Where Are The Ancient Oneness Writers?

[@InNateWayz]

I'm a Baptist & I didn't even know that this "Trinity" vs "Oneness" thing was a thing. Growing up I heard the term Trinity. I didn't become a true believer until 2014-2015, & I got my conviction & truth by reading the Bible. A year ago a co-worker, & brother in Christ asked me if I was trinitarian or oneness, I knew what he was talking about by instinct, & my answer was The Father is The Holy Ghost, & Jesus is The Holy Ghost, I guess I'm a One God guy. Ever since I've been finding ppl on my life talking about this very subject.

[@lesliex4599]

The David Bernard and Gene Cook debate was what brought me out of the trinity beliefs. We need to pray without ceasing to prepare out heart when speaking to Trinitarians and pray that the Lord prepares their heart to receive the Revalation of Jesus. Biblios has been a blessing to me and I know for many out there. Praise God, May the Lord continue to reveal to you his Word Bro Urshan, God Bless you and your family and church.

[@alanhales1123]

Lesliex I take it you are joking, AREN'T YOU. No saved person will believe David K Bernard and his erroneous beliefs. He won't debate with me because he knows that I will prove him wrong. Only unsaved people reject the trinity. You only have to read the first book of the Bible to see the trinity. The fourth word of the Bible proves the trinity. In the beginning, GOD (Elohim plural). One being manifested in THREE persons. Do wake up, you oneness people.

[@asmallfarmhomestead3657]

@@alanhales1123pretty sure he won’t debate you because he’s not going to debate random people from KZbin with 0 followers…

[@alanhales1123]

@@asmallfarmhomestead3657 David K Bernard was debating with me until I proved him wrong. I can prove any Oneness people are wrong. By the Bible and the Biblical Hebrew and Greek, that proves the trinity.

[@asmallfarmhomestead3657]

@@alanhales1123 the fact you think the word Elohim proves the trinity tells me all I need to know about what you think “proves” the Trinity.

[@alanhales1123]

@asmallfarmhomestead3657 Elohim is a word that has a plural meaning. You either believe the Bible or you don't. I believe the Bible and the Biblical Hebrew and Greek, which proves the trinity. You don't believe any of them.

[@Unlimitedspeech]

I loved this so much. I love the oneness of God, oh what a revelation. ❤

[@alexanderh2345]

It really is the fountain from which all things flow. Praise God I’ve been brought into his marvelous light!

[@ASUMHThinklings]

@@Unlimitedspeech The Trinity is One God 1 John 5:7

[@donroberds6834]

In listening to you Brother Urshan .YOU remind me so much of your grandfather the late Rev Nathaniel Urshan .Lord Bless FPC NLR

[@1Lord1Faith1Baptism7]

Bro. Urshan, I’ve struggled a lot with understanding my calling, and with that doubt, the devil has tried to make me doubt God’s oneness and His existence, but every Βίβλος episode strengthens me. I’ll never forgot a message you preached at my church a couple years ago, you said something along the lines of “I remember preaching my first sermon and I ran through pages of notes within 5 minutes and I didn’t know what to say after that. But then I started glorifying God and He took care of the rest”, that has stuck with me ever since and I love watching your episodes. Thank you for allowing God to use you in this way. A family member of mine will be visiting your church soon, and I hope to go with them and meet you! God bless!

[@jenniferhorton14]

Out of the Flames by Lawrence and Nancy Goldstone and After the Way Called Heresy by Thomas Weisser are excellent books about Oneness oppression/church history. I had a supernatural encounter with the Lord sitting on a Catholic pew Father's Day 1981. In 1982 I was invited to go to church, a Oneness Pentecostal church, I never looked backed to the darkness. Hallelujah to Jesus for the light of His truth!

[@hargisP2]

Is there any teaching of the Book After The Way Called Heresy?

[@bobjames3748]

Some good books by Dr. Clinton Willis Apostolic CATHECHISM, The one true God., On Amazon or Lulu. Jason Weatherly Baptism One is great. Larry Tate has 3 good books, one a debate book Oneness vs the Trinity and Jerry Hayes has The Godhead Theology Modalism the True Orthodoxy. Also The Godhead Discussion ( harder to find).

[@alexanderh2345]

Thank you for the book recommendations. I read Out of the Flames and it was amazing!

[@braesteel2791]

YES THIS IS SO GOOD!!! Info I did not know and I’m so blessed this is AWESOME!!! Powerful ! Thank you Jesus for the truth 🙌🙌

[@Yanda-e5l]

Thank my brother for such great teaching

[@ERLong-ww7yn]

I've believed in the oneness forever, but I just sat through this entire video spellbound. This is a masterpiece.

[@Post-Trib]

"The doctrine of one God is the oldest doctrine known to man. It's as old as God himself."~Lee Stoneking

[@sh4dow2788]

Isn't God supposed to be faithful to carry on the truth through all time? If oneness fell off wouldn't that mean something?

[@Post-Trib]

@@sh4dow2788 he is and has. God's doctrine is one. As in an absolute numerical one. The trinity was invented in about 200AD by Tertullian

[@Wohnn]

The oneness doctrine isn’t just the doctrine of one God, it includes more idealisticly than that, you have to take the doctrine of one god and apply it the the whole Bible, and it doesn’t fit a lot of the time if you try to do that.

[@Post-Trib]

@Wohnn explain this in more detail and provide scripture because speaking in broad generalities without specifics doesn't mean anything. So, elaborate

[@Wohnn]

@@Post-Trib you know what the oneness doctrine is I assume? The belief that the son is the father in the flesh. It’s different than just believing in one God, that would be a more agnostic belief than the oneness doctrine, which requires Christ in the flesh. Is all I was meaning, lol

[@walterjamesiii1761]

Amen Pastor Urshan!!! Another great and well done scholarly session on the Oneness of God!!! The historical info you provided and your manner of presentation should cause an honest-hearted trinitarian to dig deeper into the Bible to determine which concept (Oneness or Trinitarianism) the Scriptures support. Tradition can be a powerful force to overcome but a sincere and diligent truth seeker will be directed by God to the true revelation of the Godhead. Hopefully God will turn the force of their opposition to Truth into a force of defense for Truth as He did when He converted Saul to the Apostle Paul in the New Testament.

[@radicalwillo4494]

Great response. I love how you articulate everything and give a brief historical (summary). I love the Servetus Orthodoxy. "The devil hates the ones of God just like Calvin does. The spirit of Calvinism still exists. Thank you Pastor Ushan for this session! Very much edifying. Deut 6:4

[@adamsalinas82]

An excellent presentation of Oneness Pentecostalism, which is the only view that has full scriptural support for its core doctrines.

[@Mcmiller842]

I love teaching like this. I can listen for hours.

[@craigmccracken6075]

This is very informative and rich. Thank you for this awesome teaching!

[@robertstewart4063]

Very well done. Thank you for the presentation.

[@lourdiadevalon9653]

I'm a believer of the ONENESS and 🙏🙏🙏

[@ericstreetinc]

Absolutely WONDERFUL!!!!!…and TRUE!!

[@FoundationBibleStudies]

Great breakdown! Praise God🙌

[@walterjamesiii1761]

I want to thank Leslie who commented and mentioned the David Bernard and Gene Cook debate on Oneness vs. Trinitarianism. I was unaware of it and have just listened to it; it was a very good and professional debate that dove deeper into the topic and addresses many questions that Trinitarians use in opposition to Oneness theology.

[@bobjames3748]

Yes and they caught Gene Cook saying he didn't say what Trinitarians say and yet in the debate did, believe 3 separate and distinct persons.

[@frank6550]

FANTASTIC!!!

[@diannagrizzle6370]

Thank you so much for these amazing podcasts!!

[@irmabrizuela1293]

Excellent podcast!!!!

[@LarryNewbern]

“Out of the Flames” great book.

[@Post-Trib]

How are the Roman Catholics, Calvinists and Lutherans any different or better than Muslims, Nazis and Communists who burned books and killed their opponents to assert their power?

[@marlenewright4136]

Thanks God this message came on the phone because I always question where's the books or commentary on the oneness of God, so interesting thanks for sharing be blessed.

[@bobjames3748]

I believe God intended us to have the Bible and that alone to defend ourselves over 2000 yrs. We now have great writings by Scholars and Ministers.

[@joshuapearson9950]

Great work Brother! There is still only one God and all the fullness of the Godhead dwells bodily in Jesus (Deut. 6:4, Colossians 2:9)!

[@realmccoy124]

Very good verses that are included in the Nicene Creed and partly establishes the True Faith. These verses are part of Trinitarian Dogma - are believed on by Christians - are recited in Community… are foundational in their Christology, Theology, and Soteriology. These verses are part of one’s private prayer rule, and are expressed in brotherly love and Christian piety in the commonality of the True Faith. And yet, the vlogger - who is hyper focused on Rome and her Innovations that led her away Orthodox, seems to lump anyone who doesn’t agree with him … is diabolical… which is a cultural norm for Oneness Pentecostalism.

[@anonymous.3458]

​@@realmccoy124There is no verse in the Bible that describes a Trinity in any way similar to how trinitarians currently believe. Where do you get the belief in the Trinity? Baptism was even originally performed in Jesus name in the early Catholic Church, which is openly admitted by Catholic historians. We as Apostolics believe that the doctrine of the Trinity was introduced into the church by Platonic believers who assumed that God couldn't come to Earth himself. Where do you get your origin for the Trinity?

[@hargisP2]

⁠​⁠@@realmccoy124. You are the one that is diabolical against others that don’t agree with you. If you see those verses as a reference to the trinity it is definite proof that you have a serious reading problem. You will only see Jesus in heaven, not two others. And yet you and other trinitarians believe that Jesus can be one person that fulfills many roles, King of Kings, Lord of Lords, High Priest, Son of David, Lion of the tribe of Judah, Prince of Peace etc. You are a modalist.

[@KellyRice-o5x]

I won't argue the word because truth always comes out into the light. It's everyone else that gets loud and think there right.

[@A.I_Boogie]

“In their pointy little boots” 🤣🤣

[@diegovisoso4587]

I learned a lot today, gracias.

[@lindahood9854]

I Love These Teachings. I Love Biblos Network And First Pentecostal Church In Durham NC

[@jesseC0806]

Hallelujah!

[@Mikael-70x7]

oneness Christian here, Halleluiah.

[@garycornwell2431]

Great teaching my brother in the LORD Jesus, I believe in my heart in the Oneness of GOD and I thank you once again for your teachings, may GOD'S peace be upon you and I pray this in the mighty name of my LORD Jesus, hallelujah!

[@KellyRice-o5x]

Is there anyway to be able to read Michael Servitas book?

[@ralphowen3367]

The historian Roland Bainton wrote a book on Servitus, or at least including his account.

[@bobjames3748]

Hunted Heretics he also wrote a general easy reading book The Church of our Fathers , A high school level and yet very good.

[@bobjames3748]

Hunted Heretic

[@ralphowen3367]

@bobjames3748 Yes, and a previous reader scribbled on the inside front cover a caricature of a figure he signed Harry the Heretic.

[@nickkkk495]

Love this message

[@ronniemiller9762]

It all started for me about 27 years ago.... I started reading the Bible.... I stopped eating... Had never been to a church.... I was shocked.... Oh my God!! Jesus is the GOD of Israel !!! I was like... That's crazy!! I repented of my sins.... I remember asking he ... Please don't let me be misled.... I want to serve you..... He led me to this Church.... I was baptized in HIS NAME..... I received the HOLY GHOST..... Praise God... I'm still at that church today.... People.... There's only one GOD..... And his name is JESUS!

[@audreyfletcher9255]

Wow, thinking of someone else who uses christianity as a guise for governmental power. Hmmm, not the main point of your blog, just had to throw it in the pod. Love Biblos, great to keep the communication lines open. My late mom would have been a great co-host on this topic😅thanks in part to your grandparents.

[@discipleinlight]

Is there reference that Sabellius taught baptism in Jesus name? That he taught tongues follow the Holy Spirit baptism? I could really use it in my discussions with the Trins.

[@ralphowen3367]

Apparently, Servitus communicated by letter to Calvin and used rough language to get his point across. Calvin never forgot the furious rebukes, and later Servitus made the mistake of passing through Geneva where he was taken captive by the Calvinists and by the nod from Calvin was burned at the stake. On the stake he was told to cofess that Jesus was the eternal son of God. But Servitus refused and instead said that Jesus was the son of the eternal God.

[@bubbacheese3929]

Great message, could you share some of your citations or references? I looked up Abelar and I’m not sure where you found all of that info.

[@TheBiblosNetwork]

Type Peter Abelard into google. Wikipedia has a simple article on him. There are more in depth sources on Amazon. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Abelard

[@philos_theos]

I appreciate the discussion. Mr. Urshan, early in your talk you linked those who had a modalistic understanding of God to also hold to the contemporary soteriology of Oneness Pentecostals. Is there any evidence you can provide for this?

[@bobjames3748]

Monarchian is the common term that they were holding according to Tertullian and Hippolytus. Monotheism Bible an in 2nd and 3rd centuries over history. We today called Oneness hold the same one God truth, Jesus is God and Father incarnated in the flesh of the Christ and we see that these men held Jesus name baptism. Apostolic CATHECHISM by Dr. Clinton Willis or Jerry Hayes Godhead Theology show many quotes of what Monarchians taught and we teach under the name Oneness.

[@FoundationBibleStudies]

I'm going to eventually make a video like this for my channel as well.

[@margaritanava77]

Is there a support system for oneness writers. If you could redirect me to a book coach, editor or beta reader I would so appreciate it.

[@shaunbutler238]

Apostolic Review is a good starting place

[@margaritanava77]

I think it only reviews books but does not offer agents to writers. I know there are alot out there but I was hoping to stay within our community since Oneness has a unique approach. Thank you for your reply. God bless you. @@shaunbutler238

[@williambrown8978]

I remember after I got baptized in Jesus name.i saw the scripture where Jesus told phillip.when you see me you've seen the father.i know him! His name shall be called wonderful.counselor.the mighty God. The everlasting father! But his name is jesus!

[@kode.7637]

Besides some books, all I have from you is "dude trust me"

[@bobjames3748]

We must look at and see writings from the Post Apostolic period like Melito's Paschal or Mathetes, Ireneaus, as well Ignatius Anand Clement for possible lineage in 1st and 2nd centuries, Oneness people don't know much about these or care to thinking they are all wrong, error, not scripture. ( Do they read other writings not scripture, like Hardy Boys or Lord of the Rings or War Books, Gardening books? Open your mind, Ignatius and Melito appear to be Oneness as well as others .

[@anthonybardsley4985]

One Lord One faith, One Baptism (spirit not water) unless you practice 2.

[@ralphowen3367]

Bainton writes that Calvin wrote the authorities in France to have Servitud censured.

[@KellyRice-o5x]

I understand why now the importance of hiding the word in our hearts. I think of all the oneness books burned. Also to discern truth from false

[@HistoryOfNationsTV]

18:00 1 John 5:7 KJV (Unless you throw out/ignore/explain away Scripture that disagrees with you)

[@healedfree706]

For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. I Jn 5:7 Isaiah 9:6; Jn 10:30; Jn 1:14; Read the Bible through many times. One is mentioned in description of God all over. Deut 6:4 It was spoken by the Jews regularly. But the words triune, Trinity, 3 separate persons are never mentioned in the Bible anywhere.

[@HistoryOfNationsTV]

Because the word Trinity is a combination of Tri (three) - Unity (One being)@@healedfree706

[@Historylover94]

Let me add to this Matt 28:19 Jesus to baptize in the name of the Father,Son, Holy Ghost well look at what Jesus said in Luke 24:46-47, John 14:16-17,17:6. The sum of all those scriptures points can be stated is this The Fathers name is Jesus which is the same for the Son and the Holy Ghost, the name of Jesus is where it all stands

[@HistoryOfNationsTV]

That's interpretation it isn't historic Christian doctrine. That's one problem with all rejection of Church authority. Adventists say you must keep the Saturday Sabbath to be saved. Baptists sinners prayer. Pentacostals Jesus name only Baptism. JW reject Jesus as God. All Bible Alone readers.@@Historylover94 I believe Jesus gave us a Church not a book (The same church you call polytheist compiled the Bible in the 4th century at synods) EDIT: We have early church documents proving the Trinitarian formula in the first century or second century (this means 33-99 and 100-199) which show they did it in triple immersion in the Trinitarian formula. Constantine was in the 4th century, and again Constantine denied the Trinity.

[@Post-Trib]

God bears witness in heaven. He bears witness on the earth as Spirit and the word. The doctrine of one God belongs to God. Never the trinity which began with Tertullian

[@CurtosiusMaximus828]

Would you be willing to debate me, sir?

[@bobjames3748]

Who or what is God in John 1:1. Who was a Trinitarian that you believe is your Fathers in the 2nd century?

[@ChrisHunterSavesTheDay]

Deuteronomy 6:4, folks. 0:00 - The Importance of Oneness Belief 3:11 - Refuting the Criticism of Oneness Apostolicism 5:51 - The Schism Between the White and Black Church 8:05 - Deviation from Orthodoxy and the Flawed Assumption of the Trinity 10:46 - The history of Trinitarian dogma 13:44 - The Voluminous Writings of Sibelius 16:19 - The Origins of Oneness Apostolicism 18:39 - Constantine's Hijacking of Christianity 21:17 - The Destruction of Oneness Literature 23:51 - The Obscurity of Servetus' Writings 26:37 - Wars in the Name of the Holy Trinity 29:00 - Threats and Suppression in History 31:15 - The Foundation of the New Jerusalem 33:23 - The Cherry-Picking of Doctrines 35:39 - The Martyrdom of Michael Servetus 38:12 - Challenging False Doctrines 40:31 - The Persecution of Michael Servetus 43:05 - The Trial and Death of Michael Servetus 45:29 - The Intellectual Battle between Calvin and Servetus 48:08 - The Martyrdom of Servetus 50:53 - The Restoration of Christianity as an Artifact 53:38 - The Legacy of Michael Servetus 56:24 - The Evolution of Beliefs and the Unchanging Word of God 58:36 - The Fullness of Christ

[@HistoryOfNationsTV]

Why would Constantine allow the Church to come to a descision he rejected? He was Arian (denies Trinity, not Oneness think Unitarian/JW denying Jesus) but the council proved him and the other non-Trinitarians wrong

[@buckeyewill2166]

When someone says we are a cult, just remember Jesus Christ, not man, is who we worship

[@Post-Trib]

​@@HistoryOfNationsTVConstantine wasn't a convert and died a pagan. He mocked God and salvation

[@Post-Trib]

​@@buckeyewill2166I just agree with them. They say we're a cult then so be it. They're an occult because they're trinitarians which is pagan

[@HistoryOfNationsTV]

I just explained he didn't believe in the Trinity, so he was not a perfect Christian (though nobody really is)@@Post-Trib Either way what source do you have that says he mocked God? Salvation?

[@realmccoy124]

For the Jews, and indeed for the first Christians, the term Lord was proper to God alone: “God is the Lord and has revealed Himself unto us” (Ps 11.8). This Lord and God is Yahweh; and it is Jesus the Messiah as well. For although Jesus claims that “the Father is greater than I” (Jn 14.28), he claims as well: “I and the Father are one” (Jn 10.30). Believing in “One Lord Jesus Christ” is the prime confession of faith for which the first Christians were willing to die. For it is the confession which claims the identity of Jesus with the Most High God.

[@frederickwilliams3319]

Also, in case you didn’t know this, the Bishop of Rome did not attend the Council of Nicea. And the Roman Catholic Church didn’t exist until the 6th century. Just for clarification.

[@HistoryOfNationsTV]

Depends on what you mean by this. The Roman Church was a part of the Catholic (Orthodox) Church as a whole, and its roots go back to the Bible. So the Orthodox Christian position is that they separated and went against God very loosely around 1054. (Reformation happens in response to more abuses like indulgences, but "Reformers" also get things wrong just like the Roman Catholics.)

[@Historylover94]

​@@HistoryOfNationsTV The Roman Catholic Church has no basis in the Bible and neither do most of the Reformation movement and I can prove strictly based upon whats based in the Bible

[@HistoryOfNationsTV]

@@Historylover94 (Not roman Catholic, I'm Orthodox but I am against false witness) First of all that's blatantly untrue if you read the verses on the Eucharist, baptismal regeneration (necessary for salvation) and all the verses in Acts about Church structure (bishops, presbyters, deacons) and the liturgical worship throughout the Bible. Secondly Bible Alone was made up by Luther! No one ever taught that the Bible is the source of the Church, the Church compiled the Bible from the Spirit-breathed writings of the Apostles

[@Post-Trib]

Agreed 👍. They didn't call themselves Roman Catholic until about 500AD

[@HistoryOfNationsTV]

The Church of Christ has called itself Catholic since 110 AD with Ignatius (who met Jesus and was taught by the Apostle John)@@Post-Trib It just means universal. Roman Catholic distinguishes the Church of Rome which we Orthodox no longer see as truly Catholic because they have changed.

[@matthewtaxcollector31617]

And let's not forget many paganist/satanic religions believed in a trinity. Even today, we still have religions that believe in this doctrine.

[@ASUMHThinklings]

Can you show us what pagan religion taught 1 God (One Being) in 3 Persons?

[@lesbyler1374]

Not trying to be confrontational ; but who ran the universe when Jesus was in Mary's womb?

[@TheBiblosNetwork]

It's a good question many people ask. God didn't stop being omnipresent at any time. He fills the universe, was in Jesus Christ and fills millions of believers currently. He doesn't stop any administration though he fulfills all these things.

[@cherylpage1111]

Don’t forget that God is Omni present, everywhere at the same time. He fills the Universe

[@Post-Trib]

Not only does God fill his creation with his presence or Spirit but all of his creation is contained within him. Nothing exists outside of God

[@pauldean8314]

The same God that can heal in America, talk in China, and deliver in Africa all at the same time.

[@juaninglis6466]

I'm not a oneness believer. However, that question puts man's limitations on the creator. God is bigger and greater than any of man's limits or understanding. Romans 1: 22 Professing to be wise, they became fools, 23 and exchanged the glory of the incorruptible God for an image in the likeness of corruptible man and of birds and four-footed animals and crawling creatures.

[@ElevationDiecastRacing]

Beautifully put elder....personally, i would never debate a trinity believer , its settled for me. I am gr8ful to know the truth

[@HistoryOfNationsTV]

Please read more into the early Church yourself rather than what a pastor tells you. God bless

[@Post-Trib]

​@HistoryOfNationsTV the early church was usurped by Tertullian and the Nicene Council in 325AD. They persecuted and martyred the monotheistic believers

[@HistoryOfNationsTV]

Cite your sources on this. I know I didn't cite all of mine but I can if you wish, though I think everything I said can be discovered through searching online/library@@Post-Trib EDIT: With backed up historical documents.

[@HistoryOfNationsTV]

I also don't want to be overly nit-picky, but Tertullian died over 100 years before the first council of Nicea. It's also true that there were bishops there (Unitarian/arian) who disagreed with the Trinity. Not sure about Modalists.@@Post-Trib

[@realmccoy124]

@@Post-Trib Tertullian was a heretic. He went out from the True Faith and became a montanist. He wasn’t part of of the Nicene Council. He died in 220AD. Christians are monotheistic. Father Son and Holy Spirit. The Trinity One in Essence AND undivided. How most Oneness Pentecostals try to say of the Doctrine is NOT what the doctrine says of itself. Usually, y’all try and explain it as tritheism…. And much like Arianism. But. That’s misrepresenting it.

[@jackalinetien2888]

PraIse the Lord Bro. Urshan ! Do you think you can do a talk about the religion THE Light of the world religion ( la Luz del mundo) they Baptist in Jesus name but do not acknowledge Jesus as God. And how it's not same as pentecostal

[@Post-Trib]

Are they unitarians then? Like the JW types?

[@jackalinetien2888]

@@Post-Trib yes

[@pauldean8314]

LA Luz De Mundo are Strong One God Believers

[@jackalinetien2888]

@@pauldean8314 actually no because they say that Jesus is just the son. We believe Jesus is the Word manifested in the flesh. The Word is God Jesus is the Word =JESUS IS GOD

[@frederickwilliams3319]

Just so you are aware, Damon Richardson is a former oneness Pentecostal preacher.

[@shaunbutler238]

Clayton Killion refuted Damon's interpretation of Acts 2:38 quite well.

[@Post-Trib]

The trinity doctrine is demonically enforced. While you're debating or arguing with them to persuade, that spirit is trying to do the same to you

[@briancupchurch]

@@shaunbutler238where is this video

[@ralphowen3367]

The Pilgrims however, were not oneness as much as they were trinity. As well, the Pilgrims and Puritans held that the Mosaic law was to be kept by even non-Jews. But the bible teaches ( Acts 15) that the Mosaic Law was for the Jews.

[@berniepenner6204]

at 54:00 (approx.) the entire world was plunged into a "renewed" darkness and dearth losing the writings the proved Creation and wonders of this body as God created it and not the product of organic evolution.

[@berthalime5517]

RIALTO, CALIFORNIA

[@titus3765]

where's "Oneness" in the Bible. God is One, not "oneness" ... by definition, oneness implies "unity or the fact or state of being unified or whole, though comprised of two or more parts." Cambridge Dictionary has "a state of being joined as one thing, and no longer separate -- the oneness of man and nature" .. I know you mean "One" but maybe "Oneness" isn't the most accurate word: "ONENESS" in the KJV Bible Modify Search Similar words: No Results.

[@anneviggiano3801]

Hi there. True. The term “oneness” doesn’t appear in Scripture. I like the response Biblos wrote below: it is a “word designation” that may include a group of elements used , to define a single principle.

[@paulmramireziii8071]

Where does the word apostolic come from Upon your research you will find it came from Rome Catholic Apostolic

[@TheBiblosNetwork]

Indeed. Apostolic is simply a name designation meaning "like the apostles". There are many such words that the Roman church took as their own. The original church was markedly different than what emerged several hundred years later.

[@realmccoy124]

Apostolos is not Latin. It is Greek. It means ‘Sent Ones’. In the Divine Liturgy, the Reader is sent out by the priest to read the appointed scriptures for the day as prescribed by the Lectionary. The book he read from is called the ‘Apostolos’… here is where Oneness Folks like to distort Truth to support their fictional narrative: “They don’t even have the entire Bible”. The Apostolos only has the the Acts and the Epistles. The Reader chants the Epistles readings to the Faithful - as that’s the only reason why he was sent. The Nicene Creed - affirms only One Church - it’s catholicity - meaning every tribe, kindred, and nation - universal… and its apostolicity - in that it is built upon and has preserved the teachings of the Apostles as it was once delivered. The word Apostolic is intentionally used to describe the Church - in that she is mystical. She exists outside of time in the perpetual state of ‘now-ness’… as well as she is present this this world, but is not of the world… She is sent to participate in God’s redemptive work in all of the Cosmos. Don’t confuse catholic - with the Roman church.

[@Wohnn]

If you believe in the doctrine of oneness can you please explain to me Matthew 3:16-17, and tell me how that’s only the father, or only the son and not both of them together in the same passages

[@bobjames3748]

Distinction in Jesus in his roles or modes of existence as Father (Spirit) and Son ( human). God is not a person like us in mankind. God is Spirit, invisible, God gave voice to his presence, but no being like us was in heaven speaking, but God did speak about his only begotten in the water, the 100% man of flesh and bones and blood. God was though not just around him, in heaven, but was IN HIM!!! THE MAN IN The WATER WAS THE Body OF Jesus, HIS BODY THE Christ . The Holy Spirit was shown in a vision like a dove for a visible manifestation for John .

[@Wohnn]

@ appreciate the reply, if the spirit of God, in the passage, or the (Holy Spirit) is descending upon him, where does it descend from, and from who. I think the answer is simple. The spirit is descending from the father, that is in heaven, as Jesus tells us he is in heaven multiple times throughout scripture.

[@Wohnn]

@ I’m a bit confused, are you saying Christ is the spirit, the son, and the father?

[@CurtosiusMaximus828]

Ok. So this is why historical fact checking is important His claim; Sabellius taught “true” Christianity, and “the power of Rome came against him”. The problem with this claim; Christianity wouldn’t be legal in Rome for another 80-100 years AFTER Sabellius. In fact, the worst of Christian persecution from the Roman empire against Christians was yet to come. Sebellius was spreading his ideas around 215AD. The worst persecution of Christians by the Roman empire was under Emperor Augustus Diocletian from 283-305. Christianity wouldn’t be tolerated until the edict of Milan which was issued in 313AD. So, why is this man saying that the “power of Rome” is what came against sebellius? Thats obviously not true. The truth is, Sebellius was teaching something that was different from what had been passed down by the Apostles to their successors, and their successors (Catholic Bishops) were correcting his errors ENTIRELY independent of Rome which was still hostile to the Christian faith.

[@kevinconnelly6075]

It's true Rome didn't accept Christianity until the Edict of Milan officially. Greco Roman thought had already inflitrated. Tertullian is a prime example. Rev. Urshan isn't claiming they resisted the man Sabellius. They resisted Sabellianism which was the majority of Christian believers at the time. Here's a quote from Tertullian: "the "simple" who always constitute the majority of believers are often startled at the idea that the One God exists in three and were opposed to his understanding of "the rule of faith."

[@kevinconnelly6075]

Sabellius was contending for the same thing the Apostles taught. That had fallen out of favor with the growing Greco Roman apologists that were being diluted with Romish philosophy. By the time Constantine hijacked Christianity the apostasy was complete. 325 AD Christianity looked nothing like Day of Pentecost Christianity. That is a historical fact and it is exactly what Rev. Urshan teaches. PS You would lose badly in a debate with him.

[@CurtosiusMaximus828]

@@kevinconnelly6075 your comment is nothing more than a delusional assertion that has no basis whatsoever in reality. You have zero evidence to back what you just said lol. And no, I would win spectacularly in a debate against this guy because I’m on the side of God, of truth, and I’m a member of His One and only Church. And all the evidence is with me. Which is why he didn’t respond to me. He knows better than to go up against scrutiny. Has he ever accepted a challenge from anyone before? Probably not. Typical of false teachers.

[@ogmakefirefiregood]

Hey everyone! You guys believe in God, right? Believe also in me!

[@benjaminwilson869]

Bro Urshan I respect you, and I am a lifelong Oneness believer, member of the UPC but sir this sounds too much like personal experience and argument. To be credible, we must be able to cite sources and prove it out through Scripture correct? I just feel that this methodology is not effective to someone who is searching for answers, for the truth.

[@johnsmithSongbird]

The origin is the Deuteronomy 6.4 Isaiah 43.10 others Jesus came Isaiah 9.6 And the apostles knew he was son of God God in flesh Jesus never taught trinity nor did any apostles The trinity form appear 200 a.d And is total confusion To know Jesus is eternal life Be born of water and Spirit Is essential to salvation

[@Post-Trib]

Where are the one God writers? God hinself to begin with. God then converted Abraham. The Jews have all been one God monotheistic writers ever since. The Roman Catholics, Calvin and Luther were no different than the Muslims, Nazis and so many others who burned books and people in order to assert their power.

[@realmccoy124]

Funny - the only book burning event I’ve been to was with Oneness Pentecostals. .. I guess they’re no different than Muslims and Nazis and Calvinists… etc - when attempting to assert their elitism in the world.

[@Post-Trib]

@realmccoy124 what type of books were they burning? Their own books to show repentance from dead works and secularism or occultism? What's the answer ?

[@realmccoy124]

@@Post-Trib - they were burning books deemed contrary to their unique belief system… it was drummed up to make a spectacle so it would make it on local media - you know, for ‘witnessing’.

[@Post-Trib]

@realmccoy124 what's the proof outside of your personal opinion?

[@joannebeerens6206]

Plain, ANTICHRIST. the apostles warned about it..

[@realmccoy124]

Hi. You have many factual statements, but are misleading (whether intentional or not). You mention several folks - many of whom are rejected as Heretics - and speak of them as Trinitarians… Sabellius, Tertullian, Arius, and Origen were rejected for very specific reasons, by their Bishops. And oddly enough, you’re asserting the Doctrine of the Trinity was codified 100 years after the rise of Sabellius teachings. How could he reject by something that wasn’t codified yet? Complete conjecture - that Sabellius wrote volumes. If none of his writings exist, then it is speculation and gut-feels. Hippolytus was fiercely against him - that is true. Tertullian was booted out. And Arius spoke against his Bishop, claiming he was a Sabellian. The Bible wasn’t compiled and codified until the 5th Century. Why would those diabolical Trinitarians codify something that would be against the tenants of the Faith? Such an illogical position. Sabellianism is considered a Trinitarian doctrine that focused and distorted Jn 10:35. Assertion. The Trinitarian doctrines was massaged and changed more and more over time. But the vlogger fails to state when those latter changes occurred, what was changed, and who made the changes, and whether or not those changes were conciliatory or not. Some of the later changes were done by Rome, by herself. The vlogger seems to buy in with the notion that Rome ruled the roost. The seven church councils … Rome was a bishop of equals. Rome May purport herself as Supreme…. But the papacy’s claim was never accepted… and to this day, rejected. The Nicene Creed is exact in its wording - at it was dogmatized - it remains. Any deviation from the Creed is an innovation. Rome innovated. Father, Son, and Holy Spirit - the Trinity - One in essence AND undivided. Jesus is fully God and Fully Man. He is not created. He is not subordinate. But like most oneness Pentecostals folks like to do - is to reject because grand daddy said so… and have never actually studied what the Dogma says… and often misrepresent what is expressly and exactly worded - confusing it with a lot of crazy stuff that isn’t found in it’s wording. I guess I would be upset too, if my teaching was rejected in the 3rd Century - by a non-codified teaching that didn’t exist until the 4th Century… I once rejected those Councils too, because they had ‘rejected me’… until I studied them in depth and I found out how inerrant things were in the Camp I left behind. One Essence AND Undivided. Not three gods. Not subordinate. The Son existed before all ages…. The enmity between God and man - exists because of the actions of man… not by the actions of God. Therefore, we excommunicate ourselves when we walk disorderly… and neglect our salvation… and teach against the Holy Tradition of Scripture. You can’t teach something that’s not found in the Bible… I don’t see a verse that shows us that Paul spoke in tongues at his conversion. Nor do I see him teaching that one had to speak in tongues … in Gal Eph Phil … etc. Anyhow, thanks for the good study today. I had fun researching information about the things you mentioned. As your soul prospers. Lee.

[@ralphowen3367]

I did not know that Calvin had millions executed.

[@bobjames3748]

He did not have millions murdered. Catholics did, Protestants had 100's of thousands murdered,in Geneva Servetus and at least up other were murdered. Protestants used burning, drowning, stabbing, beheading,but not limited to those.

[@CurtosiusMaximus828]

I’m Roman Catholic. A friend shared this. So…. Yeah… we believe God is one. A belief in the Holy Trinity is NOT a belief that God isn’t one.

[@ohhoney64ss40]

Does the Doctrine of the trinity believe that there are 3 persons in the god head?

[@CurtosiusMaximus828]

@@ohhoney64ss40 yes. But that’s not the same as “three gods”. Three persons, ONE God

[@bobjames3748]

It is a belief they say in One God as three, not One God is One.

[@bobjames3748]

​@@CurtosiusMaximus828Absolutely the same, it is the same ole doctrine of three god/gods from antiquities with new title names for there Paganistic Godhead...your idea.

[@CurtosiusMaximus828]

@@bobjames3748 show me one “god of antiquity” that is a single trinitarian god. I’ll wait.

[@jonathanrocha2275]

This is a sickness

[@jamesmoore768]

Are their any copies of the book!