Which 24-105 to CHOOSE? Sony vs. Canon vs. Sigma

[@videojeroki]

I think the way you check the sharpness is incorrect: - no tripod, - no use of resolution chart - no manual focusing

[@videojeroki]

Gregori O Yes, that was my first thought but then i took a 7h walk and a warm bath, and i come up with a politically good word that i found in a french-english dictionary: incorrecte --> incorrect

[@connormccaskill]

I am so sorry that you were so upset here. I am ignorant when it comes to lens tests and I am simply doing my job trying to fill a quota of two videos a week for this channel. Its a hard grind and this video took a long time as it is to make. I hope you will stick around as I will be ridiculously particular next time I do a review.

[@connormccaskill]

Im sorry you feel that way and I now know how to do a proper lens test review. You won't be disappointed. In fact it will be the best damn lens test you've ever seen.

[@ALEXMADE]

Man, use tripod next time. Good luck

[@Rationalific]

+Jérôme Chatillon: A tripod should be used. A resolution chart, not necessarily. And NOT manual focusing. This is more of a test on how these lenses will perform in "real world" situations. A tripod evens things out, as you may shake more or less in different situations. However, we also want to see "real world" shooting situations (not just charts, which also don't really show any bokeh), and they should NOT be manually focused because one lens might have excellent resolution if it hits, but it misses 80% of the time and takes a long time to focus when it hits, as opposed to another lens that hits 80% of the time and takes a short time to focus. This is not a DXO lens test. This is supposed to show what people will see if they actually use these lenses.

[@6gwilliams]

Love my Sigma 24-105mm Art on my Sony A7R2 and A7R3. This lens stays on my camera more than any other. AF is great with updated firmware on my MC-11 adapter. Yes you should be on a tripod for these tests, and using a resolution chart to be exact. Too many variables when you handhold. Also this Sony is not a G-Master lens and not really meant to compete at that level. The Sigma Art series is meant to compete with G-master lenses. I opt for this Sigma's better resolution and sharpness over this Sony. Hey I have Sony G-Master 70-200mm f2.8 and it is tops. If you are going for the best Sony glass , buy G-master lenses, less chromatic aberration and barrel distortion has been shown, as well better sharpness corner to corner. Sigma Art lenses have won many tests against native glass. Better for my budget too. Sigma Art lenses are built really solid and have stood up to my professional use, trekking around the world. In addition to this Art 24-105, I also have Sigma Art 20mm f1.4, and Sigma Art 85mm f1.4 lenses and Sigma Contemporary 150-600mm f5-6.3. Love them all and are thrilled with the image quality and build quality. Sigma quality and value have allowed me to have more gear without sacrificing image quality.. Also have the Sony FE 28mm f2, sharp ,compact and affordable, a real best buy. And I also have a specialty lens that neither Sigma or Sony have, a Canon 17mm f4. Tilt-Shift lens that is great for architecture and landscape and special "minature" look art photography. The Canon works great with the Sigma MC-11 adapter on my Sony cameras. Will I buy any native Sony lenses in the future, sure if I feel the need for something I cant already cover, maybe a G-Master macro. Adapted Sigma and Canon glass has allowed more people to be able to afford and ease into the switch to Sony cameras. You can't ignore the value of this. The Sony folks I have talked to recognize and appreciate this. Cheers for your effort !

[@connormccaskill]

Wow Gerald...thank you for your time to add this really valuable comment here. I really appreciate it! Personally, I really liked using the 24-105 from Sony simply for the AF performance and the size. It is seriously significantly lighter than the rest and that is something that I find value in.. I own the 18-35 from sigma and have owned the 50mm 1.4 in the past as well and love them...but my back always hurts when I use their lenses. The image is so freaking sharp...but the weight of them tends to be very high compared to the native options. Im thinking of picking up the 24-35 f2 for my 1DC as a walk around lens for this channel. Have heard great reviews on it and the range is the only range I need for talking head videos. I will always use a tripod and a chart next time I do a lens test. I am primarily a video shooter so all this photography stuff is new to me and I apologize for my ignorance.

[@6gwilliams]

Only the Word, I used my Sigma Art 24-105 (Canon EF mount) with the great MC-11 adapter on my A7R2 for almost a full year in all conditions and for a myriad of subjects. The AF speed was fine and always seemed fast enough. Yes the lens/adapter combo is heavy, but is better balanced if you have the battery grip on the A7R2 like I had. This combo will work fine. If you already have the Sigma 24-105mm just keep it and use it. Yes right now the A7R2 are a real bargain , new and used. I upgraded to the A7R3 and yes it focuses faster than the A7R2 but I loved my A7R2 and it was the best when it was the top of the Sony line. If you can afford the A7R3 you may like its improved ergonomics and controls and its faster focusing. But don't get me wrong , you can make fabulous images with the A7R2. I did. Cheers

[@6gwilliams]

AngelDigitalis, All MC-11 compatible Sigma Art lenses will work fine on your A7R3 with full AF-C and Eye-AF, no problem. If you can afford the native Sony lenses they are usually a little lighter , but more expensive than the comparable great Sigma Art lenses which are very solid build, yet more affordable. I have Sigma Art lenses (EF mount for use with the super MC-11 adapter), and I also have Sony native lenses. I love them all and image quality is pretty equal. I understand the natural tendency to shy away from non-native lenses, but Sigma Art and Contemporary series lenses are wonderful with my Sony A7R3 and A6500. Do some research on lenses you might be interested in. I am here to help you in any way if you need some advice about particular lenses, Sony or Sigma. I have been shooting with both since I switched to Sony in January 2017.

[@6gwilliams]

www.eoshd.com/2018/01/sony-a7r3-users-throw-away-canon-lenses/ Only the word, Check out this new video showing Sigma focusing on Sony A7R3

[@MilutinLabudovic]

@@6gwilliams any thoughts on video focus with sigma 24-105. is it to compare with native lenses for video work. tnx

[@kp66udv]

i'd love to see reviews on different lenses with not only "technical tests" (ie. Sharpness, Vignetting, Distortion, Flare, Bokeh etc), but also includes their rendering outcome, how they render “3D reality” into "flat images“. The color, the dynamic range, the blow out, the shadows etc. Thanks for your reviews btw, keep up good work.

[@connormccaskill]

Thank you Steve! This was my first lens review so I will take your notes and apply them to the next time I do one. Thank you!

[@marcomark8]

Thank you! You just helped me finalize my Choice of Sony Lens.

[@UncompressedWAVmusic]

Hi Dave, even though the 3 lenses are close, your comments about sticking with the native lens and that the Sony was better at focusing and also better at filming stability sold me on just looking to get the Sony G 24-105 lens. I mainly take photos however would want a 24-105 lens that can also excel at video.

[@RobertLeBlancPhoto]

The Canon is ultra sharp in the middle and softens at the edges, which is why I love it as my portrait and all around lens on my 5D4.

[@connormccaskill]

Thanks for chiming in Richard. You are most certainly correct and I will always test lenses using native glass from now on because of this.

[@JeffCreates]

Unfair test on video - if you're going to accept there is an adapter on, you need to do what you can do bring them together - so turn off the in body stablisation. This is a lens test, not a camera+lens test.

[@UncompressedWAVmusic]

If I want a lens for a Sony camera that I would leave all stabilization on.

[@miguelpena2583]

Now that Sigma as a Sony version and says that the software inside is from Sony it would be interesting to compare both less again, something that as far as I know no one has done. Thanks for the video 🙏

[@CaravanMovies]

Sir I want to buy sony a7iv and use canon EF lenses using adapter so in this case does it work perfectly like IBIS and autofocus or it has some limitations ?

[@spen.surrr1199]

Fuck the haters, you could have dont better but the AF test was worth it. I’m not happy with my new a7iii using sigma and canon glass... I’ll be purchasing the 24-105 sony

[@connormccaskill]

Thanks dude! Really appreciate the love. Ya the AF is MUCH better on Sony

[@spen.surrr1199]

im a new videographer check out my vids if you don't mind, I only started about a month ago on my 6d ii. Also you put in a lot of work into this video more than I could imagine doing. Your glasses are Hip AF

[@jjr334]

Why you didn’t test the Canon with IBIS too!

[@joseluisphotoReal]

can you update this after the firmware update to mc11? im finding sigma art with mc11 to be native level performance these days

[@swamydayanand4306]

Just the review I was waiting for..... Thank👍

[@massimilianocusin4265]

Important question!!! On the market there are 2 similar lenses but with a big price difference. The sony 18-105 f.4 OSS G (cheaper) and the sony 24-105 f.4 OSS G (more expensive). Are there differences in sharpness that justify buying the 24-105 over the 18-105? Because if it is the same, the 18-105 makes more sense for all in one! Im asking because there aren't direct comparisons of those two lenses, only one or the other!!!

[@jw0001]

The 18-105 is a crop lens. You won’t get the full frame sensor resolution with it.

[@dylanhamilton7755]

I don’t understand how you compare all these without a tripod to take the exact same picture with all three lenses

[@videojeroki]

Dylan Hamilton he just doesn't. It's pure improvisation. He could have use existing test and compare in one small post in a blog. But he preferes to make a long improvised incorrect video, now he can show his friends how cool he is. Typical youtubers.

[@connormccaskill]

Yay! Thanks for the love guys. So nice.

[@connormccaskill]

Im not a photographer and I have been learning what the proper things are here on this channel. Next time I will use a tripod for sure. Im sorry you were upset about it.

[@dylanhamilton7755]

Kinotika I’m sincerely not mad at all my man. Just making a statement. I’ve been here since the first video. Enjoy your work

[@ManjunathSharma]

Kinotika , relax. Even I am not a professional. You know it's your review. You took all the pain of getting lenses and trying to see how they work.. By the way good job. There is no way you get the most pleasing comments when you decide to make an KZbin post..

[@aviatorman8]

Nice! Excellent review Dave thanks. Best part is the squash! You made me hungry dude haha! Cheers from WA State!

[@OmaGhomrawi]

I prefer if you used a tripod when comparing lenses thus you able test properly the sharpness at 100 ISO and at better shutter speed.

[@garyausten5939]

I've been looking for a lens for my Sony a99ii and the Sigma seems to be more in line with what I can afford. None of my lenses are Sony. My only disappointment in doing research is that nearly everything is testing an e-mount lens or using an e-body. I only have a-mount cameras (also have an a77). What has been anyone's experience with a Sigma 24-105 Art on an a-mount body? B&H has this lens on sale and I think I might pull the trigger.

[@TheRealHarrypm]

24-105 Art is the best and last A-Mount FF lens from the looks of it no Art 24-70 for A-mount.... as a Minolta shooter its kinda sad to see an F4 lens being the last modern pro glass for A-Mount

[@lifeofgerard]

I wish autofocus performance was better with the adapter.. the sony lens is still the only real option for sony shooters although the weaker iq..

Hey mate! Great vid, its one of the best comparsion out here, but I think the the adaptor is might just slowing down those lenses. The Sigma has a native sony mount lens, I guess it’d preform better in the aspect of focusing speed... What do you think? :) Im still hesitating between the sony and the sigma, but honestly I’d prefer the sigma because the color accurancy as the color abberation and casts are way more difficult to remove in post, while the sigma is just softer in the corners( and maybe slower a bit)

[@KetansaCreatesArt]

I think you got the Sony lens with focusing defect, that Sony themselves anounced. You have to enter the sereal number on the web link they provided, and it will show you whether it is one of them. Then send it to them for free repair, or replacenent. Before december 2020.

[@ChristyGL]

I just got my sony a7c with 50 mm 1.8 kit lens. It is awesome for that small lens but then I wanted one with zoom ability and my husband just got me the Sony G 24-105 F4 and I love it!! Super amazing and fast focus and love I can go from near to far on it. Starting to record my videos with it and I'm impressed!

[@idealab2798]

Can you compare canon 28-300 , canon rf 24-105 and Sigma 24-104 please

[@tadikovideo]

So the canon mrk II autofocus works with the MC11 adapter? Is it noisy at all?

[@connormccaskill]

It’s not bad!

[@tadikovideo]

Kinotika copy that. I'll be purchasing a sigma 18-35 and 24-105 art for cann mount and use the mc-11 adapter on the 6300. I think that should yield a much better result.

[@vocvoc9895]

You can't AF on a complete white target!

[@alanalain4884]

Thanks for the video, which there aren't many comparing the Sony and Canon 24-105. ...But I wished all these pictures would gave been tested on tripod with remote triggering or timer as for sharpness handheld could be different from a shot to another... Thank you for the test anyway.

[@hinchungng1801]

How is the auto focus of 24-105mm F4 mk II on A7Riii?

[@connormccaskill]

Its decent. Check the vid

[@TheRealHarrypm]

Sigma had a direct A-Mount version with an LA-EA3 it would have been far more faster and accurate over the EF version for adapting..

[@trekkingwithus]

But you didn't suggest which one you recommend us ??

[@connormccaskill]

I prefer the canon 24-105mm. I like the build of it and feel the IS is better than the rest! By the way... this video is so so old so I’m sorry for the quality of it. Please consider looking at my newer content! Lol

[@yashp9956]

which is the smallest ? I will go for light lens

[@connormccaskill]

Sony is smallest!

[@AdamChilll]

good job with this video! thank you :)

[@GameDevelopmentChannel]

Hey Kinotika can tell me which one of this Lenses can work with canon eos 200d and great video as always

[@connormccaskill]

Both the Sigma and Canon lenses would work

[@ethaneditor]

No sticks at 1/60th and you’re comparing Sharpness?

[@azizulzulzaha]

can you try the Tamron 35 1.8 VC? im wondering how it would work on the sony.

[@connormccaskill]

I would love to test all the Tamron VC primes eventually! Ill see what I can do!

[@torbjornolsson4851]

I bought the Sony 4/24-105 but I sent it back. It was very good in the middle and had excellent color rendition and AF. But I didn't like the performance in the corners. Too soft for me. I think I will be better off with the Tamron 2.8/28-75, or the Canon 2.8/24-70 with MC-11. Sonys 2.8/24-70 is too pricey to even be considered.

[@connormccaskill]

Now that the tamron 28-75 f2.8 exists, I don’t see a reason for the 24-105. The tamron is smaller and lighter, has better bokeh and low light performance and it’s cheaper!

[@torbjornolsson4851]

Yes, I think that's a good conclusion. I will order the Tamron as soon it's back in stock here in Sweden.

[@bsvphotography7]

I thought someone banging at my door.

[@rossalmeida1156]

Hi, The sigma 24-105 f4 is a super sharp lens at Centre ... but the border are soft even at f8/f11... I would not recommend this lens for group shots ... where as the Tamron 24-70 f2.8 G2 is the beast at f2.8 the sharpness is at Centre n not at borders but @ f4 onwards the sharpness is great all over the frame ... n this Tamron 24-70 g2 is recommend for all purpose either indoor n out door as well ... just try this lens ....its worth

[@teofilotizon1512]

Its good to compare but the one your doing is not the better way to compare.. use tripod with same focus in manual pin pointing same focus point, so that the sensor lock with the same reading even your using different lens.

[@connormccaskill]

Will use tripod in the future. Sorry

[@charruaporelmundo]

I’m waiting February sigma announcement hoping that a 24-105 will be part of the sigma fe line, if you do a similar review, please use a tripod :)

[@connormccaskill]

Lol. Yes absolutely. Sorry about that!

[@ThePhotographyHobbyist]

Opryland hotel is a cool place....and huge. Great place to go in winter. Enjoy the plants and humidity :-)

[@connormccaskill]

Absolutely! We will probably go there more for reviews in the future when the weather is bad!

[@jordon6855]

I feel like you're very bias towards Sony

[@connormccaskill]

Its because overall, on a Sony body, I really believe its the best option, even if its not the "best" of the bunch. It feels the nicest on the camera, the autofocus works best, and its much lighter. Its not all about the IQ...its a more practical lens for the small body size of the a7 line IMO

[@Seanvandeusen]

Honestly.. most of sony users stick to sigma and even the cheaply built Rokinon. Sony figured out how to make a hell of camera! But when it comes to lenses in the past 6 years they just aren't worth the price. There's many videos showing this with extreme tests. They aren't sharp, lots of fringing and contrasty. Their high-end lenses perform like Canon lowend lenses and their cheaper lenses are pure garbage. So if anything I think he went easy on Sony.

[@dudizm69]

Hello Kinotika, Thanks for this video, You may have forgot to talk about the price of these lenses. Which is to me an important variable! comparing a 1500e lens to a 800e has its importance i guess!?

[@OmaGhomrawi]

Cant take your review as a reference, All your images are handheld.

[@connormccaskill]

I know I know. Everyone hates this review. I’m sorry

[@OmaGhomrawi]

you made a good effort. We appreciate that, and hope to reproduce it again

[@connormccaskill]

We got a good one coming up. Used a tripod :)

[@cinevideo-nl7245]

You may also want to see this short review on the Sony 24-105mm lens: kzbin.info/www/bejne/i4alnYOEgJhrrLc

[@nagarjunamisagadda3456]

can u make a video of the gear you use?

[@Ronzar88]

I have to ask you if you updated the MC-11? It a biiiiiiiig difference af-wise.

[@connormccaskill]

I just rented the adapter from Lensrentals. I assume they would keep it up to date but I didn't check...sorry about that.

[@VincentandNika]

I think you can bring your tripod to try those lens in next time

[@Albertoepicness]

Easy answer is choose canon because it has the red ring and that looks the best.

[@Befric]

Alberto 9324 but Sony has the little button....! Hehe

[@howardkahn717]

sigma makes the 24-105mm f4 for the sony A mount.......if you use this lens on a sony A mount camera like the sony a99/2 then use the sony 24-105mm on a sony a73 YOU WILL notice that the image on the sigma 24-105mm A mount is much sharper.

[@haugiangmotovlog3839]

Thanks pro!

[@After.Photographer]

For anyone who is curious about Photo & Video AF testing with Sigma 24-105 + MC11 on Sony a6400 ( same processor as a6600 A73 A7R3 A9 ) 👉 kzbin.info/www/bejne/b6jblqtqeNmEgMU

[@s.bon.8952]

Thanks for the video man... I'm quiet surprised how many haters are around.. Keep up the good job

[@connormccaskill]

Lol thanks. This video is super old though! :)

[@After.Photographer]

for anyone who is curious about photo / video AF with Sigma 24-105 x MC11 ▸ kzbin.info/www/bejne/b6jblqtqeNmEgMU

[@jjr334]

The Canon 24-105 version II has the better IS off any other 24-105 I used, better than sony, better than canon´s version I and RF and of course better than sigma

[@specialized41]

Without tripod the photo comparisons are Useless.

[@town3]

SONY LOVE #1 thanks good video.

[@connormccaskill]

Sony lens is really really nice. If you're on a sony body its the only choice in my opinion. Fabulous glass.

[@vinoth6009]

We can use canon lens to Sony body

[@danielthomas7747]

Sorry to say but this is a bad comparison! The image you compare are not the same angle. Keep in mind that Sigma MC11 works only with Sigma lenses. You should have the Metabone 5 on the Canon lens. You are right when you say that native lens are better. Good luck for the next review, hope it will be better.

[@dopamining7621]

Hand held at 1/60th, with your rather hyper-active body language, and then pixel peeping? Analyzing critical sharpness at the pixel level just doesn`t work this way.

[@connormccaskill]

This was my first lens review. Never done one before and we’re not sure if we will in the future. Too many specifics that I’m not interested in testing. Most picky comments than any other video we’ve made. Not worth it

[@dopamining7621]

You sound resentful of the `picky comments` you`ve received, which is illogical because you`re claiming to evaluate an extremely picky lens quality: sharpness. Sharpness can by quantified using resolution charts and standardized metrics. You have waded in to this inherently picky process with your highly random test and lack of rigor. If you want to share your subjective thoughts on rendering, color cast, ergonomics, build quality, then go ahead. But don`t slag your audience as overly picky and `not worth it` just because you don`t understand what you`re doing.

[@Ronzar88]

Great video though :)

[@juntingzhou6923]

There is no point to compare native autofocus and adapter autofocus...

[@hp3642]

sorry, but this review doesn‘t make sense except the statement that you better buy native lenses.

Interesting test but not very methodical so the results are not very accurate or repeatable, suffice to say the native lens performs better on this camera.

[@genin69]

Im cringing so bad right now.. that exposed sensor.. swinging it around like that.. never heard of dust..

[@ThorTVtube]

My real issue with this is your sound effects. they're way loud. You've made me jump multiple times trying to listen to you talk and then unexpected loud punching sounds happen. I would just not use sound effects.

[@colourberry]

Tripod!!....

[@connormccaskill]

I’m sorry. Not something I thought of at the moment!

[@K2hydnige4537]

You are not a straight shooter anyone that has worked with lens before know that you are lying

[@trevwaters1]

What a load of rubbish. The sony lens does not cover the same area as the other 2 lenses. A terrible demo.

[@AugmentedGravity]

Weird comparison

[@tdf488m]

teenager can make test better then you lol :) make my day.

[@michaelespeland]

Not a valid review

[@mrnomore]

lol...

[@theboss069]

Dude your test is really bad.

[@Elyndyr]

Canon is a complete joke