When You Had to Edit Videos on Tapes

[@NRGpony]

Imagine how great youtube would be if video editing still required this much work.

[@4Legacy]

Minus every aspect of the technology lol, there actually is still a surprising amount amateur video makers could learn from this.

[@shitmultiverse1404]

shittier, because we wouldn't have geniuses like David Firth, Cyriak, Cocofreakbean and other things like ytps and stuff, because it would be more work for the same result you would get in 2 seconds now, while a lot of work now means to do something that people in the 90's couldn't even imagine. Desprite shitty vloggers, we're lucky to be born with this kind of powerful technology

[@kyledavis7819]

I've got some tape decks and analog cameras. I'm on it. Check back in the summer

[@ericwood3709]

Imagine all the great content we wouldn't get, though, due to that high barrier to entry.

[@leeizme]

Kyle Davis is it out?

[@shitmultiverse1404]

1994: "Vynil records are disappearing, CDs are here to stay" 2019: vynil records are still existing and there is a huge market for them, while CDs are pretty much disappearing

[@dunebasher1971]

Vinyl. And the market for vinyl is *tiny* compared to the market for digital downloads/streaming.

[@jasontscott-west6037]

@@dunebasher1971 correct spelling yes. However 2020 has saw a huge growth in sales of vinyl. It’s overtaken CD sales and is expected to overtake digital download in 2021. In the UK it already has. Streaming is still big but streaming is replacing CDs for listening on the go and is consumed completely differently from vinyl and cassette tapes. Cassette tapes are also making a come back.

[@radiopenis1011]

Now there’s a market for cds like there is for vinyl

[@roxics]

As a teenager with a Videomaker subscription back then, I remember drooling over all this equipment I couldn't afford. By the late 90s DV cameras and computers with firewire connections made all of this obsolete. Which happened at the same time I became an adult and got a decent enough paying job where I could afford a new DV camera and a computer. So I guess I lucked out. A few years prior and I probably would have invested too much in analog gear. At the same time, I also kind of miss all this stuff and kinda wish I had gotten the chance to use it. But that's just nostalgia kicking in.

[@UserUser-zc6fx]

Yep. Same. The typical aspiring film maker teen video editing rig at the time was a decent camcorder with a flying erase head for clean cuts, a cheap 4 head vcr, and two 80s color mini tv sets. And you had to work all summer to be able to afford it. Electronics were just so expensive back then. Even stuff like the most basic video titlers with transitions were out of reach for most young people.

[@microwavedmetal]

Bro two steps in and it’s already alot of work…I will forever appreciate every person who took the time to edit all my favorite vintage movies and music videos…they certainly didn’t get paid enough

[@reesetube]

To be completely honest, I had no idea how people would edit tapes back then, so thanks for showing. That’s been legit a question in my mind for about a month or smthing now.

[@aquaevitae]

I remember this stuff from 90's. Don't actually miss so much. Digital Hi-Res video and computer edit is like a gift from heaven compared to this old-skool stuff !!

[@wabbit234]

I remember this guy on the street telling me that "white is right" but these guys are saying that white is for left audio and I don't know what to think now.

[@MC_AU]

Wabbit Jerk. Right is RED

[@JoshuaJackson15]

Lol

[@marcinpodsiadlo4178]

/r/whoosh

[@thenewbgamer6416]

White is left channel, red is right channel, yellow is the composite video.

[@theanalogzone5724]

@@thenewbgamer6416 If i recall, Yellow is for stereo audio, white is for audio, red is for video

[@SnepperStepTV]

Just bought the actual tape because i'd rather watch it on a vcr than online. Thanks for posting it for me to preview before i bought the tape!

[@ObiWanBillKenobi]

Thanks so much for digitizing and uploading this! For my whole life, I have loved using audio-video equipment. In the mid-1990s, I had a video production class in high school. We had professional-level cameras on rolling tripods, a video toaster, and a random-assemble edit system (I think a Panasonic AG-1950 commercial-level VCR with remote) where you programmed the start and stop points, then told it to go and the system controlled the source and target VCRs in real-time to create the final edit.

[@bsanchez3563]

Ooh what is a Video Toaster.... hehe sounds coolio imho... sounds imho like a person that toasts to the work done by the production crew... as in rasies a toast... I faintly btw recall iirc vaguely maybe having heard that phrase once or twide in digital film class back in iirc 11th grade or 2018-19...,ostly because of me being intentionally secretly imho asking over na over about retro consumer types kf tech liks vhs/dvd based camcorders vs a then seemingly boring and alsl torment of a small af camcorder what kind of human hating monster makes camcorder this small I thought...and a,so my hand gurdle is not working for shrinking my hand to fit the cam better.* eg the faux leather strap for holding said cam in jindsight even though I pretended to myself not to know it was not a gurdle lol. But. O joke after a mere few 3p ,ins or 45 minites iird the classes were all 30 or 45 minutes ANYWAY or 6 periods or 7 on wednesdays or no iirc was tue or wed or thu days... whatever one of em.. but reduced time.. for what was called knightskilled... returning to ones jomeroom class fwiw for what meant I guess in hindsight for job research skilled etc... but nobody ended up doing that so for that reason even tho I tried using it for mere homewrok of soem classes a little or else catch up work for some classes.. to try to get caught up an luckily did a few tiems siccessfully.. in order to not be held back from graduating on tiem after repeating a year pnce back in first grade for mere age reasons both being 4 vs 5 in pre k etc.. because Cali has a younger min age vs WA.. but yeah.. so anyways but whatever,

[@TVperson1]

"Some day we may be recording video biochips and camcorders will have no moving parts what so ever" The 4K SD card cameras of today will blow his mind!

[@busteraycan]

39:54 _picture icon or picon..._ Yeah, that didn't take off.

[@Eli_Santin]

You can't escape videotape editing in the '90s without hearing about the Video Toaster

[@RJS3566]

Really makes you appreciate digital editing. No wonder I never bothered to use all the analog editing equipment I bought which now resides in my shed.

[@badreality2]

Roger Smith What kind of monitors or tv's are you storing?

[@kyledavis7819]

Do you use them or are they just collecting dust? I'm interested

[@paesutori_y_pastry]

Yo Rodger You wanna sell any of that equipment ;)

[@stanleythrewbrick]

*”5 yrs l8r”*

[@SnepperStepTV]

You don't even have the editing equipment, were 19 when you posted this and probably thought you sounded real mature and like you knew what you were talking about, didn't you? But what you're telling us is you dropped the price of a Cadillac on niche electronics, which you only know what to buy after doing extensive research and analyzing what you want to get out if editing your videos, and then never used any of it because it was difficult which you knew going into buying it yet still easier than the way you would have been doing it otherwise which was pause-play between the camcorder and VCR. Do you think we're stupid? Newsflssh, you're stupid and your comment is signpost cancer of the highest degree.

[@orangejjay]

It is so dang cool to see what I can do in DaVinci Resolve and what was available even in the 80s. What a time to be alive. The future is today! ❤

[@ciprianwinerElectronicManiac]

Fantastic video, I always wanted to see an older video about video editing because I will be soon getting some VHS machines to toy with and edit some video. Thanks for sharing :)

[@ChristopherSobieniak]

You should look into some video effect generators to check out like the ones Videonics used to make.

[@ESPIRITUS_A]

such a passionate delivery on something that is about to cease be

[@mikemulto2378]

This is not just a lookback on how vcr videos are edited, but also gave the simplest explanation of the fundamentals of video editing regardless of the medium used especially on the part where they tackle continuity and proper usage of text and graphics. A lot of young video editors today (2023 as of writing) could learn from this.

[@codebeat4192]

Use all the effects available because... it's possible! haha.

[@Vatoxido]

Thanks for uploading. Finally I'll be able to edit my videos. :)

[@AVNewsCast]

I sure don't miss those days! I still have my Videonics AB-1.

[@mh1788]

Randy Rottweiler. What a badass name 💯

[@Kix-86]

This was... AMAZING!!! I've always wanted to see how PC-based analogue editing worked. There's so many retro tricks I wanna replicate but can't with today's stuff!

[@ChristopherSobieniak]

I used to love picking up Videomaker Magazine whenever that was on sale at a local convenience store I went to. You should review the Videonics line of equipment if you ever find them. A high school "Media Arts" teacher just gave me his old MX-1 unit!

[@Capturing-Memories]

Wow when he said recording video to biochips he was spot on, A company recorded the whole movie on a DNA string.

[@MrMatteNWk]

We star wipe to a shot of Flanders paying his bills, then we star wipe to-- Dad, there are other wipes than star wipes...

[@skunklungz]

you can pull out all those boring parts and your friends and family will thank you😂😂😂😂😂😂😂damn

[@orangejjay]

30:10 This is known and practiced even today. Audio is more important than video as far as quality is concerned. You can make mistakes on your set or in your video editing and as long as a solid sound track is there, the audience typically won't notice or care

[@1blisslife]

idk what number I am, but I remember doing this manually using a rather nice equalizer to do certain switching & other parts it would be up to me. This brings back memories... I always enjoy your content! ty

[@TVperson1]

Windows movie maker would have blown their minds

[@bryanna72]

I remember back in the day family members would record a TV show they had the vcr set and TV volume loud so the vcr would 'record' everything. I laugh now because it has nothing to do with either. You just have to make sure the vcr is getting the signal. Test it and you can turn the TV off. It's only purpose is the output no bearing on recording.

[@NetvoTV]

How far we have come

[@DJAlphaMusic]

Damm this is so awesome. Taking me back in time!

[@Galidorquest]

That was the most 90's intro I've ever seen, and the music sounds similar to "Yah Mo B There" by James Ingram & Michael McDonald.

[@dunebasher1971]

Ah, if only you'd exported it as 720p60, it would still have the characteristic "interlaced video" motion (or as close an approximation as you can get on YT).

[@foco5657]

exactly

[@notmuch_23]

Obviously Technology Marches On and the tech portions are _long_ obsolete, but some of this material is timeless and applies today.

[@MC_AU]

Now try EDITEC or EECO paired up with 3x 2-inch VR2000s, and an HS100 disk. Put a an old analog mixer in the middle... Add some extra TR-70Cs to keep the boys in ‘blue’ happy. ... or CMX340 plus any variety of A,B,C or D2 machines and a digital desk... All that just for video, audio is on a different room or place ! D1 was a transient phase, we can leave that out! There was a lot more - as you can guess... around 1000+ switches/pots and 2000+ indicators!

[@this_time_imperfect]

pshhhhh, that computer software editing will never catch on...

[@UserUser-zc6fx]

30 years ago.. 1994 doesn't seem that long ago. It's wild to think that these guys doing the presentation that seem so young are likely in their late 50s or early 60s now.

[@MJMDrawings]

Looks like Ross from friends

[@frankeinstein1570]

Sounds like him kind of as well

[@TheNiceJackass]

As a European I find it really strange how SCART never took off in north America dispite it being superior to any other connector at the time.

[@7rorre]

I never understood why SCART was invented when we already had 9 way and 25 way D type connectors for computers.

[@TheNiceJackass]

@@7rorre I don't recall, did they carry audio as well?

[@7rorre]

@@TheNiceJackass The D type computer connectors were only ever used for connecting computer peripherals, but they were out a long time before SCARTs were ever invented. They could have been used for audio and video but never were for some reason, even though they were a standard connector used world wide.

[@TheNiceJackass]

@@7rorre I guess the main advantages to SCART is they were very durable and easy to plugin. Euro TVs back then usually had multiple SCART sockets to connect all your devices much like HDMI today. I have heard that some really expensive TVs of the late 90s/ early 2000s were able to send 1080i over SCART.

[@philixer6769]

@@TheNiceJackass If you use RGB, then yes. But not with composite or S-video.

[@TheLemminkainen]

Amiga spotted!

[@ChristopherSobieniak]

It's saving grace around here in the US when it's gaming side failed.

[@TheLemminkainen]

Yeah they C= really fucked the gaming market. Yankees played NES we played C64Amiga :) LOL

[@mcramp20]

Very cool !

[@UltimateMadWorld]

The days before they were even trying to decide whether it should be made a felony to shout Gillette© in the woods incase bigfoot got offended!

[@gggnumber1]

I'm still living this analog nightmare. I got lots of SVHS tapes, mostly nonsense, but some funny stuff and I can't get it into my computer. Aaaaaaaaaah! I bought all this analog equipment in the mid '90's, when digital was first coming out, but there were lots of different formats, so I decided to hold off on buying ........ anything. I used to go to marketing seminars that were pitching digital editing hardware and at the time you needed a giant computer and external hard drives that could hold, wait for it (I mean, Really, wait for it) 8 Whole minutes of video. Not only that, to load those 8 Whole minutes it took 8 Whole minutes to load it, which was pitched as 'real time.' To which I said, "Real time? That's kinda slow." Which brought forth a giant wave of laughter from the rest of the attendees. That was the beginning of digital editing, which I decided to wait for technical advances.

[@vintagecameras9623]

Thank you

[@ucheucheuche]

38:58 Best analoguey ever.

[@Madness832]

The dudes @ the beginning; they had S-video on both the source & destination machines. You'd think they would've used it for the best quality.

[@sbrazenor2]

Madness832 they mentioned that they were doing it for the poor people without S-Video. Apparently the difference of a single cable was too complex in their opinion.

[@roxics]

@@sbrazenor2 Well to be fair most people didn't have S-Video connections on their VCRs.

[@Mxsmanic]

This video is going to give me nightmares. It brings back memories of what a hellish mess video used to be in the analog days. I got so frustrated with it that I abandoned it until digital became well established. In fact I had some of the equipment in the video. A lot of money spent and still absolutely abysmal quality in the final product. Good riddance to all that. Thank goodness that it’s ancient history.

[@leeizme]

Now a cheap phone could do most if not all of these effects/edits just fine

[@badreality2]

Dat intro music...

[@011001er]

Cheers, good for posterity alone. But I myself actually need to know how now. Some lunatic 2021.

[@SacWebDeveloper]

Amazing, they invented the thumb up and thumb down buttons long ago in analog form.

[@midnighttornado22]

Holy dark ages, Batman! lol

[@ed10523]

Steven Segal Meets Woody Allen..OMG! LOL!!

[@tbildo]

At the very end of this video, is that LTC I'm hearing?

[@gibbsm]

Saved all that belt money for video equipment, lol.

[@ericcartman2288]

SkyCorp Home Video like this

[@rorypenstock1763]

39:54 "picon"

[@CesareVesdani]

How can you record KZbin videos to VHS tapes?

[@realJoshiBOI]

I once recorded a movie from KZbin to VHS through the Wii's KZbin channel, but the service ended years before Wii ended internet support.

[@uwtitanfan]

Digital editing is still clumsy and archaic when compared to tape to tape IMHO. you just trade one set of problems for another.

[@MC_AU]

uwtitanfan They lost the technical skills and standards, but the content and effects flexibility available now is light years ahead.

[@bsanchez3563]

Ooh man never heard of control-L o.o :D man feeling so old to feel like this is modern info for learning imho... woah never thought of the phone landline once upon a tiem sort of r and t or ring and tips type of terms for applied to mini din/minijack mini phono connectors fwiw from headphones or phones as they commonly once had on recievers etc fwiw.

[@jehisoncarcamo3546]

Iggy Azalea whatched this 😌

[@OXyGeNe8DJ]

"like button and unlike button" used on a machine years ago 05:58

[@CmonSoundz]

Biochip? ;-)

[@nikolaidante3571]

Fcuk we've come a long way

[@Capturing-Memories]

Wow, I'm the second, Anyway I have that Hi8 Canon camcorder.

[@bsanchez3563]

Woah man the Sony Slink or Control-s ie "Controls feature" used in sony branded or else uh um Optimus by Radioshack oe similar to Realistic... by tandy corp... im old af and a geek nerd ik ik lmfao... but whatever. Makes sense for more than the mere reason the remote commanders of pre early 00? I guess had not enougj memory in flasj to store multiple frequency codes letalone have the such things as modern days unviersals ie remote called the universal remote... for controlling yo universal... lile the tv remote commander goes to control the tv... nah jk its meankng it can be programmed andn owdays with a phone.. whicj I mean to set up lols I just an slow to adapt hehe since like september.. have been meaning to recall needing to set up an use meh cell XD..

[@coolvideos8864]

AMIGA FTW

[@SCREAMER64]

1:03

[@DAVIDGREGORYKERR]

Anyone considered taking a PC that has 2x AMD PHENOM II X6 processors without UEFI and install BeOS 5.0 Professional and UltraDV plus the ATI AIO Wonder card and have done with it as BeOS can handle large media files from 600GB and larger would that not be better and you know what it won't crash ever.

[@celsomoskowitz833]

That's ridiculous, BeOS is completely obsolete. Get an iMac with Final Cut Pro X, I guarantee it can handle any file sizes lol.

[@shaggyboombastic1058]

I have one phenom pc without uefi

[@Warrior2044]

19:02 They never explained how to put these text on video. They just told us how to make text.

[@TheMaydayFlyers]

Looks like an episode of "The Office"!

[@ghastlytales]

Looks like bigfoot shaved around his eyes.

[@aghylessesidjilani4462]

Here cause of Iggy Azalea

[@svvitch9104]

Omg nooooooo.

[@bsanchez3563]

Ueaj even for me this video or show would def have been a tjing for o e to neeed to be able to pauche thus recordi g and have recorded onto s vhs if theh were to be able to keep ipup with this tv sjwo etc fwiw lmfao as I mehself using the pause of yt for quite a bit for when I am also listening and grasping for digesting info from yt click througj and have a few times and or also merely use captions fwiw for better accurately inferring the most probable words for each term used in the dialogue for keeping up with what is being said, Etc for what it is worth.

[@thenewbgamer6416]

Oh yeah, drinking water at it's finest.

[@dubsteppa420]

is this bob ross's production team?

[@Clay3613]

Even film was easier.

[@MC_AU]

Clay3613 ...except for the tape splices and china graph pencil - let alone audio sync.

[@004followtheword]

Did you know Jesus...... •Hated religion? •Spoke more about hell than heaven? •Expects us to be holy? •Never called Mary "mother?" •Says more people go to hell than heaven? •Is acknowledged historically by Harvard? •Does healings and miracles even today? •Can speak to you?

[@gio048]

🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺

[@maxwillson]

I'd rather shoot and edit on my iphone ahahaha!