Where Was Majora's Mask Sealed?

[@MantisFight2TurboEdition]

2:44 image of the mask was supposed to be laid over a freeze frame of the wall here. Not sure why the freeze frame turned black, but unfortunately clearing the cache of the video project cleared a bunch of other stills so I cant really go back and fix it (I could I guess but it'd be annoying).

[@Maorawrath]

Can you please link the article you mentioned at 2:15 .

[@MantisFight2TurboEdition]

@@Maorawrath zeldauniverse.net/forums/index.php?thread/50295-stone-tower-of-babel-why-termina-was-doomed/ Here you go. It’s mostly insane but I like the very, very broad idea of it.

[@kakashiroks]

Here’s my theory: Termina is where the mask was sealed. The happy mask salesman hasn’t finished retrieving it yet. Termina itself is it’s prison and majora wanted to destroy it by crashing its moon to free itself.

[@dimitrispvoice133]

that's wild, sealception

[@PSIkid]

All of the stuff about the Stone Tower more or less lines up with my interpretation of where it came from and what it's supposed to be. However, another detail I noticed is regarding the effigy in the tower that resembles Majora's Mask when flipped upside down; it actually resembles the face of Majora's Wrath when you first enter the tower. As far as I know, this is the only bit of foreshadowing towards Majora's "true" form throughout the entire game, so I thought it might be worth mentioning when taking the origins of the tower and the mask into account. Another thing to note is that the portal to the desert dimension where Twinmold reside only opens up when the Stone Tower is flipped upside down. This could imply that the creators of the tower fell through the portal when the Goddesses flipped the tower, where they were condemned to forever wander the desert or were devoured by Twinmold, assuming they existed by that point. This also implies a connection between the creators of the Stone Tower and the Garo, as the Garo Master is found in the exact spot where the portal opens up upon entering the temple for the first time, suggesting that perhaps he could have found a way to escape from Twinmold's dimension. Just a thought.

[@almessasorrow4950]

Majora's wrath is based on Lucifer just like Ganon is based on Baal....... So I guess majora is terminas version of Ganon. The creator's of Ganon and Hylia were the 3 golden goddesses.

[@pkthunder416]

I like your audio quality. Sounds like a mission briefing.

[@MantisFight2TurboEdition]

I just recorded it in my kitchen on my headphone mic so I appreciate that.

[@chrislevack405]

I agree. Just gotta turn down the treble a little and it'll be spot on.

[@thebestguys1077]

it actually has a charm to it if you just slightly make it more deliberate

[@thegreenthunder5416]

What do you think about the possibility that Termina is just pre-Lorule? You enter through mysterious colorful portals, mysterious doubles of everyone, cult tribes with masks, and Ravio is seen WITH Majora’s Mask in his shop.

[@jordanleveritt7028]

Lol no

[@thegreenthunder5416]

@@jordanleveritt7028 why not

[@THEFINALHAZARD]

Ooohhh. I don’t find that the most likely; BUT. That’s got some theory energy behind it and while I’d say not likely? I’d put it in as plausible

[@jordanleveritt7028]

@@thegreenthunder5416 because its already been confirmed its a parallel world that isnt lorule. Lorule is its own place

[@andreasschaeflein4233]

I always imagine Termina in the middle of Hyrule and Lorule

[@Vmac1394]

I always assumed the Garo are the Twili in some way. When Zant fights with the two swords he is like a Garo Master and the fused shadow looks like Majora's Mask. Casting the builders of the tower into a world of permanent darkness seems like some sort of mythological punishment like the Titans being cast into Tartarus.

[@MantisFight2TurboEdition]

The Garo as a Terminian equivalent to the Twili is a cool angle I hadn't considered before.

[@tdl487]

Love this theory. Makes much more sense that the Happy Mask Salesman found the mask in this shrine then somehow breaking into the temple when it takes so many individuals just to access it. That and King Ikana talks about somebody opening the temple recently, and it's implied that it was Skull Kid with the power of the mask. I would also like to add that I love that you mainly used N64 game play shots for this. It's a rarity now with any Majora's Mask and Ocarina of Time videos.

[@EricN64]

Really like how this videos was written, script or not, feels professional. All you need is a better mic

[@MantisFight2TurboEdition]

At the moment I'm just working with the tools available. Probably the room I'm recording in is more an issue than the mic itself.

[@EricN64]

@@MantisFight2TurboEdition if matpat tought me anything it’s that recording in a closet can really help the quality

[@Wyvern_Sky]

One thing I want to bring up. There is very little history involving Majora in Termina, despite how powerful Majora is there is no legends of “Demon king Majora” or “God Majora” (Whatever it is) in Termina. All we get is the old kingdom where Majora was used and that the guardians protected the people from Majora once in the past. This combined with the fact that at least one of the portals to Hyrule was made by Majora’s power could mean that Majora could come from another world that we have yet to see.

[@thebestguys1077]

i love this video dude. your tone is really funny. hoping this video gets many more views

[@grimmdul9808]

There was manga release with MM that stated that MM was carved from the remains of a maneater monster that lost a bet against a god that looked like the FD.

[@TheRealHoodedGeek]

Non-canon

[@Jormunguandr]

The majoras mask manga is a interesting read. I sure love termina such a mysterious place.

[@ensuena5461]

The dragon on the door in stone tower temple could be a picture of the demon majora that old hero carved the mask from, but this isn't canon

[@ayyupleslie]

Very cool theory, backed with some compelling evidence. Looking forward to seeing what other theory's you have going forward!

[@MantisFight2TurboEdition]

Dunno if I have any theories of any sort down the pipe unless I finally get around to replaying Twilight Princess and something sticks out to me, but I do have a fun video in mind loosely following up this one.

[@alexthebluehermit]

Great video man! Keep doing more Zelda theories I love it

[@linkspokemon4114]

The statue in the stone tower temple looks more like twinmold the Dungeons boss

[@TheNecron87]

fight a garo in mm and after that fight zant in tp the "boss room" of stone tower temple isn't a room, its a desert. lts not just like the one in twilight princess, it is the same one. every garo is one of the twili, but not every twili is a garo. for me it looks like garo are a special force of the twili. and all the twilight princess stuff, like this dark crystal thing you mentioned in your video tells me, that the twili have something to do with majoras mask itself. twinmold in mm, tons of moldorms in tp. even how they look is similar. the biggest difference is the size it is possible, that majoras mask was sealed at this place. nobody knows when the stone tower temple was made and who made it and who closed the door, we just know that the horror kid opened it and the war started.

[@xfaon]

fun game and nostalgic

[@WhatIThoughtChannel]

I would actually argue that the Majora we see in the manga’s side story is more inspired by Indonesian lore than Chinese. The tale opens on candi bentar, or split gateway, which are definitive traits of temples, palaces, and cemeteries in Java, Bali and Lombok. I’d also say that Majora, both the creature and the mask, may incorporate elements of both Barong and Rangda, two mythical creatures of Balinese legend (not to say that creature Majora doesn’t also incorporate features of Chinese dragons or ‘lions’ too)

[@MantisFight2TurboEdition]

Good addition!

[@Drogie]

Nice content!

[@Sgt.BooMan]

Interesting theory, keep up the good work👍

[@Daraix4]

At 3:46 the Buddha looks like it is holding the Hito Hito no Mi, Model: Nika

[@QuasarEE]

Sort of, but it's actually a skull cup, a common attribute of tantric fierce deities.

[@hanburgundy4317]

Skull Kid didn't jump the Mask Salesman in Termina Field, or in Termina at all. It was in the Lost Woods of Hyrule; it's in a cutscene. Not saying the mask isn't from Termina.

[@MantisFight2TurboEdition]

I don't really see any reason that had to be the Lost Woods specifically. This game had a rushed development with a lot of reused assets and it was released on a pretty low fidelity console. I kinda imagine any Forest would look like the Lost Woods.

[@hanburgundy4317]

@@MantisFight2TurboEdition That's fair.

[@gamingnintendoworld1904]

​​​​@@hanburgundy4317 it would actually make a lot more sense that way as it explains why Skull Kid was in the lost woods at the same time as Link and why the Mask salesman was watching Link. Skull Kid went back to the Lost Woods after befriending tatl and tael in Termina then at the start of the game litterally just robbed the salesman moments ago who was on his way back from Termina and when the salesman regains his conciousness begins following after Skull Kid and Link

[@sliceninja4546]

​@@gamingnintendoworld1904 I dont think so, its implied in the game that Skull kid was terrorizing Termina with Majora's Mask long before Link's arrival.

[@pixywings]

Majora's Mask always felt like a weird combination of the Legend of Zelda and Alice in wonderland. Maybe that's why Majora's mask is heart shaped...🤔

[@Shrimpyfriedrice]

Iirc the idea was taking some familiar shape and making it into something uneasy

[@RaurosGreyed]

I like to think that the mask was always sealed away in the room where Twinmold is. Seems fitting since Ikana fell when the doors to the tower where opened, and that could have been Majora's power leaking out and affecting the area. Twinmold could have even been a guard to protect the mask from being stolen or something (and maybe the garo stole the mask in the first place). There's also the fact that the entrance to Twinmold's room is located in the sky, or when the tower is flipped, located on the floor, as if Majora is sealed down below in an area you can only go to by flipping the tower. So there's the high/low thing like heaven/hell going on with the tower. And perhaps the mask is weak by itself and requires a host to become more active, thus why Majora could not just break out of its containment and had to use Skull Kid and possess him in order to do all the things that it did.

[@MantisFight2TurboEdition]

That also holds some water because I think the Mask is depicted on the blocks in that boss room too.

[@kurenian]

Good analysis.

[@dailynonsense9360]

Very interesting

[@Bruhpersonn]

real question i always think of is , was the game in general juat all in link's head?

[@Giggles_iJest]

Who's to say it was found in Termina at all?

[@MantisFight2TurboEdition]

Nothing to say for sure but I'd say based on the Stone Tower designs it was certainly made in Termina originally, so I'd imagine it was hidden there.

[@Giggles_iJest]

@@MantisFight2TurboEdition Good guess and cool theory Too bad Nintendo's gonna chuck it to the side like what they did with the zonai going into TotK. Like Luke Skywalker in EPVII.

[@MantisFight2TurboEdition]

@@Giggles_iJest I don't really have any strong opinion on either of those things. I doubt Majora's Mask will ever really return in Zelda in any capacity, which is fine.

[@hanburgundy4317]

​@@Giggles_iJest "The Zonai" weren't even a race until KZbin fans theorized it; that's why Nintendo shoe horned it in last second with no lore lol In BOTW, "Zonai" was just the name of one set of Ruins with the same aesthetic and archeology as the others like Thyphlo Ruins. The people who built those places were hinted at as being "ancient and warlike": the opposite of how the Zonai ended up being depicted in TOTK. But fans wouldn't stop asking, "Who are the Zonai?" so Nintendo caved and abandoned the ancient warlike tribe and gave us two lame bunny goat people 😂

[@hanburgundy4317]

​@@MantisFight2TurboEdition Sadly, it won't. Aonuma supposedly had a horrible time developing the game, which is why it's so dark and nightmarish. The 1 year deadline led to the 3 Days deadline, and I guess he had nightmares about being chased by Deku Scrubs, which led to that becoming a scene.

[@JarrettKirk]

nice work

[@TheRealHoodedGeek]

Hyrule historia stated that termina was created BY the mask's power, and that the world is a reflection of Skull Kid's psyche. The mask originates from Hyrule, not Termina. When the evil in the mask was destroyed, termina ceased to exist shortly after Link returned to Hyrule

[@MantisFight2TurboEdition]

I think that's a pretty dumb idea and not one that's especially engaging, so I don't really care to take it seriously even if it it's in Hyrule Historia. Robs the narrative of any meaningful impact.

[@TheRealHoodedGeek]

@@MantisFight2TurboEdition I disagree, though I can concede that the idea of defeating the mask results in the deletion of Termina as a whole should have been present IN the game rather than being explained 20 years later in what is essentially a franchise bible. The allegory of grief has always been evident in Majora's Mask, and that grief being Skull Kid's I something that was subtly hinted at in the game, but later spelled out in historia

[@MantisFight2TurboEdition]

@@TheRealHoodedGeek I find the idea that Termina is just a fake place robs the story of it's value, since it's basically all dedicated to getting to know these people more intimately than they can ever know you. Hyrule Historia says a lot of whack stuff (the idea of a unified timeline is laughable) so I don't really care what it has to say. Even if Aonuma himself told me that was canon I'd just reject it out of hand because it makes any analysis of the game pretty enervating.

[@tontonation]

really enjoyed this, sub from me

[@Dyundu]

Seems legit 👍

[@johnnycasas8624]

Nice

[@soulcalibrII]

MM3D is just a remaster, not a remake. It's built on the entire game code from the N64 version. All Grezzo did was update visuals, minor gameplay changes, and (poorly) patch out some glitches from the original code. Grezzo did not build a game from scratch when nearly all the coding was already done for them. People have known this for almost a decade, it's not a secret. Use proper terms if you're going bother with a video.

[@MantisFight2TurboEdition]

@@soulcalibrII if they significantly overhauled the visuals, made meaningful alterations to gameplay by adding touch screen and gyro, and altered key mechanics on boss fights, then it is definitely a remake. You don’t need to care for it for that word to apply. This is a weird bone to pick that has nothing to do with the actual content of the video, take whatever grudge you have with a 3DS game to someone who cares.