Which 16” Gaming Laptop? Legion 5 Pro vs Zephyrus M16

[@JarrodsTech]

2022 Update: I've compared the newer versions of both laptops here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hZDXiaKfadl7qas 6:44 I mention the slower RAM in the Legion, but the SODIMM stick in the M16 was also 1Rx16, however the soldered RAM is faster, so less likely to see as much of a change by swapping it on the Zephyrus.

[@moindiwan5643]

Is alienware x17 review coming???

[@lemonlamp]

M16 as I can't stand the legions loud logo on the back

[@vagdirts2891]

asus 💪🏼

[@AaryanBrox]

HP Victus 16 ryzen 7 5800h with rtx 3060 review please

[@Priyajit_Ghosh]

Great review brother. I want to buy Lenovo Legion 7, but the battery issue is turning me down. The ICUE software is battery hog and taking away power, and disabling it is handicapping the customization. I am waiting for Lenovo to fix this, as I prefer Legion 7 to 5 Pro.

[@Troyless]

Can we just appreciate how this guy keeps continuesly releasing quality content?

[@gametests]

true

[@markdove5930]

Its his job... And i have problems with his style. Doesn't let me listen to the speekes no gameplay.

[@bfish9700]

I'm not even in the market for a laptop, his reviews are just really good.

[@dann6067]

@@markdove5930 ok boomer

[@vigneshiyer123]

sounded biased toward m16 bcos he owns it

[@jonturner2742]

I spent ages trying to track down a 5 Pro with the 3070 here in the UK. In the end wound up getting the more "boring" Legion 5 5800h with RTX 3070. Was very pleased, whilst I would like the screen of the Pro I realised that I always plug it into an external monitor or 2 anyway. Performance blew me away and then I used the money saved from the Pro that I couldn't find to upgrade the RAM and storage. Thanks for the RAM tip!

[@izzyforeally]

Ordered my L5 Pro late July via Lenovo, it's supposed to get here late September... I can't wait! After binging your channel for a week and comparing stats, you really made it easy. Thanks for the quality content!

[@syahti]

And whaiting realese gen intel in L5Pro 😅

[@Divionist]

Did you get it yet? 😱

[@izzyforeally]

@@Divionist Nope, Lenovo here in Australia has a history of accepting orders and giving an extremely rough ballpark estimate of when it could, potentially - maybe arrive. I waited till September and they changed the estimate to January 2022, so I rang and asked about it. They said as the laptops are still on back order they can only give me a rough estimate. Basically, they'll take your money and give you a promise of the laptop until they can actually guarantee it. I ended up going with an Asus G14 with an R9 5900HS and a RTX 3060. I couldn't be happier!

[@Divionist]

@@izzyforeally holy moly so, they made you wait potentially 6 months+ LOL Did you ever get your money back? Gratz on the Asus! that's a really solid choice and it looks *B E A U T I F U L* with that prismatic film on top especially the white version. But the overall design of that laptop is Great!

[@izzyforeally]

@@Divionist Yeah, the fact that they kept changing the date and couldn't give me a concrete time frame was disappointing to say the least. Regardless, the Asus G14 has been a breath of fresh air. I got mine in the black variant with a QHD 144hz Anti-Glare panel and upgraded the SSD to 1TB. My last device was a MacBook Pro, Mid - 2012 variant. So, you could say a BIT of an upgrade haha. Are you deciding on whether to buy the L5? I got a bit of an impression you were also waiting on yours in your initial comment.

[@Priyajit_Ghosh]

All the OEMs should send their product to you at first Jarrod! I trust you more than any other reviewer. Rather than them spending tons on advertising, they should simply send it to you if they have confidence.

[@Glebiys]

Right, If they have confidence

[@DeepteshLovesTECH]

Battery life advantage brought about first by Ryzen 4000, is pretty difficult to ignore now. Gaming laptops with great battery life, is a reality now, only on the Ryzen platform.

[@shadowform1264]

Lel if you are a gamer, just want power, fk battery lol

[@anmolbansal465]

@@shadowform1264 there are times where you are not gonna game and use the laptop normally so the battery life matters for a lot of users

[@shadowform1264]

@@anmolbansal465 nah man, when Im not playing i just unplug the charger for like 1 and half hours more or less, if needed i plug again, Simple, unless you can not use the charger There's no really a problem, and i have an Alienware a51m r2, if you game and dont walk around with your laptop you're fine.

[@anmolbansal465]

@@shadowform1264 the thing is a lot of students who are into games buy gaming laptop but use it to study too and need it during classes so that matters for a lot of people. But well, never said it's important for everyone.

[@shadowform1264]

@@anmolbansal465 just plug in the charger... why complicate? everyone else has a macbook

[@DONUTT360]

The reason why the microphone audio was better on the M16 was probably because in the "Realtek Audio Console", the "Acoustic Echo Cancellation" (AEC) was disabled by default. Whereas in the Legion 5 Pro, AEC was enabled by default in the Nahimic Sound Console.

[@twokay52]

Considering "AMD" is half a year older it's still amazing in terms of price and performance so it deserves the support!

[@demistr7435]

Could you add a section in the "Design, Size and Weight" where you put those laptops next to each other to actually see the difference in size? I would appreciate that.

[@sushimshah2896]

Yup, we need this upvoted!! I also wish to see the side diff side-by-side for a 15.6" & 16" laptop (Omen 15 & Victus specifically)

[@littlegiant4338]

he did it :O

[@GiLLyMGL]

nice idea bro!

[@JarrodsTech]

It depends on the comparison, that was simply impossible here as I haven't had the 5 Pro for months. The closed laptop on the table is actually the regular 5 that I bought and is just acting as a place holder. This is why every single clip was two different shots edited together.

[@demistr7435]

@@JarrodsTech yes i noticed that as well but maybe for some future comparisons it would be nice.

[@devische1092]

Jarrod’s the only guy I trust when it comes to reviews

[@sourabh3584]

bro you really make very detailed review, for every laptop review I look if there is jarrod's review, if not, I'm 200% sure, no one goes in depth and as technical as you go! keep it up man!

[@JarrodsTech]

Thanks!

[@joelconolly5574]

Legion 5 Pro is definitely my choice. I'd probably sacrifice looks and portability but with performance like those I'd certainly benefit from it. I am surprised with the brightness results though. It's unexpected to say the least.

[@maysonskyy]

the looks on legion 5 pro is simple but futuristic too

[@cov_.g9702]

Definitely

[@snowdawn]

I agree. I would also pick the Legion 5 Pro. For me performance is key and it has the ability to turn off the iGPU to boost more FPS in games.

[@ngeorge9673]

As someone who owns the 5 Pro, it's a good choice. Also, about the brightness, it's definitely an odd choice from Lenovo. Other than max brightness, the brightness level drops off heavily like Jarrod shows. It's like every other brightness is significantly darker than max brightness. It's not a smooth drop off at all. Hopefully, Lenovo can fix that in software. It's just a weird choice. Luckily, I am accustomed to lower brightness so it doesn't bother me that much.

[@lofasz3328]

I'm so stuck on what to get especially because the fucking supply is so shit. I could for sure get a asus g14 2021 for 2000$ CAD or I can get a legion 5 pro from lenovo for like slightly more somehow but also it would take I've heard a few months to even arrive... so shitty

[@machenka]

The 2021 Legion lineup is insane! For the first time, I jumped on the wagon buying a Legion 5 Pro 5800/3070 and it’s just amazing! I can max the battery time by using the integrated graphics and 60 Hz monitor setting and just bring a USB-C charger if I need to keep it going for a bit longer in meetings etc. while it can be cranked up to the full 3070 140W 165 Hz gaming experience when I want to do that. I bought a cooling pad to put under it so it’s even running quietly as well. It’s gonna be a couple of gens before I can be convinced to buy a new laptop!

[@Hellmanzz]

Same but with 3060 :D Love it ! You can limit temps with ryzen controller, works like magic. I use it to limit to 80c degrees

[@timenoen]

How much you paid

[@tekitez3949]

can't wait to see reviews of the legion series with intel processors

[@andmicbro1]

Can't wait for the all AMD models, lol!

[@syahti]

@@andmicbro1 lol intel ready sale

[@theretron3856]

intel trash

[@milspecsg]

really liking your quality reviews and i swapped the RAM on my legion 5 pro because of your video!

[@Maaz.khan41]

Did it improve performance??

[@milspecsg]

@@Maaz.khan41 quite a fair bit. Get the hyper x CL20 ram

[@minhal0558]

Was it difficult to get inside the laptop ? I heard that it’s a little tricky, was that the case ?

[@milspecsg]

@@minhal0558 just need to carefully pry off the back casing and remove the small metal shield covering the ram. Otherwise no big challenge. You can try watching the many disassembly videos out there.

[@renat1786]

Legion Pro has dedicated Insert key and PgUp/Down/Home/End keys. That's quite and an advantage for working with Total Commander and text, not many laptops has these ones.

[@asherofskrrrtburg3828]

Jarrodddds, how did you read my mind, i was waiting for this comparison video, MADDD

[@kinglygamingpro1749]

I think most people were asking for this comparison.

[@justbecause3187]

Comparing either of these laptops with the Asus ROG Strix G15 would also be interesting, although again it's probably down to availability and where your priorities lie.

[@becauseidonthavenitrotoupl4259]

Asus ROG Strix G15 and Lenovo Legion 7 are the 2 that I am currently torn between (Strix has a ryzen 9 while ll7 had ryzen 7, all other components are the same incljding rtx 3070). Issue is I don't see any big channel reviews on the Strix and so am leaning towards the lenovo legion

[@yuhin4694]

Both out of budget, but I am still watching because I love this channel, definitely the best channel for laptop/pc/hardware comparison and review

[@MightyThorus]

The best tech blog on KZbin! Thanks for your awesome stylish studio quality videos that always come with lots of details and analysis. Because of you I bough Legion 5 Pro and so happy with it.

[@fireflower5392]

Yes please do comparison between M16 and Legion 7, These are pretty much the laptops of the year!

[@ECS352]

Wait for the X1 Extreme Gen 4 review

[@M4cex]

Got the non-pro Legion 5 with 17.3" FHD@144Hz but otherwise same setup and loving it! Got it half the price from an outlet. Ended up upgrading it with anothe 1Tb m.2 ssd and 32Gb 3200 MHz ram kit for it to fully support games like Star Citizen.

[@dazdoukas]

Connected with hdmi?

[@dazdoukas]

What fps u get on csgo

[@johnnypancheff3930]

Hey Jarrod, the best laptop for me and I hope they will announce it anytime soon so I can buy it , would be - Lenovo Legion 7 with its superb minimalistic design, AMD Advantage (R9 5900HX + RX6800m) and that gorgeous 165 Hz x1600 screen

[@dandylion-evn7w2]

So for Blender use which should, I get? I don't game whatsoever. I just want to get it for modeling, animation, and rendering. What would the battery life be like? And better price range affordability-wise?

[@Ku6epIIe4eHe7]

Both are great, but the Legion has a better screen and color accuracy which is crucial for modelling.

[@francoasencioscarlos3570]

@@Ku6epIIe4eHe7 Zephyrus*

[@Ku6epIIe4eHe7]

@@francoasencioscarlos3570 Legion*

[@hidean4537]

If you look at 1:26 mins of this vid, you will see that the srgb, adobe rgb and dcp-i percentage of Zephyrus is far better, if its for content creation go for Zephyrus for sure. Goodluck with your studies fellow animation student!

[@kenhew4641]

@@Ku6epIIe4eHe7 it literally shows on the review numbers that the Zephyrus has higher color gamut and accuracy so it's much better for content creation. For battery life, affordability though the Legion beats the Zephyrus. If OP doesn't game then obviously the Zephyrus is the one she should get. But if battery life and affordability is a priority, then get the Legion, since the difference is miniscule

[@iau]

6:43 FINALLY!! Yes! I've been saying this for months now: Everyone claims different sized RAM sticks are the devil, but absolutely no one on the internet has taken the time to show in what ways or if at all.

[@JavierPomarC]

I was destroying myself thinking whos better, thx for your video :D

[@andrewterry5127]

Worth saying that upgrading the RAM does depend on the kit you get and it isn't a case of spending more. I tried Ballistix 2*16 GB (which wouldn't actually run at 3200), GSkillz 2*16 GB and finally the standard crucial 2*16GB 3200 and it was the latter which was the fastest. Have posted the userbenchmark and cinebench previously if anyone wants them. Absolutely not an expert, i just happened to see the video on the Legion 5 Pro RAM and thought i'd do even better if i spent a bit more. To clarify - all options were better than the Samsung stock mine came with but it was the standard Crucial which gave most improvement - lucky coincidence that's what Jarrod had lying around!

[@gabood]

I ordered the M16 as I'm buying it for uni and will be doing a lot of CPU intensive tasks, like using photoshop and other adobe suit products. The screen must be good for me because a lot of these tasks will need to be color accurate. This being said I still want to be able to game in my free time so I think I made the right decision. Thanks so much this really helped my decision

[@thefeudallord3149]

Nice

[@tinkoland]

how is it holding up?

[@gabood]

@@tinkoland I've sold it now, but I had it for 2 years or so and it was very good during that time. No issues with it for me.

[@pdfm9943]

hey jarrod! can you do a video of how to clean a gaming laptop fan. Ik there are lots of guides out there but i really like your style of teaching! Cheers!

[@altamashparwaiz2097]

Legion 5 pro simply because i love the design and a far better port placements... also that gorgeous display..!

[@shApYT]

What the actual f is happening with laptop webcams? It looks like it is capable of capturing paranormal activity. At least ASUS bothered to give us one this time.

[@Ghostsonplanets]

Check Framework laptop webcam on Linus video. It's much higher quality than the usual crop. That should be the minimum webcam quality OEMs should strive themselves to put on their laptops.

[@JarrodsTech]

I've written about why laptop cams suck here: jarrods.tech/why-do-laptop-cameras-suck/

[@mini9503]

@@JarrodsTech DID NOT know you had a written website!!!

[@rabysimon]

I bought a legion 5 pro after Everybody's review :p now I guess it's time to see how it holds up to The competition.... Thanks :)

[@minhal0558]

Are you happy with it ? Isn’t the 16 inches screen an issue concerning the portability ?

[@rabysimon]

@@minhal0558 not at all, the laptop is not bigger than most 15 inch laptop .

[@minhal0558]

@@rabysimon Thanks a lot for the answer dude, you convinced me for this one, still figuring out if I buy the 3060 one or the 3070, depending on the price difference

[@rabysimon]

@@minhal0558 3070 ! It will outperform the 3060 by a lot even compared to the Lenovo Legion 7i running the 3060

[@minhal0558]

@@rabysimon Alright I made my choice thanks to you hahah, cheers brother

[@sudomakes]

I appreciate such a detailed review. Keep it up man. I really hope you get more views

[@goqwertygo]

I love my 17" Legion 5 Ryzen7, 2070. I got it in December 2020. Now I wish Lenovo had a 17" or 18" 16:10 Pro 😕 17" have SD card slots👌 Another over looked feature the Legion has is the rubber dust gasket that goes all the way around the screen. most laptops are just tiny rubber circle dots. You may not use a num pad that often, but for a laptop its so nice to have one!👌 This Legion will play Doom Eternal for hours on my lap with a KLM airflow cooler. Never notice any heat from the keyboard and palm rest!👌

[@Darkhalo314]

@Jarrod'sTech My Legion 7i CTO (11980HK, 3080, 32GB) came in last night and on Battlefield 1 at 1600p maxed settings, I am getting 150+ FPS! The performance is amazing for a gaming laptop. CPU was at 81C and my GPU was at 73C!

[@mem.info0]

Info. And video quality are in another level ... YOU ARE THE BEST

[@JarrodsTech]

Thank you so much 😀

[@QuentinMarques]

Hey, really leaning towards the M16 (11900 and 3070), but here in France its total price is about 2500 euros ($ 2800) while the Lenovo is easily 400 euros cheaper... hard choice !

[@abhigyandatta13]

The m16 is a better general laptop, the legion is a better gaming laptop

[@harshk1969]

Hoping to see your review of the 2021 Legion 7i :)

[@andeluuledna]

I just like the look of the M16 so much more, which makes it a hard choice, cuz legion 5 pro performs better overall. 😖 ahh

[@KvngSlayer]

I thought i was the only one.I just love the way the m16 looks the screen, the keyboard, how slim it is.The battery life comparison really had me down.I still think i will go for a lower specced m16

[@6shnuggle6]

Im a bit late here, but buy what you feel right with. Esthetics is important as you do look, touch and carry it around. Plus, both lappys are great. Seriously this video is nit picking.

[@StradaCrown]

both laptop actually sick on their own way. yet since i'm a quite mobile worker, choosing L5pro would be a nuisance bcs of its bulky size. definitely would pick L5pro if i were fully working from home.

[@theretron3856]

bad choice lenovo is best

[@JayJay-jx3zg]

@@StradaCrown i/o definitely better as a desktop on the Legion. So much more tidy with the majority of the ports in the back. I use every single port with my 2 monitor setup. I couldn't look at the M16 with all the cords out of it looking like an octapus or Madusa.

[@Shoki05]

Been hunting for a laptop, exactly what i needed, thank you. subscribed

[@garyschleehauf6081]

This sealed the deal for me on the M16, I'll need to keep looking for a 3070 version tho, they are nowhere to be found. Amazing review

[@Medsas]

@jarrod'stech Lenovo had a deal last week, it was the Legion 5 pro with 3070, 32 gb ram, 2x1TB NVME, RGB keyboard and 5800H for 1475 USD all-in. Only problem is the delivery is in December. Should I keep my order or cancel? thanks

[@FuzzyToasters]

wtf that’s a steal in the current market, mine came in at 1950ish USD before tax with near identical specs, only difference is mine has 16gb of ram if you can handle the wait, definitely do! i’m really happy with my laptop as is, but man is it a miracle you managed that price at all

[@Medsas]

@@FuzzyToasters im worried that in december, the 3070 super will come out and the 3070 laptops prices will tank

[@FuzzyToasters]

@@Medsas based off the current state of things, i wouldn’t stress it too much tbh, prices likely won’t come down that much if at all given the supply shortages, plus you already got it for super cheap 😭 if i were you i’d just keep an eye on the shipping date as that may change, and worst comes to worst just cancel before it ships and you still lose nothing

[@invisibledirk]

This video style is great! Super straight and to the point. Also your voice is great for commentary😂👍

[@MrEvil666maiden]

I appreciate your laptop reviews as someone who wants to game and have my fiance use it for school, and appreciate your band merch. Was a cool surprise watching a tech video and I saw you wearing an In Flames T. 🤘

[@JarrodsTech]

🤘

[@channelschannel]

Perfect comparison, all the boxes checked

[@baccus]

Mate you're doing amazing. The best review channell I see. I decided what to buy and still watching :)

[@DolphinsAreBetterThanHumans]

Hi jarrod. Great video. I want your advice. i have three laptop options to choose from 1. i5-10500h + 3060 75W / $1213 2. i5-11300h + 3060 85W / $1281 2. Ryzen 5 5600h + 3060 85W / $1348 Rest of the specs are the same for all three. which one would you recommend me ?

[@Sedds06]

Very good video indeed, it cleared many doubts about which one to choose. But I think the fairest comparison would have been, that you compare a ryzen 9 vs a i9, since comparing a ryzen 7 vs an i9 was somewhat unfair. Anyway, I send you a super greeting from Perú :)

[@hruthikvarma1063]

Your voice is so soothing

[@christang9406]

Subscribed, thanks Jarrod!

[@JarrodsTech]

Awesome, thank you!

[@anhnam8863]

omg like you read my mind!!! Def 2 of the most wanted laptops this gen

[@StarFanaticCraft]

I definitely thought the M16 wouldve beat the battery life of the Legion 5 Pro, but damn my Legion 5 Pro is flexing. Such a justified purchase

[@Arisha_Najjaran]

Hi jarrod, i got the legion 5 pro. I was wondering what is the best SSD and RAM to upgrade the machine in your opinion? Thanks for the great content🙏🏻❤

[@thataakarsh790]

Make sure you get 1x8 RAM matching the speed of the existing module or 3200 MHz or higher if you are replacing both. For the SSD, it only supports PCIe 3.0 so the pre-installed one is fine, although if you need more storage I would go with whatever’s cheaper but decent in your area - in general, you can’t go wrong with a 900 series Samung EVO.

[@Arisha_Najjaran]

@@thataakarsh790 tnx👍🏻

[@petepeeve]

Go for kingston fury impact for max speed (3200) via jedec and the best secondary timings. Remember that xmp profiles aren't available on ryzen and you need to check default jedec speed of the ram you're purchasing.

[@captainpicard3016]

I got my Legion 5 Pro with 5800H + 3060 + 32GB + 1TB for 5700 Ringgit Malaysia, around 1400 USD. Dunno why it's so expensive in the US. I've been using it for almost 2 months, the only issue is that the screen takes around 3 seconds to wake instead of instantly on every other laptop I've used. The behavior is really weird, it wakes instantly but it's super dim, but waits 3 seconds to return to normal brightness.

[@Den-bp6nz]

May i know where did you buy your laptop from? pretty good deal

[@idkyou657]

I bought a Legion 5 Pro with 5800H + 3070 + 16GB + 1TB. I’m using mine for university and gaming aswell. I’m receiving it mid this month, what’s your overall opinion on it as you’ve started using it?

[@Den-bp6nz]

I saw in lenovo website just now and the price for the same specs as u stated was rm 6.7k. Did u get any discount for that 1k cheaper??

[@Procrastinatingtiger]

Following

[@idkyou657]

@@Den-bp6nz just checked the website and the price changed from last month to this month, it’s increased by a grand HAHAHAHAHA

[@rorschachroach]

Just got the 5 pro on sale for 1600 maxed specs. Will be here Wednesday.

[@Amin-e.]

you knw why you don't get much comments on your videos ? bcz you said everything on it. very informative video 👌🏻

[@rowdq]

Hey Jarrod I'm torn between the Legion 5 Pro and Rog Strix G15 Advantage edition. Which do you think is the better overall package for day to day use for Casual gaming and productivity. Thanks

[@RichardsWorld]

I just got the 7i with 11980HK. The CPU will continuously use 90W under load. But I still only get 13,102 on Cinebench R23.

[@RichardsWorld]

I tested it a couple times with the same score. I tested it again without changing anything but the score went up to 13,559

[@JarrodsTech]

From memory that's quite good for Intel!

[@RichardsWorld]

@@JarrodsTech the Lenovo community has to figure out how to get in to the advanced bios, and then we can undercolt it. I guess there was a way to get in to the advanced bios, but that button combination doesn't work anymore.

[@RichardsWorld]

With undervolting I can get around 14,100 on average.

[@GregDeocampoogle]

love this channel. well done!

[@deadeyenub]

MAN YOU ARE A HARDWORKING MAN KEEP GROWNG

[@sidharthsinghchouhan9024]

@Jarrod'sTech great comaparison video and really you make notes and give very detailed info on any device hatsoff man...

[@davemeech]

Excellent comparison, thank you for your super in depth and pertinent information as per usual!

[@108_hariswirananda7]

I love your reviews, although there are some bias but you're the most honest reviewer by far. Also you gives infos and specs that many would just completely skip away. Can't wait to see you review RDNA2s laptops and compare them to Nvida's offerings

[@遥未來]

Lenovo products haven't fixed the problem of no sound coming out of the speakers on Linux for a long time. It seems that the cause is that a special chip is used for the amplifier, and Lenovo does not disclose the information, so it seems that the correspondence will not proceed. If you want to use Linux with Lenovo, you will only have WSL2.

[@dian8801]

This is absolutely right video to watch, I Just considered to buy one of these two and this video appear at my notifications,

[@hongyuguo1923]

Awesome review!

[@ghostieeitsohg]

Nice vid ! I came to check lenovo legion y540 but hey your channel got some screentime on Linux tech tips.

[@guilhermemonteiro5032]

Really impressed with the battery life of the legion 5 pro at 60hz

[@TheSawpaddy]

Thanks for the details video, great work & good job. Would go for Legion 5 Pro

[@Oshibka_novichka]

Thanks for u opinion and test.

[@AhmedHeshamTube]

Great work! I like how detailed and thorough and organized all your videos are! In the future when it comes out I wish to see a comparison between the M16 and its Legion counterpart Legion 7i since both use intel CPUs

[@VaimanikaShastra]

I have the legion 5 pro after 2 weeks.....it's simply amazing and also quite and cold much much more than many others

[@MARJESSmusic]

Thinking about getting a fully upgraded zephyrus m16. 2 tb 40gb ram. Is there going to be any ram or memory issues? If so should I just stick to a 1tb with lower ram? Plz lmkkk

[@karthikhs4148]

Love your content Jarrod, what is your thoughts on indian pricing, legion 5 pro 3060 1750dollars and 3070 variant at 2000 us dollars exact(ofcourse after conversion), is it worth the upgrade mainly for games.

[@VedanthB9]

I have the Legion 5 Pro (3070), and it definitely runs any games you throw at it. It’s a great upgrade if your current laptop is old.

[@vitaligent]

This was a great and comprehensive comparison. That said, if you had started off with the memory being soldered, I would’ve stopped watching then, because that is a dealbreaker.

[@Defender004]

Hey jarrod can you make a video on the framework laptop. Because I really liked the Idee of totally upgradable and repairable laptops. But I haven’t found anything Performance and Power Limit based in other reviews Yet, and I would love to know how e sport games like overwatch run on it. So I Hope you Review it soon. By the way great comparison video, I really liked it.

[@Ultimateorigami2013]

Jarrod, are you going to review the legion 7i?

[@supremacy98]

Jarrod'sTech could you do a review on the aorus 15p xc? I'm interested to see how it stacks up with other higher wattage gaming laptops like the legion 5 pro 😁

[@botman4566]

is 3070 in legion 5 worth 250$ ?? Also please tell if legion with 3060 with upgraded ram works better

[@InfoSecTube]

which one is better sir?m16 or dell xps 15?for reqular work and programing stuff for long usage

[@scottburgessmedia]

Problem in Australia though, you can't get any lengion laptops til around December if you want to upgrade the GPU to a 3070 or 3080. Sure, they'll let you place the order, but then the date will say December for shipping :'(

[@justbecause3187]

Is the M16 more available?

[@ajayisamuel7116]

Great comparison Jarrod , please could you do a comparison between the Legion 7i, Zephyrus m16 and Legion 7 Thanks

[@Supcharged]

That battery life difference is insane

[@zs2001]

So is the temperature difference in gaming and stress test. I can imagine that would only get wider with undervolting on the zephyrus M16.

[@Supcharged]

@@zs2001 it will use the newly gained thermal headroom to boost performance, so i dont see it running any cooler.

[@zs2001]

@@Supcharged Undervolting reduces temps since by default factory configured cpu's tend to be fed more voltage than required which causes overheating. This reduces both temps and power consumption.

[@Supcharged]

@@zs2001 that doesn't mean it wont use the thermal headroom to clock higher instead if it can.

[@zs2001]

@@Supcharged The given temps were already much below throttling limits. Now why did it not boost higher then? A waste of thermal headroom won't you say :P Power throttling seems like a more plausible cause why it does not boost higher in spite of the thermal headroom. Moreover, the 11900H was already almost hitting its all core boost speed of 4.4Ghz while gaming without undervolt, so I do not expect there to be any increase in temps with undervolt.

[@caloyness]

Gaming wise legion pro , that MUX switch is the deal breaker even compared to other models. For more general use, i would go for the M16.

[@jamreal18]

Why? I like Mux Switch as it is better than Optimus

[@caloyness]

@@jamreal18 ya i mean mux switch is the winner for gaming

[@p4ndora939]

Will there any review for the new HP Omen 16 or 17? Interested to see what's the difference besides the size.

[@jamreal18]

I tried to visit Asus store in Philippines. I inquired about specs and noticed that they are not revealing the TGP of GpU in Specs. They are purposely hiding it. I asked the salesman what is GPU wattage or TDP of their laptop, they said they don't know. Buying laptops these days is so risky.

[@comeng540M]

I would choose the legion 5 pro because: 1, Legion 5 pro rock AMD Cpu while the M16 have intel Cpu 2, legion 5 pro have a mux switch

[@jamreal18]

GpU wattage of M16 is so low.

[@olsirmonkey]

But theres so much more that you can do with intel

[@Selimify]

@@jamreal18 Also expensive than legion 5 pro

[@rodrilinares6734]

THANKS JARROD, THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!

[@andersonsdagslotto8365]

Hellon Jarrod, I now this is quite the late question, but isn't it the wrong Legion laptop you have laying on the table in the side by side shot? It looks more like the legion 7 pro to me!

[@guitarequalsawesome5667]

im curious about the legion 5 pro vs the G513 advantage edition. both with the upgraded memory and the QHD screen! im curious about gaming performance, screen quality heat output and noise output between those any chance you will be doing a video comparison with those?

[@pmpalihena]

Can someone please correct me if I'm wrong. Arent all these gaming laptops without the Mux switch usually switched to the dedicated NVIDIA GPU automatically when a game starts? And switch back to the integrated graphics when in normal use. This is to help save the battary. So I honestly don't know why these KZbinrs keep saying "having mux switch is better to improve the gaming performance".. 🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️

[@ameet6384]

I ordered a Legion 5 Pro with RTX 3070 on July 28 (in US). The shipping estimates is 30 November 2021. Crazy long delay!!! Is it worth waiting for so long?

[@Gmoney30001]

I ordered my legion 7 on the day of on July 2nd at first said December then went to November November said end of july then said November then switched back to Aug 17 now switched today to Aug 30th so not sure man hopefully comes earlier

[@teeedog1]

Was it worth it

[@ishimarumasaki1998]

I didn't think the 5 pro would come without fan control... Looks like i have a new favorite.

[@shivshah5934]

It's funny how he kept the legion 7 on the table at 7:00 and called it the 5 pro... Infact all the table shots with laptops on sides have the 7 😂

[@uncannygary1092]

I'm in love with that HDMI Cable

[@tuttutt772]

I got the nitro 5 since I was I on a budget and I got a r7/3060 for $999 and it's gone pretty well other than the GPU having a low power limit when it can defo push higher, but the no mux is really holding it back on the m16

[@Selimify]

Nitro 5 have mux switch ?

[@tuttutt772]

@@Selimify no but hdmi is directly connected to dgpu

[@InkandcanvasShardul]

Please do a comparison between Asus Rog Strix G15 Advantage edition and Lenovo Legion 5 Pro

[@rajeshbedi]

Best comparison i have ever seen..

[@confidentlocal8600]

This is the first review I've found that even mentions Linux. Does all the hardware work on the Legion, such as adjusting the brightness, sleep/wake, WiFi, etc.? It has always been hit-or-miss with Linux on laptops. Does the scaling work correctly to render the UI at an appropriate size for the display? Also, do you feel a the WQHD+ display is lacking in quality for text and productivity compared to 4k?