Which Aircraft Have The Cleanest Safety Records?

Beyond comfort and fuel efficiency, safety is the priority for aircraft manufacturers and airlines across the globe. While flying is safe in comparison to many other forms of transport, accidents do happen. With this in mind, let’s take a look at the safest airliners utilizing data from 1970 onward. The data we examine in this video runs to 2019 and only considers aircraft that have had at least 50 production units.
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[@bkg5455]

It would be interesting to see the DC-10 line on that graph.

[@paulo.3065]

And the Comet as well as the Concorde.

[@Hype7media]

Hahaha

[@stephennjora6656]

Hehehe the coffin maker

[@chuckery5177]

It would break the graph.

[@mohamedreadhmellal365]

The picture wouldn't be supported by youtube

[@raffiboi22]

As a proud Brazilian, I am glad to see to see that Embraer is at the top of the list!

[@siripfreely]

Looking at just years in service and seat count isn't very useful though. The 737-600 for example has had no fatalities, but is it really safer than the 737-800? Only 69 -600s were built, and so there are much fewer flights with it compared to the -800 with 4991 units built. Similarly, the A340's clean record is impressive, but 377 entered airline service to begin with. A more useful metric would take into account either passenger*mile travelled, or cycles flown in revenue service, or both.

[@jatterhog]

@IBERIA EXPRESS AIRBUS A320-214 the 737-200 is literally considered one of the deadliest planes ever made 💀

[@davidwright7193]

The usual metric is hull losses per million flights. Passenger miles isn’t a good metric as very few accidents happen in cruise and so long haul flights would look much safer than they actually are.

[@BattousaiHBr]

i don't see how many units built matters. the only thing that should matter is service time (total flight hours per unit). 1 unit flying for 10 hours is the equivalent of 2 flying for 5 each. as for passenger seat, considering catastrophic crashes result in all passengers dying, i also don't see how the number of passengers would matter. from the point of view of you, one passenger boarding one plane, it doesn't matter how many other passengers are with you in that flight.

[@josephchason6853]

The L-1011 is one of the safest aircraft ever built.

[@paulo.3065]

Yes! That’s why they went on to become the industry leader. Lol

[@LukewarmFoxxo]

As opposed to the DeathCraft-10, which unfortunately was much more popular than the TriStar.

[@alooga555]

It's a shame Lockheed did not design the L-1011 to become freighters.

[@AceYoPro]

@@LukewarmFoxxo Had it not been for the fact that the RR RB211s had issues and were delayed it would have been the other way around lmao. Sadly that wasn’t the case, the L-1011 is a masterpiece.

[@atilllathehun1212]

@@alooga555 There were some Tristar freighters.

[@NicoLDMB]

I’m always impressed by the safety of good old 340

[@kyletrude1938]

That’s a miracle! I know someone involved in a a340 crash and he says to this day that the way the plane was built and the crew training (Air France) saved everyone’s lives

[@matthewsmith2787]

Bigger planes have much better safety records

[@atharvamalkar4482]

@@kyletrude1938 it was an overrun if I'm not wrong

[@kyletrude1938]

@@atharvamalkar4482 it did your right

[@topethermohenes7658]

@@matthewsmith2787 yes like the 747 oh wait...

[@Peter-55]

It’s not the aircraft, it’s who operates the aircraft. Human factors is still the largest contributing factor in aircraft accidents. Probably better to consider which airlines or regions of the world are safest.

[@kanzai12]

But by doing that, its will create flame war comment which they try to avoid

[@F12010Team]

yeah tell that to the B737 MAX

[@FlatEarthKiller]

737 max is the few that wasn't human related

[@Blank00]

If you disregard the 747-8 safety record because it's related to the original 747s or the NG due to its relation to other 737s, then by that logic, the A320NEO family should be disregarded for being related to the original A320s that got grounded for FBW teething issues

[@NarutoHarryPotter]

Wow I had no idea 717 has such a good record while being such an old plane. That’s impressive! 👍

[@williamerazo3921]

🤔

[@michaelmichniak7287]

Well the 717 is the grandchild of the DC-9, but it is not really that old being introduced in the late 90's and the last one being produced in 2006.

[@swagathshetty]

well its father the MD-80 has a very poor safety record ,even featuring in the film flight 2012 based on the alaskan airline crash

[@michaelmichniak7287]

@@swagathshetty The Alaskan crash was a maintenance issue, not the problem of the plane itself.

[@bossfight6125]

One with many deaths is the DC10: THY981 and AAL 191, both caused by mechanical failures, some others to mention are ANZ901 and UAL232

[@umi3017]

Dassault Mercure :Throughout their combined cumulative operational lifetimes, the Mercure accumulated a total of 360,000 flight hours, during which 44 million passengers were carried across 440,000 individual flights without any accidents occurring, and a 98% in-service reliability. --wikipedia

[@LukewarmFoxxo]

The Mercure was an exceptionally rare aircraft, so it wouldn't be fair to compare it with Airbus/Boeing aircraft.

[@JohnnieHougaardNielsen]

A safety "score" should also include non-accident incidents where the risk was very high, even if it did not come to fatalities or hull loss. An example is when the design of the systems are involved in pilot loss of situational awareness leading to dangerous situations.

[@AmbientMorality]

this is extremely subjective

[@Daniel27600]

Can you do which airlines have the cleanest safety record next?

[@pumpkin79]

ooo yes

[@jiggnfm]

I think Hawaiian airlines has never had any hull loss or fatal accidents as far as I know and they have been around since 1929!

[@osasunaitor]

Malaysian is going to be in the bottom of the list, the airline is the definition of bad luck

[@Chicken_o7]

iirc singapore and qantas are two that stand out for being the safest airlines

[@matthewsmith2787]

Jet2

[@LaczPro]

This need a Long Haul video

[@HonuFlight]

The Embraer ERJ series for sure. They have had no fatalities in their operational history.

[@widget787]

Thats true and quite a few of them built!

[@AceYoPro]

@@widget787 Quite few? What are you smoking… Theres a LOT of ERJs out there, you must be blind not to realise. Their safety record is incredible.

[@widget787]

@@AceYoPro Jesus Christ whats wrong with you? Ever heard of Irony?

[@AceYoPro]

@@widget787 was that irony? Sure as heck didnt look like it xD

[@widget787]

@@AceYoPro its very common to say "quite a few".

[@marc-andreservant201]

It's not surprising that "big boy" aircraft like the 737 are safer than small turboprops. Commuter planes are often flown by less established airlines with poorer maintenance procedures, and they tend to fly shorter routes (therefore a greater percentage of their flight time is spent on departure and approach, which are more dangerous than cruise).

[@BattousaiHBr]

on the other hand, embraer planes are mostly short-range as well and they have by far the least accident rate per service time.

[@nurrizadjatmiko21]

Now this is very interesting

[@williewalker8048]

as long as it 's safe from take-off to landing for me, I am quite happy with any type!

[@heotak3408]

All modern aircraft from airbus and boeing are generally safe with no inherent design flaws that will result in a fatal crash with the exception of early 747s with faulty cargo doors (united 811) / faulty pylons (el al 1862), 767 unintended reverse thrust deployment (lauda 004) and 737 rudder hardover / 737max mcas. I’ve yet to find an incident where an airbus crashed/caused fatalities solely due to mechanical reasons.

[@donaldstanfield8862]

Except for that. Yup

[@dopepopeurban6129]

XL Airways Flight 888 (A320), Air France Flight 447 (A330), Air France Flight 296 (A320), Indian Airlines Flight 605 (A320), EgyptAir Flight 804 (A320), Qantas Flight 72 (Uncommanded pitch downs, A330). Just to name a few dude…

[@matthewsmith2787]

It’s electronic rather than mechanical issues

[@Pedro_the_great]

That shows you haven't really looked then

[@itsbiancabitch1401]

@@dopepopeurban6129they where nothing to do with airbus you tried

[@devon896]

I mostly agree The A320 family, Boeing 777, Embraer E Jets & Q400 are probably some of the safest aircraft in the world.

[@asaaby06]

A380 is pretty impressive too.

[@devon896]

@@asaaby06 Agreed, I hope to fly on one later this year but they are very impressive.

[@r.k862]

How so? In wiki it shows the a320 had about 50 incidents

[@darkpiano5274]

I’d say the Airbus A380 is the safest aircraft from all super heavies, it has 0 fatal crashes, or maybe the A340. But Airbus won 🥇

[@theepicfailgamer6317]

bs

[@theepicfailgamer6317]

obviously airbus bot

[@OumuamuaOumuamua]

Yeah but Boeing Aircraft has been around much longer and flew in less safer times, so ofc Aircraft from 2005 will be much safer ans have a cleaner record than an Aircraft that’s been flying since 1970!

[@orlovsskibet]

@@OumuamuaOumuamua did ya hear about the quite new 737-MAX ?

[@OumuamuaOumuamua]

@@orlovsskibet Yeah the Boeing 737 max would have been some of the safest aircraft on the planet if Boeing wasn’t greedy and lazy, the technology used on the Neos and Maxes are some of the best seen in the world still

[@dopepopeurban6129]

Personally I think a safety comparison should be focused on airlines, rather than aircraft types. For the most part, commercial aircraft do fly without any technical related incidents or accidents when properly crewed, maintained and operated. Most crashes can be attributed to the customer rather than the manufacturer, this applies to commercial, private and military aviation.

[@osasunaitor]

Then there is the Boeing 737MAX that disproves your theory. It has the worst safety record and it's purely because of technical reasons

[@dopepopeurban6129]

@@osasunaitor it actually doesn’t cuz there has only been 2 crashes compared to dozens or hundrets of the A320 or 737 family in total. You can play around with these numbers as you want to get the results you want, however that doesn’t say anything. And you do understand the term „for the most part“, right?

[@osasunaitor]

@@dopepopeurban6129 Yes I do understand, but what I'm saying is that you can't just dismiss the aircraft type in the fatality rate calculations, because the MAX proved that the type can have clear consequences in the prevalence of accidents.

[@dopepopeurban6129]

@@osasunaitor that’s exactly what I’m saying. If you only look at fatalities, the MAX is a very safe aircraft compared to the A320 and rest 737 family…………….

[@osasunaitor]

@@dopepopeurban6129 are you just counting raw fatalities without taking into account the years in service and number built? That's not how you measure any of this

[@a318snose4]

a320 family beats 737 for sure

[@evonneong9930]

But 737 started production in 1966 and a320 started 1988 so of course 737 has more crashes

[@a318snose4]

@@evonneong9930 737 has abnormally more crashes than an average aircraft,and yeah i agree its such as old pluss dangerous aircraft

[@muhammedhaider5506]

Great Information from simple flying

[@mcmemeous7811]

It's mad that the Tenerife disaster counted around 1/6 of the 747 fatalities

[@donaldstanfield8862]

So tragic

[@jelliott4]

SAAB 2000? Or does one total fatality sink it when divided over such a small fleet?

[@justinkoster4417]

how about small embaer have such a clean record good job on them

[@ericjones7769]

Good the 717s are some of the safest aeroplanes out there because i love the 717s

[@pauljensen5699]

I would be curious about the DC-10.

[@MSRTA_Productions]

Excellent question 🤔

[@dchan19362]

what about the 777? It technically it has no deaths against it due to design. The only incident was due to plane design was the BA flight (everyone survived). And most of the lost of lives, was either hijacking (MH370), shot down (MH17).

[@dexon777]

yeah and ba 777 had a problem because of its engines. Rolls Royce I think it were.

[@hewhohasnoidentity4377]

Asiana Airlines in SFO was not design related, and the deaths were by a tragic accident involving a ground vehicle.

[@stormy9643]

You're correct. The 777 is indeed one of the safest aircraft till this day. There are a few hull losses for the 777-200 and 777-300 versions, but the 777-300er is clean with no hull losses and minimal incidents. The 777-300er should definetely mentioned in this video for its prominence and safety record in the aviation industry. It is as safe, if not safer, than the a320 family and the the other aircraft mentioned.

[@zazzy8726]

@@stormy9643 emirates 777-300er crashed in OMDB but it’s not mechanical problem but due to pilot error

[@zazzy8726]

We almost had one of the most fatal crashes in history last year December when an Emirates flight bound for us almost crashed during takeoff

[@chinedumozurigbo2047]

I get to see a lot of planes since I work at the airport now

[@donaldstanfield8862]

Makes total sense!!

[@ronaldcuieii4775]

It's all about the dedication🙂.

[@billyponsonby]

Crunching data is hugely complicated before it becomes worthwhile

[@AviationCommercials]

Is there some reason McDonnell Douglas aircraft, including the 717 were left out? Makes all of this "data" useless.

[@CytrusF1]

777x for sure lol; so many testing hours and still no crash :P

[@Casc.]

isn't there only like 2 units produced tho

[@stormy9643]

@@Casc. There are around 6-7 units produced so far.

[@stevegiboney4493]

@@Casc. they fly over my house almost every day.

[@Casc.]

@@stevegiboney4493 you live in everett?

[@stevegiboney4493]

@@Casc. nearby, under the approach to Paine field.

[@FeRnAnDo1538]

It would be interesting if former aircraft manufacturers would be included: McDonnell Douglas and Lockheed Commercial.

[@ranapratapsingh3416]

Airbus 320 and Embraer seems to be the safest planes.

[@atilllathehun1212]

What about the Ilyushin Il86, about 100 built and no in service fatalities.

[@MarceloTrindade1]

Reading the comments already in place, we can see that this "report" has a lot of flaws. Important variables that should be taken into consideration were kept aside, such as: Airline pilot training history; Airline maintenance history; Pilot error; Maintenance error; Airplane cycles; Airplane mileage; Non-accident incidents caused by the airplane; ... Yes, this is not an easy task and I didn't say it was. As someone said, this subject should be presented in a "Long Haul by Simple Flying" video considering all the proper variables and weighted in a proper manner.

[@AmbientMorality]

I don't think this is even a possible analysis. Plane crashes often have several contributing factors and there's no objective way to say which is more important...

[@gpaull2]

Factors in seats and service time…not passenger miles flown? 🤔 Seems that these numbers can be skewed to say whatever you want depending on what is factored in.

[@hewhohasnoidentity4377]

Welcome to statistics! Almost any news story anywhere involving numbers is designed to guide public perception. The entire video seemed to illustrate that there are many methods to rank which aircraft types are the safest, at the end of the day, they are all safe.

[@AirportPlaneSpotting]

The only reason why the 747’s death toll is high is because of the Tenerife Airport Disaster, TWA800, Air India mid-air break up and Pan-Am 103 Lockerbie Bombing

[@dchan19362]

You also got to add Lockerbie and Air India.

[@AirportPlaneSpotting]

@@dchan19362 Added :)

[@peteconrad2077]

So what? The only reasons other aircraft stars are high is because they’ve had accidents. TWA800 was in Boeing 100%

[@unkokrispy]

Yeah... no. It should be by either flight cycles or flight hours, and excluding accidents where mechanical/structual items had no part in it (like the Teneriffe accident). May skew some numbers but by using the criteria you put forward, that's not accurate portrayal of an aircraft's safety record.

[@wendernathanmaas3094]

The Embraer 💙💙💙💙

[@LacoteCohen]

My thoughts, Airbus Rocks!

[@BagusWidyanto_HappyIn1997]

Dassault Mercure!

[@mtkoslowski]

The unusual ones that fly the least do.

[@chandrachurniyogi8394]

before making this video you should have stated the basis of your classification whether technical failures or pilot error but not both . . . if you had classified the safest aircraft based on technical snags only you will see a big difference in the tally shown in this video . . .

[@zamirmaduro2338]

Hmm but The A340 had hual lost the airfrance A340 at canada and Ibera A340 at Quito

[@aarondynamics1311]

No fatal accidents though

[@e020443]

It would be helpful to factor total miles flown per aircraft type into the equation. The B747 has been in the air over 50 years so will necessarily have had many more opportunities to meet with mishaps, relative to and A350 or B787.

[@BattousaiHBr]

it was factored in one of the graphs, it's what they called "service time".

[@stevenlemieux7220]

What are the safest airlines from 1970's? and please include the airlines that went bankrupt such as Pan Am, TWA, Eastern, and Braniff.

[@santamulligan676]

Thanks some help here

[@revanthpuranam8403]

The 777 is also a very safe plane . With only 5-6 hull loses

[@nerraD27]

All but that one BA flight were caused by human error (Asiana 214, MH370 (cause unknown but most likely human related) and MH17). I would say the 777 is the safest Boeing aircraft to exist.

[@Blank00]

@@nerraD27 737NG, 747-8

[@matthewsmith2787]

The planes themselves are rarely the cause of crashes, it’s the pilots who often mess up causing crashes

[@donaldstanfield8862]

🥵

[@RoderikvanReekum]

This is easy, The safest aircraft is the Fokker F130NG with zero reported incidents!

[@evonneong9930]

No

[@EuropeanRailfanAlt]

Airbus planes without fatal accidents: A220/C-Series, A318, A319, A319neo, A320neo, A321neo, A330neo, A340, A350, A380 Boeing planes without fatal accidents: B717, B787, B737-100/-600/-700/-900/MAX 7/9/10, B747-8, B757-300, B767-400ER, B777-300ER Bombardier planes without fatal accidents: CRJ-700, CRJ-900, CRJ-1000 Embraer planes without fatal accidents: ERJ-135, ERJ-140, ERJ-145, E170, E175, E190-E2, E195, E195-E2

[@r.k862]

Where did you get the info from?

[@kreelaban3420]

What about fatalities per passenger mile ? Get to 'The Real Story' as Paul Harvey used to say.

[@AmbientMorality]

i think that metric favors widebodies heavily (though this isn't great either and there's probably no way to do it perfectly)

[@ouuuaburger2093]

0:04 Not for Boeing

[@alexnutcasio936]

It’s all relative to how often and how far? Take off and landings ( cycles) and number of passengers flown. Weather versus human cause.

[@markosemene376]

Perhaps too technologies and it's malfunctioning.

[@nicoduck]

I think the statistic is flawed and worthless until it takes into account how many passenger-miles are flown with a particular aircraft.

[@elcarmi]

By far the safest ever, the DC-10.

[@worldofz00]

deHavilland Comet.

[@aweligibadivine4385]

Dc 10 🧐

[@parjanyamevada9297]

What about boeing 777s?

[@jatoboi4777]

Imagine the tu 154

[@RoBert-ix6ev]

I'm not even at the first minute, and this comparison failed itself.

[@ItsBlueberryAVIATION]

I would say The 737-900

[@oxcart4172]

It's only a matter of time before we have single engined ETOPS airliners because the airlines aren't happy with the millions they make every year

[@Velocity8842]

The A340 real safe

[@bossfight6125]

Maybe 777: these are caused by human error, MH17 was not caused by mechanical failure and MH370, no one knows whether it crashed or not. OZ214 was caused by Pilot Error and UAE 521 was caused by wind sheer from landing. Also 747-400: Despite hull losses, barely any fatalities, only notable 747-400 crash is SIA 006

[@wasted-blaster.]

"Safety is the manufacturers top priority".....unless your boeing of course in which case profits are top priority.

[@danielmeador1991]

Or airbus where paint problems are the priority

[@wasted-blaster.]

@@danielmeador1991 yes there is that....

[@danielmeador1991]

@@wasted-blaster. we need Joe Sutter back

[@roverkootnl1854]

In mij opinion is Airbus the safest second place embrear third place bombardier an the most dangerous western company is mcdonneldouglas

[@TheKatava]

You should only be counting mechanical failures i.e. the fault of the aircraft itself not hijacking intentional crashing etc. it’s not the planes fault

[@RanveerGupta-e6i]

You missed 777

[@johnmoloney5296]

You made this over complicated

[@theskyline1425]

Not the 737 MAX obviously...

[@epicmemerman2349]

it still has a long way to go

[@fqeagles21]

But the 737 800 of Ryanair has awesome safety records

[@fqeagles21]

@@epicmemerman2349 yeah I have high hopes

[@stevenholt1867]

BAC One Eleven safest ever built and the most robust.

[@dariansalih2194]

Oh well the 747 was cursed by design at some point. THE 747-100, 200 and 300 were really bad quality. There were many flights were the 747 just broke down mid flight

[@TheRuben_music]

Wrong. Do your research when it comes to how Airbus makes their planes...

[@peteconrad2077]

I can tell you it’s a far more professional production environment than Boeing. I’ve flown and delivered both and Airbus at far better made than Boeing.

[@TheRuben_music]

@@peteconrad2077 i agree

[@macaustine8838]

The Embriere air crafts are the safest

[@JohnSmith-qv3ll]

if its boeing I'm not going

[@evonneong9930]

If its airbus I'm not going

[@evonneong9930]

If its John Smith im not going

[@fotiskantis]

I think that most of the 747 crashes included the -200 Because the -400 is pretty clean excluding the Northwest airlines accident Same goes for the NG 737 A320 family and 777 Plus the most fatal accident of the 747 was the Tenerife disaster and JAL 123

[@RaulRodriguez-wr8lq]

Correct,it's not the aircraft, but a lot has to do,whether, mechanical problems, etc.hope man made accident due to mental health don't contribute to this problem.

[@4evertrue830]

Such a silly analysis of the whole issue about certain particular aircraft safety. Many factors are missing in this assesment...

[@AnifatOdekunle]

Qatar airways is one of the safests and bests airways i know

[@EAGSAviationYT]

no one's gonna mention the popular widely used 77W which has no hull loss?it's a honourable mention as well IMHO, especially since it's around since 2004

[@peteconrad2077]

77W what aircraft is that? Don’t mean Boeing 777?

[@EAGSAviationYT]

@@peteconrad2077 777-300er

[@King_BrewSquad]

Airbus : 🗿

[@absthewonderdog]

I think a lot of that data is ultimately useless and doesn't tell any worthwhile, true stories.

[@dexon777]

777 doing good until Asiana, Malaysia planes shotdown and missing. British 777 no fatality. 777 accidents all human error.

[@jimshaw899]

Basically, this shows that it is very difficult to present meaningful statistics when there are too many variables and not enough instances. Any conclusion you draw will be unacceptably wrong in general. "Not all liars are statisticians, but all statisticians are liars."

[@shabirhussain4719]

747

[@donaldstanfield8862]

Here comes the hate...3, 2, 1 💥💨

[@chromebomb]

No one has ever died on an A340

[@henrywm1451]

A380 got to be the safest airliner.

[@evonneong9930]

👎

[@EdOeuna]

Super safe because most of the are either parked up or retired already.

[@eddiev2257]

Despite Boeing's recent bad rep I still love and trust 777 the most, it always feels like a Bentley in the air

[@Dave_Sisson]

I suspect you have not been unfortunate enough to fly cattle class on a B777. 10 seats across gives it the narrowest seats on any widebody and if you want to keep the car analogy, it feels more like an overcrowded bus than a Bentley. But I've never flown business or first class on a B777 and I have no doubt that those seats are quite nice.

[@AceYoPro]

@@Dave_Sisson Thats literally what every widebody feels like nowadays in economy. My exception being the 767, the 2-4-2 configuration is awesome lol.

[@Incidental104]

When it goes to safety Airbus beats Boeing by a mile especially in medium haul aircraft

[@danielmeador1991]

Ahhhhh but what manufacturer has been around longer yea Boeing so it makes sense that they have seen more fatalities then overrated airbus

[@a318snose4]

@@danielmeador1991 ahh guess who created lots of broken planes,boing,any broken airbus planes??

[@danielmeador1991]

@@a318snose4 well let’s see tte a320 had flyby wire problems they crashed an a340 before delivery a a330 crashed in the Atlantic and a a380 had a major engine failure so yes airbus has it fair share of issues too fanboy

[@danielmeador1991]

@Levi ahhh but it’s had crashes never said it had fatalities and why compare it to the 747 when over a 1,000 more 746 have been made compared to a few hundred a340s it would make sense that the 747 has been in more incidents

[@tomstravels520]

@@danielmeador1991 A320 had fly by wire problems? Don't tell me you're one of those people who think it caused the crash of AF296. Pilot error all the way, too low, too slow, left it too late to save it. Plane was mechanically sound. And why are you blaming airbus for an engine failure?

[@theharper1]

Shouldn't the number of flying miles be taken into account? The 747 is incredibly safe if you take into account the cumulative distance travelled.

[@howumighthaveanimatedthat2159]

But the two max crashes are results from negligence of the airlines

[@itsbiancabitch1401]

No it wasn’t negligence of the airlines it was BOEING !!!

[@aarondynamics1311]

No they weren't, in fact Lion Air and Ethiopian Airlines were among the airlines that pushed for pilot training for MCAS but Boeing refused. The crashes were 100% on Boeing and the FAA

[@Coopergaming13]

Uh CRJ 700 and 900 are the safest

[@Pomelu]

the dc-10 ;)

[@delta_cosmic]

737max: why m I not there?

[@paulinejackson5861]

Biased study surely! Airbus planes are more dangerous to fly than Boeing due to the poor engineering.

[@tomstravels520]

Lol seriously? Poor engineering in terms of what? And how is it biased when it is a FACT that thew A350, A380, A340, A320Neo family and A330Neo have never had a fatal crash yet the 737 Max had 2. You really want to talk about bad engineering with the 737 Max? And remind me why the 787 hasn't had any deliveries for several months now?

[@peteconrad2077]

You’re clueless. Airbus are better designed and better built than Boeing. It’s BMW vs GM.