Where does the Political Right & Left come from?

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[@michaelmanning5379]

The Westminster seating plan, with the government being on the right of the Speaker, applies in the Canadian Parliament and every provincial legislature EXCEPT Prince Edward Island. In PEI the government is on the left of the Speaker. My PoliSci prof. told us that this came about because the door to the Member's lounge is on the left and the government wants to make sure that they can get to the bar before those scoundrels in the opposition.

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Sounds perfectly reasonable to me

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I have often thought that instead of referring to "right" and "left" we should be more truthful and refer to them as "right" and "wrong"

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[@anthonymorris2276]

“This applies to continental legislatures”. Somehow reminds me of the story - possibly apocryphal - of a sign at Victoria Station reading “Platform 19 for the Continent”. A wag added beneath the words, “All other platforms for the Incontinent”.

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[@louisgiokas2206]

Good to see you back. Of course, I have followed you on other channels. I wonder that more people do not know the story about right and left in the French assembly. I thought it was well known. As for the attitude about the Continent, I recall an interesting conversation from when I lived in England in the early part of this millennium. I was talking to some friends, whose children went to school with mine. They were talking about their upcoming holiday in Italy. They made some disparaging remarks about "those Continentals". I remember similar comments being made when I first went to England, in 1974. I had just come from "the Continent". It was all very illustrative of the attitudes of the times.

[@christopherpetergoodman8994]

The political terms Right and Left deriving from the French assembly is well known, that is not his point. His point is that this division is a "Contintental" import, and that it was not until the 1930's, and in particular during the Spanish Civil War, that people in the Anglosphere (New Statesman readers et al who supported the Russian Revolution) began to describe themselves as on the Left, with everybody else being on the Right. The Left on the Continent were those who supported the French Revolution. The attitudes of those dim and distant years of a decade ago persist in England for the simple reason that Continental politics is different, that is precisely the point he is making.

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[@orglancs]

Yes, this history is obviously correct, but long before the French revolution, during the English civil wars, for example, there were opposed parties, those who suported the king and monarchical principles, and radical Levellers and advocates of social equality, of whom Wynstanley is the obvious example. In other words the division existed long before 1789. I wonder what terms contemporaries used for these opposing parties. Thank you, Dr S, for your great knowledge and for sharing it with us all. I could listen to you for hours. History is definitely the most interesting subject there is.

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[@nickcowell4744]

As Britain came late to the party, we should be the ones to coin new terms. Perhaps "The Sinister" and "The Correct".

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You should write a book on English Conservatism. Your lectures are worth a book on the subject.

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As always, very welcome. I wonder what your take is on British Communism?

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Awesome. Excellent channel. Well said. Spot on. Support STV voting system for UK general election politically in England Britain London. French Revolution. Napoleon thet another story he created modern Italy Thomas. Napoleonic law.

[@jim-es8qk]

I think it represents the different personality types. Some are more left, some are naturally more to the right. Parliament over time has automatically organised itself into the two opposing sides to represent these different view points.

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[@laurenceglazier]

Excellent account, thank you. The Spanish Civil War itself perhaps amid echoes from Russia and its royal family, polarising the opposite sides.

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This was brilliant

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Is your clock working now?

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Hi David, Great video, really enjoyed it. Could you do a video on communism/marxism and Karl Marx as I think people don't realise/forget how evil communism was/is and the millions that were killed because of it. Big thank you for making the video. Cheers, Billy

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I'm currently living in Eastern Europe - Bucharest and before that Slovenia. They still haven't recovered from communism - at all. People are still super depressed. Life is drab despite the obvious improvements - they are psychologically still suffering. I'm going to leave soon lol

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@@JoBlakeLisbon Good luck leaving.😂

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17:18 probably not their "veganism". The word vegan being coined in 1944, while The Road to Wigan Pier was first published 1937. But that's all I know about it, just those dates, I haven't read the book so I may be wrong. Maybe Orwell attacked the concept, without using the word which didn't exist yet.

[@victoriabaker6943]

Excellent

[@stephenandersen4625]

Not sure if I’m convinced that “left” and “right” are new …. In concept at least. Can we see shades of it in the Levelers and diggers? In the Optimes and populares? Aren’t all modern “conservatives” simply a flavor of Liberal?

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Seating plan? Has David Starkey been really been cramming to remember his Debrett's correct form?

[@shahjhanhaider26]

Left is revolutionary and the left is conservative,may be so,in the house of Commons left is radical party whilst the right is having age old ideas,might be French revolution in France came out by the left,either left or center left the former is having more radical theories,mostly left is the development of poor or deprived class

[@DrEO86]

Read ‘A Conflict of Visions’ by Thomas Sowell

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Sowell is criminally underappreciated

[@mohamedkhrarba3691]

Universalism, universal value or imposing by anyway the occidental culture, destroying all what it doesn't suit it.

[@AndyJarman]

The idea that a political philosophy that strives to replace liberal democracy is able to be located within a liberal democratic parliament has always struck me as very erroneous. Fascism, National Socialism, and Marxism are all interpretations of the Young Hegelian's political assertion that society will evolve or progress to shed itself of liberal notions of the sovereignty and primacy of the people. Such "progress-ive" philosophies maintain that representative democracy itself is an invalid notion. So left and right do not apply to non liberal parties or faiths that are unable to enter into debate as a means of developing ideas and arriving at a more reasoned resolution of what is the best course of action. Left and right wings by definition cannot have a bar of ideas that do not look to open democracy, debate and compromise.

[@natmanprime4295]

It actually comes down to first principles, it's universal. The left is about competition and winning, gauche and sinister, power grabbing (power grabbing is inherently sinister). The right is about righteousness, patronising and hypocritical. The right keep the left at bay by appealing to the people, who in return lift them up above the competition. The lady and right may both talk about morality, but only the right can be hypocritical, because only THEY believe in what they're saying. The left just want to win, they have lower standards, they only care about strength, competence. The centre is about correctness, impish and logical. You can't be correct without a sense of righteousness, and you can't do right without the competence of a winner (or a gangster). Put another way: The best way to win is to be righteous (or you have to worry about payback), and the best way to be righteous is to be correct (or you end up being hypocritical, spoiling and patronising people, you have to 'cruel to be kind', forgiveness and redemption, recognise that 'no man is good', that sort of thing).

[@hunkyhaggis2161]

Very appropriate you chose the word "gauche" as it means "left" in French.

[@natmanprime4295]

@@hunkyhaggis2161 I know, that's why I said it!

[@Lytton333]

That is all a muddle. The left aren't righteous or hypocritical? The left don't appeal to the people for legitimacy over the right?

[@natmanprime4295]

@@Lytton333 it's not a muddle. It's a simple oscillation. Left, right, centre. You need strength, before righteousness, before knowing the correct non hypocritical way to be righteous. People are inherently selfish. It only sounds muddled because it clashes with what you've been told before

[@natmanprime4295]

@Paul Hitchens exactly

[@Margatatials]

So the idea that the political left and right horseshoe back around was historically literally true haha

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Whence cometh L&R, from simplistic thinking.

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They divide over the question whether capitalism is evil, as Adam Smith apologetically confirms with the lame excuse of necessity.

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Beethoven symphony no. 9, 2nd movement.

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The French ….

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Left = equality Right = Inequality

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