Where did all the zombies go? Then vs. Now in 7 Days to Die

[@B8llie0]

It had a magical aura of being nowhere just surviving

[@familyfishingadventures4685]

i remember watching meaty play this before it came to console. I was obsessed with this game. When it finally came to console it was in alpha 13 and it only got updated to alpha 18 but it still was tuff as hell. I remember getting started was always the hardest part. Now after getting the new version on console it’s like a little bit easier loot wise. Still love it tho

[@mr_spartan2413]

that old female grunt noise was somethin huh

[@MrDoyle-ky4he]

I actually miss the wellness system: I felt like it made sense to be healthier and stronger for not getting struck and eating proper meals regularly.

[@deadmanreborn6753]

i miss the older ones sometimes

[@skylerbenoit1103]

10:05 Actually, that’s a Mossberg 590. The Remington 870 weren’t built with the top-mounted safety switch.

[@G700myDr1nk]

🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓 ( that's cool thanks for sharing)

[@FedkaSlovanich]

i hate how the zombies destroy a path to you, i miss when during horde night they would buzzdoze towards you, now you kinda have to make a killbox

[@yukioacumora4430]

I have to say, i REALLY miss the vertical status bars. My favorite iteration of yiur characterics needs in 7 days by far. Least favorite os probabky the map and the cardinal status sections.

[@madmick6275]

The old school shotgun looks and sounds better than the current version.

[@jonnil6072]

i miss the old days !

[@anthonybachler9526]

6:10 Born & Noble is a play on Barnes and Noble, a popular book store chain that sadly went bankrupt.

[@redangel6217]

I miss how towns looked like at 11:34 ngl, i wish they improved on that since it makes sense there's gonna be more greenery everywhere now that there's no people alive basically.

[@Valid90]

Hate that hospital. Had my entire entire inventory turn into motorbike parts while i was there. Lost everything i owned but got a duplicate bike of the one i was driving

[@kanex1]

The soundtrack in the alpha 11 menu is called 28 days later

[@ChrissieBear]

2:08 No, actually. I only recognized it from back then. That old Alpha 10 barn is a core memory of mine, but the modern one is just background noise.

[@thelaughingmanofficial]

Are you using a mod or is the UI really that bad?

[@whiteraven550]

The A10 female damage sound tho

[@josephmasloski4962]

I was thinking the same thing. Very suggestive. 🤣

[@whiteraven550]

@@josephmasloski4962 "You know how women so, right?" TFP : *Nervously sweating* "Of cause! I'm a programmer. I know many womens"

[@FlyLeah]

As a female i can confirm thats the sound made when stubbing my toe

[@JasonLihani]

13:57 World War Z is SUCH a good book, but it's actually one of the few books I recommend in audiobook form. It's narrated by a full cast of voice actors and is super Immersive. It's nothing at all like the movie. (full audiobook is on KZbin right now)

[@soruyolv]

2:20 nice 😏

[@zerrierslizer1]

what i really miss are the HUGE Mutated Bees. those things were Freaky, hit like a truck but killing them Yielded Honey. i miss them so much...

[@bartomolev6682]

damn... you just brought back so many memories, ah... how i miss the good old days when you could build a wall wih undestroyable chests, hide underground, OHHHH! the old crafting system, the big pretty bases with walls and spikes instead of some META AFK base

[@sicknsaneofficial8646]

@@zerrierslizer1 There's a mod that adds them back into the game 🙃

[@Dootium]

0:13 Fundamentally wrong, Project Zomboid 100%!

[@GunsNerdsandSteel]

Oh my bad, thank you so much for correcting me 😁👍

[@mazush1681]

@@Dootium fr pz is the best

[@SuperSpeed21]

When I die to the hored in a21 the hored goes away. But in a20 they would still be there to hunt me down.

[@DogCat21280]

Maybe they need to update the tree spawns so they don’t grow in building 3:31

[@redtsun67]

A19 is the update that really killed the game for me. Adding scaling loot system to POIs killed my immersion and ruined the scavenger playstyle.

[@metronicmagician1816]

As someone that played mostly in the early days of this game (like right when it released on steam) it’s interesting seeing it again like this. I distinctly remember having a lot of fun huddling in a corner of a random attic with friends as we shot the shit waiting for daytime all in an effort to get to the wasteland as fast as possible so we could get to the capital building (I believe that’s what it was called) because there was a random empty space under the roof that we’d use as a bunker. Beyond actually making a base for yourself it was the single best spot to live for safety since literally nothing could get you there, and was high up enough all you had to worry about were the flying enemies. Damn what a vastly different time and game

[@mrg1495]

You could also eat vitamin pills to get wellness back since they have no negative and no requirement to use them

[@Ugbug]

The gore block is really interesting. It looks wack in the early version but making the gore blocks expand/ fill in gradually as partial blocks would be a really cool feature to bring back.

[@jollykirby2138]

you could loot zombies in this gen too, dont forget and yeah, dogs always used to be just guaranteed death at this tier, you actually had to be quiet/stealthy instead of going "oh, theres no zombies outside of a POI, doy" as well as harvest meat/bones/flesh from all zombies

[@ChrissieBear]

5:55 My ex would call those the voices of the wendigos.

[@EnchantedSmellyWolf]

12:16 I can never get tired of those cute Doberman Pinscher when they attack. In stead of biting they scratch attack you instead. Don't know why, maybe they are trying to infect you by leaving some skim opened. 😊❤🐕

[@mofkergt]

2:21 i couldnt get markiplier fiber optic cable out of my head

[@alaskan_bigfoot9090]

Im honestly not a huge fan of the new POI spawn system, it feels very non organic when zombies pop into existence after you get a certain distance into a building, it felt more immersive when you had to be quiet going through town so that you didnt start pulling zombies from all over.

[@fusrosandvich3738]

It also means that certain play styles are completely canned. I had a time when I decided to break through a wall using explosives instead of use the usual entrance and proceeded to have all the zombies spawn on top of me. In the old system i'dve woken them all up and been able to fight them from my chosen spot, now you're just purposefully walking into a monster closet.

[@leonidaspereirafilho499]

Sre there any mods that add this zombie spawn system in cities back to the games?

[@TheKruxed]

I just found this out having just started playing, I chose a stealth style with points into that and it took a while but started to notice you can't actually stealth the game. Zombies can hear through anything, zombies get spawned in ontop of you, some are triggered by you moving onto a pre arranged location. Now after adjusting that play style to just blow everything up Murica style to progress through the game I'm now encountering screamers spawning 24/7 ontop of my base because they magically know I am eating my steak under 1/2 a mile of solid rock. Its a real disappointment that the core design of the game is done in a lacklustre and unintelligent manner, like the god awful skill book system

[@keanukoren6109]

Not sure what game your playing, but zombies definitely dont just spawn in and you can still sneak into POIs without alarming everything lmao

[@BigFootTheRealOne]

@@keanukoren6109 alot of people ive seen as well as youtuber forgot this is a sandbox. Go around, do a different entrence

[@Tabby_Angela]

Am i the only one that thinks the vegetation looked more realistic in the older versions? Those cacti looked so much better then.

[@Markgaarden]

i love how it terns into a horror game at night

[@ainmhidh1154]

Man i loved the gore block system. It made it so your walls weren't invincible without turning the zombies into auger hands or structural engineers.

[@ohmanthatguy2443]

10 years. Still not done yet. Crazy.

[@og_skullkid1387]

7 months later this game looks so much better

[@ehenningsen]

The difference in graphics fidelity is really something

[@vasilmandzharov1874]

At 9:02 the music really reminds me of the 28 days later and 28 weeks later movies. That's just a perfect fit.

[@CassidyxK]

I really like the old UI

[@michaelfarrell4824]

Been playing since alpha 8. What a ride

[@UmbrasMercy]

Just a shame console was left forgotten and abandoned. Would have been so nice to play on new gen lol.

[@lordpotoo5285]

They're going to be putting out a new console version :D (you do have to pay for it again iirc, because telltale owns the other version or something like that)

[@StarlitSunLight]

I remember playing 7 days to die in 2014 or 2015 with my brother and we both made mini bikes for the first time. We were so excited to finally have transporation other than walking. Anyways, we were in the desert biome at that time and I drove off the road because it was faster to get to the area than taking the road, and I kid you not there was a 1 block decline and my minibike fell through the map and I blew up.

[@jeffrobagman2834]

I kind of like that higher zed population. Like being in a city, but out in nowhere.

[@Adrian-cw8yu]

It is way better than the barren boring game we have now with the 99% sleepers zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[@Nobody-zn3yv]

@@Adrian-cw8yu Yeah as much as I like the poi's and how it's more intuitive for the zombies to be sleeping so they're not just wandering, breaking the environment, it does get rid of the whole feeling of a zombie apocalypse that "random hordes" just doesn't fix.

[@XxSoGRAMBOxX]

And the gore blocks so they can sort of climb the dead bodies to get to you is so cool too. They got rid of some good features. I miss the Iron frame blocks. I always have to turn the zombie spawning xml up myself

[@shadowproductions969]

luckily there's mods to turn that way up.. I am playing on triple zombie, 10x wandering hordes and "ultra infested" pois for a real challenge

[@jeffrobagman2834]

@shadowproductions969 I do some overhaul mods through mod launcher, but I don't usually do individual mods. May need to look into some, as Tem highlights a lot of great ones every 6 months or so. I think an interesting solution could be to spawn / mark a much higher percentage at game launch. Basically nodes that would spawn the first time you got within X distance (just outside visual range), then disable the node so it's one time only. This would simulate a larger pre-existing population the player needs to thin out. The periodic 'standard' spawns would represent beds coming out of boltholes, POIs, etc. This would really help sell the lone survivor vibe. When (A22 hopefully) we get bandits and raiders, then those areas could just have the existing spawns - as the raiders have cleared out the big herds for their own protection. Of course raiders with guns would, theoretically, be a bigger threat to the player...

[@Kaury3621]

old 7dtd are just kinda nostalgic

[@arjunashokkumar]

It seems to me more and more as you go through the old versions that Darkness Falls is just an amalgamation of all the good features of old alphas that got removed

[@jsomeone9226]

That's why I prefer it and hope Khaine makes a version of it when 7 Days has its final version

[@zerrierslizer1]

@@jsomeone9226 he will. knowing the dude, he is basically waiting for every little update to make it compatible, and maybe even adding some things as well. aint many modders as dedicated as he is.

[@DarknessInferno15]

Love that this is supposed to be nostalgia and I'm just like "looks just like the current console version."

[@bpopa27]

Love A11 trees, ambient sound and main theme ... nostalgia dose!

[@berniemcfadden9122]

God i remember dogs used to be instant death back in these versions, they always came in packs and melee was not an option

[@ramblingbadger]

Yep, I play this with my wife and the call of "dog! dog! dog!" usually meant instadeath 🙂

[@Raven9010th]

Yeah! And there would be screamer zombies scouting for you, just waiting to spawn in hordes. Those were the days.

[@StoicNatsoc]

i seemed to always found myself fortunate by accident whenever a dog horde spawned, either i was on the second floor on some random building, the attic, or just returning to base. i have monstrous luck in this game, things always go according to what i want.

[@thephoenixflys]

man i played on ps4 and those dudes would juke bullets your best bet was to see if you could get high up and take pot shots at them

[@TheInfectiousCadaver]

or when they had bears added. the thing is like 4x the size of a regular doorway but went right through no issue.

[@fraaancooo]

0:45 🤣 omfg! as we say here in Brazil: "rachei o bico"

[@sten9596]

wouldn't want to get hurt in the old version when playing with speakers

[@harlandirgewood7676]

I remember old 7 Days.. Some friends and I made a big base and a major update caused a bunch of blocks in our base to become trees! Fun times. I don't miss how much grinding you had to do to get competent at anything.

[@Fierysaint1]

Anyone ever find a mod for this music? 9:11

[@Dann-qp2uw]

Yeah FP are idiots. They said they lowered the zed count to make it easier to run. But they have an option for how many zeds on horde night but not world zeds??? Also they have a post on how to change the game files to add more zeds but don’t just make it an ingame option.

[@Thetrue777luck777]

I miss many things from early game, the GPS that let's see zombies nearby that got removed because of the crybabies saying that it was nor realistic, the crossbow that you could craft with wood and fiber and had no fall down on the bolts,i miss that the zombies could run in dark places not only at night and when lights would make zombies slower at night. I miss spider zombie been able to climb walls,i miss when you could learn by doing instead perks and books, especially now because the new skill book system is super boring,because it forces you to explore to even be able to make a forge. Before i could just spawn in a forest and never go to a city and you could make a base before you go exploring, but now you can't even make iron tools if you don't have the skill books,also some stuff take 100 skill books to unlock, which is just stupid it should be ONE book for each level, and even if you find all 100 books you can't craft level 6 stuff,many times i found level 6 stuff in boxes before i could even craft level 3 of some guns and armor. Also they don't give us a bigger backpack which would be much better than that drone that keeps getting in the way and only tells you that there's a zombie near after the zombie notices you.

[@peterpalmer2429]

They really sh*t the bed haven’t they? Man i miss living in the woods in 7d2d now its actually impossible

[@ZeusFromFortnite]

Dumpster fire?? Thats the newest version on xbox

[@AlexHerrera-wk6lq]

My personal favorite version is alpha 1.15.2, seeing how far the game has come has definitely gave me perspective!

[@liastaob]

Honestly, World War Z wasn't a terrible movie, they just shouldn't have called it World War Z, since it had nothing to do with the novel. Would you believe the guy who wrote World War Z is now writing Minecraft novels? My son loves them.

[@Neyheshi]

Song at 01:15?

[@florinkin1993]

Now every single POI its filed with spleeping zombies......

[@IndustrialBonecraft]

I remember when it had cube terrain.

[@etiennejansevanveuren5282]

i still feel alpha 16 was the best this game had but then instead of expanding on what they had they made it into a completely different game like quests are sick and the new poi system would be sick if it didn't work that way for every single poi it would be nice if a house was just a house and didn't have a underground military bunker for no reason then the house right next to it also has a bunker but very slightly different honestly the most immersion breaking moments are when you go through four houses and each of them play like a skyrim dungeon and all of them have the craziest shit in them also fuck the weird weight system like give me either a inventory that has a weight limit or one that has a slot limit hate having both then also not being able to loot every zombie kinda sucks they could have given all zombies a loot pool thats fairly basic like they only drop clothes and some fairly common items with a low chance of dropping something better and a even lower chance of dropping a loot bag with some really good shit in it. i feel like in conclusion use a combination of all of these things please like have the poi dungeons but make them more special by making them more rare that way they are more fun and not tedious then stop changing shit that don't need to be changed like the inventory system and lastly instead of doing shit like changing the perk system for the 80th time add new and interesting traps and add back the old hunting rifle the new one looks like ass. i have more but i have already wrote a essay also fuck the new farming system that shit sucks.

[@peterpalmer2429]

Agreed man you nailed it the devs just ruin shit that doesn’t need to be ruined especially the perks and the zombie ai remember when you could have a cool ass base that wasn’t a staircase with a hallway on top or remember when you could use a melee weapon more than two times before being winded

[@etiennejansevanveuren5282]

yeah i miss being able to plan a interesting base all we do now is fuck with the zombies ai i feel like it was much better when the ai was "dumb" but like thats what zombies would do they wouldn't know exactly where the weak points of the base were they would just try to get in they aren't sun tzu but yeah imma go install alpha 16 and enjoy the glory days@@peterpalmer2429

[@CircularMirror7]

I miss the hunger bars. So much larger.

[@spartanseventyeight8673]

Born & Noble is a play on Barns & Noble

[@laurisdemons]

u need to try older alphas from 1 to 8

[@hanzswan6498]

miss the old versions more. everything in the new version feels very non-organic

[@Faux_Fox_]

They definitely made the combat worse. The weapons are less impactful, the sounds are boring, they made tools not work as weapons anymore The guns might be better, though they're a lot quieter & the game isn't 20% as realistic as it used to be. (Not to say it ever was realistic, but most of the difficulty is more artificial than it used to be)

[@DethroneKiinG]

And where did you get this vid idea /

[@HeavenlyMeatball]

if you hold the venison stew in your hand dogs wont attack you.

[@peterobrien8627]

Man I loved it when it first came out! The nights where more scarier and scavenging parts for bikes and that The fire pit was a glitch that helped so much back then ! I made a killer base and afraid to return it because I heard it’s gone completely if I do It was a reset

[@NotHappening-b8t]

my friends started this game around alpha 10 or so.... they said come play. i seen the graphics i was like ah hell no. and i usally not that picky lol. gpu wise i grew up on atari...... that said. i really wish they finish this game. they redone the skils 4-5 times now like wtf. they fix stupid shit like u used to be able to build underground base and hide from zombies. but devs didnt like that so again they patched shit that didnt need to be patched. fuck off its a video game. let us play how we want.

[@ChewyChops]

tallow was for candles

[@Patriot-em354]

Kinda what we got for xbox

[@TheJamation]

I much prefer having the food and water on the side like that because I never see it properly when it's so tiny under the hotbar forcing me into my inventory to see my status

[@Raida7]

Yeah we always play with a HUD mod for that reason

[@nathanburgett1599]

It would actually take more than 16 days. Because along with that system you could only gain wellness once a day from food,drink, then later vitamin.

[@InconsistentManner]

the born & noble was renamed crack a book after the Mindcrack Group began playing 7 days to die which if I recall correctly was the same year I started playing, 2015.

[@Dee-tc7lo]

I forgot about that old music, it was really good

[@dainbramage9508]

Old man screaming at clouds here, I miss when you could loot the bodies

[@Darklinart]

Only thing i want back is the crawler that actaully looks like. Crawler and not some like mutant zombie with out legs

[@JohanA-uh1yg]

Im looking forward to alpha 87 in 10 years.

[@Dtromblee]

Damn! Serious nostalgia; started on A6/A7 then dropped off around A11 until A21, so this is a great reminder of how far the game has come. I still expect the old sounds and the horrid blunderbuss, but glad we've evolved beyond it.

[@ryry8533]

0:07 nah that title belongs to project zomboid.

[@ancientking8771]

I got this back before alpha 5 and it was a VERY different game to what it became.

[@b.stoney_]

Can't wait to see what you think of a15, that's when I started.

[@philipvaglica1226]

Vitamins do nothing except raise wellness in the earlier builds

[@EvilReFlex]

i loved the wellness system, they should have expand it, not removing it.

[@brittanyking1059]

Night time in 7Days is definitely the horror aspect of the game. Always so nerve wracking.

[@CptGamerq]

The dogs in alpha 15 are game killers, they can sneak up on you so easily

[@DirtSweatGears]

my favorite thing about alpha 11 is how the zombies all run like the Terminator

[@shadowyclip]

not gonna lie as an early adopter of the game I can't decide if I miss the old original versions or not I've never actually gone back to look at them before this mini series. Definitely noticing some things I miss and some things I'm glad are gone.

[@fortusvictus8297]

I do miss the incredible dis-incentive to use firearms or make a ton of noise. Also, traders have been a mixed bag. The current build of the game is VERY firearm and explosives friendly

[@shadowyclip]

I agree I like a good melee build playthrough but inevitably there's just too many greens to deal with for melee. Also factor in the bombers and it gets even harder to stay melee.@@fortusvictus8297

[@bartomolev6682]

@@fortusvictus8297 it feels like a shooter rpg with survival and base building elemts, no longer the game where a single gunshoot brought half of the city on you.

[@QuickCas4h]

We havent recived one update on consol in 10 years ❤

[@psypherveritas895]

Looks like they made the health and other status bars shotgun shells.

[@FordFalcon1962nBlue]

i never played the older 7 days alphas like 13,14, or 15, i got on during the peak of 16, but from viewing, it seems like there were far more zombies in the older alphas that would spawn- but it seems like the newer alphas made it so you'd have more zombies to fight on horde night.

[@Captain_Char]

I kinda wish the shot gun in alpa 21 did the dmg of the old one here

[@pApA0LeGBa]

Forge ahead on day one? Lucky. I remember a playtrough were we didn´t find one before day 15 or 16.

[@Atomica1989]

The Alpha 11 Menu Soundtrack was so much better than the new one ^^

[@Nollauno]

If I remember correctly if you ate salads or fruit cocktails it would increase your wellness

[@whiteraven550]

-Wellness - 1M crouching - food smell - gore blocks - complex farming system - disassemble weapons ... So many good features just gone

[@iamgold3nn]

the wellness in alpha 16 was amazingly good and balanced tbh cuz it severely punished you for dying however in alpha 11 it was just garbage tbh

[@JustIn-mu3nl]

@@iamgold3nn I liked A 14 more than 16 personally.

[@johnny6187]

Gore blocks sucked :p

[@iamgold3nn]

@@JustIn-mu3nl alpha 13 upto 16 is almost identical, just a couple of tweaks here and there, the biggest difference imo is the traders, in a15 and 16 they were so broken, I used to buy level 500 crossbows for 1200 dukes

[@ChaseCoinFi]

Not to mention bit more natural looking biomes/terrain back in old version especially in A15/16

[@wintersteale]

I've been playing since the very early days and I have to say I miss a LOT of things from way back. Food didn't look like you were eating a wallet, zombie variety, character creation options, the giant bees that gave you honey, exploding barrels, better shotgun, there were some zeds inside buildings but majority of them were aimlessly roaming until you made noise, zed movements were more varied, there was no ridiculous 5 ft reach on them, using parts to repair and upgrade. Hordes were more challenging. There was no stupid rage mode. Zeds took fall damage. Sneak really existed. It was terrifying playing back then with lots of creepy sound effects. There were also spots were it was ominously quiet outside of towns. It was much more immersive with the zeds roaming, following sound and could not magically detect you behind walls if you were quiet. What zombie builds trigger traps, climbs up in a ceiling then replaces the tile or builds an entire false wall and then just lies in wait behind it? How can they drop down and crawl under blocks but we can't? Why can a body made of rotting, mushy flesh slap through solid concrete in a matter of seconds? How can animals chew through metal doors like it was paper ffs? Vehicles could plow down most zeds for quite a while before needing repairs and didn't act like acrobats bouncing and flipping ridiculously all over when making contact with decaying zeds. Also, learn by doing not only made sense but was far more enjoyable for game play.

[@roo2221]

300 k subs 300 k views bro checks the vibe check with his people