Where Should You Post Your Art?

going over a bunch of art sites and reviewing the pros and cons of each!
twitter - 1:22
insta - 4:23
tumblr - 5:40
toyhouse - 7:05
tiktok - 10:20
deviantart - 12:56
twitch - 13:46
youtube - 14:13
thank you to my bud oysterdy for helping me out with this video, his tiktok and youtube are both @oysterdy
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all art from today can be found here - artfight.net/~...

[@Qwizz]

UPDATE - i am OUT of toyhouse codes to give out and will no longer be providing them, i'm so glad some of you guys were able to join the site through this! :3 sorry to those of you who weren't able to get one :( thank you for the support and for 2k ^u^

[@aeviarth-the-dragoness]

Where can I find invite codes?

[@Enrommie]

Awww man n :(

[@wiffywiffy7896]

Dangit

[@M1styfire]

@@aeviarth-the-dragoness i was gunna Ask that ;(

[@ahseymania]

Awww :((

[@sadwasdead5065]

I am a native Tumblrite so here's my opinion of it. Tumblr, overall, is great for building relationships. it's very much "anti social media" because how many followers you have doesn't matter that much and it isn't even visible. ok yeah, if you have more followers then more people are going to see your post, but the algorithm won't boost you, because there is none. As you said, it's very fandom focused. People will go ham over any depiction of their blorbos. It also encourages weirdness and not giving a shit, so you could fill your blog with reblogs and shit posts as well as your art, but most artists have a sideblog for their art so people who are just there for their art have a place to go. HOWEVER something i want to correct you on is that tumblr has actually been making some pretty shitty updates to cater to the 1% of immigrants instead majority who don't want tumblr to change on such a large scale. Another negative is that tumblrinas, overall, can be quite annoying and if you don't get used to it, you'll grow bitter and get bullied of that site. They're very much peace and love on planet earth. it's not something that bothers me, but i didn't grow up with steven universe so i'm not exactly about all that. I should also mention that tumblrinas are just as capable of having meaningless, puritanical arguments like twitter users.

[@calmao666]

the one issue i see w this comment is that there's not much of an ''overall experiece'' to refer to, you can very easily cater and filter ur own experience by what kind of people u surround yourself with/ fandoms u interact with, the tags you filter out, people you block(wich is pretty much considered selfcare there so no one will torch u about it), etc.

[@sadwasdead5065]

@@calmao666 while almost everyone filters their dash to hell and back, some encounters you can't avoid unless you're there for one very specific thing only.

[@rommie8907]

tumblr also has absolutely horrific ads. they're all just the most random shit and i don't think tumblr moderates or checks them at all before letting them advertise on tumblr. don't get me wrong, its better than targeted advertising where they collect personal info on you but its still so odd.

[@laraprisma6381]

@@rommie8907 as a daily Tumblr user, yes ads are very annoying! worse than that is the new live option, the skins are questionable and obviously made to attract a certain group of users -_- honestly my biggest problem is the amount of porn accounts and bots on this site! but luckily I'm able to block these accounts as soon as I see them! (beware of accounts with profile pics irl) despite all that, the site is more user friendly when you know what you're looking for.

[@sadwasdead5065]

@@rommie8907 i love them. i don't even see them as ads, i just seem them as shitposts because i'm never gonna buy what they sell anyway

[@ronan5642]

Tiktok is horrible for artists, horrible! At least community wise, I would warn to stay away if you don't want to be bullied relentlessly for something random.

[@ronan5642]

Marketing wise, meh, you might gain a HUGEEE audience depending on your style. But it's extremely fickle. NOT beginner artist friendly

[@ronan5642]

Ah foink I typed this before seeing the segment whoops 😭

[@_Black.Gardenia_]

Yeah, even if you do get somewhere (like 2,000-3,000 followers, oof) TikTok will only boost “relavent to the time period” stuff. But even then, like 70% of my followers don’t even engage or get to see my post 😭

[@williammclean6594]

Like all the professional artists keep saying that you got to post there if you want to like get sales for your work because you could go viral if you're lucky randomly

[@anjaliguitaristpenguin9578]

It has really good reach but the community is so hostile

[@echothefreak9396]

6:36 To add, Tumblr can absolutely be a multi-fandom thing! You’ve just gotta create seperate blogs. The people who follow you for your Sonic art probably wont interact with your Deltarune art, UNLESS you make a seperate blog for Deltarune, in which you’ll get exclusive fans for that fandom only. It sounds like a lot to manage once the blogs pile up, but as long as you aren’t focused on a “consistent schedule” for all of them(nobody on tumblr cares about that), it’s pretty chill.

[@naniyotaka]

Do originals have any chance on Tumblr? I mean, I’m a Sonic fan so that will work for my Sonic comic book but after that I will move to original stories and I have no idea which site would work for that.

[@НяшкаОртодокс]

why can't different people engage with the same blog just not with all posts, i don't want to create a separate blog for 3 pieces of fan art of something that is not my main fix only to leave it dead forever, ending up with like 15 accounts, i've seen people with content of multiple fandoms and deascent engagement, tho it was before 2020s, maybe things changed?

[@Waspinmymind]

@@naniyotakaYes, everyone has a better chance on tumbler.

[@Waspinmymind]

@@НяшкаОртодоксYou can you can literally just tag certain fandoms on one blog.

[@asherixDG]

@@НяшкаОртодокс I think if it is just a one time thing you don't need to make a separate blog for it

[@annaytofii1010]

As someone who still posts on instagram, the new update sucks. They removed the 'newest' section in hashtags and replaced it with 'newest top post' which honestly imo does not make sense what was the point of that. And bcus of that, small artists have an even harder time in trying to grow their acc unless they CONSTANTLY post reels and joining trends in hopes that it might get picked up by the algo. And I also heard from some art moots of mine that Reddit is a great way to advertise your commissions (thru subreddits like r/artcommissions and r/hungryartists) Though you'd have to build up your karma points first. I have yet to try advertising there but just wanted to let you know incase you wanna try it for yourself! :]]

[@Qwizz]

thank you for the input!! thats dumb, i feel like the point of tags is to find a variety of stuff in a category you're interested in anyway :/ whats the point of making it the top posts if theyre likely to just appear in your regular feed?? i actually never thought abt reddit! that's a good idea :3

[@Quantum.Quasarrr]

My posts have flopped hard since that update. It’s very disheartening especially when you spend hours at a time on your work

[@Meckolo]

I will chime in since i’ve been a new artist on instagram recently and have a few things to add, this new update really fucked with getting new people to see your art especially if you’re a new account, if people aren’t actively following the hashtag and it shows up in their feed it can go completely unnoticed, i’ve noticed this recently as my new growing account stopped growing and would only be shown to my same followers over and over, 2, unless you’re in a bustling active community or fandom it’s VERY hard to get people to see your art especially if it’s oc related or such because people just don’t really care for it most of the time (i suppose this could be every social media but instagram too) NOT TO MENTION! Just how annoying this new update is, not only is it pointless but it makes it really hard to find new artists in small sub-communities in communities, i used to love scrolling the new posts just to see what people had made and now it’s not possible, hashtags are practically pointless and making reels is one of the only viable ways to get off the ground on that app, it SUCKS most of the time That’s all i had to add to it, instagram has a VERY VERY shitty algorithm for artists so it’s definitely not the best option imo but if you’re reading this trying to figure out what platform to use you can use this advice as you want

[@НяшкаОртодокс]

@@Meckolo i hate how it makes viewer's experience worse too, like it hinders variety so much, it feels like how Hollywood's only wanting to milk preexisting IP

[@Azmetrex]

Can confirm Reddit is a really good way to go. I've been posting on r/doodles and will get 5 times more likes than Instagram a lot of the time. Plus I get more comment engagement. On Instagram I barely even have 115 followers after 2 years and my highest liked post was a reel with ~400 likes. Pretty sad, but to be fair my art is mostly random sketches and doodles. Before the update I can sometimes get 25 likes on a post if lucky tho. Now only people following me like my post and most of my followers are inactive or bots. 😭 So it's back to 3-6 likes again. The only thing about Reddit is that it's very hit or miss, and anything fandom related should be posted in fandom subreddits instead of random art subreddits. You can still do both, but the fandom subs would appreciate it more. ;)

[@Koispeck]

I’m taking this as an opportunity to step back from social media and work on my artwork privately I’m currently in the process of writing my comic and I’m having way more fun than posting actively on social media. I’d recommend a break for anyone who might be jaded by social media rn.

[@Xanniebyte]

If you need any help I’d love to help :3

[@Koispeck]

@@Xanniebyte Help with what?

[@Xanniebyte]

@@Koispeck the comic! Sorry for not being clear lol

[@twotruckslyrics]

stepping back and taking a breather is always better😊

[@peachypastella8647]

As someone who felt alienated in most places (especially Instagram, it is a pretty non-social platform now that is only used to farm engagement instead of make friends), I have been taking a break... But loneliness still gets to me sometimes. I used to post here but the algorithm feels pretty specific and the comments can get Twitter horrible at times (not as bad as other places, but still). I'm taking it into consideration, but it will be quite a while until I get comfortable to post again. I struggle socially so when I think about how anti-social "social media" has become it gives almost like a PTSD feeling for me.

[@matuili2633]

So basically, here's what I understood. The two highest-rated social media sites were Tumblr and KZbin, BUT, these two sites have significant differences, and cater to different kinds of artists. *Tumblr:* Mostly for fandom artists, who want to interact with others more directly and don't want to/can't maintain a consistent upload schedule. Being consistent isn't so important because Tumblr doesn't have an algorithm, so reach is mainly based on reblogs (an equivalent to retweets, for Twitter people). *KZbin:* Can be for fandom artists, but it's best for artists who focus on their own work/stories/OCs, which do not pertain to a certain fandom. Also, since the algorithm has a lot of influence over what content gets reached, you must maintain a consistent upload schedule, otherwise you won't grow.

[@Raexai]

i mean there’s some of those accounts that do those short stories that are extremely high quality and have barely any posts, it’s also probably to do with advertising, but it’s mostly luck with the algorithm idk just bullshit imo

[@Gann4Life]

KZbin? For sharing art? Sure if you make videos about it...

[@thunderclancat123]

I originally was a tumblr artist when i started out, along with dA (like, 2012 era) and eventually moved to instagram. I had gotten a very decent following, around 5k followers, and something happened irl so i didnt post for a month or two, and when i came back, every single one of my posts would give me negative followers. I would barely get any likes compared to before. Like, id consistently get 100-300 likes each post, but it turned into 10-20. This was like 2016, 2017.. it hurt my self esteem so bad i stopped drawing for a year. When i came back, i started posting to Twitter, and I liked that a lot more because there was no pressure to post constantly. And if you go through it the smart way, you basically see no drama at all, just other people who post only art. But now that its being rebranded to X and all this other bullcrap, im trying to find somewhere else, but theres nothing

[@Meckolo]

i feel a similar way about youtube, since it’s all about animating and making videos consistently when i don’t upload for a while my videos barely reach anyone, i’ll lose subscribers and my videos will max out at the same amount of views like everytime 💀 it REALLY sucks and is super demotivating, instagram is awful with that kind of stuff and it’s really a ‘post on a daily basis or get kicked in the gut by the algorithm’ kind of policy it’s ass.

[@НяшкаОртодокс]

ilon musk will be remembered as the person who managed to kill twitter for every posible demografic unironically

[@AaAa-o9e2h]

Is it really ok to just make an account on ONE social media? Im kinda worried that other people might create an account under the same name as mine on ANOTHER platform...? Idk what to do ahahah

[@phasmine_]

@@AaAa-o9e2hyou can always make placeholder accounts and not post anything on them! That’s what I do

[@sugarrmoon]

i suggest going back to tumblr, its a very chill site and followers matter very little. pretty much every post of yours can get lots of likes if you're posting fandom stuff. but, like the video said, if its not fandom and your ocs dont have much of an established plot not much people care sadly... im very much a fandom artist though so i like tumblr quite a lot.

[@pokette]

I like toyhouse but one other potentially major con is the site is run by pretty much just one person, 1. tickets take a long time to get to, people don't get banned for obscene content, bans that _are_ issued can just as easily be on false grounds without any prior warning, and again tickets take a long time to get to if at all so it's nearly impossible to even appeal

[@Qwizz]

the mod NEEDS to hire more people it has been a huge irritation of mine for a while...people get banned if they get mass reported even if the grounds are wrong, its super annoying.. for being one mod they are more involved than id think theyd be but they js really need to use the revenue for something and hire mods

[@portobeIIa]

not to say it's a really... remote, community too. i've discovered plenty new artists through toyhouse, but that's as far as it goes... i saw them. and them immediately looked up for their OTHER socials where i could see their art in a more digestible way. i feel like toyhouse is too underground still and on par with the current state of deviantart, where people will only stay active if they partake in the whole "closed species - do not steal" ordeal.

[@_Black.Gardenia_]

@@portobeIIa+ it’s not really “new user” friendly, it basically shoves a whole bunch of stuff in your face and expects you to figure it out on your own

[@cockenballtorture]

honestly i just use it to store my ocs

[@portobeIIa]

@@_Black.Gardenia_ it definetly isnt someones first social media, it's target audience is people that already have something else as their main, which is weird but not a big deal

[@bipianeghost]

when ur main social media is scratch 💀 (a kids coding website with a surprisingly large art/animation community) (its mainly warrior cats fanfic comics and theyre mostly suspiciously good)

[@shadicy]

HAHAHAHA SAME

[@randomperson-kx6mv]

I used Scratch so much when I was younger 😭 And I still use it!! But I've moved the bulk of my presence to other sites because I've had a ton of problems with art theft there (nine year olds horribly recoloring my stuff and claiming it's theirs smh).

[@bipianeghost]

@@randomperson-kx6mv that sucks dude, I either lucked out and haven't had that happen yet or I js haven't caught em' yet 💀

[@Number_1_crewmate]

I freaking love scratch!! It’s so satisfying to draw on it!

[@Raccoonboi634]

IM NOT ALONE

[@isyahtajul]

1:24 - Twitter 4:24 - Instagram 5:41 - Tumblr 7:07 - Toyhouse 10:22 - TikTok 12:56 - DeviantArt 13:47 - twitch 14:15 - KZbin

[@Veronica_Collins]

Thanks for the timestamps!! :DD

[@Jowellee2]

What I like the most about DeviantArt is that I've always only had postive interactions with people, even with art that reached 10k+ people. I do bad with criticism so it feels like a safe space for me ! 🙏

[@LovelyAngel.]

You're so lucky! I was using Deviant art around 2010 but had to quit because a girl from another forum where I was active targeted me with her other friend and they were leaving tons of hate comments under anything I posted to a point that I just stopped posting because it was annoying. Like, I would draw something together with my classmate at school and she'd ask me to post a scan of it on DA, so that she can also access it but 5 minutes after posting there would be like 20 comments full of swearing and bad energy left by 1-2 people.

[@Jowellee2]

@@LovelyAngel. Ohhh no that is horrible ! Kids can be so mean, I totally get why you would leave DA then. Maybe since nobody knows what my account is is why I feel safe ; people comment on it for the art, not the artist and personnal random grudge 🤔

[@bunilla3856]

a good tip if you want to post on social media is to get comfortable with how your art feels to you first. dont start posting on social media if you still have the mindset that the amount of views/likes/follows/commissions line up with your art quality. bc thanks to shitty algorithms, that is absolutely not what it means. you will have to be fine with not having much engagement for a while. and on most sites, you likely wont get commissions unless you've already built up a bit of a following of people that like your art. so honestly, literally just draw what makes you feel good and try and post consistently, and eventually you'll start to get somewhere. remember that its different for everyone, and the algorithm is like a lottery game. dont compare yourself to friends or others that have already built up a following, bc honestly, the internet picks things at complete random to blow up. so pls, just hang in there- social media is a tough place and can tear your mental health apart. if you feel stuck with all these sites bc nothing's working, take a small break and just draw for yourself and maybe some friends for a while. please trust me when i say that just because you dont get reach on social media does not mean ur art sucks or people hate you. (if ppl hated ya, you would definitely know thanks to cancel culture.) people just havent had a chance to see your work yet, and patience is really key.

[@cjcrimson67]

Definitely. I started on DA with this mindset (I was like- 10 at the time so I was definitely more interested in being popular for my art than enjoying it myself) I posted constantly, yet no matter what I did, I’d only get 1-3 likes. At first I didn’t really care cause I don’t think I realized how much “likes and engagement” mattered to people. Seeing how many people had that kind of treatment, it made me feel like my art wasn’t good. Stopped posting for a really long time and when I finally got back to it (improving all the while) I started posting again- this time not really caring and using DA more as a storage place. I went from 60 followers to 136 followers in a month(?) Tags help a lot, if anyone decides to use DA. Spamming tags seems stupid but it really helps the algorithm.

[@liljatupsu]

For the past few years I've mostly stuck to posting my art on a small gaming forum, a few discord servers and artfight, and it's really helped me detach from numbers. All of my likes are from friends, and on artfight there aren't any likes at all, just points (based entirely of effort and rated by you) and comments. It's a lot more rewarding if the act of drawing itself is the motivation, and not the attention. (Also when I was like 15, a younger online friend got jealous because I had more _profile views_ on DeviantArt. Which is really freaking funny because profile views matter even less than normal views, and have nothing to do with whether or not people actually like your art or not. To top it off their account was a few weeks old while I had been on the site for at least two ears at that point lol)

[@pumpkinsartz]

Personally i use discord to post my art. It sparks up conversation between me and my friends and sometimes with complete strangers. Also fun fact about Instagram, they messed up their algorithm system, it’s impossible to start out as an artist because tags dont work anymore and reels are the only things that get pushed.

[@_Black.Gardenia_]

:(

[@sidneycitrus]

YES god i hate instagram's new hashtag change 😭 there's literally no good reason to deny us from seeing new posts first when looking at tags, it sucks

[@jammin5255]

Also I’ve notice my home feed filled with only reels??? I loved getting posts of my favorite artists and then videos from people I don’t follow show way too often I’m tired of it 😭

[@sidneycitrus]

@@jammin5255 exactlyyy, i feel like followers don't even mean anything anymore because of how they ruined the home feed. you barely see the posts from people you follow because they're drowned out by reels from people you *don't* follow 😭😭 and dude i hate how you practically NEED to make reels now to get popular on instagram

[@melodicholy]

I hate reels so much, they only exist so instagram can compete with tiktok

[@azurewishes]

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[@plantishfellow]

Artfol

[@heelturn2]

sketchers united

[@TRINHPXL]

inkblot, artfol - community based but still niche

[@MaceTLOF]

@@heelturn2 best website

[@TophatPie]

Literally newgrounds

[@hoodie_cave]

The bots on Instagram are definitely SUPER rampant, they're constantly looking at & liking my stories. There's actually a way to filter the phrases people can use in your comments in the settings under "Hidden Words" and then "Manage custom words and phrases" that lets you write a list of words that people can't comment, I've put in the common bot phrases and that's been pretty effective for me. I've also been considering getting a Tumblr, so I might get one thanks to this video! :D

[@kirr3ne]

SERIOUSLY! i post my art on insta sometimes, and every damn time i post, there's gonna almost always be a bot. commenting and liking my post. and also, I reccomend getting a tumblr! although since tumblr is more fandom based, original oc art doesn't get that much attention unfortunately. I posted my oc art there and no one batted an eye :/ but that's just one of the cons, imo. the algorithm is definitely way more forgiving there instead of instagram.

[@portobeIIa]

i love toyhouse so, so much!! it's so cozy and oldschool, i love websites with custom HTML and i think we really should have more of that on the internet. i'm COMPLETELLY against the whole "closed species/adoptables/do not steal" ordeal, i think that can go wrong very fast, and that is the sole reason i never joined deviantart, but toyhouse is so much more than that, that even I cant help but spend time there and looking at pretty definetly-not-furry art.

[@freminet_main]

Is toyhouse only for furrys? What if I design human original characters and want to sell them? Would that be ok for me?

[@salt187]

I feel like there basically isn't any good site for artists right now. I've been holding off on posting my art for literal years, I recently finally caved after seeing people's reaction to my work at an exhibition (and after my friends kept begging me to), I was genuinely so touched and just want people to be able to enjoy my work and maybe build a name for myself but with all the recent ai stuff, toxic trends and horribly run sites I feel like I can't really move anywhere. So far I'm only on tumblr but genuinely have zero reach there, probably since most people are more active on twitter instead. Seriously, what a horrible time to be an artist on the internet. I can't even imagine what artists whose livelihood depends on their socials must feel like right now

[@Raexai]

literally me, the impending doom is real. best way for ig artists to grow is to make gc with other artists , and that’s literally the only way u will get noticed. def drop ur handle i’d love to check ur art out :3

[@Most-sane-deltarune-fan]

@@Raexai Make gc?

[@Raexai]

@Most-sane-deltarune-fan I'm not really on there but I'm down, the user is raexai :3

[@Raexai]

@Most-sane-deltarune-fan i could make a discord instead tho if u use that

[@brikkets]

as an artist who is also online, i definitely agree with a lot of what was said here. it's so difficult to find a site that's friendly and easy to use, especially if you're a newer artist. i remember when buzzly was opened, i really liked it so it's unfortunate that the creators turned out to be weird. :[

[@Qwizz]

the buzzly situation ..was such a disaster... it looked like such a promising site too :[

[@BewilderedCitrus]

What happened with buzzly? I've never even heard of it til now.

[@gibbit_]

i was a tiktok artist (specifically frame by frame animator) for a very brief time from 2021 to 2022 and i cannot put into words how much i do not recommend it tiktoks algorithm LOVES it when you post frequently and consistently which leads to burnout and churning out low quality context the big numbers and engagement in the beginning are hella validating and get you that dopamine rush but long term unless you burn yourself out making near daily tiktoks youre gonna lose a LOT of that engagement

[@hotworlds]

My experience on Tumblr has always been very similar to twitter with the callouts. Especially within certain fandoms. Sometimes it'll be over stuff as small as liking the wrong TV shows lol. But it's usually okay. I think that's just how the internet is these days.

[@ranchustars3050]

ive never experienced that as someone who posts on tumblr, I honestly think its pretty good.

[@calmao666]

only time i've seen a callout do the rounds on tumblr is bcause someone dragged that beef from twitter

[@laraprisma6381]

yeah, believe me, a friend and I have been through something similar! my friend kind of had a fight with another artist, first they were kind of inserting their character in some of her au's in a way that didn't respect her stories, then she criticized their oc calling her a mary sue, and after that the person simply created a hate for my friend and started to doxx her through her other social networks! or at least tried. then they tried to be my friend but as soon as i started pointing out the shit they did they started attacking me too! wishing harm to me and her in a very pathetic way. I responded as best I could, just saying it was pathetic and not getting to me. they kept doing this when anonymous in my ask box to a point I had to report them! then they stopped. it was really crazy. my friend is fine now, she's been doing some comics with a friend of hers, we don't talk much, but as long as she's fine, that's what matters.

[@angela8071]

i once posted a monster high fanart of cleo de nile in ancient traditional egiptyan garments (which were a little revealing bc it was the 200 BC) and someone on Tumblr called me a pedophile because the character is supposed to be 16, despite actually being like thousands of y/o

[@Waspinmymind]

You can block those call posts on tumblr. You can block those people who make those post on tumblr and never see them again.

[@suitNtie22]

this is very interesting. Im very bad at being in online communities so its nice to see from the perspective of someone whos good at digging into that side of things. very illuminating video

[@Catasple]

I want to start actually being active about posting my art, as ive had a tendency to just. Not post or even draw anything (executive dysfunction levels: catastrophic). But I am always just so picky about the platform. I like Tumblr cause I don't have to subject myself to algorithmic content- nor do i have to make myself follow a trend or a certain way to do things for ppl to find my art. I like that tiktok has more reach but it kinda feels like selling my soul (also im terrible at technology and idk how to make videos awgdhdj). Plus coupled with the toxicity (on twitter too), idk if i wanna do that. Instagram also practically has no good way to reach ppl nowadays either. Reality is, i think i probably just need to get off my ass and be more willing to do the whole short video scheduled content awhsjdhdjdh

[@deltalunaris]

I'm in the same boat personally (dysfunction included, unless it's art for others lol), and I really don't like that shorts are becoming the norm. I'm having to accept that I'll probably have to do them anyway, but it feels extremely counterintuitive for what my creative vision is. What hurts worse is that platforms are proactively encouraging the format for the sake of views, clicks, user engagement, etc. Art is ever evolving, but this feels like intentional pigeonholing. Any one of us who has been in a 'do art for work not fun' mindset knows how soul destroying it eventually becomes. How much art will you be able to produce in a short time before you suffer burnout? Nobody can be an organic being with needs and a pump-out machine at the same time. Always remember that art is the greatest form of revolution. Be wary of those who seek to bleed us of our ink, for profit and for control over our medium.

[@oysterdy]

Thanks for letting me join in on this!!! Awesome video and awesome concept! I’m sure this’ll help a lot of artists. I also really like the editing in this one :3

[@randomcommenter9839]

Something I want to add that I love about tumblr is that there is no pressure to be consistent and post art at least once a week, you can be gone for weeks or months and once you come back people will continue to like and reblog the things you post! Even something that you made years ago will probably continue getting engagement if people continue to reblog it, so it’s great for artists who are busy with work or school :3

[@LillianGraceFullofficial]

Newgrounds is very artist friendly, in fact it’s made for artists! it’s pretty underrated tho

[@dimetrodonz]

if toyhouse had a section of the website for actual art uploads, not just characters or forums, it would be the only site i used! but i do a lot of non-OC specific art too and want a place for it.

[@hu7380]

I'd say with Tumblr it's a little challenging for newer artists/just posting on it, as much as I do enjoy that the site isn't follower based and its fandom oriented; it HAS to be a popular/active fandom (or one that's well known) which sucks. I only say this because I have a friend who's art is so edible but the only posts that blow up are the amanda the adventure ones rather than her Powerpuff girl ones when they take the same amount of effort. And this isn't trying to say that every post has to blow up but when 2 posts made for one fandom and multiple for another are made and only the two of the more popular/active fandom gets attention, you see what I mean. (This could even go for me, Piconjo cover redraw (FNF) got more attention than an oc-based one for BATIM; it has to be something people are actively searching for ykwim).

[@T.JacobMain]

that's so true but also i think sometimes a lot of art can be overshadowed if the fandom there is like super popular and has very famous recognizable artists there. one of my fanarts blew up, but one did not get any attention which i feel like is just a big fandom issue

[@hu7380]

@@T.JacobMain Yeah, it definitely sucks sometimes and as much as we love seeing talented artist getting the attention and recognition they deserve, it feels disheartening when your own work can barely make it off the ground at all and you'd think with big fandoms, people are more likely to see your work better but no🥲

[@CIPHERINATOR]

True. I do oc art and only my followers and friends really see it or like it. The occasional reblog if it’s good. Someone once reblogged a bunch of my art tho and it was the best day of my life lmao

[@reebee6020]

I used to be an instagram artist. At first, things were pretty okay, but it felt really lonely on there, and the only "friends" i had on there were people from school. But then i ditched insta and moved to twitter, again, things were fine at first, i made more friends, found an amazing community i can call home, and i even met my partner though twitter! But after the countless terrible updates elon made to it, mixed with the constant toxicity and the fact that my most popular art was something that kinda started drama, and i had to delete it. I had enough, and I'm now just a discord artist Though I'm gonna be real. Being a discord artist is great! It's just me sharing my art in these little spaces that make me feel comfortable. Yes, i don't have as big of following on Discord, but honestly, having friends that i can just show my silly art to and they'd give fun feedback is enough to make me happy.

[@deconstructiveflea]

This is such a helpful video!! Thanks for making it! It's relieving to hear I'm not the only one who feels like posting on instagram feels like trying to have a conversation with a bunch of robots or like npcs or something

[@wawashake2763]

As someone who is.. I guess not really beginner artist anymore since I’ve been drawing since I was much younger, i don’t have much to say about other websites besides discord. I really like it- since in the servers I post my art in right now, they both are very positive. It makes me feel better about my art and I love posting it since it’s great to get positive reactions, especially since one of the servers doesn’t even allow negative reactions haha 😂 but yeah, besides from my experience I’d recommend it for posting art. But there are probably some servers that are just too toxic for that so just make sure it’s safe! You can also tell by just how people generally act there

[@jibrilthethingart]

I just started using Instagram in early July- and I had NO IDEA there was an update and I can say- YEAH the update sucks very much because the hashtags do not work at ALL. The only kind of redeeming quality is that I make reels but even they don’t reach a lot of people most of the time

[@See_The_Stars]

I'm watching this video and it's pretty good so far! Can't want to see what you have next!

[@CreativeFiddler]

I’m looking to move sites, DA is just not what is used to be and the Ai pretty much put the nail in the coffin, it's hard to find newer artist and people don't really interact much anymore. I plan on using it as an archive cause i cant seem to let go of it, and to sell adopts cause people still buy stuff over there at least. Gonna give Tumblr another swing, but i don't usually do much fandom art :’) I do have plans to make a comic and i see those OC AMA pop up every now and then, they look like a lot of fun! Fingers crossed for a new GOOD art site someday

[@nearje1031]

I was just looking for something like this! Thanks for the information on the sites!

[@Lux_TheAurora]

I LITERALLY NEEDED THIS SO MUCH omg it's been so hard for me to decide

[@UserOffTheInternet]

Tbh so far insta seems the least hostile. I have some folks who post there and they genuinely have a great fanbase there, and stealing art is WAY less in instagram.

[@Most-sane-deltarune-fan]

As a fellow Instagram user, it's pretty cool in general.

[@wondaraptor]

Thank you for your rate! This question was in my head for a looong time

[@prism0swag]

Hey! You should cover Bluesky if you want! I know it’s very new, but I think it already has a lot of potential, and already pretty intensely supports artists!

[@Henry-kd1mu]

11:40 WHY IS THIS SO FUNNY "I draw too slow 😓" 😭😭 SAMEE

[@TBG1]

I personally like toyhouse, bcus it feels more private to me. Proud to say that I only gained one follower bcus I mentioned my toyhouse in my artfight profile. It just feels more like a private place with less pressure from likes and shares, etc. On the other hand, I don't make money off of art and only draw for me, myself and I

[@clowniicat]

Your art is so cute!!! May draw one of your ocs For me, I like toyhouse since I make HTML codes, it's nice seeing people using them. I also like going on the HTML/CSS & Graphics forum and looking at other people's codes or helping people when I can, since the site is so small I know most of the main coders and it's nice seeing new ones and giving them resources to learn HTML

[@4SKERR]

thank you so much for making this! although im still indecisive, im overall an indecisive person but this will help me consider a lot

[@izaiahcrockett2692]

Fell down the KZbin rabbit hole of your videos and just wanted stop by and say I love your content. Keep up the great work! (Very sad I missed out on the Toyhouse codes 😭)

[@DingoDuplimicus]

Lmao, I recently had to delete deviant art bc of the amount of inappropriate artworks flooding my page, the majority of artists that haven’t left deviant art are just fetish artists

[@trycheesebread55]

I created an account there to see how it works but I felt like DeviantArt is weird somehow

[@fabled-skies]

The pokemon fandom on dA is scary, though I've only been following a few comic artists there, so it's not as bad, thankfully

[@batwolfy7044]

Personally, I decided to stay because it’s the one site I had always posted my art. (Not a fetish artist btw.) It also helps if you use the thing in settings that makes you block certain hashtags. So that art pieces with those hashtags won’t show up. But that would require you to know fetishes and the many different tags that are used for them. You’d be surprised at how creative people can get.

[@zephyrias]

@@batwolfy7044same here! Just wholesome art for RP groups and comics. I mainly read lots of Nuzlockes. 😂 some were so good I LMAO’d constantly.

[@cjcrimson67]

I was/still am a DA artist. I stopped posting mainly from self esteem issues but the fetish shit was definitely on that list on why I stopped using it as well. Recently I started using it again, and I just avoid the main page at all costs and just use it as a storage place for my art. Which was ironic considering that’s when my art started getting likes and I got more followers. DA is definitely a weird site… no doubt about it. But once you get past the fetish art, some of the artists on DA are really fucking good.

[@laraprisma6381]

Tumblr has become a comfort zone for me, I can talk to people who share the same interests as I have, I've met a lot of friends and I've met a lot of nice people, the latest live update bothers me a lot because of the live covers that they appear to me to be very... questionable... and it's also very annoying to research a specific topic and all of a sudden there's a porn account full of random tags just to get the attention of specific groups! it annoys me!! but other than that and some toxic people I've met there, it's definitely the best site to post my art, fanfics (yes, I'm cringe) and comics and make different blogs. Definitely recommend, don't let negative comments about the site affect your opinion. I also thought it was bad at first until I started posting there!

[@randomartist_1]

honestly considering sharing my art on tumblr after watching this. i never bothered to share my art cuz it was always just for me, and i didnt wanna deal with anyone bullying me for what i drew. but i do have a tumblr acc soooo

[@CorriTopaz]

I almost feel like giving up on trying to post art to get commissions, which is something I've been wanting to do for years and one of my friends sometimes encourages me to. But I can never get there thanks to my lack of motivation to draw and post often and my art is mediocre at best. Ever since I got Instagram back in 2017, my like numbers never increased because I don't post often. I always get 10-20 likes per post, sometimes less. When I got Twitter in 2019, the algorithm never showed my posts to anyone. I remember getting Tumblr I think in 2018, but didn't know how to use it. I got TikTok in 2020 and... ehh... they get views, but no interactions. I'm starting to give my hopes up at this point. Social platforms don't support me all because I don't have the energy to constantly post daily and I don't know how to set up commission stuff.

[@CirqueDuSomni]

I suck at managing my social media and marketing myself and my art

[@Qwizz]

nah bc sometimes i just forget one of my social medias even exist and permanently go inactive on it...

[@shadicy]

@@QwizzHELPP SAME

[@quik_sylver]

I honestly do not understand Twitter at all 😭😭When I first joined I got commissions pretty quick, but only for like a week? Then, suddenly, my account DIED. Like forget likes, my posts weren’t even being viewed 😭I tried every tip, like interacting loads with other artists, hosting raffles, I even did some events offering free doodles, but my account literally felt like it didn’t even exist on the website 😭😭 Surprisingly, Instagram is my highest reaching social media, which is honestly a bit sad considering Instagram has killed hashtags and just leaves artists to perish nowadays LOL. My KZbin is doing ok, but growth is super slow. The problem might be that I don’t post enough on here because I put a lot of hours into my animations, but I really don’t wanna post low-effort headbops all the time 😅Just praying the social media gods will pity me one day, it is BRUTAL out here

[@kinetichai]

I feel you on twitter, the exact same thing happened to me. 20-30 likes per post to a sudden account death :(

[@wachtmuz1ek]

8:58 on the topic of popular designers: i got an awoouf design through one of those guess the number giveaways in their server, and i kid you not, literally less than 48 hours after i made the account for the character, he (the character) was stolen and was getting sold for like $30 (again, he was free since he was from a giveaway). thankfully, someone in the server stumbled upon this, let me know, and we were able to get the person to delete it. that's a big downside of toyhouse as well. love the vid !!

[@Xxbanana1998xX]

Newgrounds is goated for art honestly! There are so many talented artists and it isn't a toxic wasteland like other social medias.

[@Amoreaska]

your art is so cute hello tbh im also struggling with this! been a twitter person for a while and its the worst thing ever LOL theres way more factors that makes it terrible (as a community) ngl... i never knew how to use toyhouse as a social media so i just dump my chars like a google drive RIP either way this was pretty informative thank u sm! new sub~*

[@anjali_zombie]

these videos are so helpful keep it up!! also i love your voice 😍

[@MelodyArtiez]

i use all of them (EXCEPT tiktok because its banned in my country)

[@trycheesebread55]

which country do you live

[@MelodyArtiez]

@@trycheesebread55 hong kong

[@trycheesebread55]

@@MelodyArtiez is Asus from Hong Kong?

[@MelodyArtiez]

@@trycheesebread55 what

[@trycheesebread55]

@@MelodyArtiez that company that produces the RoG Phone

[@tokiimori]

I actually started out on amino back when it was in its prime. I moved to discord, Instagram and I plan to start a KZbin soon where I post speedpaints and some animation work :)

[@demitriax]

ive had this exacct thought recently bro ARE YOU READING MY MIND IS KZbin READING MY MIND??!?!

[@evagand]

Twitch is great! It requires a lot of connections if you don’t have an existing social media presence, but it’s easy to meet people who will hang out on your streams! Finding a community you click with isn’t hard and as a plus, you make new friends in addition to a solid side-income ❤

[@HELLERLINE]

I honestly have no idea where to post my art so I just post it everywhere lol

[@grapeyv]

NEWGROUNDS, NEWGROUNDS NEWGROUNDS NEWGROUNDS

[@Draco_Jazz42]

As an Instagram user who's been around since 2020, I'd personally view Instagram's art community as very similar to twitter. Sure its not a hellscape for drama but it is filled with people who are a lil too invested in PC culture, much like in twitter and god forbid you have an opinion thats different from everyone else on the matter. Not only that but the often unessecarily mean comments (especially disabled people) in reels just went from a 1 to 100 within a very short period of time throughout 2023 and its just depressing to see. On top of the horrific reach artists tend to get (which has only been getting worse btw), its overall becoming a worse and worse experience

[@FeelngGrey]

What social media do you post your art on? Me: Scratch Them: what Me: S C R A T C H

[@mallowskycotl]

In conclusion, almost every art sharing site is ass 😭😭😭 Honestly I gave up on sharing art on pretty much every site, even amino is a pain now because of how many damn bot accounts there are

[@jadethegem5084]

Honestly, I'm already on Insta and thought Insta was the best at the time. But, now I can see I might wanna post my art to Twitter for more. Thanks.

[@ARCHIVED9610]

6:25 Yes!! ive found that my regular doodles have gotten like 10 maybe 20 notes, but my pokemon and rain world meme stuff has gotten 100+! edit: i was also one of the people to quit after the ai mess. had to check the “LEAVE MY ART OUT OF THE GENERATOR” box on alll of my art just to find out that was uselesss 😅

[@clownjev]

from personal experience of commissions, discord art/ art community servers, (I.E chimereon server) are great for advertising commissions/ychs ect although on some pop designer servers can get a bit hectic, yknow the deal

[@DoktorBeta]

my first thought on seeing the title was "Nowhere! Don't post art! Don't make art!" lmfao

[@obvfw]

This is exactly the video I needed to convince me to leave dA for good. The site already took a nosedive when they "revamped" it and removed custom HTML for user pages. The AI thing was just another nail in the coffin.

[@feneron5797]

So there's NO adequate platform for artists ( just like there's no perfect social platform in general ). This is sad.

[@Hyperpopnet1825]

newgrounds is a platform made for artists to share their work and is completely free to use

[@cryppi1510]

Omg, we need THE art website please xD I've been thinking about this too, cause I haven't been sure where to post my stuff

[@kirbystar500]

I found more success posting my art on deviantart than on twitter. with that said i think da is better than twitter

[@frog6045]

newgrounds RAHHHH 🥶🥶

[@MicalMical111]

A lot of twitter artists are going to bluesky (I don't post on twitter but I'm there too). It's not too bad, needs work but not bad. There doesn't seem to be much of an algorithm at the moment, atleast not as bad as insta. You only really get likes there if you were already popular somewhere else though.

[@zephyrias]

Whats the website link? You can put it separated by spaces. A google search comes up with different things

[@Banananyaners]

11:53 I had an experience on tiktok and was shown first hand how cruel the algorithm can be to artists. Basically how it went down is I posted joke fanart of luigi x bowser, gained 5k followers, and the vid reached about 100k views or so with a couple thousand followers. The post directly after that received no attention whatsoever. I posted another joke fanart of john eggbert from homestuck and got another solid 10k views and a couple hundred likes. After that, I then only continued to receive roughly 200 views and 20 likes on every video. This hurt my account TREMENDOUSLY considering I even posted daily and followed the trends. Tiktok is awful for small artists because if you weren’t popular about 3-4 years ago then there is basically no hope for you in the algorithm. They even start unfairly banning and taking down your videos after a while too. So yeah, if you’re looking to use tiktok, I would heavily suggest against it unless you fake being trash at art or create sam does art type drawings because there is quite literally no interest in anything else at the moment at all.

[@Banananyaners]

Keep in mind the 2 videos that I mentioned blew up were fandom videos and trends that I just happened to jump on early/ in the middle of.

[@flamingjune7815]

I'm an artist with issues posting online cuz of judging and stuff, ill probably just try and get a toyhouse if I can get an invite code sometime in the next year lol.

[@Finn-bn1hr]

please please please do not post your art on instagram, you work will be fed to ai programs, instagram is NOT safe

[@tirramasu7948]

I tried Instagram. No one has even seen my art.

[@Most-sane-deltarune-fan]

4:09 - great job! Even calling it X-Mas wouldn't save it.

[@Nina-pt9nn]

This was so informative!

[@elgatogamerpro8940]

You are completely right,!!! What the heck is going on with people complaining about followings. Once I saw a drama queen complaining about people who follow “x” person. She proceeded to tag literally everyone who followed her and told them passive-aggressively to stop following “x” person because she didn’t like an opinion that person gave. Jeeezz people like that is completely annoyingggggggggggggg

[@kimpieolinkie794]

istg at this point ill just print my art and glue it to lampposts outside 💀 why cant we just have an app that has it all bro 😭

[@mysterionz]

I used to be on insta and it fell from grace. I mainly do DA now although it’s not the best out there, I’d rather have more reach than no reach at all

[@zephyrias]

I still use DA for the Rp groups connections and nuzlocke comics. 😂

[@RustPup]

I've started trying to post art and what not recently and I'm mostly struggling to find community, deviantart I've found is the best I've gotten to kinda meet ppl but i also can't post the little animation things I've started doing on there. some things though are i care a bit more abt making connections than having a ton of views, i like talking to ppl

[@nashalythedrawer]

Instagram artist here, yeah insta has gone down hill for artist. I used Instagram for like years to upload my art, every update Instagram has done made the algorithm worse and worse. Back then before reels, if you had enough comments or save in your post you’ll get notice from the algorithm. Nowadays it’s all about reels or trends to get notice which is saddening since insta was known as a photos app. I still use Instagram since that’s where most of my art moots I made over the years are at. The hashtags are horrible.

[@iamaylacat3935]

I'm looking at the title and thumbnail, and my response is literally just all at once lol.

[@Marshy_The_Mello]

I was regretting not using twitter when it was good and as soon as I saw that Elon brought it I knew it was over lol I have considered tumblr though :)

[@alex1sovo]

i might make an account on almost all of these bro 💀 (i need my art seen)

[@StoryTeller796]

Honestly, I kind of just want to make a lot of independent projects before going on to KZbin, save them up, and then upload them on like the start of my college days or somethings like that.

[@ottk]

OMG, I am an artist from russia, and one day I found a toyhouse site, and even if I could spend some money on premium, I JIST CAN'T DO IT AND THAT IS SO SAAAAADDDDD. I don't know why the toyhose made them site so difficult to joing.. because I accually like the idea of it.. JUST KILL MEEEEE AAAAAA I'M SO SAAAADDDDD

[@JustAGrook]

they dont have big enough servers to fit the estimated demand, and not enough moderators, theres literally two of them lmao

[@vulpinecatastrophe9377]

I’ve been chillin on Tumblr for the last 7 years, it’s hell (affectionate)

[@ddlv63]

NEWGROUNDS SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@gggg2100]

Wonderful

[@digicat0719]

i post my art mainly on tumblr, discord, and deviantart, but it might just be my shitty luck or fairly young age that causes Me Not Getting Any Feedback Or Attention On My Art. it really is a hit or miss no matter where you post, i think, cuz ive got a lot of friends who have the same experience. i really wanna try toyhouse, but most of what i draw is fandom art. so i am very confused on what to dooo,,

[@babyblossom1919]

I stopped posting on Tumblr and da. I sometimes post on instagram and discord, most are my friends but it’s alright. I just have a hard time having motivation to post a lot lol 😔

[@themanthelegendjaycefingta3735]

TYSM FOR THIS! I was thinking of setting up another account for myself recently

[@mrpickles-hb6zx]

I just gave up lol😭 I like my art and that's what matters

[@shiro_naj0307]

Instagram user here, its true that the reach is horrible, like, zero frickin reach for a post (personal experience), with the addition of reels (short form video contents) it has took a toll on artists, and lately the algorithm shifted completely to favor reels over posts to feed people with the attention span of a goldfish, its a very harsh landscape and if you dont adapt to the change, then your account will remain unseen it was so bad that a community of artists are built within the app just to support eachother, if i were to rate it, it would be 2/10

[@wren2986]

ive wanted to go on toy house it sounds fun!! for the most part but ppl dont give out codes a bunch lol

[@CherryTheCat]

I always post my art on KZbin and Discord, the only 2 socials I have

[@gggg2100]

Thought-provoking

[@bakedB3VNZ]

Thanks this really helps, I’m a very small artist which means my art doesn’t get very far at all.