunning, who chose the best possible person to be the "bad girl" that brings a dose of reality to the airhead heroine. Yes, her manner of delivery still needs some work. But she is now technically the "villainess" she wanted to be.

[@athrunzala6919]

Her head is like a field of flowers - I died

[@TheYdyp]

Well the thing with the guy that had his eyes twinkle, was one that was cursing Alicia the most at the end with hidden anger. So not sure what it was all about but would be surprised if it doesn't show up later and get explained what it was.

[@AHBrandonReviews]

she set the route for him truly hating her is my guess

[@joshthomasmoorenew]

I'm just waiting for next week because i'm predicting, this rudeness loops back around next episode somehow and everyones going to praise her standing her ground on something or something like that.

[@YonatanTheGift]

Alicia ate her up in that debate and left nary a crumb.

[@MrDibara]

And Liz left actually learning better and admitting her own faults, *which is more than I can say for her brainless glazers.* 🤦‍♂

[@YonatanTheGift]

@@MrDibara but that’s the beautiful thing because I feel Alicia is a villainess in line with myself. Simply being a contrarian within reason to what others view as ideal can be viewed as one being a villain but at the same time Alicia positions herself and frames it so perfectly that her constructive(meant to be destructive) criticism actually builds a stronger heroine than I’m certain she’s anticipating. I’m excited to see how this builds up and equally excited to see how it ends.

[@MrDibara]

@@YonatanTheGift And I am totally in favor of that development! 😊 In many ways, I think both Alicia and Liz can grow and learn a lot by interacting together, even if (or SPECIALLY if) they are not on the same page. Alicia keeps getting motivated to constantly outperform Liz and one-up her, which to her is specially true when confronting the the heroine with her own flaws. Liz can finally interact with someone who is not a yes man and will not only tell her the harsh truth, but do so in an eloquent, argumentative way where she can see where "the villainess" is coming from and where was Liz doing wrong. Something she desperately needs to mature, *but won't get with those mindless glazers surrounding her.* I'm looking forward to more interactions between them and how they will shape both characters in the future! _But for now, we're probably gonna have to deal with some over-the-top neurotic fanboys out to get "revenge for the Saintess"._ 🤦‍♂

[@sarahbaker1176]

@@MrDibara spoilers.... . . . . . . . . . . . Don't blame the entourage. They literally can't help themselves. The "saintess" accidentally has them under mind control. I loved the subtle hint they showed towards it: when she instructed the Villainess to apologise for being rude, they had her voice echo to show there was magic in the command that Alicia shrugged off.

[@mrgonzalez8838]

I kinda feel like her being rude is teaching others proper manners. Like heck , I don’t know you, why are you grabbing my hair? Why are you acting like we are so close? I don’t you. You want ME to apologize? Nah, I am not the one invading someone else’s personal space.

[@user-sn1hi7my7x]

To be honest, her villainess acting is more speaking the truth of the situation. Our main heroine is very unrealistic and thinks the world is Sunshines and Butterfly's when the real world doesn't work like that. Alicia is a more realistic than evil.

[@MetaKnight964]

Magic isn't exactly realistic.

[@user-sn1hi7my7x]

@@MetaKnight964 I hope that’s sarcasm

[@nisukenakasaki8968]

Finally at last, Alicia did one villainessy thing: talking in a rude way to some peoples 🤣 She is slowly build her own followers/retainers like with Jill & Rebecca in this episode 😌 Duke & our MC kabedon moment in the library was wonderful 😂 With her constructive criticism about Liz' thesis, it will surely make her a more realistic and mature person 🤔

[@Kharaen]

One values meritocracy, and the other values equity.

[@athrunzala6919]

equality of outcome vs equality of opportunity

[@sophisticated-realm]

THIS IS FAX ALICIA IS BEING AYANAKOJI VIBES

[@jdoggivjc]

This week in our MC's chunni villainy play... what I really appreciate this show is the prince absolutely understands what Alicia is doing, and while the heroine isn't quite bright enough to understand Alicia is setting the table for her, after debate she understands that she's pointing out her shortcomings and not just tearing her down like all of her hanger-ons are convinced she's doing.

[@didsva]

Lovely episode which made me love Alicia even more. I like how she acted at school, and she was right to be “rude” to those girls as they did not know about personal space. So if anything they have a bigger reason to say sorry than her. Also that dialogue between Alicia and the heroin was like a discussion between a naive optimistic and a realist. As what Alicia said makes so much more sense. And I really love how she point out the flaws out just saying nice things for virtue signals. So now I can respect Alicia more. Also funny how she consider a villainess to basically be a strong progressive woman. And how she ended up saving another person from this village and making them work for her. As well as making sure that Gill could leave this village to get a more proper education as her servant

[@galonski64]

Pretty much the downside is the Heroin belive they would see things from her POV. though if that wall were to come down today, a lot of people would be hurt or more sadly.

[@xlodvig]

I'm so evil I'll go and save the world and those heroes can kiss my ass! - kinda vibe I get from this heroine.

[@MrDibara]

That's some Dr Doom kind of thing, saving the world just to shove it in the hero's face that he/she did a better job than the hero. 🤣

[@AlphishCreature]

@@MrDibara That reminds me of a bit of otome games history, which included Angelique. That game featured Rosalia de Catargena as the female antagonist, and she competed with titular Angelique (and player character) for the position of a queen. Both were given the same mission and the one to complete it quicker would become the queen. If Angelique followed the romance route, she would fail to become the queen, but I presume in the grand scheme of things Rosalia would serve the country just as well as Angelique - basically, her shoving it in the heroine's face that she can do a better job is the whole point of examination to choose the best queen possible. Perhaps the ideal Alicia strives to be is of competence, realism and ruthless efficiency that someone like Rosalia would represent (note: I don't know how much of these traits Rosalia had), rather than someone being a jerk, let alone actually doing heinous things? But of course, people around her hear the word "villainess" without any otome games history context and her being somewhat oblivious to what actual villainy is. It's an interesting mix, for sure. ^^'

[@guala4964]

Yup I saw that blink in those eyes and basically either he broke or it activavated mindcontrol we dont know yet if it was the heroine/the Otome world itself OR even some random outsider or it goes route noone expects and it isnt form of mind control but some vision spell BUT i am not betting on the last one

[@sussygussy7858]

Best episode so far, little bit of everything to chew on. It's also clear her definition of a 'villainess' has everything to do with competing with the heroine rather than actually being a piece of shit

[@yknr3771]

ye. Alicia is less a villainess and more an aggressive rival. your comment helped me find the words to describe their relationship, so thanks!

[@MrDibara]

When homegirl took the "antagonist" part of the villainess trope to the utmost extreme. 🤣 Her greatest act of villainy is being the greatest rival of the heroine, regardless in _what_ the "competition" is about.

[@athrunzala6919]

The heroine was arguing for equality of outcome while the villainess argued for equality of opportunity

[@randomtrainerx.3424]

So far the only time Alicia acts like a proper villainess is whenever she talks to the saintess.

[@Unknown27-c6b]

Cut off leg . Need to watch it now.

[@Unknown27-c6b]

I should have watched 2 seconds more she cut off leg to save 😅

[@nyakimen]

I already liked the show, but now that she has a purpose it makes it so much better.

[@sophisticated-realm]

Alicia Is Gonna be Ayanakoji Vibes Now 😭😭😭😭 Like talking about a being "Equality"

[@dylangerber5163]

Can that even be considered rude? If someone I didn’t know came up to me and started touching my hair Id probably tell them they’re being to friendly too 😂

[@brianhall23]

I loved this episode.

[@phyrexian_dude4645]

After following the manga for a while, ill say that from now on MC giving a reality check to the heroine are *chef kiss* glorious. However, the NPCs liking her boots will get more unhinged the more based MC gets.

[@kylef900]

My money is on her getting exiled..... as a cover story so she can work as an operative in a foreign kingdom.

[@zam023]

I hope Alisha understand that she is making enemies with powerful families and is prepared to face the outcome in the future. On the bright side, the prince is already on her side I am 100% certain.

[@MrDibara]

I suppose I see what you mean. Indeed, Alicia refusing to apologize for being rude to Liz's new friends is probably the closest to an "evil villainess" act that she's performed yet, it definitelly was petty enough, _but I just don't think it was her BIG villainess moment._ Nah, I think the most _villainessy_ thing that Alicia (the Villainess) did was confront Liz (the Heroine) on the naivery and lack of thought of the latter's plan for equality on society. Liz in a way represents what a lot of us would aspire to do, fight for a more equal and just society. But the thing is, just like otome heroines, neither Liz nor us usually think on the *hows* to make that reality come true, or about as close to come true as possible. THAT's what Alicia confronts Liz about and it's a very good adversarial obstacle. As the villainess, she presents the heroine with a challenge she must overcome, the flaws and gaps in the heroine's well intentioned plans, which is a good opportunity for Liz to learn and grow. I personally believe that THAT is as vital a role for the villain archetype as any other! Aside from opposing the hero, the villain should also present a reason for the hero to push forward, just like Darth Vader pretty much humbled Luke Skywalker during "The Empire Strikes Back", demonstrating how he wasn't ready, which lead to him becoming wiser, calmer, more composed and consequently more powerful during "Return of the Jedi". The villain helped the hero grow despite opposing them, and that's what I see Alicia doing with Liz here. And it's why I loved this Episode so much! ☺

[@sorabowden5812]

I loved the name of this episode, it really was a monster attacking someone unprepared, she absolutely trounced the heroine in her logic. The Alicia is finally becoming a villainess. As for what happened during the tea party I wonder if another thing besides plot armor, I wonder if maybe the heroine has a sort of magic effect on others that make them blindly follow her, like how a cult follows a false god without question. Then when the one person has that effect, maybe it was broken off of him for a second. Just a guess but still. But overall this episode Alicia finally is getting somewhere, I’m proud and can’t wait for next week.

[@alexandrefernandes1463]

I like the fact that in this series the "villainess" is not a "popular girl"/"queen bee" type, manipulating people against the heroine.

[@PrecureJunkie]

I bet that's what's going on, too. It was explained that Liz has an obscene amount of mana. She's probably got a passive charm skill that she doesn't even know she has that makes those around her follow her blindly. The prince and Alicia both probably have enough mana that it doesn't affect them (I include the prince there because he's obviously into Alicia and not Liz, when everyone else is totally captivated by Liz). Those on the borderline with how much mana they have can probably shake it off once they realize it's happening. The flashy eyes happened right after Alicia pointed out "this thing right here is so obviously dumb, how come nobody pointed it out to you?" and the person it happened to was probably someone who knew that was dumb and the comment suddenly made him realize "wait, why *didn't* I point that out?" And he's probably borderline got enough mana to resist if he realizes it, so he snapped out of it. The interesting thing, I think Liz actually got convinced. The look on her face said she realized the issue once it was explained. Which means the king was right on target bringing Alicia in there. Liz is a fundamentally good person, she just needs someone with enough mana to resist her charm that can point out her flaws and help her improve them.

[@Marveryn]

@@PrecureJunkie was there not an anime earlier this year that also had a hero that a charm ability around those around her. Trying to remember which anime it was with the MC also being effect but cause they had already surmise the ability they were able to negate it effects. It was how they found about it.

[@PrecureJunkie]

@@Marveryn villainess level 99 maybe?

[@Marveryn]

@@PrecureJunkie yeath that maybe what am thinking about. Cause they are the hero the people around them fall out of their way to help them and do stuff for them.

[@SavvisGeo]

I like the approach they took in this episode in her role in the academy. 4:30 She literally supports meritocracy in society. There is nothing villaineous in this. Also that moment she disappeared from kid's pov had me laughing after i came out of my confusion.

[@MrDibara]

The closest thing to "villainess" in that was simply "opposing the main heroine", which is not necessarily a villain-only aspect, it can also appear in antagonists (who aren't all villains, sometimes) and just rival characters.

[@Sandhammer]

F blonde hair guy

[@yknr3771]

don't worry, he gets worse.

[@MrDibara]

@@yknr3771 *And I'm not surprised in the least.* =__= The second his expression went from _"Alicia..._ 😟" to a deranged *_"(ALICIA WILLIAMS...!!!_* 🤬 *_)"_* is when you should now he's a lost cause. Typical hot-headed, overly sensitive fanboy, who thinks anybody opposing his idol is the *GREATEST SIN EVER AND MUST BE PUNISHED* type shit. ¬¬ I'll bet not even Liz could make him stop, he'll just rationalizt in his own dumbass head that "she's too good and forgiving, which is why I need to stop eViL for her". _(sorry, paraphrasing here, I actually don't understand what goes through the head of these types)_

[@azrolnajmi1039]

So the saint is communist advocates and the villainess is capitalist hardcore😂

[@RimuruSama2006]

I think i confused to this story. I just let it end the season first before i watch it to maybe understand more of tthis story.

[@nurusds3]

Watch the episode and enter a discussion. That way you can perhaps find what points you missed each episode. If you watch 12 in one sitting, you'll highly missed even more points.