When the Moors Ruled in Spain (3 of 11)

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@mst3k4evur
@mst3k4evur 14 жыл бұрын
@Seiku I see your point but the same could be said of the Moors. One rebelled around the time of the battle of Tours and signed an alliance with Duke Odo of Aquitaine, a Visigoth. Later, several Moorish leaders rebelled and invited Charlemagne, king of the Franks, to invade Spain. Neither attempt went well, but it still knocks holes in the idea of Moors as liberators. Also, couldn't it be that many Spaniards just joined the Moors out of fear?
@Thutmosis7
@Thutmosis7 14 жыл бұрын
Here is another myth. Berber tribe? Come on 9 out of 10 of the men who crossed and colonist spain were black african people. Stop giving these modern day northern africans who goes by the name berber credit. The people who conquered and ruled most of the 780 yrs in spain were black africans that originated in sudan, maurintania, morroco,mali western sahara, and senegal. These were the moorish people. Not modern day moroccans.
@MrOptimistic121
@MrOptimistic121 13 жыл бұрын
Islam is the best every where And I am proud that i am Muslim
@MrBrachiatingApe
@MrBrachiatingApe 13 жыл бұрын
@lar5220 Also: the Gizeh plateau and Great Pyramids are in N. Africa. Most perfectly engineered buildings in the world; definitely not Greek or Roman.
@TonyLoco23
@TonyLoco23 14 жыл бұрын
@hamahmoud76 The sources are: -Abd'l Latif -Al-Qifti -Bar-Hebraeus -Al-Maqrizi -Ibn Khaldun Parts of the Library were destroyed in succesive periods, but Octavian (Octafyos) played no role in this at all, at any rate that would have been 700 years before, not 100.
@MrBrachiatingApe
@MrBrachiatingApe 13 жыл бұрын
@lar5220 Yeah, it's not just the size that makes the Giza pyramid complex so impressive, though. If you look at the quality of the surveying, the incredibly precise tolerances, and so forth, it gets not just impressive but staggering. As in, modern engineers, architects and builders would find it very, very difficult--perhaps impossible--to build the two larger pyramids.
@MrBrachiatingApe
@MrBrachiatingApe 13 жыл бұрын
@aziz79 Romans hired a lot of mercenaries, many of whom were strong and had no fear (cf. German mercenaries.) Their greatest conquests, however, were with Roman and Italian armies.
@JayHay63
@JayHay63 12 жыл бұрын
@cccrunner1009 don't be racist -.- the Germans were ruling the Spanish with tyranny. The moors went to Spain to save them from it for real. When they went there they fell in love with the "blessed land" because of all the greenery and the atmosphere unlike the barren place they had come from, that's why they stayed, THIS is the true history and no matter how you try, YOU CAN'T CHANGE IT
@Thutmosis7
@Thutmosis7 13 жыл бұрын
@aziz79 If you say so. The bible talk about the egyptian being scattered and foreign people ruling their land. The people mostly in egypt today, most of them are not related to ancient egyptians.
@MrBrachiatingApe
@MrBrachiatingApe 13 жыл бұрын
@lar5220 Macrinus, was Roman Emperor from 217 to 218. Macrinus was of "Moorish" (perhaps Berber).... Philip, who received the nickname "the Arab" because his family hailed from the Roman province of Arabia, ...Many historians agree that he was of Arab descent ... Phoenicians spoke the Phoenician language...belongs to the group of Canaanite languages in the Semitic language family...shown to share "overwhelming" genetic similarities with the Lebanese. Wrong and wrong. 3 minutes in Wikipedia.
@LBNANY
@LBNANY 14 жыл бұрын
Spain Owned...Flawless Victory!
@chessmambo
@chessmambo 12 жыл бұрын
wheres the video??
@hamahmoud76
@hamahmoud76 14 жыл бұрын
@TonyLoco23 caliph omar did not say that what is your source of information and library at Alexandria destroyed by octafyos during the war between octafyos and (antonio-clyopatra) more than 100 year befor the arrival of Amer bin El ass with his army
@LBNANY
@LBNANY 15 жыл бұрын
Spain Got ROCKED!
@ahmenpistachio
@ahmenpistachio 13 жыл бұрын
@mrtundra45 No proof. Moors in Spain were Spainards first. Local identity was way more important. Moors were no more Arabs than Spainards were Polish. Being a muslim does not make you an Arab.
@aziz79
@aziz79 13 жыл бұрын
@lar5220 they don't build statues because it's not allowed in islam to portret someone . and you talk about hiring people .....who hired the Imazighen "Berbers"( as Europeans call them ) to fight with them . it were the Romans.they were hired as mercenaries because they were strong and had no fear . otherwise the Romans didn't achieved what they had. there were also a couple Imazighen who were Roman kings later But the Europeans always change the true history because they know where their
@baref1959
@baref1959 11 жыл бұрын
only 700 years old... give me a break.
@forcadelta5
@forcadelta5 11 жыл бұрын
Califórnia was Mexican territory as Andaluzia was moor so what`s the difference.
@MrBrachiatingApe
@MrBrachiatingApe 13 жыл бұрын
@lar5220 The Great Pyramid would probably be beyond modern civilizations capacity to create, actually. It is the most accurately aligned and surveyed building ever built. So, no, their engineering was not shit compared to Greeks and Romans--the G's and R's were impressive no doubt (and my personal taste is mostly for European art and architecture, if that matters) but for sheer staggering skill and power, the ancient megalithic sites beat anything else. Gizeh, Baalbek, Tihuanaco, etc.
@Jorge_Humberto10
@Jorge_Humberto10 15 жыл бұрын
This woman then goes onto say that the Arabs were not used to having such a fertile land, they were used to the barren terrain from their home land. If you encounter such a paradise, wouldn't you want to take it from whom ever owns it, no matter if you have to do it by force?. Then she goes on to say that the new society was simply made up of newly converted North African tribes. How can the Visigoths welcome such a barbaric life style?.
@LBNANY
@LBNANY 15 жыл бұрын
LOL. 'm just messing with those who would be overly insulted by that comment. This series is not entirely correct either. And tends to fall upon the western dilusion of the Greek answer to the knowledge in the east. For example...Pethogoras, who may actually have been a Phoenician(Lebanon) borrowed the idea that had been around since over 2500 B.C. in what today is called Iraq, Egypt, or even India.
@Abusarah89
@Abusarah89 10 жыл бұрын
You all arguing about the colour and the race of people who were ruling spain, but what you can't argue about or deny is that islam and and muslims who were ruling spain for all 8 centuries and Muslims, Christians and Jews were at peace all these centuries , islam beautiful teachings that sent to all humanity not to the arabs alone i am an arab btw. Read the Quran..
@beckysella6450
@beckysella6450 9 жыл бұрын
I read the Quran and it is full of hate, revenge and killing.
@Jorge_Humberto10
@Jorge_Humberto10 15 жыл бұрын
This is one of the most backwards and senseless documentaries I've ever see. This woman says that the Visigoths: "willingly handed over their land", and, "welcomed their visitors with open arms". Where in history do you find a people so willing to be conquered?. Even Native Americans, with their lack of resources fought 'till death to protect their lands from the Europeans.
@lar5220
@lar5220 13 жыл бұрын
Egypt stuff is cool looking because of it's big size age they did everything on a big scale but it still was primitive engineering compared to Greek Roman stuff Megalith structures engineering are all over Europe basically a pyramid is just a huge megalith structure the same technology used to make stone henge in the uk and temples in malta which are older was what egyptians used to make there structures they just did it bigger then any one else but same knowledge was used
@forcadelta5
@forcadelta5 11 жыл бұрын
The moors were and are from north Africa.
@selfsenter
@selfsenter 15 жыл бұрын
plus a ton of other inventions and luxuries the west has never heard of. When the british ruled over india and colonised half the world they never improved the infrastructure in this way. Which explains why over 70% of the spanish people converted to islam during that time.
@chicha1964
@chicha1964 15 жыл бұрын
dangler0603, you are right! ONLY Visigoths were not "native" to the land . . . they were invaders themselves with a bad record in the neighberhood . . .
@boss180888
@boss180888 12 жыл бұрын
i seriously sugest you stop searching for topics you don't want to know about.
@Jorge_Humberto10
@Jorge_Humberto10 15 жыл бұрын
The Islam that was sophisticated with Greek borrowed teachings, did not arrive in Al Andalus until much later, the initial conquest was done by barbaric North African tribes. Therefore this conquest was done by force and had a as a central intent to take the fertile land of Iberia. Not like they make it sounds here, to bring about a new civilized society.
@MrMamasou
@MrMamasou 13 жыл бұрын
PEOPLE WHO R COMMENTING WITHOUT KNOWING A THING ... BEFORE YOU COMMENT READ SOME BOOKS ABOUT ISLAM AND THE SCIENCES AND INVENTIONS THE EXACT SCIENCES (SABRA,ABDELHAMID I.) THE LIFE SCIENCES (HAMARNEH, SAMI K.) ART & ARCHITECTURE ARCHITECTURE AND ART BY OLEG GRABER THE GOLDEN AGE OF ARAB MUSIC BY ALFARUQI, LOIS IBSEN
@PoliticalAbstract
@PoliticalAbstract 13 жыл бұрын
@AC1717171717 Wow, so much hatre from your comment, it's so disgusting. People get rid of that hatre.
@lar5220
@lar5220 13 жыл бұрын
@MrBrachiatingApe Egyptian engineer was shit compared to Greek roman stuff Egyptian engineering is impressive for it's age more then anything else In 3000 years nothing changed
@forcadelta5
@forcadelta5 11 жыл бұрын
Sorry but Andaluzia is a moor state.
@aziz79
@aziz79 13 жыл бұрын
@lar5220 knowledge about a lot of things came from , but the europeans always change the history so you can keep on denying the truth but you can't change it .
@aziz79
@aziz79 13 жыл бұрын
@lar5220 that's not true . have you ever been in morocco or another country ?? the europes could't build something like that because they have another way to build buildings. and cut of nuts ? wtf are you talking about I don't know why you visit this channel because you just talk bs. first get some knowledge than come and talk about the subject.
@aauthorj
@aauthorj 15 жыл бұрын
Tell the Mr. DahbiArb to kiss my black ass. No offense.
@mst3k4evur
@mst3k4evur 14 жыл бұрын
OK, the Moors as liberators is rediculous. The Visigoths didn't welcome them and the Moors didn't gentley take over Spain. The invasion of Frankland (France) just a few years later they raped, pillaged, burned and took slaves. According the written records left by Moorish and Frankish soldiers the Moorish army acted like other medieval/ancient armies in their brutality. Don't get me wrong, I'm not beating up on the Moors, but to glorify them afterward is historical revisionism, not fact.
@MrMamasou
@MrMamasou 13 жыл бұрын
@LordoftheHornets THERE IS PLENTY OF ENGLISH TRANSLATED QURANS PLEASE DONT COMMENT B4 YOU DO UR REASEARCH PPL LIKE U R RUINING THE WORLD
@jimianderson809
@jimianderson809 7 жыл бұрын
Lie, the Greeks learned from the Arabs and the Arabs from Africa. nice story but it's a Lie the Greeks are not the inventors if they were you would be telling us this story from Greece.
@lar5220
@lar5220 13 жыл бұрын
And scale to
@baref1959
@baref1959 11 жыл бұрын
bs, omg they have water, we dont have water, can we have their water...
@lar5220
@lar5220 13 жыл бұрын
@aziz79 roman emperors were all roman Italian they may have been born in other places but they were just Romans who's families were Italians that had migrates to other parts of the empire of at the time was part of Rome it self for hundreds of years look at there statues they are all Italian looking people Hahaha All the greatest ruins are in Europe there is shit in north Africa except what romans and Greeks made there Carthage were Phoenicians from Greece originally 2
@sesostres
@sesostres 12 жыл бұрын
ALL YOU NEED TO DO IS DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH TO SUPPORT YOUR ERRONEOUS PERSPECTIVE OF AFRICAN/MUSLIM INFLUENCE IN EUROPE.
@forcadelta5
@forcadelta5 11 жыл бұрын
And still rule...
@MrWilliejay1
@MrWilliejay1 11 жыл бұрын
lol
@MrWilliejay1
@MrWilliejay1 11 жыл бұрын
aka north amexem
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