WHICH AMPERO IS BETTER?

[@michaelbusuttil363]

Got the Ampero Mini in Vanilla. Love it. The amp and cab sims soung great to me.

[@flashingit]

I brought my Ampero II stage about a month ago. Awesome gear at a great price.

[@ashleymorton9623]

Bought

[@LegendarySnomann]

The stage 2 is the first multi effect unit that don’t make me think “ill just take my pedalboard because it’s easier” I love it so far

[@CL_Audio_Tuning]

I wonder if you set the 1st preset identically in all 3 devices, THEN, what would the difference be!? Using the exact same effects, settings, and amp, etc.

[@iloveitall]

The video we have been waiting for. Thank you!

[@JTB--]

I've had the Stage II since right when it came out and it's excellent. I have a PRS Custom Piezo and go into Both Inputs to get really creative. Besides sounding good, I appreciate the Mic ability on the unit, the Looper AND Drum Machine. The Stage II really offers the Kitchen Sink

[@bennyhill1105]

I wish someone would do a video for the Mic/Guitar

[@mangoesDB]

@@bennyhill1105 I have the stage and use it for guitar and mic. Mic sounds great

[@jordanprysmiki5361]

My ampero stomp 2 sounds amazing and has me playing more guitar in general. I get by without scenes. It's the best bang for your buck full stop.

[@ManuSDP]

Have had the OG Ampero for about 5 years now. Did and still do overseas or international gigs/tours with it and it holds up. Necessary to couple it with a good poweramp to use it with a cab and it never let me down. Maybe one day I will upgrade, but I’m happy with the old boy

[@jaialaiwarrior]

Can you just use a traditional head as the power amp into the amp's FX return?

[@ManuSDP]

@@jaialaiwarrior yessir

[@johngudgeon7454]

The Ampero Stomp II has just had a firmware upgrade so the unit now offers scenes (Same as the Stage but not as many) Hotone has also drastically altered the GUI. I'm not sure whether that's an improvement or not as I have yet to go through the Firmware update. (They always make me nervous) I will say that I bought and sold the full fat Helix twice before finally deciding that the Stomp II was much easier to drive at a fraction of the cost...

[@joutynathan4168]

I like my ampero mini ! I sometimes use it for cleans, but I now primarily use it as a multi-effect, or as my amp when I go on vacation

[@lucianomateus351]

I like Mine too. It's Very usefull to insert any effect at the pedalboard (guitar and also Bass).

[@kennethdarlington]

My understanding before watching the video based on my research: Stomp mini - basically a regular Hotone Ampero in the formfactor of shrinked Ampero Stomp. Ampero Stomp - top of the Ampero current lineup in terms of sound. Better (than regular Ampero and Stomp mini) modeling, better IR etc. Ampero Stage - basically Ampero Stomp with extended IO, more knobs etc.

[@gabrielrangel956]

Stage has scenes, wireless capabilities, a drum machine and some added on vocal effects

[@RafaelSanchez-s3f]

@@gabrielrangel956 but no more DSP and the cab suite is not as tweakable as the line 6 stomp

[@gabrielrangel956]

@@RafaelSanchez-s3f it has much more DSP than the HX Stomp tho and the cab problem can be easily fixed by using an IR. For me, the biggest advantage the HX Stomp has over the Ampero Stage/Stomp are the pitch/octave/harmony effects Scenes and the drum machine have been added to the Ampero Stomp as of the lastest patch, which was last week

[@BezuMusician]

@@gabrielrangel956 So is it worth selling off the HX Stomp and buying the Ampero II Stage in your view just for home playing and practice? I don't play live. :)

[@stefandiedrich878]

@@gabrielrangel956 The Stomp now has scenes too. There has been a firmware update! Regards

[@CharLessMajor7Music]

I dont know with other models but I have the mini and what I don’t like about it is if you want to use it just a multi-fx and let’s say it’s bypassed or not engaged, the clean signal is kinda slightly tweaked EQ wise, going thru this unit makes the low end of your clean signal lesser. It’s not transparent when bypassed. It’s not drastic but it’s a thing to consider.

[@joebowbeer]

How are you bypassing? Tuner in bypass mode is a clean bypass, right?

[@CharLessMajor7Music]

@@joebowbeer i turn off everything, cabs, amps, fx, everything inside the ampero mini.

[@joebowbeer]

@@CharLessMajor7Music AFAICT, Tuner in Bypass mode is clean.

[@CharLessMajor7Music]

@@joebowbeer yea but in live scenario where your ampero mini is on stand by for modulation fx use, putting it on tuner mode isn’t proper for fx switching. Anyway, it’s going to be clean but there is a slight low frequency scoop that I’m hearing as soon as you plug anything to ampero mini.

[@riswandakafa9750]

@@CharLessMajor7MusicI thought this thing, ideally, is used as an always on pedal..

[@Obssy]

Can you please review the Ampero II that was just launched? Please showcase the Tone Capture feature and the vocal effects. Thank you, love the channel ❤

[@Civic.]

Until this video I was confused why they would still sell the old one but seeing the size in this video in comparison, it makes me wonder what it's like as just an effects modeller if you don't need amp modelling? It seems like a great form factor and price for that kind of thing if the effects sound good.

[@dominicgibson9529]

I assume you can ditch the amps so you can use it as a mini multi-effects unit, which is how I am thinking of using this.

[@TheFrozenDesert]

That's how I use it. One Tonex into the input. A second Tonex into the F/X return. Totally independent F/X chains. Enjoy.

[@fritsvanzanten3573]

The cheapo/old one comes in 70th anniversary edition for 179 WITH foot thingy.

[@Dark0ne2099]

No cab mode is not on the helix but... It had extensive outputs and you can just turn the cab off anyway :)

[@Renato_Cara]

Very tasty riffs in the outro song. Nice video. I just wished you tested more the dynamic of the volume with some crunch gain settings. How it cleans out in lower volumes. This is the thing that for me differentiate good modellers from bad ones.

[@Proganaut1989]

Side note Ampero II stomp also does an input two for an acoustic if you want or a separate guitarist

[@joellebrodeur1015]

I just got the Mini over the weekend to try out. For $170 from AliExpress, why not. Had the Mooer (hated it), Nux MG30 (too much shit to edit), Zoom G6 (too cumbersome) and G2x Four (not great and limited DSP and effects). I'm hoping I don't continue the string of gear that I keep flipping. I am curious about the Stage version.

[@coppulor6500]

do you still have it/like it?

[@vincentjackson3472]

Great video my friend! Also whata that guitar? Looks and sounds great. I just bought the stage II, cant wait for it to arrive!

[@JS-vz4je]

great demo.. you played a great and fitting variety to each tone

[@nuaz55]

Is there a way to eliminate the bypass feature on the stomp ii. If you double tap any of the three buttons on the bottom. the unit goes into bypass which i find very frustrating

[@CanaldoOTA]

Now we just need an huge profiles database like Kemper/Tonex. Do you think that effects are on par with Kemper?

[@О.Ш-ь1щ]

Why do you have cuts on the parts with ampero mini? does it have the lag when you switch the presets?

[@GatusVadios]

Are the 100 drum patterns equal for all models?

[@s2apples207]

Certyainly more confused than before, but for a positive reason :D, thanks for the video. Do you have any feedback on using ampero stage for voice?

[@kaindog1007]

I have the Stomp 2 and added the Switch for $41 Aussie. So for not much money it’s upgraded to 5 switching options.

[@elbownesdam4024]

Can I use it as interface to use my GarageBand? Via usb to the monitors ,,,😂 actually a serious question 😮

[@werner77wda]

26:30 We should do a blind test to clear that up.

[@joebowbeer]

Ampero Mini sounds great in a low-power, intuitive, small form-factor pedal. I use a Xsonic AirSTEP (USB MIDI host) and an expression pedal for full control.

[@Tone-Quest]

HP, excellent video…as always. I enjoy the super detailed comparison. If the opportunity should ever present itself, I’d love to know your thoughts on the Valeton GP-200. I believe the software and/or sounds are licensed from Hotone.

[@sampereira1267]

Hi, is anyone using this with vocals? What affects can you use and how does it sound? I can’t find a list anywhere. Thanks a lot!

[@ΘανάσηςΔημητρίου-ξ8χ]

for violin the ampero mini effects, octave, chorus, delay, repeat and equalizer are good?

[@johngudgeon7454]

Aand, I'll stick with the Stomp as I have external pre-amp/drive pedals before it and alternative external delays in the loops and afterwards. Pedalboard real estate is expensive.

[@manologomez4345]

Hello, can you edit preamp and power amp separately? I want to use ampero mini like DI for a victory preamp.

[@christoffertornquist3373]

is the stage worth it just for home recording? Thing will just sit on a desk. Also comparing this with a HX stomp. I know there might not be a right answer but just trying to gather as much information before any purchase.

[@ensoniq2k]

I would've loved to buy an Ampero Mini, but at the price Thomann is offering the 70th Aniversary Ampero Silver I just had to buy two. One for gigs and one for practicing at home. Both together are still cheaper than the Zoom G9.2tt I bought 15 years ago. Too bad the Line 6 Pod is still stuck in 2007 with no update.

[@kellecetraro4807]

This was a great video ✨🙏🏼🤘🏼

[@soundafterfall]

How do you get the custom title ? When i rename it, I only see "P01-1" and my title is small under it

[@ymelfilm]

Can you press any of these Chinese companies to make a multi effect that has a decent 1 button looper pedal block that we can dedicate to any footswitches? And have at least 2-3 minutes recording time. I have the Mini and the Stage. I wrote several letters to Hotone. They don;t give a shite on this request, though it would make them outstanding among their peers and finally, there would be a multi effect on the market that do the job. The last could do it was the Zoom 3Gn , 5Gn pedals. then, a Flyrig kind stuff the Cube Sugar

[@jcugnoni]

I own the OG Ampero since a few years and Hotone did a great job (albeit a bit slow) to push updates (feature added + new amps etc). The sound quality is still really good with a good IR of your choice. The cab modeling is not as good as the Ampero Gen 2 but remains ok. Running the Ampero into a good power amp make it sound pretty close to the real deal. I did quite a bit of AB tests with Synergy (Friedman, SLO, Engl, IIcp) and other DIY tube preamps (Bogner XTC) and the Amperon sounds 99% there (albeit with slightly different EQ settings than the original amp). Biggest drawback: the presets are way to wet. My advice for this unit are 1. Load a couple of IR that you like. Adapt the Global EQ if needed. 2. Don't use the presets, start from a simple Amp + Cab/IR setup and add FX progressivelly. (This applies to most modelers by the way...)

[@estuaic1]

Except for the IR stuff, this is the same advice I got for every multi fx since my zoom 3030. EVERY manufacturer go for wow tones rather than useable I guess. Biggest drawback: the presets are way to wet. My advice for this unit are 1. Load a couple of IR that you like. Adapt the Global EQ if needed. 2. Don't use the presets, start from a simple Amp + Cab/IR setup and add FX progressivelly. (This applies to most modelers by the way...)

[@Matvey_Arkhipov]

Gentlemen, I need your opinions. I have ampero one, it works well for me. But... Should I upgrade to next generation of ampero?

[@MauricioGarcia-mk5bz]

Real question…..would you go out on stage with this unit? If you are touring would you consider this as your main unit???

[@uweborsch1946]

Not at all.

[@hemordroidnz7908]

Ive gigged with the mini and had zero issues. Sounded great stereo out to 2 amps , plenty of head room

[@coppulor6500]

@@uweborsch1946 why not?

[@patrickpierson6079]

Hi Super Video🤘👍🎸 Ich persönlich würde immer gerne wissen wie groß die Pause beim Presetwechsel ist. Gerne wenn es keine snapshots gibt. Cool wäre es wenn du einfach einen Akkord hälst und dann Mal so ein paar Presets rauf und runter schaltet... Aber gut. Bin anscheinend der einzige den das interessiert. Finde ich live halt irre wichtig. Prinzipiell finde ich sehr geil wir du immer Mal kurz ein Preset anspielst und dann sofort den richtigen Stil dafür parat hast und entsprechende Licks spielst. Richtig cool. 👍🤘🎸

[@equinoxpete]

I actually thought the Mini had better sounding presets. Nice playing. That's the one that I went with. Really great demo with the presets.

[@emach07]

We're so damned spoiled these days lolol. You got people paying $200 for this mini thing and bitching because it doesn't do this or that. Meanwhile in a land not far far away you have people paying $300 plus for a fricking Reverb pedal. Cuz it's analog 😵‍💫 not knocking that, js... What a time to be alive 🤩 Fantastic video!!!

[@whazpoppin]

I got the 2 stomp for over a year and i love it. I‘ve tried the hx Stomp but the ui is an absolute nightmare ✌🏼

[@chiquinhohoogerdijk1337]

im thinking of buying the ampero stomp. but i need 2 external pedals in the fx chain. do you know if you can connect 2 pedals using trs to 2 ts cabbles to route 2 pedals in the fx loop? i see in the manual tha you can choose l in and r in separately.

[@chiquinhohoogerdijk1337]

love your videos btw they helped me alot in the past

[@krailanuar]

Different processor n stage best one if comparison with my Hotone Ampero One

[@VMinoda]

got a mini from Thomann for 160 on a sale a couple of months ago. for this price it is unbeatable

[@huanton2many]

today I tried a 1976 Fender bassman. these are nice digital toys but will never replace the real stuff. After a long time I played that amp and could not stop smiling

[@powerboon2k]

We all have tube amps...this is not that.

[@hajienav]

Hi, Great video, thanks! Thomann now sell the silver addition of the Ampero for 179 Euro. Would you say it is a good alternative to the mini, for those of us on a limited budget?

[@EytschPi42]

same thing as the mini, but bigger

[@ernest6831]

Mini doesnt have on/off switch. For me that is a big difference :) Really.

[@john_enx]

Somewhere I read it has like 6-7ms latency and it stooped me from buying it.

[@ernest6831]

@@john_enx not true. Buy the bigger one - its a bargain

[@bassman12]

Kannst du sagen wie gut das stage II für Bass ist?

[@Diijkstra]

what I like about this is it's so minimalistic.

[@LofiandChilloutMusic]

Awesome presentation , entertaining , informative and amusing

[@samsara107]

I got my Ampero Mini from star music in France. 199 and free shipping to Germany, or maybe 5€ shipping, I'm not sure. But definitely cheaper than Thomam and all colors available.

[@Worlds_Worst_Guitarist]

I had the first AMpero (80?) here and found it too boxy sounding, Had the Ampero Stomp here, liked it but without external IRs i found it to brittle in many ways. The new Ampero Stage: that is a whole different thing, great sounds from the get go. And they are even getting better using External IRs (or the included Celestion ones). Not to mention the Layout and usability which is a dream. The Stage will stay with me for the next years for sure! Needed to go (back) was for example NUX MG30 + 400, NUX Trident (worst i've ever heard!), ToneX, Flamma FX200, Valeton GP200, Kemper Player, Boss GX100, Boss GT1000, Headrush Gigboard + Prime and so on and on.................................

[@davidjeremiahb.salvacion1360]

Hello having thoughts on whether to buy the ampero mini, nux mg-30 or valeton gp-200. Which do you think is best considering that I'm going to build on it with external drives and that i only care most for the sound quality?

[@Worlds_Worst_Guitarist]

@@davidjeremiahb.salvacion1360 Invest in the Ampero Stage! If not take the GP200.

[@steveclark9934]

Well after today's major update it looks like this topic will have to be Revisited already❤😂

[@svenandresen6494]

i would love if you do a review about the St. Rock Amperium .... please please please :)

[@EytschPi42]

tell them that

[@svenandresen6494]

@@EytschPi42 i did but nothing happens 😮‍💨

[@wujBat]

Great comparison!

[@joelleklokkers4124]

How is the latency on these things. I have had a Headrush MX-5 once and the latency was terrible.

[@joellebrodeur1015]

Oof... Really? I heard other things about them having issues.

[@joelleklokkers4124]

@@joellebrodeur1015I have had more of those amp modelers. They all sound thin over studio-speakers or do have a terrible latency.

[@peterschermers]

PLEASE BE AWARE BEFORE BUYING A HOTONE AMPERO II STAGE: 1. MIDI OUT is not working (yet). I contacted Hotone about this but they can't confirm if this 'feature' will be fixed anywhere in 2024. 2. You cannot RENAME Scenes to 'Intro', 'Chorus' etc. It will just be 'Scene 1', 'Scene 2', etc. Just so you know. Thanks for your videos Henning 👌🏻👌🏻

[@markdouglas8073]

WHAT? If MIDI Out (Thru) does not work, that is a major flaw). It does work on my Ampero II Stomp.

[@peterschermers]

@@markdouglas8073 Actually, MIDI Thru does work. I’m referring to sending MIDI CC to other pedals, which you can’t. So it’s Thru only (even though the MIDI port says it’s Out / Thru)

[@ESP77769]

Isn't Valeton the same company as HoTone, with the exact same effects? And the Valeton Valeton GP-200LT has way more features for $30 more than the Ampero Mini!!

[@charliecordoba943]

No del todo, ademas si investigas bien es mejor la calidad de los amps del mini.

[@mercho_music]

the ampero stomp would be perfect if it had an XLR output

[@marcoheerema540]

How to use the Ampero line in a bandsetup? All I see is the programming part of the Ampero and... For sure... I like to be the musician instead of a programmer

[@Falestal]

Nice vid. But.. It would've made more sense choosing the "same" sound for comparison between the models instead of just the first preset. Instead of showing the first sound you're presented with... unless they were the same?😮 Whatever. Great video. Thanks

[@mars6433]

I need the Stage to replace my RP360XP. Here's my address .....

[@StudioChimiel]

The left one is the best one.

[@EytschPi42]

clearly!

[@PooNinja]

Facts!

[@strumminronin]

I snagged an OG Ampero in PINK when Thomann was selling them a fair bit less than the normal black version. Though it was a bit over budget, I thought, it's a deal still because it's cheaper than the black OG. It's a bit big for my cup of tea, granted it was a rebound reaction after a Nux MG ___ was DOA. Anyhow, the pink Ampero works fine for me. It sounds not entirely perfect but neither is my playing by a very long shot. It can do way more than I can ask of it, but a simpler unit sounds even more fake, so trading it makes zero sense. It had better "stay alive" so I don't have to look into yet more new tech! I actually am still very fond of tubes/ valves! Apartment living however dictates usage of headphones, hence the Ampero. Should have waited for THAT Dream '65!

[@PooNinja]

5:19 I’m also externally triggered . What a wonderful world for guitarists.

[@vaughnwebbermusic]

The ii Stage sounds better to me too

[@Supermansdead81]

Stomp for me!

[@fritsvanzanten3573]

Is it me or do you sound different in this video?

[@fraenkiboii]

The best is the one from Neural-DSP 🤪😇

[@PXR5-PXR5]

So?

[@fraenkiboii]

@@PXR5-PXR5 So, that’s the best Ampero.

[@DANTHETUBEMAN]

If you can't use that 3 bottom stomp,, your not a Guitar 🎸 player 😅😂

[@TheStinkyDinkyBand]

I thought that was a real dog until they switched views

[@bruceharding4986]

The foot switches are too close together !!!! Pedal builders stop doing this.

[@EytschPi42]

or just have smaller feet?

[@PooNinja]

@@EytschPi42foot binding wrap patterns available upon request. Shrink your feet to convenient bite sized bundles. ⚠️Ability to walk without assistance may be compromised

[@pskim1282]

I feel the same way. Id like to remove 2nd and 4th button to use only 1 3 5

[@damonwalton5153]

Wear cowboy boots...

[@LajosJunghaus]

Flanger Things 😅

[@leondantas]

As I posted on the A2Stage review, Hotone has a major problem with their terrible support. They promise a lot of features on future updates. Those "future updates" were never delivered. Ampero II Stomp are waiting for scenes and gapless transitions effects for more than an year now. The terrible stomp mode switch that terrifies everybody that use the unit to play live are also a promised fix. Both Ampero 2 units share the same DSP power but Hotone support was really bad and never delivered what is being promised.

[@macmusica]

Why no bloody VST included oh ffs!!! No WDM Drriver????? Jesus

[@newrockorder]

it sounds very spitz to me.

[@davidfaustino4476]

They all have unacceptable latency so none of them.

[@pskim1282]

If you use IR instead of cab sim, latency won't matter.

[@Worlds_Worst_Guitarist]

Wow............................. i honestly don't feel any Latency on the Ampero Stage!

[@estuaic1]

Can you not stand any latency? From testing I seen on that wee Italian chap's channel, the Stage compares really well to the best out there

[@uweborsch1946]

One thing I learned in life: If the price is mentioned more than once, the gear will not be satisfying more than a few weeks.