A short cautionary tale on using certain types of tools outdoors and failing to oil them afterwards.
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@GermanToolReviews6 жыл бұрын
I think people are missing the point of this video. It is to show what would happen to your non-plated tools if you don't oil them after getting them very wet. I was trying to project what the pliers would look like in the same scenario. The 2nd part about removing the rust on a hammer was more of an experiment than anything else. I know there are many different ways to remove rust and this method was the least effort which is why I took that route.
@jamesf96106 жыл бұрын
anthony dibart I accept lol
@nitramretep6 жыл бұрын
Frankly with the prices at KC Tool I would be polishing the darn tools!
@MrSuperheterodyne4 жыл бұрын
You take good care of your tools - as someone who relies on his tools every day, I think I should take better care of mine. They get wet, lost, left behind, wrenches used as hammers, tossed into the toolbox carelessly etc etc it's just the tradesman's way.... and I never oil them - even pipe cutters that get wet. If I am feeling generous, they get a quick blast of WD40. Then I have the cheek to wonder why they are all seized and stained with oxide. Sometimes we forget the cost of these tools and how much it costs throughout the year to replace lost items. You are right of course, these tools should be looked after. Nice job on that Gedore hammer.... I like all German tools, never had one fail me - even when abused. Thanks for the videos.
@jokinabadsbs6 жыл бұрын
the rust comes out using the hammer :) and why dip the hammer in the fluid? I usually dip a paper towel and put into the rusted part...
@SparkyP3206 жыл бұрын
You probably ruined your hammer doing all that work because of a little rust. It’s a tool, they get dirty and rusty. Then again you bought a special pair of knipex pliers for “outside” work
@BradsWorkbench6 жыл бұрын
san2cci 😂🤣😂
@user-vj1hy8si7p6 жыл бұрын
I really like this channel and so feel somewhat uncomfortable suggesting that we should all take up a collection and buy him four stainless steel hammers (two good ones and two controls). He could then hang said hammers in the backyard for a year. Can you imagine what his neighbors would say? "¡Primero fue un destornillador y ahora martillos!"
@FishFind30006 жыл бұрын
Lol yep
@xtrajently6 жыл бұрын
Wow...And I thought I have OCD issues...
@OneCosmic7496 жыл бұрын
What a surprise that it was only a surface rust when it was evident on the first sight :D
@user-vj1hy8si7p6 жыл бұрын
Just wondering why you went through all that time, effort and material when you could have knocked off the rust in about 30 seconds with a wire brush or wheel.
@BradsWorkbench6 жыл бұрын
Российский робот my thought exactly lol
@GermanToolReviews6 жыл бұрын
Probably couldn't have gotten down into the striations on the hammer face that way.
@user-vj1hy8si7p6 жыл бұрын
Well, if you want to get microscopic about it, you could always orient the wire wheels' direction of travel with the grind marks on the tool. I appreciate that rust remover is microscopically 'better,' but I think many viewers found it odd that by being a perfectionist on the steel (and taking many hours), you ultimately undermined the handle slightly. That and the fact that many people (myself included) appreciate the aesthetics of a well used tool. Some of my favorite hammers are old, painted at various times, dinged up, rusty and so forth, but this shows their history.
@user-vj1hy8si7p6 жыл бұрын
Here is a rusty hammer story: Many years ago, at an incredible hardware store in lower Manhattan that no longer exists, I bought a cheap Chinese hammer for a buck or two. This was before Harbor Freight, and I figured an extra would be a good idea. The next year I had an awkward teenager help me paint an old house I had purchased in Maine. His job was to climb a ladder and bang down all the 100-year-old square nails to prep the clapboards. There was no way I was going to give this klutz a good hammer, so he got the Chinesium hammer. Sure enough, when he opened the shutters on the second floor and a sleeping bat flew past his face, he dropped the hammer onto the granite stoop, breaking the handle neatly just below the head. I saved the hammer for some reason and, a few years later, threw the head into my woodstove on a whim. I knew the fire would destroy the temper, but I wanted that wood and epoxy out the easy way. The next morning I cut the handle a few inches shorter, crudely narrowed it on my bandsaw, and reattached it. Sor some mysterious reason the shortened hammer now swung like a champ and--at least for me--was PERFECTLY balanced. The temper had also survived the fire just fine. I have had this hammer for several decades since, and the metal is dark, and the handle is wrapped with tennis racket tape, and there's paint spots and so on, but it's my go-to hammer for certain jobs, and I wouldn't clean off the oxidation for a whole set of Gedore hammers (of which I also have a few). Just sayin.'
@Michelle-Eden6 жыл бұрын
I like the rusty hammer story.
@EditioCastigata6 жыл бұрын
1. You don't need the alcohol, just use Ballistol for cleaning. That's what it's for. 2. Ballistol is no surface sealant. It works as such if you apply it regularly, but that's not the point.
@jamescmartinjr72496 жыл бұрын
I've removed rust off the head of hammers myself. Also started using boiled linseed oil on the wooden handle. Boiled linseed oil will soak into the wood and help prevent any further cracking of the handle.
@geoffnepo4 жыл бұрын
I would suggest applying boiled linseed oil on the end grain and may need multiple applications over a week. Similar process to conditioning a bushcraft knife or an axe handle
@curiousgeorge5553 жыл бұрын
Alcohol is a good tip . I'd use white vinegar to clean the rust straight out of the gate.
@jamesf96106 жыл бұрын
What's with the hate he likes his tools to look good I do too. That don't mean we don't use them we just like to protect our investments
@nitramretep6 жыл бұрын
I would also avoid ANY liquids near the end grain of the handles. I would suggest a little light grade oil and 00 steel wool.
@em0_tion3 жыл бұрын
Exactly! 👍 Sand down the wooden handle and apply some BLO or Ballistol. Worst case rust scenario the metal can always be sanded down and blackened with some cold bluing solution.
@heavydiesel6 жыл бұрын
Give it a buff with a maroon scotch brite pad, would clean up a treat. Weathers been so dry here I've had my hammer soaking in a bucket of water as the wood had shrunk, rust be damned!
@kamilradzikowski6 жыл бұрын
Hi GTR, I coat some of my rust-prone tools with undiluted Penetrol by "Flood." It supposedly penetrates and seals existing rust and certainly it leaves a gummy layer impermeable to water and air. Sure, it wears away on surfaces that contact or strike other hard surfaces, like faces of hammers, but it remains in place on other surfaces. It's also kind to the skin when dry. I think that oil is the only solution for heavy contact surfaces and those surfaces that must be kept "unspoilt" like handplane soles or chisels. Thanks for the content!
@joeltalbot15465 жыл бұрын
Personally, I appreciate the knowledge you’ve imparted in this and all of your other videos. What you do with your possessions is your business. There will always be those who bitch and moan about what others do with their personal possessions. I do have a question though; sometimes you use 3-in-oil and Ballistol in others. Would you please take a moment to explain your decision making process on when to use either product in your projects. Thank you and have a very Merry Christmas. 🎁🎄
@hugh53566 жыл бұрын
My version of this hammer has a SPAX torx screw on the top.
@RobertSmith-di5ll6 жыл бұрын
rather than risk the handle could you just use wire wool to clean the metal - also if you dry stuff out very slowly re wetting and drying you may stop the cracking - I think they use this technique is used for restoring old wood - quick drying does the damage?
@IntegraDIY6 жыл бұрын
I use a 2.5lb mini sledge for busting ball joints and other auto mechanic stuff, and when the tip gets a bit rusty from sitting around, an old greasy rag will clean it up nice.. it's a hammer, for me, the rustier and dirty it looks, the better
@bigrobbyd.68056 жыл бұрын
That's why I keep cheap tools in my travel toolbox. I keep the good stuff at home. There's less chance of expensive tools getting ruined, lost, or stolen.
@KostadinDelizhanski6 жыл бұрын
do not like ... you ruined the handle for some light rust ... a bit of cleaning even with sandpaper would have gotten it all out, and preserved the handle ... pure overkill for me ... but next time maybe try different approach
@GermanToolReviews6 жыл бұрын
The handle is still good. The replacement handles are only $5 even if I did ruin it.
@ccmogs57576 жыл бұрын
Calm down everyone ! An advert for Evapo-Rust thats all :]
@rwils63336 жыл бұрын
You could have sat the face in evaporust without soaking and damaging the wooden handle. Or just oiled it with a cleaning oil. Bad move publishing this on the web.
@axtra926 жыл бұрын
R Wils but then it would still have some tiny rust on the edges..
@thingyee11184 жыл бұрын
Why not wire brush end where rust was then oil it instead of going totally OTT with rust removal bath and ruin wood?
@kentuckyburbon17775 жыл бұрын
i keep a zip lock bag with motor oil in my tool box and let it leak all over;)
@John..182 жыл бұрын
Seems you did a lot more damage soaking it in the evaporust, than the tiny bit of rust that was on there,,,, I'd have just given it a good rub with some wire wool soaked in wd40, then cleaned, polished, and oiled it,, just my 2 cents..
@Whigu6 жыл бұрын
Thinking about the color of that liquid I have to say that you should drink more... ;-)
@franktechmaniac74884 жыл бұрын
Sand down the rust and fry the hammer head in your fryer before you change the oil.
@cdw34236 жыл бұрын
Good point on using a little oil to keep the rust away. However I think a good scotch bright pad would have taken that rust off very easily. Personally I would be tempted to round over and smooth off the sharp edges where the paint chipped away and let it rust, then repaint it. Any time you have sharp edges like that the paint or other coating is much more likely to chip off. Of course that wouldn't do anything to protect the face of the hammer. But that is more of a topic for a tool restoration video :)
@jokinabadsbs6 жыл бұрын
From a tool collector to a tool collector: this was a bad video. I have viewed 2 times and I dont get the point of doing this. I'm sorry
@kova15772 жыл бұрын
Didn’t know Jordan Peterson did tool reviews
@axtra926 жыл бұрын
3:50 WHY?!
@TheDoosh795 жыл бұрын
I think if I did a video run down of my tool bag you would have a heart attack, used all day every day as an electrical and plumbing service engineer and they're pretty mangled.
@cadelfistro18246 жыл бұрын
All the angry people here... are we crazy for hating rust on tools? If the handle gets loose over time, let it soak in antifreeze. Just works😊
@socal_expat18566 жыл бұрын
Good thing I wasn’t a toilet auger that clean up could be weeks
@bryanlawless18586 жыл бұрын
After rust removal soak it again in anti freeze. Works for older loose handles too.
@bird7186 жыл бұрын
i just spray wd40 or 3-1 oil and let it sit, rub with cloth and repeat.
@smartchip6 жыл бұрын
bird718 wd40 is terrible stuff, use anything ( with in reason ) else, gt, 3in 1, that baristol stuff, engine oil, olive oil, anyhing,
@bird7186 жыл бұрын
smartchip understood, i'll use 3in1 from now on thanks tommorow i'll use it on my open wrenches and wrenches and go thru the tools
@axtra926 жыл бұрын
bird718 so everytime you use a wrench you get oil all over the place?
@bird7186 жыл бұрын
axtra92 hahahaha no, after i think its clean enough i wipe it dry and air out. and its something i will start doing in about an hour from now.
@Brasshound4806 жыл бұрын
WD-40 is actually pretty good, but I use my gun lube on them. Hornady One Shot, Ballista, or Lucas Gun Oil in that order.
@frankkraaijvanger49376 жыл бұрын
Hello GTR, You woke up a lot of people.🙂 So many people, so many thoughts. To prevent soaking fluid in the head of the handle perhaps candle wax will work. Light a candle and let drip hot wax on the head of the wooden handle. It will cool and harden pretty fast. So the grain ends are closed by the wax. I did this never, but it should work. After the soaking you can remove the wax easy. Keep on posting.
@GermanToolReviews6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I wouldn't have done this on an antique hammer. This hammer was in a bosch L-boxx set that I got practically free. It is one of the cheapest hammers that Gedore offers because it doesn't have the Rotband plate, striking guard and uses the cheaper ash wood so I figured it would be a good experiment. I think people were missing the point. If it was the pliers I left out in the rain they would look the same as the hammer did. Maybe I need to dumb things down a bit next time.
@Michelle-Eden6 жыл бұрын
With all respect due to your excellent channel, I think YOU might be missing the point your viewers are making. I'm not saying you should agree with it; it's your channel and you should probably please yourself in such matters. But most people would think that a brass brush on a bench grinder is the easy fix, and that your 'fix' was comical because it was over-complicated and damaged the handle (which is potentially worse than rust, because a hammer is easily replaceable, but a loose handle is dangerous). This reaction is not dumb, it's just another perspective, and it'also seems to be the common perspective held by most of your viewers (who are all, presumably, self-selected tool users). I thought the story from the Russian guy about his old hammer expressed this counter aesthetic very well.
@tfoster326 жыл бұрын
I love my knipe X pliers
@Jnes016 жыл бұрын
For people insinuating that he treats his tools like museum pieces and doesn't really use them...well this channel is about reviewing nice new tools. The premise relies on him frequently acquiring new tools and making videos. He enjoys collecting tools, uses them when he needs to, and we enjoy watching his videos. He seems to be an engineer that does DIY stuff, not a tradesman. If you don't like it don't watch. That said, for rust that light Evaporust was overkill. A brass wire wheel on a bench grinder would have been faster. To people saying sand it--sandpaper on the face gives a chaotic messy finish unless you do it with finer and finer grits then buff it, which is ridiculous to do on a hammer.
@axtra926 жыл бұрын
Who does this? Are you only collecting tools and just make the look pretty for you? I dont get Why people collect tools.. start using them and you wont care if a hammer gets surface rust on it, cus the next time you use it you going to knock the rust of by hammering with it..
@GermanToolReviews6 жыл бұрын
I don't think that would have gotten rid of the rust on the edges.
@Papperlapappmaul6 жыл бұрын
Funny that you should ask, I just had a situation where I really could have used a clean, rust-less hammer for driving a small nail into a finished piece of wood without getting rust particles into the surface. But putting a piece of tape on the rusty striking surface did the trick, too, so...
@Marcel_Germann6 жыл бұрын
Abc Abc I got several of these hammers here made by different manufacturers and they are different ages...I don't care. One got a new handle because the old one broke, and that's it.
@axtra926 жыл бұрын
German Tool Reviews so you cant use it because it has some tiny surface rust on the sides?
@Marcel_Germann6 жыл бұрын
Such a Gedore hammer is 20€ (~23 US$) here in Germany, a 19% VAT included in this price. That's the reason why I don't care so much.
@MrZitrex6 жыл бұрын
Pointless
@barlow29763 жыл бұрын
I like your reviews but you've lost the plot on this one. A bit of surface rust? My tool box gets sprayed with WD40/Ballistol once in a while, and that's it. I've got a separate tool box for working on my boat, and all those tools are protected with AC50, as saltwater makes a big mess, quickly. Rain? don't worry.
@axtra926 жыл бұрын
Facepalm
@MichaelJones15276 жыл бұрын
Like your videos. I'm always using different methods to combat rust. I wish it were easy to keep the rust off my trucks. LOL Keep up the good work and check out my channel. A lot of live videos and comments. Thanks.
@jris6 жыл бұрын
Monday morning quarterback here: I’d a put the handle in antifreeze and used a flap disc for the head.
@BradsWorkbench6 жыл бұрын
Joel R what does antifreeze do for the handle?
@cdw34236 жыл бұрын
I'm wondering the same thing.
@jris6 жыл бұрын
Displaces the water and adds a drying swell to the wood more or less, so it tightens the handle to head. You can also soak it boiled linseed oil for a similar effect.
@jris6 жыл бұрын
Displaces the water and adds a drying swell to the wood more or less, so it tightens the handle to head. You can also soak it boiled linseed oil for a similar effect.
@jris6 жыл бұрын
Just got to be the Ethylene glycol variety.
@magnusnielsen26486 жыл бұрын
I am oddly provoked by this video..... maybe I started thinking about that "guy" at work who I always have to hustle because of. the one not doing actual work
@fjidsewff6 жыл бұрын
when you use a 300 dollar swiss made wire brush do you stop between strokes to straighten the bristles? How about a soft hammer, do you file the dents out of the face between blows? Are these objects ornimental? Pretty gay dude, pretty gay.