WHEN WE WERE YOUNG WAS A DISASTER.

[@czmisfitsfan]

I remember being in a Hot Topic in 2004 in NJ and some older lady was asking for help finding her grandson's band's album. She proudly said it was their major label debut and then said it was MCR. Turned out it was Frank's grandmother. She was so proud of the band.

[@lavenderllamamusic]

that's so sweet!

[@danorott]

omg, that's so cool!

[@doesnotFempute]

🥺🥺

[@storytellingsnek5255]

Sweetest thing ever omg

[@flamcheeseful]

Honeslty this is like the perfect internet comment. And new Jersey is a fucking ridiculous place.

[@douglasboylan3477]

As a roadie myself, that level of sustained wind with that level of gusts is a serious danger to an outdoor festival

[@HimothyBurton]

No fucking shit???

[@JustJoshLTRB]

For real. I remember being out on a run and seeing the devastation that was Indiana state Fair 2011.

[@fatjeff8083]

Yep, just ask Cheap Trick

[@doubleplusdanny]

SoundSet 2012 in Minneapolis. Tornado came through and stages were swaying. Absolute bedlam.

[@GonzoCiosain]

Thank you. Roadies and stagehands understand that stage collapses are no fucking joke.

[@futuristic.handgun]

I've met Frank Iero from MCR three different times and I gotta say, he's one of the most hard working, humble, down to earth, and kind dudes I've ever met in my life. He makes sure every last fan gets a moment of his time. Like he really talks to every single person and gives them his undivided attention, no matter how long it takes him. Everybody gets an autograph or a picture. Also, like I said he's so humble and hard working. The second time I met him I was the first person to approach him and he was super sweet and was like hey, let me finish helping the guys load our gear up in the van and then we can chat for awhile. Then the last time I met him he was behind the merch table, selling his own merch. Both of those times were when I saw two of his side bands and after The Black Parade had come out. So he was this huge star that still loaded up his own gear and sold his own merch. He also was in the crowd watching the other bands play, supporting them because he is just as much of a fan. He's such a wonderful dude. I know they say never meet your heroes, but I'm thankful that I met one of mine. He did not disappoint at all. ❣️

[@rayanna7188]

That's so sweet! Frank does seem like a down-to-earth guy

[@ML-tr1hz]

I love Frank

[@futuristic.handgun]

@@rayanna7188 He really is! He never has let fame or money change him at all. 🥰

[@Armando.Sepulveda]

Would blink have saved it from being a disaster

[@dudewhy6953]

I think it’s cool that a few of the bands decided to stick around and throw some small shows for people, or do meet and greets and hang out. It shows that, for quite a few of these guys, their fans mean a lot to them. Props to the organizers for taking everyone’s safety into consideration as well. While it does suck that the day got cancelled, at least a refund is actually taking place. Fyrefest was an actual dumpster fire, this was integrity. You don’t see a lot of that. Great video Finn!

[@ctf_ichigo]

yea like senses fail and a couple other bands did meet and greets and then they played a show completely for free at a nearby vegas venue

[@8bitesquivel349]

All American Rejects were the MVPs that weekend.

[@Tonyreese99]

Yeah cool, Hawthorne heights played at the strat and couldn't hear a damn word he was saying. I'm just bummed that it was canceled looked like a great time on Sunday.

[@radicaled8447]

Yup I was pretty salty but trying to find a “secret show” nick and Nora’s infinite playlist style then seeing knocked loose a bmth in a casino was dope

[@superlink235]

Someone got hurt in the Knocked Loose pit during Counting Worms, and they immediately stopped the show and Brian said "someone needs help". The crowd helped and escorted them to the medical tent. No Astro world, warped tour kids have good mosh etiquette.

[@hrotha]

I'm surprised there was a mosh pit, I lost all interest in mosh pits at around 25 and by 30 I would stand in the back and stare at them kids in the pit disapprovingly (and also I would be too tired to even approach a pit)

[@jamesbryant8087]

@@hrotha I'm getting to that age now. Except i LOVE watching a good pit l.

[@jessem.5867]

Expect during BMTH where many people fell and got trampled. Security eventually gave up trying to enforcing safety.

[@superlink235]

@@jessem.5867 Is that true? I haven't seen anything. I would like to see some sort of link to an article or video, or even a tweet ect. Thank you

[@vladtheinhaler8940]

I saw Knocked Loose with Gojira in Asheville earlier this year, it was in a seated theater so there was no moshpit. Being 37, I didn't mind that at all, I grew out of that in my late 20's.

[@QuincyKane]

That was really cool how the bands handled the cancelled show with meet & greets and house shows.

[@rayanna7188]

Yeah, it shows that they really love their fans

[@xjaawgex]

and there’s BMTH who didn’t do a free show 😂

[@vinnregi4882]

@@xjaawgex they had people pay a ticket or just show the cancelled show tickets?

[@xjaawgex]

@@vinnregi4882 nah they basically added another date to their tour and charged people again to see them

[@Nacnud92]

@@xjaawgex Because they played a show in a casino and probably had to pay to “rent” the venue for the night, unexpected and last minute.

[@ryan_is_here_now]

It was weird seeing so many people saying yes I told you so! When the first day was canceled it’s like it was canceled because there was a really bad windstorm and it was for the safety of everyone. Imagine if they went on that day and people got seriously injured. People spent months saying it’s gonna be so unsafe but when they literally put everyone’s safety first they were mad

[@johnnydropkick]

Yeah you hit it on the head. People fake crying about Astroworld’s issues and calling for more safety at venues then yell when a festival is cancelled because of safety issues. Make it make sense.

[@alanacragin4932]

I was born and raised in SoCal with the annual “Santa Ana winds”, but I lived in Vegas for 5 years (just moved back to SoCal last year) and the desert winds are no joke! When the winds in Vegas kick up, they are strong and constant with extreme gusts that kick up ridiculous amounts of sand and dirt and rocks and they make the Santa Ana’s look like a gentle breeze. I got caught in a freak wind storm that quickly became a sand storm while driving in Vegas. It tipped over the big rig in front of me and my car was so sand blasted that every window and the front & back windshields had to be replaced and they had to repaint my entire car. If one more thing had to be replaced due to wind damage, the insurance company would have considered my car a total loss.

[@_gorezone_]

The wife of a former co-worker was actually injured at the Indiana stage collapse. She lost almost half of her brain but is still alive, though only barely more functional than a vegetable. Suuuuuper sad. Definitely smart not to tempt fate when it comes to high winds.

[@patronsaintofswitchbladefi2944]

Long live My Chemical Romance 🖤. I got to take my 16yr old daughter to see the boys here in Florida and they rocked it. I met Gerard and Mikey Waaaayyyy back in '04 on the 3 Cheers tour when I worked at the Masquerade in Ybor city. I got to work early ,watched soundcheck, headed backstage,& ended up talking comic books and punk rock with the Way brothers for 10'ish minutes. My daughter saw MCR 4 times in my wife's belly and has been raised an MCR fan. It was my 9th MCR show overall. I so hope we get a repeat of When we were young.

[@layne05]

Your username is awesome

[@patronsaintofswitchbladefi2944]

@@layne05 Thank you ♥️. You're the first to notice it.

[@layne05]

@@patronsaintofswitchbladefi2944 You're welcome

[@patronsaintofswitchbladefi2944]

@@layne05 Bullets is just so raw it's amazing. Yeah was already a big fan when I met Mikey and Gerard but after meeting them I became a superfan. I've always been heavy into comic's and even have a Silver Surfer sleeve on my right arm. Id say Revenge is probably my favorite as it really helped me a lot after OIF and getting back to being myself. I worked at Masquerade for just about 3yrs & met quite a few "rock stars" and was not overly impressed with most & their dismissive way's with their fans. Right after the Revenge tour show I was sitting by the very back doors of Masquerade making sure no one came inside who wasn't supposed to when 2 very young fan's maybe 13yrs old walked up to Gerard after he'd already signed a lot of stuff and he really wanted to get on the bus. Gerard not only turned around and engaged with the kids but he asked them to walk him to the bus and keep him company. Just really sweet dude's.

[@patronsaintofswitchbladefi2944]

@@layne05 & I LOVE Sandman ‼️ Really dig the show also ♥️.

[@austins.7476]

There was zero problems with the time between bands. Literally every band played its top hits which was amazing. Definitely wish it was a bigger venue but overall it was a great time

[@sharkbait5402]

Agreed not sure why people felt is was a big issue. I went to the oct 29th show and it was soooooo epic. We had fun getting hammered and singing all the classics while stage crawling. As a 31 y/o with horrible knees, it wasnt that bad to walk.

[@Bassmanhill84]

I live in Vegas and drive as my job. The 2nd day was packed and went off without a problem.

[@alexeatsit]

Lol Ty, exactly what I came to find out

[@JawncoreIL]

Oh yeah 2nd day was fine I heard. Congested was the biggest critique I heard, but hey, what do you expect from a fest

[@michaelpatterson1525]

I saw a few of the bands after winds 😆

[@Enders1315]

That's what I remember seeing.

[@gabevillarrealedits]

This was the best scam I ever went to. I’m 27 and felt 72 by the time MCR went on, but it was a hell of a time.

[@Nollieflipp]

As a Vegas local who couldn’t afford going to WWWY fest, I was pretty stoked that it got canceled cuz most bands ended up playing free shows across the city at small venues. It made it more intimate with the big bands

[@peanutbutterisfu]

Sucks for the smaller bands that really count on the merch money. Sure they probably got a check when they signed a contract to play the show and the venue might pay them some kinda guarantee money on top but likely will have to wait for that money from the insurance company if they even get paid the smaller bands are the ones that get screwed the most. I use to be in bands so I just feel bad for the small bands I know how hard it is to make money and how bad venues/promoters treat small bands they always have an excuse to try and not pay. I remember playing this one venue my band sold all the presale tickets plus we had people pay at the door, all my band members spent atleast 75 bucks each drinking, at-least 50 people that came to see us were there drinking for a few hours then at the end of the night the club owner tells us the other 4 bands were all under 21 and they didn’t sell many tickets so we can’t pay you guys so I said This was the 4th time we played ur venue and sold all presale tickets and didn’t get paid so we no longer will play here again he said next time you can keep all ticket money. When it came time for the album release party we set up a show at a different venue it was the best scene kinda venue in town and 2 months before the show that venue got sold so we agreed to play the venue that doesn’t like to pay us because they were really trying to get us to do the show there anyway they promised to give us all ticket money, give us a really good day where there are other things going on in the area so foot traffic would be great. I didn’t want to do it but the band members talked me into it. So we got all the bands set up had artwork and flyers made up, went on the radio to promote the show then 2-3 weeks before the show the venue canceled our show because a big band I think 5 finger death punch needed a venue because they were booked at the same venue we were previously and they didn’t find out it was sold till then and so they gave that night to them. I talked to the band told them what was going on and they agreed to take Friday night so we could still do Saturday but the venue wouldn’t do it because there was a festival on Saturday and they wanted the bigger band to benifit from the other festival. I told the venue that nobody is coming to see 5fdp because those fans will be at the festival up the street but people that like our music will not be there because they are 2 different fan groups but they wouldn’t do it they completely screwed us again. I heard from the sound guy that only 20 people came to that show so the club lost a ton of money because the band wouldn’t unload their gear until they were paid in full for the show so the venue lost thousands of dollars. The sound guy also said that there was a big line at the door but they all left when they found out we weren’t playing. It was a small venue only holds about 250 people but we had it sold out so a good 5,000 bucks in ticket money, the other 4 bands were all over 21 so everyone would have been drinking so they would have made a good 10,000 profit after everyone was paid but they lost a good 10,000 bucks paying that band to play for 20 people.

[@germangonzales2008]

@@peanutbutterisfu very good story, gotany more? yo should narrate these and put them on youtube

[@ashleybrown4754]

Living in Reno myself I can attest that the wind in Nevada is no joke. Saturday must have really blown.

[@luke_cohen1]

I live in California but have visited Nevada (Reno and Vegas) multiple times throughout the years (motocross family) along with the Mojave desert, Phoenix, and San Bernadino County (an area famous for the Santa Ana winds). The wind out in the desert is no joke and they made the right call canceling Day One. It can get pretty dicey real fast in that part of the country.

[@shuruff904]

I see what u did there

[@bbrittanyy1]

Pun intended ?

[@Tonyreese99]

Really windy a chair from one of the resorts almost hit me and my wife!

[@striffleric]

When it was announced it looked to me like a Warped Tour, Bamboozle, etc with a great lineup. I attended on Sunday and it was exactly that. I can only assume the negative reactions to the announcement were from young people who had never been to anything like it.

[@Astrlfire]

eh, I was originally Apprehensive to it because Live Nation announced this festival like exactly 2 months after Astroworld 2021happened, so it originally felt like just a ploy for live nation to scrounge up money for the Inevitable Lawsuit. I'm glad that it actually went Semi-Decently from what it looks like though

[@Tesssasasasaaasa]

@@Astrlfire Sunday was fun!

[@nikolas6898]

Hi Eric! 😊

[@TooSixx]

Warped Tour was less than $100 and you didn’t have to travel and get a hotel in Vegas…

[@antithoughtpolice7497]

Or people who didn't trust big festivals after: Travis Scott AND how many sexual predators came out of Warped Tour... It got a bad rep for a reason

[@jeremyobriant7266]

When things go wrong, opportunities arise. On a side note, I saw Bring Me The Horizon with Thrice and Fever 333 at Southside Ballroom in Dallas (a relatively small place) and it was killer. I'll take an "intimate" gig over a festival or "arena"-type show any day.

[@jynxycats]

Feels crazy that I saw Parkway Drive in what is essentially a dive bar back in like 2015. Now they're doing insane festivals non-stop. The big crowd stuff kills it for me, it's more of a hassle than it needs to be.

[@xsmashtheinternetx9561]

Wife and I went to the Sunday fest and we had 0 problems we saw 15 out 16 bands on our list but we got to see bright eyes, paramore and Avril which weren’t in our list but we got stuck at black stage during BMTH and didn’t want to leave so we can be upfront for MCR. We had an amazing time 0 problems since she’s a social drinker and I don’t drink at all so we didn’t waste our time in the beer lines. Also got merch as soon as we walked in so we had 0 wait time in line. So amazing time for us. Good job for Andy for booking this whole thing.

[@RekusoXYZ]

im sorry you had to watch bright eyes

[@espiritucallejero9127]

@@RekusoXYZ aye bright eyes is more emo than half those bands chill brother 😔

[@espiritucallejero9127]

I'm a functioning alcoholic but when going to festivals it's definitely not worth leaving your spot for a 20$ beer. Glad y'all had an amazing time!

[@RekusoXYZ]

@@espiritucallejero9127 Brother I was there. I saw part of their set and it was just a drunk guy trying to survive his way through a set. Whole crowd was not vibing on it. Also I don't care if a band is more "emo" than another band, makes no difference to me.

[@scoot1412]

It seemed like the bright eyes front man was hammered and didn't care about being there. I missed the full set, but the end seemed like trash.

[@SlashManEXE]

I agree that it was odd to see so many negative people that wanted this to fail. Like you’re that envious that you’d wish another Astro World or Fyre Fest? Most people don’t even know the context when using those as buzzwords for “bad festival.”

[@tymysh0069]

I personally kinda wanted it to fail mainly for the ones putting it together... The prices of the event we're kind of a slap in the face to those of us who grew up on warped. Warped tour was not only a margin of the cost of this event but it also was a true multi-day event. Sure when we were young his technically a multi-day event but your ticket only granted you to one day of festivities.

[@lexidarling]

I'm kinda here for the emo nostalgia thing. It's cool that something like this exists, to celebrate a genre that was so maligned by all the big publications and all the gatekeeping music snobs. My only issue is the use of the term "elder emo." I mean, the "scenior citizen" pun is right there!

[@posthardcoresinger]

The term emo was basically invented by music journos to begin with. I just always celebrated music and bands specifically more than the particular scene, we gotta be able to poke fun at ourselves too though. I mean I guess I saw some guitar one blowhards or something like that crap talk emo, but there was a lot worth making fun of lol- and it was usually the people most concerned with labeling themselves. Also like, emo was super fuckin profitable so, I don't know about the gatekeeping thing. There's way less money in any version of rock music today really, at least when it comes to new bands.

[@nolanvernon2822]

I was there, luckily my tickets were for Sunday. They were right to cancel Saturday, there were 50 mph winds and a dust storm, it was difficult to be outside for more than a few minutes. I definitely have some complaints with how things were organized when I went on Sunday (mainly I thought the water stations should've been closer to the main stage area and there should've been more food stations), but it was far from a dumpster fire.

[@seanstreck3226]

The stages were also clearly not designed for proper wind loads. They gambled on calm winds and a flimsier design and lost. No guy wires, minimal cross bracing, etc. They should have spent more money on robust stage designs.

[@nolanvernon2822]

@@seanstreck3226 Agree! I worked for years as a stagehand/tech and I was definitely a bit baffled looking at some of the rigging

[@spacedonut6377]

I swear I was in a different Vegas becuase there was a few gusts but nothing like wind storms Nevada normally gets…

[@TikkiNikki]

As an Arizona native, one good thing came from this: to take up space between the dates an organizer made a concert here in Phoenix featuring Jimmy Eat world, the Maine and a couple other local artist on the rise. 3 generations of AZ music in one concert!

[@mlpdisneylover]

Hello other fellow Arizonian! I’m gonna compare apples and oranges here for a bit, but it’s related. I wanted to go to FestivAlt AZ originally set for September 30th, because of Waterparks, one of my favorite bands in the whole world, performing in my state in 2022. But when I first got news, I saw so many people be weary because of All Time Low performing alongside due to many allegations stemming from Twitter and TikTok that definitely left a sour taste in people’s mouths. I said I would 100% sure go to FestivAlt AZ only if there’s a Meet & Greet for Waterparks (it was common for them to do that and Q&A while on tour if you have VIP). But when I heard that FestivAlt AZ was actually cancelled, I was a little bummed (still am). But before that, I was starting to get worried from Waterparks not saying anything about FestivAlt AZ. Oh well, it’s probably for the best, because of a well liked band playing alongside a controversial one. Sorry for the ramble. I might as well say something about that lol

[@poppykeulemans7789]

I was meant to go to the show on Saturday and whilst I respect the precautions taken due to the wind I would like to add this: the heavy winds went on for roughly an hour and then blustered throughout the day; Sunday’s winds were actually more consistent. I was at the front of the line (probably 10th or so) - we were not informed that the festival cancelled until roughly 20-30 mins before gates were meant to open. I had a very small medical emergency (broke my finger) and was taken by a medic to the other side of the festival grounds to have them strapped up; I was then allowed to walk freely through the grounds to the front entrance. The festival was not ready, the vendors were not ready, the bar, the merch stand, even the stages were still being set up. I took a quick clip on my phone to show friends. Even if the winds had not prevented the show from going ahead I am sceptical that it would have anyway. I was one of the very lucky few that managed to secure tickets for Sunday and not pay insane prices (I travelled internationally so was hell bent on not missing it); my review of Sunday is this: if it had not been for the nostalgia it would have been the biggest waste of time and money. The sound was terrible, the layout of the festival was amateur at best and the way in which the barriers forced people to bottle neck was dangerous. For a Livenation event I expected so much more. I have even to festivals all over the world and I stand by stating that this was the worst. I am also unsure as to how the 85,000 capacity has been calculated as 85,000 people in the festival ground space is simply too many. I am sure you have all heard about the queues for merch, bar, food, toilets etc… in what world did Livenation think that 2 merch stands would be adequate?! Going forward I really recommend Livenation take a look at Reading/Leeds, Download, Tomorrowland, even Shambala as to how festivals should be run as it is clear they have completely lost all capability in running large scale events. If you would like any footage let me know.

[@MikeIzzle_]

I never understood why everyone thought it would fail. Did they never hear of warped tour? Day one only got cancelled because it was way too windy. Not like anything they could’ve controlled

[@FinnMckentyPRMBA]

Exactly

[@madmike1708]

Fyre festival basically made people more skeptical imo.

[@Andrew_182]

It’s really not hard to understand at all. There was a confluence of things that gave off the vibe that this thing would be a shit show. First, when it was announced a lot of bands didn’t even know their management or whoever had agreed for them to play it. Second the lineup seemed to good to be true, and the logistics of them all playing at a one day fest didn’t make sense to a lot of people. Third stuff like Firefest and Astroworld were/are very much on peoples minds thanks to the documentary’s and the tragedy being very fresh respectively. I’m happy for everyone involved that it (mostly) worked out great. But to act like people didn’t have reasons to be skeptical is disingenuous at best.

[@seanstreck3226]

I went. Festival was packed and chaotic but it worked. Overall worth the trip. My criticisms/critiques: 1. Stages weren't designed for even light winds. Speakers were rocking and it's obvious why they wouldn't stand on Saturday. 2. Merch needed electronic options. You shouldn't spend 3 hours in a merch line for a 1 day ticket. 3. Queueing system to get in was wildly disorganized. Some people waited 2 hours in line others flooded the gates ignoring the line. 4. 2 of our 7 group tickets for the wrong day. We had to buy new ones for the correct day and sell the old ones. Fortunately for us we actually made a few $. Other than that it felt good. Funny story about meeting someone international who got hosed. I caught an uber with some Canadians from my hotel and they were able to snag some $400 Sunday tickets when there's were cancelled. They were in $3700 cad for 2 Canadians and lucked the hell out. We were extremely fortunate to be able to buy our 2 extra Sunday tickets for $140 each before they shot up to 500+

[@jaaxoon]

Wild to see My Chem at the top of the lineup in ‘22 when in the 2000’s these other groups would have been above them. Their songs just aged better.

[@gravitygabri3l]

We had Saturday tickets and got refunds. Looked for NORMAL priced sunday resale tickets for 10 hours. Refreshed non stop and wanted to get tickets for cheap. Arounnd 8pm we found 2 tickets for $180. If there is a will theres a way. Sunday was such a memorable experience. Got to see all of our favorite bands back when we were teens in the 00s. It was cold, food and liquor was overpriced, BUT I will return next year. It was so much fun :). People were pretty kind and there wasnt any crazy nonsense going around like most festivals.

[@dmagoon8291]

I found it funny when you said you aren't really into nostalgia when practically your entire channel is based on nostalgia lol. But also the reason I watch so keep it up!

[@FinnMckentyPRMBA]

Gotta give my audience what they want! It's about their interests, not mine.

[@healthiswealth1452]

😂

[@XvXMONSTERXvX]

@@FinnMckentyPRMBA your right but it pains me my friend, I loved the videos you had about upcoming new music from trap metal to pop to alternative stuff and the Spotify playlists you would make for those videos, they may be unpopular but I found so many new artists I now like from them

[@jessestrobel2]

@@FinnMckentyPRMBA You do you, we don't matter homie

[@HeavyMetal-jy4vj]

@@FinnMckentyPRMBA You better have that top music of the year list on my desk tomorrow bro (just kidding!) but seriously throw ine one of those I wanna know

[@bella_trixx6589]

As someone who lives in Colorado and gets these insane winds, if you don't live in the desert west, the winds can get INSANE and super dangerous. Frequently, semi trucks are laying on their sides on the highway(I-25 usually) during these storms. We got this wind storm a day after this and it was wicked, the things flying across the road, etc were no joke. People were losing their patio ets, etc. Wind might not sound serious but if you live out here, you know. They are no joke.

[@MileHighGrowler]

And as another Western US resident, I can also add that it's hard to know what the weather will do until the day of. We often have the weather completely flip from what was expected, so I don't completely fault the organizers for playing wait and see vs cancelling early. And yes, that wind was super gnarly on the Front Range.

[@markwhittington1070]

Why do Americans live in these places?

[@azure8696]

@@markwhittington1070 Same thing happened in Spain this summer too.

[@MileHighGrowler]

@@markwhittington1070 Take a visit and you might find out! The desert is very beautiful in its own special way. And where I live, right against the Rocky Mountains, is breathtaking in another way. We have winds, wildfires and crazy weather. The coasts have hurricanes, the south has floods, the Midwest has tornadoes, the north has terrible winters - we all have challenges, but it's still beautiful and wonderful anywhere you are, and something for everyone!

[@plastickxx]

Personally think people thought it was just too good to be true, especially after going through the pandemic, people had a hard time accepting something so awesome could actually happen

[@kaceykasem]

38 year old me did want it to fail at first. For a combo of jealousy and Live Nation being horrendous. I got over it pretty quickly, but I'm not going to lie. I was bitter for a few weeks. Also, I secretly miss being excited about shit like this. At 22, my ass would have been out there. I'm just jealous of the people who can stand for that long. 😂 When we were young, I was able to stay in the pit.

[@FinnMckentyPRMBA]

Standing is the worst!

[@HavocFactionmusic]

It was a day to remember. Had the time of my life as 32 year old. Moshed and crowd surfed the whole time

[@JawncoreIL]

I was there this last weekend; the wind was THAT bad. I wound up selling my Sunday ticket while I was there to someone who was gonna go Saturday. Really shitty situation: but all things considered it did feel like WWWY was trying their best. Tons of pop up shows started getting announced, even shows that weren’t WWWY related but they still shared them around so all the kids who came Saturday didn’t feel like it was a total waste.

[@juliasouza91]

I think we should also try to see that WWWY was trying to have it go on but weather was so bad that they really had to cancel last minute.

[@jsalmons84]

I was there. We had tickets for day 1. The winds were up to 60 mph. We were bummed out but we got to see Anthony Greene, Senses Fail, Thursday and Bayside at the Sand Dollar downtown. It was a let down, but ended in a sick show in a 300 person club! These bands care about their fans and did us a solid. There were shows all over Vegas Saturday night to try to make up for the cancelled show.

[@jameswalker6272]

I was there too and were day 1ers. Im still so bummed dude. I missed all the popups too

[@zdoggzero6595]

I was at the same show! Only stayed for Anthony Green and Senses Fail because my flight was 7:00 in the morning but it was amazing nonetheless

[@jsalmons84]

@@jameswalker6272 We only got in because of a hookup. I know one of the performers personally as I too am a musician. I was so grateful.

[@jsalmons84]

@@zdoggzero6595 Oh man! Thursday and Bayside were EPIC!!!!

[@zdoggzero6595]

@@jsalmons84 that’s what I heard as well, unfortunately I’d have only slept for 3 hours at the most and I had work the day after getting home. I made sure to get flights later in the day and not 7 am for next year lmao

[@coleG112]

I think the coolest part of having these “Great Hits Of 2004-2012” all in one venue together, is all of the Features/Collabs can be played live. PTV playing with Kelvin and Jeremy, MIW playing with Knocked Loose, Avril bringing on ATL, and even new collabs like BMTH bringing Bryan (from Knocked) on to play Diamonds Aren’t Forever for the first time in years.

[@jynxycats]

BTMH and Knocked Loose are on tour together, so that's been a fun one they've been bringing out.

[@chrisrobinson1513]

That's because Ollie can't handle the hard shit like he used to, gotta bring the heat with Brian

[@JustSomePunx1312]

the difference between us and the Travis show. we aren't clout chasing,self centered, assholes. we help each other. I saw people letting security get to people who were hurt. Some of the bands also stopped to let people get them out. it was canceled and that sucked but it was a good show.

[@antithoughtpolice7497]

We had warped tour... Warped tour has a pedo problem. We're not above criticism. The older ones had Woodstock and drugs. Outdoor festivals have a history of intensity and some sort of problems

[@ChrisRaghoobar]

Nobody wants to talk about how the attendees at AstroWorld were GODAWFUL and behaved like animals from the jump, and that cannot be pinned on anyone else, not even Live Nation or Travis Scott

[@dizzyharris2658]

There are so many good video's on KZbin of the bands performing shows on the vegas strip after the 1st day canceled. Story of the year has some really good video's out there.

[@EmilyNoordzy]

Kim K was meant to land her private jet in Vegas to see Usher for her birthday and got turned around. So we know the wind was legit. If Kim can’t do it, no one can. As an Australian I’m glad I didn’t spend the money to go and have it cancelled but I’m also mad jealous that we don’t have anything on this scale here.

[@kalebnolan8343]

Good things, unify, download, knotfest

[@dysenteryalex182]

@@kalebnolan8343 yeah, because those line-ups can be compared to what WWWY has to offer… There hasn’t been anything close since Soundwave.

[@EmilyNoordzy]

@@kalebnolan8343 ah yes, seeing Parkway/Amity headline a yet another festival compares to seeing MCR, Paramore, Avril and a dozen other great bands all in one day.

[@FitzyyLives]

Hello... person who builds stages for festivals here.... wind is an incredibly dangerous thing for a stage because we have "wind walls" on the stages to cut down on wind onstage... but when you start getting 30-40 mph winds with huge gusts, they're just giant sails. mother nature is a bitch that don't give a fuck about your show... Livenation made the right move

[@mssuspiria]

I come from a city that is notorious for it's harsh wind, and I can attest that the wind on Saturday was AWFUL. Thank god I had the sunday tickets, even though there were some issues I had an amazing time! I don't regret driving there from Texas even slightly.

[@alexdarkside115]

TLDR: clickbait title Fest was a blast and cancelling the first day was a right call

[@DancingwithGhosts]

lol your title was SUCH click bait dude.. c'mon you normally don't click bait this bad, do better

[@mwilkins1644]

I used to attend a yearly festival in Australia called Easterfest, and in 2011 it flooded out, and there was a LOT of damage and wind etc. I was hectic af. And a couple of years later, they stopped the festival due to insurance issues. It's no joke, especially when you're dealing with artists who are making a living and fans/vendors/security/janitors etc whose lives are at risk.... Defs feel for the promoters

[@rayanna7188]

Yikes, that sucks. And yeah I feel bad for the promoters too. I also feel bad for the people that paid to go to the WWWY festival but couldn't go

[@ZeroaddoneMusic]

I also live in Las Vegas and when the wind picks up here it can be pretty destructive. I have literally seen it rip trees right of the ground and pick up large gazebos and crush them like coke cans. That was definitely the right call. I did want to go to the festival. I logged in to purchase GA tickets when they went on sale but the website would only let me pick the exceedingly expensive VIP packages when it seemed unlikely that regular tickets would be sold out so quickly. I did get a scammy vibe from the site itself so I just didn’t bother too much.

[@zsoltsandor3814]

Had they not cancelled and had there been a disaster, and had they had to cancel the rest of the festival, that would have been a LOT worse. Plus the shitton of lawsuits. Who the fuck wants that, honestly.

[@pookiepookakke]

I work at a Sam's Club really close to the strip and I gotta say this weekend was hilarious. The ungodly amount of former emo kids walking around casually shopping reminded me of back in 2007-2010 when all the emo kids would just dwell at the mall for hours.

[@chuckg3487]

I feel bad for people that werent able to go Saturday. Ive been to to many concerts/shows/festivals and I can say this one was absolutely incredible.

[@Greg-in-Orange]

I had a Saturday ticket and was able to snag a Sunday ticket after the cancellation. I walked the strip Saturday and the wind was intense. I definitely understood the decision to cancel after walking around for a bit. Wasn’t able to catch any side shows unfortunately. Sunday was one of the best days of my life. Knocked Loose, Four Year Strong, BMTH, Pierce the Veil, and ADTR were incredible. Blew my mind. Meet me @ the Altar also did a mash up that included a Limp Bizkit cover which was awesome. Neck Deep was also really good. The lead singer for Bright Eyes was drunk or high and could barely talk on stage. And Taking Back Sunday sounded like trash. All in all, 10/10 day, worth the huge cost.

[@tlacey]

I was supposed to go Saturday and was so disappointed but the wind was too unsafe. I was relieved that I at least managed to get into the show with Anthony Green, Thursday, Bayside and Senses Fail. It made up for it for sure.

[@Manuelitoohnovideos]

You cute

[@zdoggzero6595]

I was at that same show! Definitely helped make up for that.

[@ericaanderson14]

It's cool Paramore played that song because it's one of their hardest songs for Hayley to sing because of the range it requires. I'm sure that's why they didn't ever play it before when they were doing a ton of shows back to back for 200+ days a year.

[@matthorndrums]

What's a worse headline for a first time festival? When We Were Young Day 1 Cancelled due to Extreme Wind or 80 People Dead at When We Were Young day 1?

[@erikbarrett85]

The fact that a single one of these bands showed up is pretty much completely different than firefest and very clearly they were there to play if they still ended up doing small venue shows. But just being there is a better sign than I expected

[@david0hinckley]

Yup my friends and I were so bummed to miss Saturday but yeah…super windy and dusty, legitimate 40+ mph winds. Right decision for sure. I thought they did a fantastic job setting up. Plenty of free clean water, plenty of clean restrooms, food, they laid down turf on the asphalt which made it much cooler but also easier to walk on/stand on, you could sit or lay down anywhere, they had lots of shade tents. Very well-executed in my opinion

[@CastleChris92]

I went to WWWY Day 1 and I'll tell you from my personal experience, it was crushing. I completely understand why things were cancelled, but it's the way that it was handled that was the worst part. Leading up to the show, we knew there would be bad wind and people messaged the WWWY social accounts and we're ASSURED that everything would be fine. They cancelled the event less than an hour before gates opened. Then there was radio silence from the bands (not that they were responsible) for a few hours as they tried to scramble and put on last minute pop up shows, ON A SATURDAY IN VEGAS. A few managed to get some booked, but these shows were at 200-500 cap venues at best. AAR played a BBQ restaurant, Silverstein played a hotel that the cops got called to because too many people showed up. BMTH and KL booked a show at a casino theater that people lined up to for hours and were told they would get in. Casino staff brought them to a different room saying they were assured entry, and then when tickets went on sale, they sold out in less than 2 minutes, and everyone in the room was told "Oh yeah, we moved you here because you were blocking the casino floor." I managed to enjoy my time in Vegas, but it was bogged down by the defeat of the event and everything surrounding it. ESPECIALLY as day 2 went off with no issue and would never have been a thing if it wasn't for people like me buying tickets to the first day that never happened. Sorry for the rant, love your content.

[@organoidmofo]

I was at the BMTH pop-up. It was epic. I am still hurting from getting the notification 30 mins before gates were scheduled to open. Was even more gut-wrenching seeing all the photos/videos from Sundays show. I'm Not Okay.

[@poppunkfridays]

We were there for day 2. It was a great show. Like any other festival it had its issues but the bands brought their A games and were super humble and appreciative to the fans. Everyone we met there was super positive and there to have fun. Was a great day. Feel for everyone who missed out on day 1. That wind was crazy. Never woulda guessed that was gonna happen in a million years.

[@andrebrynkus2055]

People comparing it to Fyre are just drama queens spouting overreactions. Fyre was on an island, barely any food, people trashing tents just for fun, and lots of stolen luggage - all because of a plan to grift. This was cancelled just before the show but people still were in Vegas. They had their luggage, they had their hotels, and they had access to thousands of restaurants - all without other tourists going feral. Yeah, it sucks that it was cancelled but that happens at festivals. They should ask Cheap Trick about the time high winds caused their festival stage to collapse and nearly killed people. Stopping the show saved people.

[@dylansmith7370]

I was leaving the elevator at my hotel Saturday to meet my brother at the bar, and ran into Jack and Alex from All Time Low. They told me they just happened to be in town. Fast forward to Avril’s set on Sunday, and she brought them out to play with her! Such a cool surprise

[@geoffw24]

Shit I was at warped tour in Dallas in like 2006 and there were 2 bands left on mainstages, nofx and rise against.. it got ridiculous, tornado winds, crazy rain, literally all the trash was cycloning everywhere. BUT, rise against came on and the lead(can't remember his name) came out into the crowd and played their entire show out there saying if he got struck by lightning and died with his fans that's the way he wanted to go. Been a fan ever since. It was so bad I didn't stay for nofx neither did most people but rise against was fucking inspiring on that day. Definitely one of the top 3 performances I've ever seen

[@DingleMcDangle]

The video posted of Adam from Taking Back Sunday’s Instagram was crazy. He literally looked like the wind was about to blow him over. You couldn’t t hear a word he was saying.

[@philliesr2c22011]

When it was announced their were bands coming out saying they had no idea about it. There were multiple reasons to believe this was a scam

[@ozzyondirt4003]

We wanted it to fail because they didn’t want to add I set my friends on fire!

[@BigSleep3750]

Straight up sinful. Who doesn’t want to see “but the nuns are watching!” Live?

[@rubberpenguin]

They literally offered them a spot lmao

[@TheGamingAltar]

I work outside about 20 minutes about where the festival was and holy shit it was windy!

[@jamesbradford870]

Something about Gerard Way singing "I'm Not Okay" at 45 years old just doesn't hit the same lol. Also Billie Joe Armstrong is 50 years old god damn..

[@DarkJedi078]

As someone who was supposed to go on Saturday (but managed to change to Sunday), it was justifiable to cancel Saturday. BUT I don’t think it was gone about in the best way. They easily could have put out a warning on Friday - our weather forecasting is pretty advanced. They obviously were trying to save face and were hoping it would turn around (and didn’t want to take the tourism away from Vegas). Again, it was the right safety call to make, but I don’t think they did it with the attendees in mind. They canceled it and didn’t give warning earlier because they didn’t want to get sued, not for the attendees.

[@tymysh0069]

I personally wanted it to fail mainly for the people putting it together... The prices where kind of a slap in the face to those of us who grew up on warped tour...not only where tickets cheeper with warped but it was also a multi day event.. for when we where young, sure it's multi day but your ticket only granted you to one day

[@flipeverything2734]

Random tourists “Omg!! Emo’s!! Don’t worry. They’re only dangerous to themselves “

[@alejandroplpe]

Man, I truly respect you and think you're a bright guy. And I love your content. But the title of this video is clickbait in its worst version.

[@x6dingle6x]

The old man makeup was just them copying Fred durst. Hahahah

[@apanapandottir205]

I'm so sick and tired of obsession with negativity in the current online landscape.

[@FinnMckentyPRMBA]

Same. But i gotta play the game

[@apanapandottir205]

@@FinnMckentyPRMBA Haha. Honestly I didn't mean you in this case. Well, maybe the title lol.

[@sochioranmyaku]

I think the people crapping on it are the metalheads with boomer mentalities that are still mad that emo bands exist 20 years later.

[@NickHodge91]

It would have been fyrefest2.0 if they let Saturday happen and a stage blew down. Feel for those people though, nothing more soul crushing than being hours away from an epic weekend only to have it ripped away by something out of your control. At least some bands were able to put shows on Saturday night

[@bodanjon]

Only grip about it is that a ticket should have been for all 3 days and not 3 single day tickets

[@colina1330]

I feel like Bright Eyes is an outlier amongst that lineup. Everything after Fevers and Mirrors is kind of in a league of its own. Conor always seemed like he was ahead of the curve on the whole emo thing.

[@ashigaramii__]

They fucking SUCKED

[@colina1330]

@@ashigaramii__ great lyrics, interesting arrangements, each album is unique/has its own personality. I wouldn't say they suck. It's not everyone's thing, and I get that. They definitely don't suck, though.

[@ashigaramii__]

@@colina1330 the singer was a mumbling drunk the whole set. It was insufferable

[@colina1330]

@@ashigaramii__ ohhhhh you mean their live show. Yeah, Conor is his and miss. I've seen him with Bright Eyes and solo, and I guess I got lucky because he crushed it both times.

[@xXLucipadiXx]

It wasn't a disaster I was there, It was a serious situation and 2nd and 3rd day were fucking awesome

[@stevenrook1477]

I thought this was such a weird mixture of bands although i always like seeing AFI I grew up on those guys and I still love them there's a few other bands I wouldn't mind seeing and there's a few band i absolutely hate from this lineup overall I thought it was way too much money another thing I thought was weird was that most the band are still together and are still actively playing isn't it supposed to be like a nostalgia concert....I don't know...SFxHC

[@brettcooper3893]

I'm from Alaska, and lemme tell ya: 40 mph gusts are just a MILD DAY for us, especially in the winter. That being said, I no longer live in AK, but when I did, I traveled from AK for concerts in the Lower 48. But I always realized that there was always a chance there could be a show cancelation. Fortunately for me, it never happened, but I always kept that in the back of my mind. To not do so would be naive. Speaking of AK, I remember in 2014 partying with Tyson and Co. at the bar I was doing karaoke at. They were playing the state fair, and came down to the lounge. So, I can say I've sang in front of All American Rejects. Also, pro tip when traveling out of state or country for a concert: whenever possible, always try and go to an indoors show. There's a lot more controllable variables with them.

[@Olivia-mr7gt]

They definitely made the right move on Saturday… Trees were breaking in half in the streets and the air quality was extremely hazardous. I do feel terrible for the people who had tickets to day one, but it would have been so much worse if they had continued with the festival and people ended up hurt. I was at the festival on Sunday and genuinely had the greatest time of my life. Dont get me wrong, it was by no means entirely perfect. The merch/food lines could definitely use some work next year, but it truly didnt take away from the overall experience that much. I had a great time. The fact that they prioritized safety and still managed to pull off the next day makes it far from a disaster in my eyes.

[@radiv6502]

Looks like "When we were Young 2022" still went more smooth than "Wecome to Rockville 2022."

[@irishspagetti6565]

the part about Bring me the horizon playing a small venue reminds me of the Wonder years episode where Rolling stones are playing a dive bar and Kevin and his friends going on a road trip to see them

[@wolfoframa]

The reason it looked like a scam is because they announced the lineup but never actually contacted the bands beforehand and there wasn't even a website up when fb event was announced

[@theSirGalleway]

I was there. It was absolutely INCREDIBLE!

[@woofwoofdoggo]

Fr

[@DahliaOlive]

Mmmhm. It was.

[@GonzoCiosain]

Speaking as a stagehand who's worked many festivals over the years, cancelling due to weather was completely understandable. A stage collapse like the one you showed in the clip is every backstage worker's worst nightmare and for good reason.

[@PsychoCheese11]

We travelled from the UK for Saturday, and was absolutely gutted. It seemed slightly breezy in the morning. However, come afternoon, it was super strong winds, so I can't blame them at all. As much as it sucks, no concert is worth the tragedy that could have come if they'd gone ahead. Praying Download comes up clutch for the 20th Anniversary!

[@DJENTISNTNOTAGENRE]

Well now I'll just be thinking about how I missed a small venue show with BMTH and Knocked Loose..... I'mma just go let this darkness consume me for a while

[@zdoggzero6595]

I’ll join ya it’s all good

[@xjaawgex]

The venue they played wasn’t that small. Still a decent sized theater

[@DJENTISNTNOTAGENRE]

@@xjaawgex Still probably much smaller than most of the places you would see a band like BMTH play at these days.

[@doom5138]

it was only garbage for Saturday. Sunday was flawless

[@bella_trixx6589]

I heard LiveNation prevented the headliners from doing free shows on Saturday, BMTH managed to get a paid show up and running on Ticketmaster with Knocked Loose, tho. Tickets were like $50

[@grantmurrieta7439]

It should be noted that the handful of bands that did hold side shows were in 200-400 capacity venues. 90% of the people didn’t get to see a show and if you did you were absolutely lucky. We ubered to Saosin and BMTH within 2 min of them posting their shows and there was already 500+ people in line. Very unfortunate :(

[@ndnbane]

Sucks it canceled the first day but Sunday was a great show

[@michaeldoyle189]

There aren't any touring festivals anymore. They are all destination festivals now. Love them or hate them, I miss the days of Warped Tour, Ozzfest, Pledge Your Allegiance, Mayhem, etc.

[@adamtrue6588]

I went on sunday and it was great. Bands went off without a hitch and everyone sounded great. Crowds were a little disorganised/badly distributed which lead to some bottlenecking etc, but overall it was an awesome day! Vegas was a pretty bittersweet funny sight on Saturday tho, not gonna lie

[@GameEsthetics]

I went and thought it was amazing for its first year as a festival! Saturday was extremally windy and even the casinos were warning guests to stay inside... My only issue was the merch lines were a mess and I personally believe that more people were let in than capacity cause the front ticket system was wonky. All they did was scan a barcode from a picture on your phone, what if someone sent that to 50 people? You did not have to scan out if you left, you only received a re-entry wristband so they couldn't track who was leaving and re entering so anyone could've came in with the barcode. BUT all the bands stayed perfectly to there time slots and the lines for beer/food/bathrooms were all reasonable. Overall it was a blast and I would gladly go again.

[@woofwoofdoggo]

Sunday was LIT. Best festival/concert I've ever attended.

[@Brandnewriot001]

I don’t think having one day out of a three day festival canceled can be considered a “disaster”.

[@KT12191]

Lol Finns succumbing to clickbait video titles. Sad.

[@joshhale9355]

After what happened at Astroworld, I can’t blame them for canceling a day for the safety of everyone. Those are high levels of wind, all that equipment might not hold in place and could be dangerous for anyone close by. They booked all this months ago so how did they know the wind would be a big problem in late October? I think, while it sucks for people that paid for three days and didn’t get that, WWWY made the right call to make sure no one was in danger due to the weather.

[@carlosmartinez6227]

I would love to be in vegas when a huge emo fest was going on to see the people. I also disagree that Paramore is a legacy act. I love all their new stuff. I listen any band's new stuff when it pops up on youtube so I would be happy seeing black vield bride do a new one if i saw it on youtube

[@RobbyFireTV]

I just got back and honestly it was a great time.

[@live4hockey2]

I was one of the unfortunate Saturday ticket holders who got cancelled. I held it together pretty well and rationally, but there were a lot of people who didn't. In its own ironic way, 75,000 emos wandering around Las Vegas being sad and depressed because they didn't get to see their favorite bands is the epitome of what emo is all about. In all seriousness though, it sucked hard to hear the news, but I understand the reasoning. If you want a firsthand take from my experience, please read on. So from the very beginning when they announced this my red alarms were going off, but not because I thought it was a scam. I've been to enough festivals to look at that lineup and say, "There's no way in hell this is a one-day concert. Not with this stacked of a lineup. Even smaller festivals are two or three days." I thought they'd wait a few days then announce another day, but of course they didn't. Ticket sale day comes, wait in the queue with credit card in hand for hours at my computer ready to go, and the queue crashes due to demand and pretty much all the tickets get bought off to scalper sites in a hot minute. Reluctantly bought two Saturday tickets from SeatGeek for around $950. Ok cool, whatever, got my tickets. There was a small clause on SeatGeek though that did raise concern and that was the tickets were non-refundable. I took a chance on it anyways with the fest being 10 months out. But Ticketmaster and LiveNation, in all their greediness, came out 24 hours later and announced the Sunday show "due to high demand". I knew it, and I was livid. They hyped up demand for the first day, made me spend twice the original ticket price off a scalper site, then dropped another show. On top of that (and this is the real reason I'm still livid) is they KNEW! They knew it was going to be a two-day fest from the very beginning. If they had been honest from the beginning and said "this is going to be two days" and gave us three options; a Saturday ticket, a Sunday ticket, and a two-day pass, I would have gladly gotten the two-day pass. All the extra money would have been forgiven if they had done this from the start and it would have made a lot of people less sad/ mad. So I save up some vacation money the next ten months, and the weekend comes. Fly out of Austin to Las Vegas and meet up with my old college roommate who I haven't seen in three years. We stayed at the Circus Circus, which isn't the worst place in Vegas, but it's far from the best. Probably hasn't been renovated since the 90's. No microwave or mini fridge or anything you find in a modern hotel, but its decent enough for a weekend. Spent Friday doing the tourist thing on the Strip, gambled, did some sports betting, got accosted by flapper girls wanting $80 for a picture, saw some homeless crackheads, etc. Got a little shitty that night, wake up with a small hangover Saturday, go pound some breakfast real quick and some Tylenol and get in the zone. The real reason I picked the Circus Circus to stay in wasn't necessarily because it was cheaper, but because it was 300 yards away from the fairgrounds. We ended up walking over at around 9:30ish and the line was already ridiculously long. So we found our spot, go hyped, made some friends, and waited for the gates to open. Right around 10:30, everyone started looking down at their phones and talking. Some dude announced they cancelled the show and to check Twitter. We checked our phones and sure enough, there was the official announcement, but we didn't move. As stubborn as we were, we stayed in the line waiting for someone from the festival to make the call personally. About five minutes later a guy drove up on a golf cart and made the announcement. We were floored. Some people protested, but nothing violent. They probably just didn't know how to deal with it. So with some reluctance me and my roommate wandered around the block in a state of pure dejectedness and numbness, trying to process it. I'd never seen so many people who looked like their dog just got run over. Some took it better in stride than others. Girls were literally in tears. One dude broke out a bluetooth speaker and started playing music. Some people went acapella and just started singing. Eventually we sulked back to our room, changed out of our emo regalia, and tried salvage the weekend. We kept tabs on social media for pop up shows, but they were impossible to get to. Once one was announced it filled up too fast. You literally had to be in the right place at the right time for a popup. We ended up living vicariously through social media for the Sunday show. My roommate had to fly out Sunday anyways so even if we did score scalped Sunday tickets he wouldn't have been able to go. I didn't want to go without him, so I spent Sunday doing the tourist thing again. It felt like being grounded and having to watch all your friends have fun outside without you. From what I could tell, those that went to Sunday had the time of their lives. There were a few hickups with the fest, mostly concerning lines and getting in. Apparently people stood 2 hours in a fake line to get in? I don't know how that works. Merch lines were long and merch was sold out fast. But all in all, everyone seemed to have a wonderful time, except for the unfortunate Saturday souls.

[@vaxis2113]

Mech line was a disaster and so was the food line. Other than that everything was great. The festival was easy to navigate and was able to see everyone I wanted to see. Saturday actually ended up being fun because all the pop up shows made it seem like an Emo scavenger hunt.

[@DeadzoneMusic]

Yeah with everything that went down with Astroworld plus all the press Woodstock 99 has gotten recently, they can't afford to make any mistakes regarding safety. And it's probably for the better, going to outdoor shows in bad weather sucks anyway