Where STU LIVES Stands After SCREAM VI

#screamvi Where STU LIVES Stands After SCREAM VI - (SCREAM VI Spoilers!) Now that SCREAM VI has been out for a few days let's talk about what it means for the Stu Macher Lives movement! Is Stu in Scream VI ? How exactly is Stu referenced during Scream 6? What does Scream VI mean for the future of Stu ? All that and more! Including where the Stu cult of Ghostface theory stands after Scream VI. Is there a chance he'll be in a future Scream movie? 🎃 Join us on Patreon so we can make more content and get the WWAM up in everybody MICHAEL!!!! / wewatchedamovie
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[@WeWatchedAMovie]

Thanks for watching! I wanna hear your thoughts LIVE tonight at 8PM EST at the Scream VI Spoiler Party! I won't liver alone until you come.

[@theiridescentwon]

I am so onboard with your theory.

[@gangsterghost7200]

Like in scream 3 that ghost face was behind what happened in part 1

[@corangocrog3392]

13:51 LOVE THAT IDEA, but i think it would be too confusing for the audience and the cast, cause like the same actress playing 2 different characters in the same movie, but still if something like that would work, i love to see how they do it

[@troyvarley7715]

Switch a stu

[@mychunkyjordi7585]

I like Stu but he doesn't need to come back. Due to all the hype over of him I'm not gonna like it just like I don't like the Billy visions sorry. They need to do their own thing in my eyes 👀 🤔 Great thoughts though 🙂 🐾 💜👍

[@ericatate4623]

If we’re supposed to accept that Chad got stabbed 40 frkn times and could still talk and kiss Tara, we can bring Stu back after a TV to the head.

[@Skilful_basics8]

Not to mention the other character in the end. She gets stab in the stomach and doesn’t even try and act like it. Why did the directors leave that in?

[@marcusholder6508]

Yet when I get stabbed even once, I die and kiss no one. It's just not fair.

[@user-qv9vl2mi6y]

Not to mention after the tv landed on him you hear a faint whimper like he’s in pain but not dead

[@gdmav7775]

Yeah but people aint accepting that... fans have been complaining about invincibke Chad since launch day😂

[@tjpowell234]

​@@gdmav7775 he should be dead. I like the twins tho.. but both should probably be dead. Sxxt everyone but Sam should be

[@codymclemore4816]

What no one seems to be talking about is.. they very clearly paralleled the 2nd one in a lot of ways, including the killer reveal. If the plan for 7 is to have parallels to 3, then it’s all about taking it back to the beginning and changing things up. It’d be about Richie not actually being the orchestrator of this new trilogy. Stu convincing Richie and Amber would parallel Roman with Billy and Stu.

[@TreYSlippY]

I like that thought process🔥

[@anthonylopez9594]

I said this after watching the first movie. Too many clues. And with this second one it makes even more sense.

[@WhisperingEcho33]

That's exactly what I seen to!

[@DubExp]

The reveal would be so nice. Especially us viewers and Sam and Tara's friends would expect it to be someone close in their circle or whatever. when Ghostface unmasks himself and it's Stu, everyone will be shocked.

[@dannyz5534]

Or sam? Lol

[@skrachamaniacs3878]

I think if they bring Stu back in the next movie, he needs to be incredibly dark and scary and I know that Matthew Lillard can make the performance be epic

[@deonhill2958]

Yes 🙌

[@thenameless7810]

I really want Stu to be back but part of me will also not enjoy that Stu is the mastermind or killer cause it is too predictable and it will create a bunch of plot holes that the writers have to write.

[@MustafaAli-lb8dq]

...except Stu isn't a very good killer. He stumbles in Scream 1. Billy was a very good killer.

[@ManubibiWalsh]

@@MustafaAli-lb8dq we don’t know who killed who in Scream 1. It could’ve all been Stu. And he definitely planned some of what him and Billy did. Also, assuming he’s alive, he’s had almost 30 years to plan things out and pick up new antisocial skills and become more of a praying mantis kind of killer. He’d be in his late 40s or early 50s depending on when he’d come back, and he’d have a lot of time to change how his mind works in all this time. Matter of fact, he was meant to be alive and be the mastermind manipulating a ghostface cult from jail in 3. Stu is not stupid, he was merely lying and pretending to be dumb to not raise suspicions.

[@MustafaAli-lb8dq]

@@ManubibiWalsh If Stu was in jail, this means Dewey lied to everyone that he was dead when he wasn't. Maybe he did that to avoid fans visiting jail

[@slashingitwithmatt4776]

I really want too see Stu come back. Not just for nostalgic reasons, but I feel this would fit well into a future story.

[@WeWatchedAMovie]

Totally agree

[@boomstickcritique902]

You can do something special with it because he was so close to Billy. Like how does Stu feel about Billy having a daughter does he want to kill her drive her crazy or make her a Ghostface killer like him and Billy so she can carry on the legacy of him and Billy maybe he wants to mentor her. There's a lot of directions you can take that storyline.

[@tjpowell234]

Agree. And Stu is my top 3 Favorite scream character and my favorite killer

[@Jon-xd7ng]

Maybe scream 7 could be about Stu and Tatums wedding

[@alimation88]

hoping for a Stu and Sidney finale in 7

[@WeWatchedAMovie]

Samesies

[@laquitasmith6774]

SAME

[@jaydengoslin5354]

I know

[@daz4363]

For me I kind of want it in 8, but with a Stu reveal in 7, so 7 does what no Scream has done yet, lets the killer win in the end and walk away, setting up the epic rematch for 8, think it could be spectacular if they did this with us knowing for a full year or 2 years whatever that Scream 8 and Stu is back to finish what he started, book it for 2026 so it's like a 30 year anniversary.

[@nunka34ify]

“I ALWAYS HAD A THING FOR YA, SID!!!!!”

[@wormboy5063]

Regardless of if he is alive or not, I do think it was interesting to have a presumed dead killer wearing his mask

[@WeWatchedAMovie]

100%

[@sephfcuoctasphere1978]

Foreshadowing?

[@CB0915]

Ohhhhh shiiiit

[@austin_c_9080]

I was never sold on the Stu being swapped for a real dead body theory, but, after Scream 6, seeing what Det. Bailey and Quinn pulled off, I am open to any possibility now. Bring on the Stu.

[@chrissmarie455]

The fact that your version is probably so much better than what they will probably do makes my Scream living heart hurt 😭 they need to hire you.

[@thedarkroom6416]

y

[@WeWatchedAMovie]

I'd do it for nine dollars and a snow cone

[@averageldrenjoyer]

im saying

[@kelise001]

​@@WeWatchedAMovie what flavor is this snow cone? 🤔

[@dillonwilliams1698]

​@@WeWatchedAMovie man I'd make one just from the love of the movies

[@VanDutch87]

Remember the golden rule of Scream, unless the killer gets shot in the head, they’re not truly dead 😆

[@jay_jamm01]

So Jill and Charlie are still alive?

[@jay_jamm01]

@Rowan Fernandez Uhhhh Jill and Charlie were killers tho, wdym? 🤦‍♂️

[@ManubibiWalsh]

@@jay_jamm01 maybe, why not?

[@BenSlashes]

Scream 1 & 5 = Boyfriend was the Killer Scream 2 & 6 = A Mother/Father was the Killer Scream 3 & 7 = A Mastermind is behind all of this. STU

[@WeWatchedAMovie]

Yeah baby!

[@Melissa_Connolly]

I saw a tik tok vid of a girl mentioning this theory but add the half sibling element to it. Roman was Sid's half brother so maybe if Sam is being considered as the "final girl", Tara could be behind it with their mom which then could tie back to Stu!

[@laquitasmith6774]

YESSSSS

[@tigerlord9302]

@@Melissa_Connollyot Tara necessarily. Probably another secret sibling, that either of their parents had, and said parents maybe as well. They wouldn’t do that with Tara, especially after keeping Chad alive. Plus I feel that it could be anyone, not necessarily Stu.

[@rudycamposjr4147]

But what about killing his nephew?? I'm scream 5

[@aaronphillips2246]

I think they could easily connect Jason and his partner to the Cult of Stu storyline. If they go with Stu leading a large group of copycat killers in Scream 7, he could literally say “I almost got this going last year, but Detective Bailey and his stupid kids got in the way.”

[@WeWatchedAMovie]

That works too!!

[@vicksegura2239]

If Chad and gale can survive so can Stu 🙏🤣 He was by far an amazing character that deserves much more time❤

[@YZ_Will]

🤣🤣🤣

[@crooked_letters]

Stu’s mom and dad were SO mad at him. But they didn’t want to let him rot in prison… 😱😱😱

[@TazSimpson]

EXACTLY! I think they are building to Stu coming back BUT I believe they are waiting on Nev to agree on coming back to make it official! cause it would make sense for her character to be there.

[@WeWatchedAMovie]

For sure, unless he was just looking for her unsuccessfully

[@troyzabler2573]

Another thing for Stu’s motive could be with him knowing who Sam is he could ultimately be trying to turn her into another ghostface to kill Sidney

[@Scene68]

Yeah, the attack on Gale seemed very personal. Same with Dewey in Scream 5. I believe they "secretly" leaning to Stu's return. Where it all leads (and concludes) to Ms. Prescott.

[@Killer_Gremlin]

Also Stu wasn’t shot in the head it’s the movie rules “killer always comes back for another scare.”

[@chasebanks4302]

I think there is a real possibility that Stu could come back. That line from Kirby wasn't a throw-away line. "If you believe he's dead" I think the seeds are being planted and that Kirby is on to something, or maybe she knows more than she's letting on. Besides this is a new trilogy so to speak. Randy's trilogy rules. "Forget what you know about the past". Maybe Stu is the mastermind and was involved the whole time. It would clean up a lot of plot holes. Who knows, maybe nothing comes of it. I'm just glad Scream is doing well.

[@kylec4321]

*Mindy said it into response to Kirby. Everyone on reddit chalks it up to poking fun at the fan base that still believe Stu is alive, personally I could see it interpreted both ways. It would be awesome if he was the one that influenced Richie and got the parts moving imo. I'm fine with it either way, but if Chad can get stabbed 100x and survive and Quinn can throw a 200 lb man through a window in Scream universe, I'd be okay with the hoops they'd have to jump through to explain him surviving.

[@chasebanks4302]

@Kyle Campbell you're right about the line. I could have worded that sentence better. I'm with you on being fine either way if Stu comes back or not. I think Chad has more stab wounds than Dewey at this point. It'll be interesting to see where Scream 7 goes with the story.

[@mr.checkyourself4672]

Maybe his sister who we found out he has that was mentioned in the last movie Leslie Macher I think her name is maybe she be Ghostface in 7 but then again I don't want a rinse and repeat of the revenge motive.

[@WeWatchedAMovie]

I agree!

[@cjfast11]

the question mark was definitely in reference to where their mask is. because the non-question marks in that scene were pictures of masks ghostface left having dna to the past killers

[@WeWatchedAMovie]

That makes sense!

[@ManubibiWalsh]

The mask being missing can still lead back to Stu’s body’s not being found, or having been “lost”.

[@cshipley]

At the end when detective Bailey was talking about how easy it was to swap out a body I immediately thought they were throwing that out there because of all of these theories

[@dalemiller7882]

Nice catch !!

[@awesomecrab9960]

And since a TV crushed his head and probably scared his face, that could make sense.

[@wakeupsheeple513]

I still think that he's alive. I think he masterminded the events of scream 5 and 6, I still believe that it was him who kill-ed Dewey and not Amber, and I think he was the one who attacked Gale.

[@tjpowell234]

Yep. Everyone's like "Amber admitted killing Dewey " but she would wanna take credit for a legacy kill I'd think. And she maybe didn't wanna let them know Stu is alive. If he is

[@hardlytomhardy7657]

I think he might be alive tbh. They made a whole ass point in the reveal of VI about how a cop can cover up their child’s death with prosthetics and swapping out bodies, etc. PLUS the whole “if you believe he’s really dead” exchange can’t be just a coincidence, they definitely want that option there going forward 😂

[@BigCRichy]

They did make a point in scream 6 where they mentioned Stu’s name and said “if he’s really dead “.

[@slasherclone9281]

‘Tell Sidney, he didn’t get me.’ This line bugged me, it was well delivered but it’s so out of place. That said, if Stu is back, Sid and Gale could suspect they’ve been dealing with something unusual since part 4 or after Dewey died. There could be a connection as far back as 2 but I’d probably focus on the online community part, as it more directly impacts the more recent movies. It could go a ways to explain why Gale wrote a book, if Sid asked her too. They can’t let him know they’re on to him. I’ve always wanted Sidney to go full Nancy on a Ghostface as tribute to Wes’s final girls. Need an damn good Ghostface to make it work though. Gale putting Ghostface on hold was priceless.

[@tjpowell234]

Even Ghostface was confused you could hear him ask "what!?" On the phone. Was a smart move by her fr

[@Eric_I_Guess]

My main thing with the Amber killing Dewey debate is that even Neve has said that ghostface needs to be looked at as its own thing during these scenes. It's never come off as a pothole to me.

[@ethancharles2189]

I don't see it as a plothole either.

[@NoName-nb5nm]

I think Stu still stands buried in a grave somewhere he probably wasn't buried cremated probably.

[@WeWatchedAMovie]

Fair!

[@nunka34ify]

Well we are in this “requel” of the franchise. These two new movies are paralleling the first two films in many ways like having the boyfriend be the killer in the first installments and the family wanting revenge in the second installments. Stu being alive would greatly parallel Roman’s role in Scream 3 as the mastermind that’s been around since the beginning and orchestrated everything

[@tparkerevans7165]

There’s also a question mark next to Mickey and Nancy. The detectives were using the questions marks for the masks worn by those killers because they have yet been found

[@WeWatchedAMovie]

I did notice that. I wonder why?

[@I-need-2-win]

I think Kibry was talking about the masks themselves. Where each mask was there.

[@ChrisMovieMisfit]

Correct. The question marky sticky notes were in regards to "these are the masks still out there". Mickey and Mrs. Loomis also had that next to them as well. His death in 1996 was confirmed below his name like the rest of them. The interaction with Mindy and Kirby on "If you believe he's really dead" was them poking fun at the fanbase and weather or not you believe that theory or not. That's what I saw.

[@marianomosquera1995]

The fact that they're reminding us of Stu regularly must mean something. From the moment Richie semi-quoted him on 5 ("did you just hit me with the phone?") to Kirby openly stating there are those who believe he died and those who don't in 6, it can't all go without a payoff in the end. Why would they even bring that last idea to the table otherwise? I've been thinking about how Scream 3 retconned something from the past to try to guess what 7 could retcon from 5. And I think the most probable choice is for them to change Amber and Richie not being the ultimate masterminds of it all. Just as Roman sent Stu and Billy after Sidney, someone else must have sent Amber and Richie after Sam. That's how you could get Stu into it. Stu must have known his pal Billy got Sam's mom pregnant. Then he sent Amber and Richie to kill her because, if they did, he finally got to make his movie in finishing their requel. But, even better, if they didn't and Sam's killer instincts kicked in, he got to try to use that to change her, join him, and finish what he and her father started years ago: killing Sidney. So that way you could even bring Sid back into it. It's always been about her. Try to get to Sam to become the new Billy to have a Macher and a Loomis finally finish Prescott.

[@jboao]

no it means nothing. they just want you to overthink it, because it’s fun to them. Stu is dead and he’s not coming back.

[@marianomosquera1995]

I do not agree with Ghostface not matching the person behind the mask's strength or physical demeanor being a clue tho. I mean, there are things Ghostface does that go beyond anybody's realistic capabilities and wouldn't be fixed by changing who was really behind the mask at a certain time, like how he avoids a shotgun shot in 6. For that theory to work, we'd have to pick which physical abilities of him would make more sense if there was somebody else behind the mask while at the same time actively ignoring the things he does that nobody could realistically do. It's choosing which facts to force inside a theory for it to work. The fact that anybody can gain certain abilities when using the mask that don't necessarily match who the person really is, that's just a genre trope. It's like watching Deep Red and realizing the killer was an old lady the whole time. It purposefully doesn't play into the logic of what an old woman can or can't do.

[@marianomosquera1995]

​@@jboao Could be. Still don't think so. This things come on threes, set-up, reminder and payoff. We're 2 in.

[@ManubibiWalsh]

@@jboao I know for a fact you’re the least fun person at parties, man. And hey, it doesn’t matter. Maybe Stu won’t come back, maybe he will. We’re just having fun and hyping ourselves up because we love a character so much. Stop being party poopers, all of you naysayers. You think he’s not alive? Cool, we do. We’re not trying to change anyone’s mind, we’re just doing our own thing, and we’re just throwing stuff at the wall and being creative in our own way. Matter of fact, getting into the whole “Stu is alive” thing made me write my first Scream fanfiction which I’ve had a lot of fun of, after years of having writer’s block and no drive to write anything. It’s an interest and a wish we have. Why do you care so much about ruining it? And I’m not talking about you specifically, I’m talking about all of you folks having to barge into every discussion about it just to say “wah wah he’s dead”. Just stop it. It doesn’t matter. If you don’t like this theory, just ignore it and read or watch something else.

[@aintyouthatguy7855]

I absolutely love your theory on Stu, I was sat waiting for him to be revealed in 6 but man your theory of him being the puppet master unveiled in 7 is a theory I can get on board with, much love my man!!

[@venomlayton1394]

I still feel like, if Stu is alive or not I still think the cult could happen, and I also think that if it’s not Stu, it could be his sister going around and planning all this or maybe there’s a mastermind out there killing just because someone was home. I also think that Sam is gonna be ghostface but maybe a anti hero type ghostface, or just a anti hero. As for the bodega scene, I think it was Detective Wayne who killed the bodega Owner with the shotgun, he’s a cop and he is trained to use shotguns including sawed off ones, and he was also smarter, when he was shooting the glass windows on the ice boxes, he was using that tactic so he can hear Sam and Tara’s footsteps and the glass shards being stepped on.

[@lordofthereels6790]

I could also see Radio Silence totally inverting the Stu hype by having Stu break into the Carpenter's house when Sam freaks out and demands him to take off his mask, Stu casually does so laughing at her intensity reminding him of Billy saying "I'll be seeing you" boom opening titles. Have Stu really be alive but the only person who knows is Billy's daughter constantly doubting her sanity while Stu wants "to make her a star"?

[@oliverqueen8506]

One aspect you forgot which I think is a viable option is Danny Josh Segarra’s character he could have been the one that was planted by Stu to just be around. I just refuse to believe they casted Josh Segarra to play a perfectly sane person lol

[@JohnBlatt71]

I hope the directors are watching this and are taking notes!

[@kyliekay447]

One of the biggest things for me moving forward is for the killers who are ghostface , actually able to do the things they are meant to. A lot of the killings have been unbelievable when you see who was meant to have done it

[@laquitasmith6774]

EXACTLY

[@I-need-2-win]

Exactly. The person should match the one behind the costume

[@tjpowell234]

Yep the last 2 movies were great. But you had to suspend disbelief soo much. Especially in Scream 6

[@donusmc1]

Stu being behind all of the recent events would definitely tie up a lot of things, and it would fit within the scream world. This is now a requal trilogy assuming 7 is directed by the same people so they can do what scream 3 did, which is go back to the beginning and reveal who was really calling the shots and who set everything into motion.

[@TheJasonx316]

What up Mike. The macher’s story I don’t believe is finished. Stu’s nephew was killed in 5, his sister was mentioned, Leslie. Now in six they say, if you believe he’s dead. I think in 7 there will be a macher that shows up. Probably Leslie but hoping for Stu. Looking forward to the stream tonight.

[@WeWatchedAMovie]

Can't wait dude!

[@emmachapman1179]

U not sure that they r just playing on all the hype for stu. Keeps ppl wanna to see the movies to see if he back, so they r playing up to this.

[@FameKillz]

then saying twice basically that stu is “dead” just means it’ll be even more shocking when he’s not dead. then scream 8 could feel fresh again since Stu is no longer an option

[@vegaro214]

Everything you said is perfect. Especially Stu really only has a motive to kill legacy characters (Duey and Gale), and that’s exactly when the GF size issue is apparent. Stu being behind it all makes a ridiculous amount of sense. I hope it’s true

[@WeWatchedAMovie]

Me too!

[@daz4363]

Never bought the Stu just wanting to kill the legacy characters thing, Sid yes, Gale maybe, but Dewey? Why Dewey? Dewey did nothing to Stu or Billy or anyone really in Scream 1, so why would he matter to Stu? He matters to us the audience, he matters to fanboy and fangirl Richie and Amber, but why does he matter to Stu? There is a reason for it obviously, my thinking is anything that can hurt Sid they are the kills Stu wants for himself, and also I can see Stu at this point like Mike kind of said being like you wannabe's can't hang with the OG's, so he's stepping up to take them out for that on top of the fact that taking out Dewey in 5 and if they took out Gale in 6, those kills would be the ones to draw Sid back into the fight and hurt her, because killing Sam, Tara or the twins? Would Sid really care?

[@vegaro214]

@@daz4363 Stu definitely could have had conflicts with Dewey, he was Tatums older brother, they more than likely knew each other. But yes, it’s probably to lure Sidney into the mix of things primarily

[@daz4363]

@@vegaro214 Oh yeah i get that, just if that mattered so much to Stu he'd have gone for it in Scream 1, which is never really alluded to, and the whole Stu would want to kill the legacy characters because he's a legacy character imo because of this falls flat. Like I said I think that matters to us the audience for that reason, would not matter to Stu though for that reason. Same as the it's an honor thing, to Richie and Amber it would be, to us it should be, to Stu? Eh I don't think he'd stroke Dewey's ego in that odd way, I think he'd taunt him, like GF taunted Gale in 6, maybe mention all the people Dewey failed to save throughout the movies, or taunt him by asking if he thinks it felt this good when Billy killed his sister, something like that imo would be more Stu like.

[@davidlewis6891]

An article came out today from Variety where Jamie Vanderbuilt, producer William Sherak, and producer Paul Neinstein all three say that Stu could possibly come back.

[@roxyfoxyyy7]

That makes me so happy!

[@Oddfosshaugbagi]

Better not be a ghost like billy plus i dont see why he would appear to sam but i actully think if stu is Alive could he also see Billy like sam does

[@phibonacci309]

Really hope we get a Stu Ghostface vs Sam with her almost fighting in place of her dad Billy. Stu's motive could be that he is pissed at how popular Sam is from basically becoming a "killer" and no credit is being given to Stu at all.

[@ash529x]

There is something so satisfying about watching you talk about Stu being alive!!! I’m here for all your Scream related content, but your Stu ideas/theories are chef’s kiss!!! 🤌

[@WeWatchedAMovie]

Thank you!!

[@roguemystique7]

I love that there's someone with a voice on youtube that loves Stu as much as me lol! Cause I'd love for him to return, and your idea is similar to mine. Which I'm stoked that Matthew L. would reprise his role, and is so eager to do so. One thing I would love to see in a Scream movie is for a Ghostface to get away at the end. To have their mask unrevealed and to just get away would be so cool!

[@screamfan]

If anything, I believe the theory even more now after this one. While some thought the Tv scene was a confirmation he’s dead, so felt otherwise. I felt it was throwing another clue at us. I also feel that because the McKenzie killings not being addressed is a clue that will lead into 7. I don’t think that was just a throw away add-on there on the posters. It means something and I love this entire puzzle leading up to it. ❤

[@screamfan]

Thank you for this channel and for keeping the Scream franchise fresh and exciting for anyone who wants to dive into the details. 🙌

[@thedarkroom6416]

Y

[@screamfan]

@@thedarkroom6416 ?

[@troygrubb1351]

I really hope Stu comes back it would be really cool!! Hope you are having a amazing Wednesday Mike buddy!!

[@PopCultureWithPat]

CANNOT WAIT for the stream tonight! Thank you so much for your coverage on Scream Mike, as a fellow Superfan of the series I really appreciate it! Saw the film for a 3rd time this weekend, it's been awhile since I've done that for a film

[@MrFoolD]

I don't want the series to turn into a joke with the killers and motives, that's why having Stu come back and finish the series with Scream 7 is perfect.

[@koolaids-man8668]

I always thought it would actually make sense that people wouldn't mention him even if he were alive and in jail. The reason would be that nobody respects him enough to remember, everyone always just talks about Billy and considers him the mastermind and kinda just forgets about stu. I really thought a cool idea for 6 would've been stu being the mastermind behind a cult of Ghostfaces behind bars as a way of showing everyone he deserves respect. I also thought pulling a Psycho 2 and actually having him being released from prison (since it has been 27 years and maybe his rich parents got him out of a life sentence) would have been interesting. Now that 6 squashed those two ideas, the only things I can count on are his death being faked by his parents, or his death being faked by the government 😂

[@eyone3279]

THIS, especially since scream 5 characters dont even seem to know who Stu is, theres the girl asking "who is Stu Macher" and when ghostface asks who were the killers in the first stab they answer with just Billy Loomis

[@xsrcodgamerx3229]

Can’t wait for this livestream! Glad to have you around mike!

[@cunyergaming]

Funny thing is what you said about Stu contacting Bailey about richies death I thought the same thing but for Nancy Loomis. I though he also found Mickey for her to team up with. I saw somewhere online mickey had a backstory he was killing and putting his stories in chatroom so it makes sense. Agreed the call with gale was too personal. Sounded like he was there with Dewey. Plus him saying the conversation is long overdue. Also if you notice how ghostface uses the knife in that scene it's the exact way that stu did in Sidney house. Although Quinn said he was her favorite killer so maybe it was imitation. Also agree with Amber because she did say she became obsessed right after her parents bought the house. Another thing I noticed is 5 and 6 have been very focused on breaking Sam into a killer and she is enjoying it more each time. My friend has a theory that since Sam can't get a therapist to stick with that stu will pose as a online or call center therapist and bring the killer out of her and Trojan horse her to Sidney. And when you think about it maybe that's why Bailey stole the therapist file on sam to give to him. Either way whenever he does pop up it should be for the last movie. If Chad can survive 30 stab wounds stu can survive two stabs and a TV.

[@tombess2673]

Well said, Mike. I think it's particularly easy to slot Stu in as Dewey's killer / Gale's attacker not only for all the points you mentioned, but because to go along with the Amber and Quin explanation as the movies presented feels like we're simply conceding a pretty egregious plot hole in a series that (for the most part) is pretty damned good about avoiding errors like that. Something to mull re: future installments - considering the first weekend box office, an announcement for part 7 seems inevitable and probably quite soon. That said, it feels like 2024 might be too quick to get another movie made / marketed / released if it's going to be based around the Core Four. If I ran Paramount I'd try to lock down those actors as well as Radio Silence for part 7 ASAP and shoot it with a targeted release of 2025. At the same time, I back up a small armored car to Neve Campbell's house, not to mention Courtney Cox and Matthew Lillard. All of this is done as quietly as goddamned possible. Scream 7 comes out and serves as either an end or at least a suitable pausing point for the story of Sam, Tara, Mindy and Chad. Post credits you drop not a teaser, but a full-blown trailer for Scream 8 that's marketed as the last appearance for Sid and Gale. That's where Stu finally gets his moment to shine before Sidney puts him down once and for all. Here's the kicker - the release date is 12/18/2026, almost thirty years exactly from the release of the original. Is something even sort of like this going to happen? Almost assuredly not. Will its unlikeness stop me from hoping it happens? Also, absolutely not. Nor will I be disappointed with what we DO get (the GF reveal played better for me on a second viewing) though I agree that they should stop teasing us poor (S)true Believers if they're not going to pull the trigger. Thanks as always for the content. French Toast is great.

[@WeWatchedAMovie]

Hell yes Tom!

[@pascaletremblay8080]

❤

[@laquilliavaughn822]

If they did bring Stu and Sidney back, this will be a big movie. You have some great ideas

[@Jumpmanrapper]

Always great to hear yall theories & how yall come up with them

[@sonnym5489]

This is the #1 channel I ALWAYS recommend to people who like horror movies or just KZbin in general lol, you kill it every video

[@WeWatchedAMovie]

Thank you so much Sonny!

[@brookscarlett7387]

I 💯 agree with you Mike!!! I would love for Stu to return!! The New Nightmare idea gave me chills Mike!! That would be awesome! Looking forward to tonight😱🖤

[@kevinthompson6986]

Let’s just make Matt lilliard himself in the movie make it Stu’s twin brother saying they killed the wrong one or something like that similar to UL’s part two where he faked his death

[@ashleymiles2350]

I never noticed until recently but in Scream 2, Mickey hugs Matthew Lillard (aka Stu) at the frat party during his cameo. I saw it in a KZbin video and then rewatched scream 2 and sure enough he does! It's a brief side hug/shoulder pat. I feel like that was not a coincidence, especially considering they were planning to bring Stu back as the killer in Scream 3 during this time. They could use that scene as a flashback to show Stu lurking in the shadows and had connections with other ghost faces. I think it would be cool if they did flashbacks and showed Stu was behind attacks in other films! Maybe they could do the flashback to show Stu was the one who killed Randy or was the Ghostface in the car scene in 2, was the Ghostface who chased Sidney around the movie set in 3, attacked Sidney and her aunt in 4, killed Dewey in 5 and attacked Gale in 6. I think that would be really neat! I heard Matt was around on set during Scream 2 as he and Neve were dating at the time. Maybe somewhere they have footage of him interacting with the cast, and they could use that to show he was around the entire time but went unnoticed.

[@kylebrandon2009]

Definitely feel this was on a lot of your videos....but I REALLY never clicked so fast in my life! Been waiting for a video like this to drop. #STULIVES # STURETURNS #GETITUP

[@WeWatchedAMovie]

GET IT UP!

[@ashleybass5980]

Can't help but be disappointed everytime stu isn't the killer. Your version of scream 6 would've been absolutely epic

[@papahamdrew9962]

I love the aggressive energy 😂. Everything you’ve said makes total sense and your pitch for a irl ghostface hunting Scream actors actually sounds pretty cool 😂, maybe as a separate thing though. But I have a tweak to your theory about Richie and Amber taking Gale and Sid to the kitchen, what if Stu didn’t know and that part was all Richie trying to make his own movie. Stu then sees that Richie and Amber died anyway, he shrugs his shoulders and call’s Detective Bailey. But your idea does sound pretty good and sadistic for Stu, he knew they were f*cked and let them die. Anyways, love your pitch.

[@chrisgale2855]

I definitely thought the phone call with Gale was interesting. When Ghostface says something like "we've never spoken on the phone" I forget the exact line. But it came off as Ghostface meaning he's spoken with the past legacy characters except her which would mean it had to be Stu. Because the new killers never spoke with Sid or Dewey.

[@curtissmythe7099]

Exactly I was thinking this a hour ago. They say we've never talked. Well if it was cop, or mop top or Quinn. Why say that of course you've never talked to them before. And look how comfortable the conversation was, like not in a hurry, messing with her. Oh maybe I've been hit/injured. Something was up

[@vorhees2093]

Kirby was being sarcastic and then she pushes the TV on the killer. Putting the nail in the coffin 😂😂😂😂

[@lucguay4235]

OoOoOHh I have to admit that as a ''if Stu is coming back i will hate that'' type of guy, it is the first time that a theory about it gets me excited! Kudos for that!

[@202_BAND]

There’s only ONE WAY for this series to end on a good note! STU HAS TO COME BACK! FULL CIRCLE AND IN WOODSBORO! IN SCREAM 7….They need to show a FLASHBACK DEWEY DEATH SCENE IN SCREAM 5 but this time the Hospital Scene with Dewey being killed need to be an extended scene that shows Amber actually watching from a room with her GHOSTFACE attire on but she’s enjoying watching DEWEY GET KILLED BY THE GHOSTFACE WHO IS ACTUALLY STU DOING THE KILLING YET AMBER WAS SO FIXATED ON A LEGACY CHARACTER THAT SHE STOLE CREDIT FOR THAT KILL!!!! it SHOULD BE SURVEILLANCE FOOTAGE CUTS SHOWING THAT THERE WERE TWO GHOSTFACE IN THE HOSPITAL WHILE RITCHIE WAS ON THE ELEVATOR WITH SAM AND TARA

[@garrie2976]

I know the Detective was in the park and his son was in the van but there is no way Quin could have done Gale and her boyfriend that person was built like a man they were really strong and they were stealthy like a professional

[@toooriginal3816]

He’s dead. They literally killed another GhostFace with the same TV that killed Stu. Basically saying “look this TV is completely capable of killing someone.” Stu is probably my favorite killer too, but he is dead.

[@mjwgames9812]

Stu influencing Amber and Richie makes sense seeing how they used his house for their finale. Plus he could want sam to join him. Your father was my partner. It's your birth right. Scream v and VI were a test to see how tough Sam is or he just wants revenge.

[@connorredshaw7994]

I really want Sydney and Stu to have a final showdown in scream 7. I have just got back from my local cinema after watching scream 6 again two days in a row and enjoyed it even more definitely in my top 3. Quick question Mike how would you rank the movies? Finally love that ghostface shirt your wearing 👍

[@WeWatchedAMovie]

I haven't decided yet! Im hung up on one specific choice lol

[@pascaletremblay8080]

😊

[@arontouchet5212]

Do you remember when you was watching the movie? They said something about Stu being alive I hope he is alive. I hope he does show up in part seven.

[@alizeedanielle9423]

That would actually work! 😂 Wasn't sold on the stu stuff but you convinced me it could actually be something!

[@SpookyDude69]

😱Guaranteed he will return when Sidney does😱

[@WeWatchedAMovie]

Fingers crossed!

[@cunyergaming]

At this point it wouldn't make sense if he doesn't. With all the cameos throughout the movies. When in proximity of a ghostface attack no less. And the teasing dead or not dead just seems like too much for no payoff.

[@Gullysands]

After they gave the Roman convincing Billy and being her brother backstory it’s really the only other way for a conclusive feeling ending for Sidney other than her just not being in any of the new movies

[@blade5883]

NO

[@chrish2112]

​@@blade5883 Then go watch Paranormal Activity.

[@talksick508]

Let’s talk about the TV and Stu. There was a line about the conspiracy that Stu is still alive. Was Kirby pushing the TV onto Ethan and killing him to prove to fans that that killed Stu? Gillett: Yes. So that’s putting the nail in the coffin! Gillett: That is scripted, specifically, as a brutal and definitive kill. Guy and Jamie wrote the TV falling on Ethan’s head as a brutal and definitive kill. Vanderbilt: I just loved that moment. Once we got the idea of her saying, “I saw that in a scary movie once,” we had to do it. It’s the one last pop up! It was more about that than saying anything about all of the Stu truthers out there. Could Matthew Lillard pop up in a future movie? Vanderbilt: There’s no good answer, so I will never confirm or deny stuff like that. Sherak: Anything’s possible. Neinstein: Characters can come in and out! There’s different ways to do it. It’s such a part of all of their lives; they have an affinity for “Scream.”

[@thefinderskeep1680]

If they bring stu back… they gonna need to land that plane well. He’s gonna have to have an iconic line… as he pulls off the mask.

[@jetfire97.]

I instantly thought of "boo-gah" the line he said to Sid if she got the question wrong. 🤣

[@Mark-G1978]

Came for the Stu Lives talk, stayed for the funny banter.

[@sephfcuoctasphere1978]

Mike, I really like the idea of Stu being the master mind…. I was hoping that Stu was the one wearing the aged mask in this one, but without Sid, it wouldn’t have had the punch.

[@louiscardillo6967]

Stu being the mastermind behind everything would be absolutely sick. I was actually just watching scream 4 the other night and there's a perfect point where he can be tied in that movie. When Olivia was going in her house, Hoss and Perkins were in their car, and Charlie was already in the closet, and Jill was with Kirby. When Hoss and Perkins said they think they saw ghost face down the block, it couldn't have been Charlie or Jill. Stu? Just spitballing lmao

[@twinsanity9849]

Also says the person in the costume is like a GHOST

[@jasondyer722]

Thank you so much for defending the Stu Lives fans! I am one who would absolutely love to see Stu come back. Look this franchise is going to have many more sequels to come, why not throw us Stu Lives fans a bone for one or more sequels. With that said I only want Stu back if it makes sense and is explained well with a great story. Fill in those plot holes from past Screams. Great video!!!

[@TooShawn]

I find it crazy that chad can survive but stu can’t… they should bring him back for the next movie 😂

[@tjpowell234]

Love Chad. But.... the twins, Tara, Gale, should all be dead. Kirby too this movie. Still a good movie and im glad chad lived. Even tho had to suspended disbelief beyond belief lol

[@ryanoneill8591]

I personally think he’s dead, but i loved their teasing of the fans with “death 1996” under his photo, and then Mindy saying “if you believe it” We know nothing more than we did before watching 😂

[@Metalmessiah007]

Lmmfao!!!! Dude your Halloween theme song.. Certified gold sir😂😂😂

[@seventythird1779]

Scream 7 starts with someone in a hoodie picking up Billy’s Mask that Sam Dropped. Someone’s who’s been watching the whole time.

[@mychunkyjordi7585]

I've heard 7 is gonna be it's own story, sounds like Halloween Ends which I won't mind as I actually enjoyed Ends 😊🐾💜

[@WeWatchedAMovie]

Where did you see that?

[@mychunkyjordi7585]

@@WeWatchedAMovie I heard it before 7 was greenlit but it could be a load of bollocks so don't quote me on it. I haven't seen 6 yet as waiting for dvd release in England. I can't do cinemas but it sounds great

[@mychunkyjordi7585]

I've heard Sam is holding Billys mask at the end but throws it down. Sounds a bit like Ends as Corey was obsessed with the mask 🤔🤔🐾💜

[@kevinthompson6986]

@@mychunkyjordi7585 yeah but I think Sam kept the knife so there’s that

[@NoSurrenderApparel]

Just left the theaters. I think with the core 4 surviving, Sam slowly spiraling, and the slight hints at stu we have several movies coming up over the next few years and I think Stu will definitely return. Just a matter of time. Absolutely loved the movie.

[@GabrielHell]

.Sidney is 63, Gale is almost 90... They're all thinking they'll be retiring in peace in woodsboro when a 64 years old Stu Macher comes back to life to grant that retirering money from Gale and Sidney.

[@kornburg14]

That Chad and His Sisters surrvied again was awful. Chad is so Boring as a Character. 4 survivers are to much. And Kirby and gale also surrvied

[@sickmansnipes12]

“I dunno. Do you know?… Fuck off. 😂😂 had me dying 😂😂

[@UFC-Xposah]

Scream was my childhood. Stu coming back would leave me completely satisfied with this franchise

[@rontempleton9419]

They should do a silence of the lambs thing with Stu where they reach out to him for help to find the next ghostface from a deep hole in prison and make him a redeemable character

[@Getinmyvan_21]

Great video as always mike! I’d love stu to be the Roman of this trilogy and to be the mastermind it would be so poetic

[@KoltVEVO]

Diggin the Ghostface popcorn bucket in the background! Its pre nice

[@karlkelly1082]

Amazing video!

[@mikeyreu5285]

Just subed. Love your content !

[@SkimpPicks]

They mention “if you actually think he’s dead” gotta be coming back

[@ryanwest9546]

When talking about small characters picking up larger characters, don't forget, this is a universe where handguns throw people 10 feet after getting shot

[@Marcusalex89]

Holy crap! The energy you bring to this movies are Amazing! Thank you, everytime you bring me a big fucking smile!

[@WeWatchedAMovie]

Thank you so much dude!

[@kohl403]

Dude I absolutely LOVE your theory. I think Stu is alive and if they bring him back it will be the best ending to the series

[@n1kkmoviezz463]

If 7 is a good movie this trilogy will probably be better than the Halloween one

[@vorhees2093]

Kirby’s line about yeah if you believe he’s dead, felt like they were poking fun at the fans. They’re fucking with y’all

[@DGhost-ki6fd]

Stu pulled a Michael Myers escape

[@rymaeproductions420]

I have always thought that it was Stu that killed Dewey too! No matter how much people hate it! Cause like you said there's a lot of things that don't fully add up! Also right befote Dewey dies & he hits ghostface or something you can hear a man's voice when he makes like an augh or oof sound. Plus other a couple of things other things I have noticed that you didn't mention also.

[@Meeks_skeeM]

Read this please Mike heres my Theory. Scream 1 was billy. Scream 5 was Richie. Both boyfriends. Scream 6 motive revenge and scream 2 was also revenge. Scream 3 was the who's behind it all. Hey scream 7 can be Stu could be alive and reveal himself.