Where Did the Immune System Come From? | The Creation Podcast: Episode 48

[@newcreationinchrist1423]

Thank you so much for being the ones so many years ago that introduced me to creationism. It's truly been a blessing to me and lifted my faith to new bounds. I very much appreciate your ministry.

[@andronikostheophilos]

The human immune system is so complex and well engineered, that could never have evolved. Innate and Adaptive immunity work so well together, cells like dendritic cells being one of the main means of communication between them and a multitude of cytokines. When I studied immunology, I could see the clear hand of God the great design engineer.

[@lethalschannel2759]

It's hard to explain under the evolutionist paradigm how highly complex organisms that require these systems to survive at all managed to survive without them before they initially evolved them. Where are the transitional fossils? Oh, that's right, they magically escaped fossilisation...

[@newcreationinchrist1423]

God bless ICR 🙏✝️ praying for your strength and protection from the schemes of the enemy. May God cover you under his wings and protect you from all hurt, harm and danger in Jesus name

[@Scorpion-my3dv]

I like the focus on the bible ICR. That is really the basis for what we believe. Amen. Seeing Genesis from a scientific point of view is so interesting.

[@susanminor349]

Brings back 1 word from High School Biology.. I was amazed learning about Symbiosis..

[@cfmmrjeff]

Fascinating!! Excellent podcast!

[@poliincredible770]

Thanks ICR

[@kathleennorton7913]

Seems to me that transplanting beneficial microorganisms to the places in the body they help is a brand new frontier in healthy outcomes.

[@justinmacdonald1144]

Brilliant insight. This is clearly his core expertise.

[@icrscience]

A medical doctor talking about medical doctor things!

[@clintonwiebe2883]

Has me thinking of beneficial symbiotic relationships in ecology as well. Not so "dog eat dog" after all. Again the biblical worldview makes the best logical conclusion to observed scientific discovery in my opinion.

[@kathleennorton7913]

So, how does the unnatural "jab" interfere with the body's microbial balances, as it obviously does.

[@rydrakeesperanza5370]

probably the same the virus would, except that the spikes themselves won't be able to reproduce, just my assumption tho

[@newcreationinchrist1423]

"The immune system is the most complicated system in the body" wow didn't know that! Very interesting

[@Billie_Marie_]

Just found this ... Love it! I have Lupus and find this very interesting

[@rydrakeesperanza5370]

Interesting. However, I see this war for exapmle in necrotrophic organisms (and MAMP -> effector _> R-genes -> Effectors against R-genes, etc...) or even facultative pathogens like staphylococcus aureus, where, in the first case, looks like strong co-evolution to me. Was that already happening or possiblle pre-fall? Or rather, this corruption of the microbes, for example with toxins, did that then evolve (which begs the question to what is really irreducable complex)? Maybe you explain that in your parasite video, tho, I'll see So, in summary, the immune system was for regulation and communication? Now I wonder to which organisms "no-death" did not apply apart from microbes and plants. I heard something with insects did not need to be taken on the ark because they do not have the breath of life in them and how easy it is to accidentally swallow a small insect for a brachiosaurus....Or large whales swallow zooplankton. Or even Mosasaurus which can't filter feed. Or do only vertebrates count in no-death like with the "breath of life" thing someone once mentioned? I'd really like to know as I cannot imagine how it would be possible, so if anyone has an answer, please tell me

[@danielwilliams7161]

I'd never really thought of the immune system that way. It makes sense that it would be a way for our bodies to interact with microbial creatures, both helpful and harmful. But that leaves me wondering about theories on where harmful microbes like viruses and bacteria came from. Were they always there and something about them or us changed to make them harmful? Or are they some kind of newly formed organisms?

[@newcreationinchrist1423]

I believe sin is what caused that brother. Sin brought death so anything that brought death would have been set into motion. 🙂

[@sorinankitt]

This really makes sense. Before the fall it was the interface system. After the fall that interface system took on the roll of immunity.

[@pameladanese6837]

Hello from Michigan 😊

[@kathleennorton7913]

The tri unity of God is expressed in creation. The unity of different living organisms is an expression of the unity that exists within the Godhead.

[@lethalschannel2759]

Why would Adam have been vegan? Doesn't the Bible say God said that certain animals were for meat? I know ch 1 v 27 talks about any seed bearing plant being ours for meat. Maybe I remember incorrectly ...

[@icrscience]

Good question! Genesis 9:3 says "Every moving thing that lives shall be food for you. I have given you all things, even as the green herbs." This is after Noah and his family leaves the ark.

[@randallhansen9166]

YESHUA IS LORD! CHUCKY D IS DUST!