Where is the Power? | 2024 KTM 300 XC-W Initial Impressions

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Now that I've had a few rides and testing sessions on the 2024 KTM 300 XC-W here on my home turf in Utah, I have some thoughts. This is not a full review, but so many people are reaching out with questions, it seemed a video was in order here.
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[@tylerhall3854]

Ive always respected your thoughts and opinions an for the most part I’d agree with whatever your putting out there but I’d strongly disagree with this one. You’re a huge influencer an I feel you may have jus misled a lot of people. I have a 24 300xcw that I’ve put 15 hours on in past few weeks, prior I had 21 300xcw that I put 160 hours on. In comparison the 24 doesn’t have the lil snap you get from previous gen when the pv would open, “coming up on the pipe”. 24 has smoother transition which tends to work better for riding enduro/hard-enduro, what the bike was purposely built to do. I’ve now rode the 24 in several different settings slow/technical single, 2-track, and a xc race. The engine definitely isn’t down on power, it makes considerably more bottom end it’ll keep pulling where I’d be downshifting the tpi which had a head, tune, and injector relocate. The 24 keeps pulling up top, an never seems to flatten out. It doesn’t rev as fast as the xc, thank goodness but these are 2 different machines built for different disciplines. Yes it’s the first time there’s been any significant difference in the xc an xcw engine and in my opinion they finally got it right, but lacking power? Jus keep twisting if u want more, if you find yourself wanting to constantly blow the back wheel off chances are you’re not an enduro rider.

[@DmitriyAdv]

This comment needs to be up higher. Thanks for your insight! I haven't ridden a '24, but I find that even the relative smoothness/predictability of the TPI 300's vs. some of the carb-ed brethren is a major advantage in actual racing and technical terrain. Some of the carb bikes feel faster, and that two stroke "hit" and "snap" is sure a ton of fun... but it makes the bike wear you out faster and is harder to ride overall, in my opinion.

[@granth9551]

Everyone seems to refer to hard enduro nowadays when they talk of enduro. Enduro is not just crawling and lugging your bike through super technical terrain the whole time.

[@tomt3680]

Been saying this the entire time. He essentially rides fields and double track. Yammering on about lack of power on a bike built for rocks and roots. Has he tried the aggressive cam? What about gearing ? Nope. Only stupid click bait titles. He’s the opposite of Keefer.

[@jeffknobby2700]

All of this thread is spot on! Well spoken and they should be a highlighted comment!

[@daveyboy7305]

My buddy has just purchased one of these and from new he said it felt fast . Standard gearing is a bit too tall for hard type enduro but he loves it . He has owned a sherco 300 previously but loves the ktm

[@readytoriderentals6597]

Man, I don’t see what the problem is. Ktm can’t make 20 different 300 2 strokes for 20 different power variations. Do you want a hot and aggressive bike, then get the XC. do you want a smooth tractable bike, then get the Xcw. I’m grateful they finally made a big difference on power and chassis between the xc/xcw. Because the older TPI Xc and Xcw were more alike then they were different, especially in the power department. I for one and very happy that Xcw TBI does not have the power of XC. Because the XC TBI while great for cross country, was very hard to ride hard Enduro and similar slippery traction situations, you either couldn’t lug low enough or it would light on fire spinning the tire. Very little middle area for modulation. having more tractability is massively needed on the Xcw. Now, do you want that cross country frame to come with a little less power? Or the xcw to have a little more power? Don’t complain to Ktm that they didn’t make 20 different bike variations for your specific one off taste, but rather support the aftermarket that gives you the power to fine-tune the bike to how you like it. The aftermarket support is what makes our off-road community so great. And Ktm constantly updating and improving the bikes and offering new variations is what keeps our Offroad sport alive, and all of us in business…. have you seen a KZbin channel thriving on the newest most recent Suzuki bold new graphics?

[@carlatamanczyk3891]

Well said!

[@ShareefTraish-dm5wf]

I agree with you but this bike is just too slow for what it is meant for. I thought it was going to be a little less power than the XC's but this bike is just too far off what it is suppose to be. I am sure KTM will come out with a new map update after all the complaints come in.

[@readytoriderentals6597]

@@ShareefTraish-dm5wf I guess it really depends on who you are and what your after. As a Bike rental company, that rents to everyone from all over, you’d be surprised that when all the European pros come over and rent bikes for hard enduro races, they bring custom parts to make the bikes hit as soft as possible. For the TPI They bring low compression head, green spring and a soft tune to take ALL the hit away and a 12/51 tooth setup to ride in high gears at low rpm to manage slip even further. And the tpi is soft already to begin with in stock form. And then when I rent to American west coast riders, they want the bike to be red spring, high compression head, and short twist cam throttle to make it a fire breathing drag bike for hare scrambles. Which in essence is the Xcw tbi for hard enduro, soft and manageable and the xc tbi, Rip your arm sockets out, for hare scramble, desert fast riders. There’s a big market for soft hitting bikes and big market for hard hitting bikes Now theses still people that want a hard enduro platform, but with a cross country power hitting motor, and you can do that with aftermarket tools

[@grantbowen5047]

@@readytoriderentals6597 Great real life examples!! Kyle does not ride hard enduro or hare scrambles so he's kind of in a purgatory of some sorts:).

[@MrBe787]

Still rocking my carbureted 18 TX300 with a backup kickstart and loving the simplicity and power.

[@human1513]

And your probably has an adjustabnle PV like my 2022 300 XC. Can be adjusted in 5 seconds.

[@bbieger2]

my 23 xc300 will SMOKE your tx

[@MrBe787]

@@bbieger2 ok , sure, whatever you say dude. 🤦‍♂️

[@JoshuaCussins]

yeah man i have the 2019 TX300, last year of carb and that bike is magical.

[@dougfalstad5227]

Me too! Better than the newer versions by far.

[@moleson10]

Thanks Kyle for telling it like it is. There's nothing wrong with a motor designed to be smooth rather than powerful as long as that's what you're looking for. The TBI xc bikes make very smooth power too.

[@mixalis6168]

Kyle, has no clue !

[@gregtheos9309]

Complete 180 degree turn from your first review of this bike just a month or so ago. Bike was "amazing" then but somehow "runs like s**t" now.

[@dylansouther8185]

Power changes alot from 1k ft in Ohio to 5k+ in Utah. The xcw probably felt powerful in Ohio but in higher elevation it's alot weaker (3% hp loss/ 1000' increase in elevation)

[@jeff40]

Gotta buy a KTM 300XC, that's where KTM puts its power.More so than the XC-W models?!

[@jeff40]

It seem's like the KTM brand always make their katooms good but they're lacking something?! Lately it's been lacking the low end hit! Balanced crank to cut down on vibration is great but the W is lacking the hard hitting low down power band! I miss the older days when you could install enduro lights on front+a rear brake light through the hydraulic rear brake. It kind of seems that you can either but a W model or go with the XC model & pay out ur aS$ for a front enduro light! I no longer have my old 2011 300XC but I sure miss riding that bike with it's well jetted Keihin carb.

[@tomt3680]

It’s because he’s a shill who rides around on double track all day.

[@nightrider4370]

@@jeff40 had one too. Best bike I have ever owned.

[@ronnieling133]

For anyone that has rode an old ktm 360/380, this is a move in the right direction. The first time I rode a modern two stroke (2018 beta 300rr) I was blown away at how nice the bike was to me. Compared to he shoulder ripping tractor that was my exc 360

[@yukonjon5964]

the 380 still calls to me from the past... begging me to loft the front end at the crack of the throttle...

[@dannylorenze6188]

Yet no mention of the bottom end torque this bike has. I love the instant bottom end linear power of this bike. It's a tractor, a rock crawler and a great trial bike. It's true, it doesn't rip your arms off mid to top. If anything it's very four stroke'ish..

[@yukonjon5964]

thank you. like how many of us hold our bike WFO for ages anyway? maybe a long sandy hill. otherwise, for tight riding, torque is more valuable than HP... which basically means more of the power down low and equals way more traction when you need it.

[@stevejones6647]

Makes sense to me that ktm finally made their enduro bike an actual enduro bike, with softer smoother power. If you don’t think that smoother power would be a benefit, you need to either ride harder terrain, or buy the xc. Seems pretty simple to me?

[@harryridley2714]

Keep up the great videos matey , honest reviews go a long way 👍🏼

[@dillongere3322]

Hey Kyle! I think that the motor and suspension levels of aggressiveness might be opposed, but I have personally found it easier to push a bike that is lacking power (or doesn't have as much of a hit from the bottom) than one with instant hit. 2cents from a weekend rider.

[@Antholography]

I agree with this.

[@yukonjon5964]

i would rather have suspension i can trust to handle hits and power i can leave wide open, than the other way around.

[@forildofanatics]

I felt the same way about the power on the 23 250xc compared to the 22 tpi 250. I have 50 hours on the 23 and now super happy with the power. Think it’s the electronic power valve. I’m used to it now and and love it. Some friends with the 23 300 xc say that bike has crazy power. Glad I stuck with the 250

[@BERZERKERSV4]

Trust me .. 15 hours on my 23 XC…and your friends are correct… crazy power in both modes… but the forks are trash…

[@motoxmatt]

Great honest evaluation! That's why I follow you.

[@Siskiyouoffroad]

This made me happy I bought a '23 TE300 TPI, sounds like the power difference isn't that crazy compared to the XC which wouldn't have worked for me anyway since I want oil injection.

[@johnsomeson5232]

I like that you give your honest first take on the bikes you get. My opinion is that the shroud stripes are some of the silliest graphics I’ve seen on a modern bike. Easy fix though.

[@pyrostwistedride4821]

I believe another KZbinr said the XC and XCW have different stators/flywheels for 2024. Thanks for the opinion and honesty on the bike. If I were in the market, I would want the more visceral feeling power!

[@DirtBikeChannel]

That is correct. The stator on the 23 and 24 XC won't run anything except the spark plug.... exaggerating, but not too far.

[@baldknobby]

30w vs 110w

[@DmitriyAdv]

@@Eametsa Kyle had/reviewed a bunch of Betas over the years if you look back through his videos.

[@stevedouglas1654]

@@baldknobbyhow about a fan with no light on a 300 XC and send yer coil off to Ricky Stator. Just sayin

[@joefoster259]

@@stevedouglas1654 tusk fan is working just fine on a 23 xc 300.

[@oldproracing9360]

Former AMA pro and magazine test rider here. I’ve had KTM 300’s since 2011. The 2024 300 XC is the best all around motorcycle I’ve ever owned. I’m old and slow now…but I still know what works. If you want a bike that does everything pretty damn well, go buy the 24 300 XC.

[@TKReyesup]

100% agree on the power. I wanted this bike to scare me a little…. It doesn’t.

[@a64738]

Yes exactly ;) I ride for fun and being a little scared of the power is part of it... I tried the 2018 KTM 300 2T and found it to tame so I went for the 2019 KTM 500 ;) It has enough power to scare me but it is also very easy to control the power and I can ride in difficult terrain I never would dare with my old Yamaha WR450 because it is so easy to control the power.

[@owenbrowne753]

I’d disagree, it has plenty of power if you know how to use it, I’d say a bit of skill can get you killed on this bike if you drop the clutch to hard, this bike is meant to have 450 lug in a smooth 2T, Id say this bike also would come off as low power on easy flat smooth trails, get on some tough enduro trails and this is the best bike ever

[@TKReyesup]

@@owenbrowne753 yes it’s smooth “easy” to ride but I’ve been on bikes since I was 10 yo and always loved the “hit/snap of a bike whether it was a 2 or 4…. That’s where this smiles come from. All I’m saying is I’ve rode more exciting dirtbikes than my 24 300 xcw.

[@mclaynebalzly1739]

I bought one of the new xcw 300tbi bikes and I have some of his same reactions. I feel like it could’ve had a touch more power in the mid to top end although it does feel really good in the low. I know these bikes have different port timing compared to their desert and Motocross counterparts. I belive this will end up being your biggest gain in terms of power. Switching to a sx/xc bore and getting a tune. Another thing I’ve noticed about the new xcw is the weight of the front end which is super helpful in technical sections but makes it unstable at speeds above 55 and terribly hard to Wheely in 4th-6th gear if you aren’t standing. This also might just be because I don’t have my sag at the correct height and it’s taking my ass end up. One other thought I’ve noticed that this pds suspension is not very good off-road when exceeding 25mph. I’ve ridden my dads 2005 crf450f and the rear suspension is so much more trackable at high speeds when you’re racing across rocky or even loose dirt. The pds shock does great with logs and hill traction but forget mobbing along a 50” trail on the pipe. It simply doesn’t have the stability and you can’t tell where that rear tire is. This has led me to already crash the bike while riding through relatively soft desert sand and sage brush. And ultimately tear my mcl. I still love the bike and have ideas on how I’m gonna fix what I don’t like. Like bar risers and lower pegs, a TUbliss rear tire, a fatty pipe and dropping the rear/moving the forks down in the triple clamp. I would recommend the bike if you like slow technical riding through rocks and trees but if you’re looking for a fun bike to blast through the desert on or a bike that can take a good jump. I would probably go with the xc.

[@Big.Ron1]

I grew up riding Elsinors way back when they first came out. Basically an on off switch wor a throttle. Either a low power down low to a fire breathing dragon at wide open. I haven't ridden a 2 stroke since the late 70s so don't know what to expect. Be safe and thank you.

[@TonyKidd]

I own two 2023 KTM 300 TBI XCs and a 2024 KTM TBI 300 XC-W. My son and I have raced them side by side and switched riders back and forth and the XC-W is faster until mid rpms in 6th gear. About 65 mph. It absolutely halls butt. I guess I got lucky and bought a fast one.

[@yukonjon5964]

we needed your comment. it was sounding like the difference was massive. i'm all for the XC-W where i ride. traction is nil here.

[@andrewhenshall8653]

I just bought the 24 Husqvarna tx 300 and it's beyond powerful

[@ATVB217]

Just curious what kind of vest / chest protector you have on in the video , thanks for all the info

[@tyhennessy9945]

when you ride hard enduro this is what you want. alot of the pros run low compression heads and build them so they are crazy smooth from bottom to mid. all about traction. Sounds like if you want the snap go with the TX and re-wind the stator so you can put a fan and a headlight on it. problem solved.

[@Mike-uh2gw]

I would take the linear power delivery over snap. My favorite place to ride is Barnwell Mountain in East TX and too much throttle gets you in all kinds of trouble. Just get the full race bike or Slavens has the fix if you want fire breathing power.

[@ewfunnell]

Kyle- what kind of stock mapping does it come with? Cause can’t the “lack of pop” be fixed with a more aggressive map?

[@AdvBrewery]

Navy has had me busy, ain't seen your channel in a minute, but hats off, I can see the gains from the gym/row machine. :)

[@ddrowdy7666]

This isn't a hookup site.

[@dirtbikefun]

Is it not that the engine is smoother and has a better curve, so you are supposed to get a handful, and the suspension can now handle that? Just a thought :)

[@2smoking.and.4stroking]

All that makes sense. Basically three power flavors for different uses - SX, XC, XC-W. 400 hours on my 2018 xc with a factory 300sx kit. I still wouldn't trade it for a new one.

[@westcomotofilms3865]

Kyle we agree completely! The new Xc was amazing and I got excited about the xcw and a heavier rider like me ride one right as they came out and I was disappointed. The forks felt awesome to me! I’m waiting to see what happens with the aftermarket ecu ect. I’m 360 hours on my TPI and holding off. Thanks for the video

[@OneSon744]

I control the power with the throttle and clutch. Love my YZ250/ 465 two smoke. Like the instant wheelie or bunny hop, better for my bad back. My 300 would not quite clear stuff, jamming my back.

[@michaelwendler5589]

No matter what KTM does.... It's the best bike ever, and they did it for a reason. Super happy that I've managed to stay away from the hype and went with Sherco!

[@grantbowen5047]

Put it on a dyno and see if it really has less power. I doubt it. Tractable power is literally the goal of any hard enduro rider. This is a hard enduro bike.

[@elvispusley3515]

You got it bud

[@jeanlavallee2887]

Dyno won't tell you how is the throttle response as it is a steady state test.

[@grantbowen5047]

@@jeanlavallee2887 It has all of the actual power but with better throttle control which is what we all want anyway. This is 99% click bait.

[@garys4204]

Its easy to make a bike unrideable, its way harder to make an unrideable bike rideable. You dont hear about people wanting to ride a cr500 in the trails.

[@DuhYaThink]

Love smooth power. As long as it lifts the front wheel it should work.

[@malcolmharris4674]

I had a quick test ride on the 2024 model 300 and 250 over the past weekend. I was also unexpectedly disappointed that the "snappiness" is gone on both models, it removes the thrill of riding dirt bikes. After test-riding both 2024 models, I hopped straight onto my old beat-up 2004 KTM 250 which has tons more grunt and more fun to ride than the 2024 model despite being 20+ years old.

[@scottardito7790]

Did you ride the 250XC?

[@malcolmharris4674]

@@scottardito7790 yes, I rode the 300 and 250

[@scottardito7790]

@@malcolmharris4674 thanks- I’m considering a ‘24 250XC but am worried if there is lack of snap/excitement. I rode the ‘24 250XCW and almost fell asleep. Great bike I’m sure but too smooth for me, no matter how technical.

[@malcolmharris4674]

@@scottardito7790 Agree. The power is far too linear for my liking. For now I’m sticking to older models. A map switch might fix the lack of grunt.

[@scottardito7790]

@@malcolmharris4674 so you also felt like the regular XC 250 was too mild? Did it at least have more snap than the XCW? I dont get why people are saying they are having traction issues with the regular XC in wet rocks and roots.

[@kweholt]

I feel like I hit the sweet spot with my 23 250 XC. I ditched the AER fork for MX Tech Lucky spring conversion kit valved for mountain single track. Now I got the hot motor and the dialed suspension

[@Dat_Sun]

Did you mess with the aer settings before swapping? I found my 23 250xc aer forks to be perfect here in the Rockies. Comfort settings made a dramatic improvement for single track, and the lightweight forks make for effortless jumping and pivot turns.

[@kweholt]

I did play with clickers, could not get it where I wanted for the pacific NW 1st and 2nd gear trails I ride. The XC isn’t really the right bike for what I ride, but it’s real close now after the suspension change

[@richardverren8121]

Check your map switch plug is not in the low map position from the dealer. More power is available if it has been reversed from new and left unconnected. Otherwise try a map switch on your bike to be sure that you are judging it fairly. Lastly there are many hidden maps inside the ECU just waiting to be selected by a KTM race tuner or KTM dealer. I accidently selected one on my 2020 300TPI and found I needed an A grade racing licence to use it fully. Eventually I went back to Std mapping but missed the wild thing feelings...

[@danhopkinson2811]

@richardverren8121 didn't you watch the video or listen to what he said? He mentioned the map switch under the tank, and also that he used the map switch from his XC on the XC-W and it didn't make a noticeable difference. i found that was the case on my 2019 250 tpi. the map switch didn't make much of a noticeable difference. I won't bother putting one on my 2023 300tpi

[@craighoffman6876]

Interesting video. Rode a '23 XC-W back to back with my '18 XC, which has a Lectron, V4 reeds and an S3 head on it with the middle insert. My bike admittedly is a kick in the pants off the bottom, which I like, as in my world 2Ts are supposed to be rowdy! Plus I live in Colorado and higher compression is almost mandatory when riding in the high country. The TBI felt like the TPI bikes I've ridden, couldn't really tell the difference to be honest. Nothing wrong with it, the power was smooth and throttle input to rear wheel output was quite linear for a 2T. The new TBI was not "slow" by any means. Give it the beans and it will rip your arms off, ya just gotta feed it a few more "beans" than my older '18 model, which as I mentioned, does have a head on it. I wouldn't say this is a "fault" it is more of a "trait", one that could be quite useful in the really gnarly stuff, where my snarly XC can be a little bit of a handful. I suspect a TBI with a head on it would be very close to perfect for gnarly riding in CO, with perhaps more snap but not as aggressive as my carb'd '18. I did love the new XC-W suspension right out of the box as it felt more accurate and supportive and better than older XC-W's I've ridden, and the steering/handling felt very sharp at my B rider sporty but I don't wanna crash someone else's shiny new bike riding speed. For my admittedly not top flight but not pokey slow riding purposes, I think I would be quite happy with the suspension as delivered. It was a relatively short ride, but the handling on the new bikes is notably tighter and sharper than my old '18, but not sell the '18, buy a new bike and incur the stiff costs associated with doing that sharper... Gonna keep rocking my '18 as it runs awesome and I don't feel like I'm missing anything in the motor department compared to the new bikes. I like the bottom end rip, even though it can potentially bite me in the ass once in awhile. Call me old school, but that is simply life while astride a high performance 2T 😆

[@gnagsaar_]

What about VIBRATIONS?? More or less than 2023 300 TPI?

[@Colsencsm]

Thoughts on a 16 years old jumping from racing a 125 to a 300?? I wanna stay on two strokes for woods racing but idk about the big jump

[@mikek671]

Does your 24 have the latest map that was just released a couple weeks ago?

[@yzmoto5753]

My carb'd '17 300 XC felt very weak off idle in stock trim. The head in '17 was identical to the XCW. Not 100% sure but I think the ignition map was same as well. KTM likes to de-tune the W. Luckily with the TBI 300, the XC uses the SX head.

[@jakenbake1336]

Just got a 24 ktm 300sx and I love it!!!! It's better than the 19 kx450 or the 05 kx 250 2 stroke I had.

[@njmxjunkie3128]

I wonder if it’s mapped this way to get past emissions laws😊

[@geoffboyd]

I am glad that they are mellowing out the engine to make it linear and with lots of low end. Good job KTM, that’s what an enduro bike should have! Small throttle position changes should result in incremental increases in engine ramping up. As far as chassis and suspension being more for high speed stuff. That doesn’t align with making the bike an enduro machine for hard obstacles… I think that is because enduro riders still enjoy flying through some single track and hitting things at speed in between the obstacles To me the xc-w should be set up for hard obstacles and still be usable for single track. I think this configuration is the best at that of any bike I’ve ever seen. Sounds like it’s linear and predictable with excellent use of mid stroke! That’s where we want it! I want this bike bad

[@Superdisco199]

There is the possibility that your bike isn't running properly. There seems to be alot of manufacturing variation like there was with TPi's. Also you can use the XC head insert.

[@davidj9977]

some are saying the power valve is completely tightened from the factory. did you try opening the power valve some?

[@human1513]

The old switch you could put on the older TPI 's was not a MAP switch but was a timing switch (2 position). Since it is an electronic controlled power valve you can no longer adjust it. I like being able to adjust the PV on my 2022 300 XC for different situations, like more hit or smoother power in 5 seconds. Seems 100% of reviewers over the years forgot to mention they could adjust the PV with the manual adjustable PV's. Would be cool if there was a switch to select a few different PV adjustments.

[@joeschmid6028]

Try this Save Money - On ALL New KTMS my buddies and I always Fully Back Out All Compression adjusters Front / Rear. Set All Front / Rear Rebound Clickers to the Middle. Find a High Speed place to ride - Spend a Full Day At High Speed having fun using Only Rebound to Trim for best feel. This will Speed Up breaking IN the suspension - IF your spring is matched to your weight Set Free-sag lower to 1 3/4" free sag - I know guys who run 2 inches on PDS for Best Traction - The bike will Track like a Goat in Technical and High Speed Handling will be Real Good (Like older KTMs)- - ->PDS shocks work best with Lower Free Sag than linkage systems - - Engine Down on Power ? Here's where you pay a Little Money - Send your CDI to Twisted Development for remapping power valve timing. They can enrich or Lean fuel anywhere needed as well. You can have Both Worlds - Slow in Technical and Raging XC at warp speed - CHEERS

[@snowgo5922]

Awesome Review! So is this bike where there’s calmer power, but holds the power very well at RPM? Could be the reason for stiffer suspension being able to handle harder hits at faster speeds?

[@lindellsiler5994]

I know I'm asking for too much but you should get a xc and a xc-w map choices for the price of these bikes. With real map choices it would make buying a switch easier to swallow but it still should be included'

[@bikemancody2752]

I HAVE A 24 300 XCW in my garage. Have t got it out yet. I have a 21 300 XCW I ride 2-3 times a week. I race SETRA and NEPG series on my 21. Hope I'm not disappointed with my new 24.

[@mikecolesvids]

My 2020 300 XC-W 6Days came with a map switch?

[@SpeedDemonExpress]

Check the TPS voltage first. Make sure that's right. Then do the powervalve learn procedure. Always good to double check to make sure it's working properly. And use map 2. Lol

[@danielhurtado4856]

Replace the throttle cam with the white one it comes with. The bike will feel much more snappy 🤙🏽

[@nickconsin2639]

How does the new 250 xcw/te range compare to the 300? Is it a lower power 300 or is it a faster revving snappier bike?

[@Chadman300]

This is the 1st time I've ever heard of anybody complaining about the power of the brand new 24 300 XCW . I would change the power valve timing so it opens up faster, so it gives you more power off the low end , mid & Top end, Kind of like the old days when we put the red power valve spring in . Look in your owners. manual & see how how to set your power valve mode electronically. Good luck! 👍

[@TaranHowell-rp5ei]

What would you suggest to a trail rider/track rider but at like a rookie level xc or xcw since the power delivery is so much different?

[@justsomedude445]

so if i understand what your saying , some guys just need to buy the 'XC' - vs - the 'XC-W' is all ?? great that there are those choices

[@skyryder2994]

I just bought a 23 XC-W 300 and she rips!

[@jaywalk6628]

Other reviewers say it's more like the 2023 XC than last years W. Sounds like you got a Lemon to me.

[@maxflight777]

*What was the pressure altitude* ? You said in a previous video that you test rode it at a high altitude….

[@samme20]

you could remap the ecu to feel like the older 300's so that you can get the pros from the new gen bikes and then you could get the power to feel like the ones you like

[@idunno1684]

Have you got any info on the 2024 mini bikes? 50, 65, 85 ?

[@jigsaw666jigsaw]

I tried it today and a feel it a lot heavier than previous TPI. Did you notice this?

[@andyoutdoorsguy4974]

Does anyone know what parts are interchangeable from the 21 to the 24. I looked up part numbers and most are different, but i also know that somtimes they still work even if diffrent part numbers. Thanks in advance.

[@tonymartucci7097]

Did you get the latest map from KTM? Heard someone mention theirs was mapped last min at the dealer. Not disagreeing - but two other reviews I watched did say the oppoaite regarding motor, although it did not hit like the XC

[@kscott8464]

I ride the trails here in Utah, as well, and I will appreciate the linear power curve.

[@dirkdiggler3009]

Do these new ECUs have a break in period like a snowmobile?

[@beaudryadventures6785]

There it is, nice bike!

[@timdonnelly8392]

My 2016 xc is the last of the Greatest ,carb, Adjustable p.v, spring shocks fantastic power,I'll keep it over any newer year! And kick start plus electric!

[@Cyril_Harperink_87]

I own a 22' carb bike (Rieju 300 MR pro) and love it (even if I have spent a ton of hours tuning the carb to be acceptable). But to be honest what I'm looking for on a KTM now is a soft power delivery because riding in mud ou extrem conditions most of the time. I'm ok with a soft power because if you trust what Bolt is saying "suspensions soft, mousses soft, engine soft" everything soft. If you ride hours a day you need soft things to manage the bike. I don't want to undergo my enduro bike when I ride it. So for me it's a good thing. And as you said there are many solutions to tune it harder for those who want it. 😊

[@GioRega23]

What’s the best KTM 300 model year? Regarding power delivery

[@mikevanica2175]

Hi Kyle! Do you know what the spring rate frt and rear is?

[@randytidwell5836]

put a ngk bpr7eix iridium or the equivalent of the heat range that comes in it. also put the red spring in the power valve with a quick hand adjuster so you can dial it back on a moment notice if you need to. those 2 thing really will help wake it up a lot..

[@kirkwilliams4942]

I've ridden one. I have a new 2023 300 as well and I changed everything over to the Best Duel Sports stuff. It's almost too much of a rocket ship now compared to stock. But I love it, I would not purchase a 2024. Let's see how they go in a couple years.

[@Trad-Am]

Pretty sure they went for smooth, to be more Beta like, for snotty stuff, but made the forks take some harder hits, without destroying the softness for the slow speed.

[@DirtBikeChannel]

yeah

[@ditomann1371]

Friendly Hello from a German currently in Florida on holiday making his way from east to west. Like your vid’s but sadly I can’t take part in your giveaways. Creep up the grind !!!

[@DirtBikeChannel]

Enjoy Florida!

[@outfitr9703]

I think I'd like it. I've done a bunch of things to my '18 to get it to run "better" and it does rip but I hardly ever let it. Ha.

[@wednesdar452]

Same gear box now for XC and XC-W... differences coming solely from ECU and final gearing.

[@jacoblambert1336]

The whole point of the TBI was to get the snap back into these 2 strokes. I'm actually not a fan of the TPI power because of the lack of snap. It just felt like the bike was revving without power. Gonna be disappointed if the new gen is even worse.

[@1209Dan...]

@DirtBikeChannel ...What roost guard/ chest protector with pockets is this at 0:47 ...? Also, bought my first new bike this year, and extremely disappointed with the hit on my 2024 300xc, missing the top end of my old 250

[@Ben-zs3sg]

I think that KTM finaly made it easier to choose between the XC and XCW now that they are very different !

[@MudAndDustMoto]

I also found it to be quite soft when testing one at a local demo day. Very underwhelming. Im definitely part of the where is my power contingent, my left index and middle finger’s are my traction control

[@joshua.moore4]

D@rk level 💯 bro.

[@danielz174]

Apparently the 2024 250exc is a way more fun, snappy bike to ride compared to the 300. Any thoughts on just getting a 250 instead? Pretty sure there's like a 1hp & 3nm difference between the two

[@gregtheos9309]

That's what I did after being on a 300 xcw for years.

[@davidkotrba8062]

I guess this is why I need multiple bikes. One old school smoker with a red spring and the this new easy rider.

[@Rammstone77]

Kyle - the EXC-W is made for Enduro and Extreme Enduro - the cylinder timing and compression ratio is totally different and made for most low end torque and traction for difficult terrain - the Factory Extreme Enduro guys run the same setups like the EXC-W. If you want a more Motocross or XC oriented bike the XC is the better choice for you.

[@Rammstone77]

And they have a larger generator and therefore more inertia…

[@DirtBikeChannel]

yes, I know. It's just that this is the first year I've had (and I've had EVERY XC-W SINCE 2012) a W that was noticeable softer than the XC.

[@owenbrowne753]

@@DirtBikeChannelI’d say that’s a good thing no?, why buy an enduro bike that’s a racer motor, wouldnt u be excited abt taking this thing on the tougher trails, tackling things the prior 300 xcws couldnt

[@paulpotempa8829]

If ktm offered a 3-4 stage map switch with real noticeable differences they could make everyone happy

[@esteraczacharowska7651]

Hey. I currently own a 2023 ktm 125 xc. How does this bikes power compare to the 125?

[@kaisuhina8024]

Cant really compare 125 and 300. 300 is just way much more.

[@esteraczacharowska7651]

@@kaisuhina8024 ok. Thanks a lot for your feedback 😊

[@jasonclark4949]

Hey Kyle, great honest video on your initial impressions. What are your thoughts on the 2024 150 XC-W? I am trying to get my girlfriend interested in looking at that bike. She's 5'6" and 145lbs, a beginner rider. We are in the Northern Panhandle area of Idaho. Would love to hear your thoughts. Keep up the great work sir. Also, I am excited to see how your shop comes along over the next few months, something that is on my dream list. I will live vicariously through your channel LOL

[@nils8485]

Rieju MR Ranger models oder Beta RR XTrainer models

[@joefoster259]

Kyle - can you weigh in here?

[@natemerkle3131]

Can you just swap jugs and maps? Keeps the benefits of pds

[@jamesbrezai6711]

how do you put more power in your xcw buy the xc

[@sonnyrico]

Is there a way to change the map?

[@Shecki603]

Because when it did have the same mapping as the XC.......everyone complained that the bike was too aggresive in the gnarly terrain and it was unusable power. I have a 24 300 XC-W. I completely get what you're saying. I'm coming off of a 17 300 XC and a 23 350 XC. This motor is MUCH more mellow and def doesn't give you the hit that the XC's (or SX's for that matter do), but to say that it's slower.....a bit of a reach. Just doesn't "deliver" the power quite the same. It would be nice if KTM did an ECU update where if you were to buy a map switch (which for almost $12k, is kind of bullshit that it doesn't come with one), you'd get the throttle response you get now with the white map and the throttle response of the 23 XC with the green map. I'm sure we'll get there!

[@desmo-hu6ds]

Exactly in line with what I was thinking. Why doesn't KTM program in the ability to have many programming modes available (my street bike has five)? This is just software. With the power valve programmable, seems they can cover multiple requirements.

[@gmoriano]

Love the channel and went to buy some of your gear and we can’t order for delivery to Gold Coast in Oz……👎

[@robertm7717]

I just picked up 2 bikes 24 fx 350 and Tx 300. I’ll compare them to my other 2 15 FE 350 and 16 te 300

[@johngray722]

999lazer here in the UK sent sean over to South Africa to test all the new ktms and he said the 250 feels more powerful than the 300

[@joncooke479]

some of us watch 999 lazer here in the uk. i'm sticking to my old 03 cr250 with the cr500 engine in it's enough for me and as for nevile bradshaw he spanks the big bore two stokes

[@ronilsonsoares4194]

Good, rode my friends 22 xc today for hard enduro and it was a pain in the ass. Too snappy for that type of riding. I heard that the power is there, but its in the top end.

[@user-id8ng9eq9h]

Very experienced northeast rider here, sounds perfect…. For my area riding, give me smooth tractable power in a light weight bike and you hit a home run. On suspension, do you mean quicker pace or heavier rider ? Alway surprised me how bikes are setup for 175lb riders. After rider and gear, I think it’s a narrow set of riders in that weight range. Bike should be setup for 200lbs

[@doug_EX]

If the 2024 TBI is smoother than a 2023 TPI, Beta and Sherco will sell more bikes in the next year.