Which Board Wipes are Worth It? | A Guide to Mass Removal in Commander

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In this video, we're discussing everything you need to know about board wipes: what they are, how many to play, the best board wipes in commander, and even the worst board wipes in commander! Strap in for an informative journey about everyone's favorite mass removal spells in edh!

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@condrecomics
@condrecomics 3 жыл бұрын
Why would you ever want to wipe the board when you have flooded it with the zombies from Grave Titan?
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 3 жыл бұрын
We can’t live with that card doing anything so we wipe
@markp7262
@markp7262 3 жыл бұрын
Because Zombies don't fly.
@whoissyx
@whoissyx 3 жыл бұрын
Im so glad there are other people out there who recognize how good Hour of Revelation is
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 3 жыл бұрын
It's super efficient
@kingginger3335
@kingginger3335 3 жыл бұрын
Its fantastic. You're never gonna cast a board wipe without 10 permanents on the board. You probably don't even have the 3 white mana without their being 10 total permanents on the entire battlefield lol
@Cloghog
@Cloghog 3 жыл бұрын
@@kingginger3335 and even if you need to it's still only six Mana for each nonland permanent
@vitorroberto8694
@vitorroberto8694 3 жыл бұрын
Evert white deck should use it
@selkokieli843
@selkokieli843 3 жыл бұрын
It's very efficient in what it does but I don't think I would ever play this. it's particularly good in a durdly white based control deck that is not very dependent on mana rocks and enchantments, but I enjoy playing to the board too much myself with all the permanent types. I'm not a fan of blowing up all the mana rocks from non-green decks either. I'd rather encourage playing non-green.
@Xonides
@Xonides 3 жыл бұрын
Y’all have made my commute much, much easier.
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 3 жыл бұрын
So glad to hear that church!
@leadbone1
@leadbone1 3 жыл бұрын
Liking before watching cause you always come through with the quality content!
@adamugrinow1926
@adamugrinow1926 3 жыл бұрын
I do the same and couldn’t agree more!
@Yontanian
@Yontanian 3 жыл бұрын
Same.
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 3 жыл бұрын
You three are awesome, thanks for supporting us :D
@leadbone1
@leadbone1 3 жыл бұрын
@@NitpickingNerds I will for sure use your link for TCG player I’m gonna be picking up some upgrades later this week. Thanks for the work you guys put in!
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 3 жыл бұрын
Omg that’s fantastic to hear! It really does help support the channel and we are very appreciative ❤️
@charleswarbington2216
@charleswarbington2216 3 жыл бұрын
You guys have seriously improved since i first started watching. You spark interesting discussions and i'm here for it. Keep it up guys.
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a ton! We have improved like a million percent
@Medium_Mac
@Medium_Mac 3 жыл бұрын
One of my favorites for certain decks is Dusk//Dawn; its almost a one-sided board wipe, and then later it's card advantage! 6 mana Elspeth is good in that way too
@noisystrings5303
@noisystrings5303 3 жыл бұрын
Man, no love for Slaughter the Strong? 3 mana, gets rid of the biggest threats most of the time, makes token and voltron decks cry, and it even gets around indestructible. I think it's great.
@dallinsmith2308
@dallinsmith2308 2 жыл бұрын
I know right?! I got one form somewhere, and after reading the text correctly i dont know why you wouldn't ever use it...except against Tergrid
@yumyumeatemup
@yumyumeatemup 3 жыл бұрын
Im really digging Doomskar from kaldhiem right now. Playing a board wipe to the field as early as turn 2 that cant be interacted with? Now it just sits there for the rest of the game gnawing away at your opponents psyche to what it actually is. LOL Is the game going well for you? Ok just leave it. Is the game slipping away from you? Ok activate it.
@everythingisbizzaaaaaro3694
@everythingisbizzaaaaaro3694 3 жыл бұрын
People are gonna miss Foretell once it's gone.
@EntheogenShaman
@EntheogenShaman 3 жыл бұрын
Foretell is a massively underrated mechanic
@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299
@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299 3 жыл бұрын
I love Dream Devourer, all my non-land spells like boardwipes have Foretell and if they kill Devourer I can still cast my foretold spells= win win :P
@EntheogenShaman
@EntheogenShaman 3 жыл бұрын
@@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299 yeah I've been thinking about tossing him into my Blim deck because a lot of the stuff is expensive and janky, I'd even call him pseudo-ramp
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 3 жыл бұрын
We left doomskar off because we haven’t tested it or seen it yet.
@jakeaw84
@jakeaw84 3 жыл бұрын
So glad you put in Last One Standing, love that card!
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 3 жыл бұрын
Super fun and flavorful!
@blackhorizon40k81
@blackhorizon40k81 3 жыл бұрын
As always, gentlemen, keep up the great work. Also, may I just add... it's a problem when you find yourself scrambling to "add to cart" all the cards that Beezy is going off about "being terrible" just because you've never seen or played them... yeah. you know you do it too...
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 3 жыл бұрын
Don’t listen to Beezy lol 😂
@EDHCoffee
@EDHCoffee 3 жыл бұрын
YAAAAAAAS new content. Been enjoying the shorts.
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! We're going to continue them
@adamugrinow1926
@adamugrinow1926 3 жыл бұрын
Love the daily content! Keep up the good work.
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 3 жыл бұрын
It's a good look for us I think
@returnoftheduelist9790
@returnoftheduelist9790 3 жыл бұрын
Flood of tears is really good when you can get a free permanent into play after it and especially if your behind
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 3 жыл бұрын
Not a card we have ever played but seems good.
@jakeapplegate6642
@jakeapplegate6642 3 жыл бұрын
I recently added it to my jhoira deck. Hasn’t come up in play yet but I have high hopes.
@filipzoric4697
@filipzoric4697 3 жыл бұрын
Droping Koma back on empty board is brutal ;)
@audiophage0
@audiophage0 3 жыл бұрын
Time Wipe too!
@angrywizard3199
@angrywizard3199 3 жыл бұрын
I used to use it on this weird Yarok standard thing I had going. The deck's rotated now but it was fun dropping Yarok back to reset for my next turn of ETB triggers
@arthurvandenbergh1881
@arthurvandenbergh1881 3 жыл бұрын
“Good boardwipes cost between 3 and 5 mana” *starts looking nervously at my 3 copies of austere command that are in most of my white decks* Edit: a couple of minutes in and you gave austere command a compliment, I don’t have to question my card evaluation abilities luckily 😅
@faerie7dragon
@faerie7dragon 3 жыл бұрын
Austere Command is like a pet card of mine, it improves a lot if your playgroup is value based, vs faster decks it can sadly fall short.
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 3 жыл бұрын
Austere command is good
@kirkheisterkamp6988
@kirkheisterkamp6988 3 жыл бұрын
Something that is interesting to me is that you'd think black would be close to white in number of middle ground board sweepers (the worse ones that don't compare to the top of your lists), but black isn't even remotely close. Like in the 5 Mana slot for white you have Fumigate, Winds of Rath, End Hostilities, Rout, and Slash the Ranks. At least 5 options at that CMC. What does black have in comparison? Crux of fate. That's it. Maybe Consume the Meek if you count that? The difference is one I find very interesting. Although diving into color differences is always going to get complicated.
@RazgrizAce67
@RazgrizAce67 3 жыл бұрын
Completely agree on the switching out 4-mana, creatures only wipes. I had already done that for my decks before you said that here. One-two extra mana is well worth extra synergy.
@canadianham
@canadianham 3 жыл бұрын
Great episode guys. Really loving the content these days. I know its new but I realized you didn't talk about doomskar. Having the foretell makes its alot stronger than it looks.
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 3 жыл бұрын
We actually mention it twice, not as it's own segment, but we put it on par with the Day of Judgment variants
@canadianham
@canadianham 3 жыл бұрын
@@NitpickingNerds oh totally gapped out on that! My bad!
@firebird504
@firebird504 3 жыл бұрын
Channel has come a long way love it
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 3 жыл бұрын
How is life?
@firebird504
@firebird504 3 жыл бұрын
@@NitpickingNerds making a mono colored deck for every color. Buying a box of japanese war every month and just graduated hbu?
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 3 жыл бұрын
@@firebird504 well making millions on KZbin lol
@firebird504
@firebird504 3 жыл бұрын
@@NitpickingNerds eventually you will be ;)
@1coolnika133
@1coolnika133 3 жыл бұрын
You guys are growing on me..nice! keep up the good work
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 3 жыл бұрын
Like a fungus
@wtficantfindagoodnam
@wtficantfindagoodnam 3 жыл бұрын
Love you guys' content. Great video as always. One card I would also like to put up as a honourable mention for best board wipe would be "Time Wipe". Yes it's 5 mana, yes it's sorcery speed, yes it hits only creatures, but it very often saves you from having to pay extra commander tax by bouncing your commander or reuse ETBs or simply just saving your best creature. I am a big fan of this card and I can honestly say it has over-performed in my experience. Also, I completely agree with Mr. Cherries about Merciless Eviction. It would be infinitely better if it was 1 less mana.
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 3 жыл бұрын
We love you too
@infamous0ne789
@infamous0ne789 3 жыл бұрын
Regarding Nev's disk - it has a home in decks that can abuse it with Darksteel forge. Decks like Kozilek the great distortion. It also shines in mono red and mono black decks where you absolutely need to remove an enchantment.
@TenshiArix
@TenshiArix 3 жыл бұрын
Agree with a lot of this except for Cleansing Nova, I think this card is great particularly in decks that are somewhat creature heavy Having the flexibility to destroy all artifacts and enchantments or creatures when you are behind is really good and its decently costed at 5 mana, it's similar to Austere command and Merciless Eviction but 1 less mana
@averygrady1192
@averygrady1192 3 жыл бұрын
Checkout "Chandra's Ignition". I play it in my Syr Gwyn deck and try to give her lifelink or deathtouch first. Becomes a 5 mana game ending board wipe. Especially when she is loaded up with equipments!
@luketargett2233
@luketargett2233 3 жыл бұрын
Great stuff as per!
@neillaw
@neillaw 3 жыл бұрын
I always play merciless eviction, it just stops an indestructible spell in response or that pesky Blightsteel on the board!
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 3 жыл бұрын
Deluge does that too 😅
@purplerhino6710
@purplerhino6710 3 жыл бұрын
@@NitpickingNerds but eviction can kill many different things 🤔
@neillaw
@neillaw 3 жыл бұрын
@@NitpickingNerds how about a buff spell
@josephmersinger8789
@josephmersinger8789 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video as always. Very thorough. I love the analysis of Bontu’s Last Reckoning. I actually used that in my Mono Black Standard deck a few years ago. It was a great way of surviving Esper or Selesnya Tokens or similar builds. In EDH, it’s not good. It basically makes you a sitting duck. 👎🏼
@kristennorth3268
@kristennorth3268 3 жыл бұрын
The recurring lowkey fight over the peace out is my new favorite feature. It's like watching my cats squabble.
@GumballMachinery
@GumballMachinery 3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely LOVE Slaughter the Strong, Retribution of the Meek, and Dusk//Dawn, in my Arcades wall deck! Talk about synergy!!
@Volttikoira
@Volttikoira 3 жыл бұрын
I play By Force rather than Vandalblast in my Zedruu deck for obvious reasons. Slash the Ranks is also very synergistic there, as I mostly gift people with noncreatures and would rather keep Zedruu alive when boardwiping (Tragic Arrogance is also great). Cool video as always, happy to be subscribed.
@returnoftheduelist9790
@returnoftheduelist9790 3 жыл бұрын
Gavi and free cycling makes dismantling wave, decree of silence, and many others real good and instant speed ability that is hard to counter or stop.
@jordankirby7632
@jordankirby7632 3 жыл бұрын
I will accept Akroma's Vengeance in a planeswalker (or cycling?) deck as it specifically doesnt hit them and thats about it. Good content guys!
@efbland1
@efbland1 3 жыл бұрын
You've just convinced me to add Tragic Arrogance to my Syr Gwyn equipment voltron deck, because I only need one creature anyways, and if that creature is Gwyn, then my opponents won't be able to block it when they only have one creature left, due to menace.
@Cam-ki7fk
@Cam-ki7fk 3 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a video on how you rank power levels
@Zappers42
@Zappers42 2 жыл бұрын
I can also see use out of bontu’s last reconning in a deck like Alela or something similar where most of your mana is coming from artifacts. Not that it’s good, but there’s at least an argument there.
@golgariguy
@golgariguy 3 жыл бұрын
I like Find//Finality in budget Golgari lists. The good board wipes in Golgaro are all expensive (Deluge, Damnation) and this is a cute flexible one. Another one I like is Chandra's Ignition, in decks like Xenagos in which it doubles as a wincon.
@TG-ue2vu
@TG-ue2vu 3 жыл бұрын
Ever tried Planar Collapse? 2cmc wrath of god attached to an enchantment, activates on your upkeep if there's 4 or more creatures on the board. I've really enjoyed playing it in my Lurrus deck, recasting it from the grave is fantastic. Same with using hall of heliod's generosity.
@justdrew320
@justdrew320 3 жыл бұрын
I use life's finale in my head deck mainly because my deck requires there to be a lot of creatures in all graveyards, so it helps a little with that
@xaveristunderrattet4663
@xaveristunderrattet4663 3 жыл бұрын
I think you are actually my favourite mtg youtubers Edit: and because magic is the best thing in the world you are the best youtubers EVER (maybe)
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 3 жыл бұрын
This is the highest complement we've ever gotten, thank you XD
@xaveristunderrattet4663
@xaveristunderrattet4663 3 жыл бұрын
@@NitpickingNerds no problem just doing some realtalk u know
@shamtactics4712
@shamtactics4712 3 жыл бұрын
I like Bontu’s Last Reckoning in a budget deck with heavy artifact ramp or decks that can untap lands with cards like Wilderness Reclamation. However I agree that like 70% of the time it hurts to cast it because you either save half your mana for next turn or skip your next turn.
@pixelpelican
@pixelpelican 3 жыл бұрын
Is there a chance for a part 2? I would have liked to see your thoughts on some more board wipes from Blue, Black or Red other than the 2 most common. Also Settle the Wreckage, and what do you see as the difference between Cleansing Nova vs Austere Command?
@teddy7799wastaken
@teddy7799wastaken 3 жыл бұрын
Dudes, your content is addicting
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! :D
@kirakreep
@kirakreep 3 жыл бұрын
Preach it brother!!
@Mellenius
@Mellenius 3 жыл бұрын
Fated Retribution is a good Anti-Walker board wipe too... and sure it is expensive but it is instant speed. (I often have to remind people in the play groups I play with that it is an instant speed boardwipe... and it takes way too many by surprise. And the access to be able to do it instant speed has saved me several times.)
@mikep5330
@mikep5330 3 жыл бұрын
I use two ply for my wipes, it takes care of everything!
@finnj.1786
@finnj.1786 3 жыл бұрын
I play Ravnica at War in my mono white deck and it's pretty good there, a lot of problem permanents are multicolor, but I'm not sure if it qualifies as a boardwipe
@dino-wer-kuh3498
@dino-wer-kuh3498 3 жыл бұрын
i love playing with you guys
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 3 жыл бұрын
We love you
@lordtrollage2819
@lordtrollage2819 3 жыл бұрын
I play Austere Command a lot and a friend of mine have an Aura-heavy deck (Tuvasa), he got PTSD of this :))
@SteakOSaurier
@SteakOSaurier 3 жыл бұрын
Great video as per usual! :) What do you think of Hour of Reckoning in a Token deck like let's say an Emmara Edh Deck. The Convoke can easily be done i would say so it's just 3W and it doesn't kill your Tokens.
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah it's fine, like we say it falls into the synergy camp of boardwipes
@chrisgroulx6071
@chrisgroulx6071 3 жыл бұрын
I love Winds of Abandon. Path to exile with overload. I utilize this card in all my commander decks with white.
@faerie7dragon
@faerie7dragon 3 жыл бұрын
Criminally underrated and underplayed. Gets even better with Aven Mindcensor and/or Leonin Arbiter.
@jacobjensen7704
@jacobjensen7704 3 жыл бұрын
I have to point out that I have had games where Hour of revelation wasn't live when I wanted it to be, but the card is still phenomenal. Still think it's one of the best white board wipes.
@RainbowMarc
@RainbowMarc 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a new player and I put tragic arrogance in a deck with Tergrid, God of Fright, without actually understanding just how good these cards are with each other. And then I played them together ... wow!
@christianholloman9524
@christianholloman9524 2 жыл бұрын
Worldslayer is awesome. Run it in my zurgo deck. It’s just a fun card !
@aaronsamuel501
@aaronsamuel501 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with most of the advice but as a Daretti player i am a big fan of Nev Disk... running Darksteel forge and/or myscosynth lattice with it and leaving nothing but your artifacts or commander on the board to tick it's way up to ultimate is quite a marvellous feeling...
@dylanbeebe1307
@dylanbeebe1307 2 жыл бұрын
Putting Blasphemous Act in an Ad Nauseam deck is the biggest Chad move you can possibly pull
@kingginger3335
@kingginger3335 3 жыл бұрын
Bontu's Reckoning is really good when you have a Seedborn Muse type effect that triggers afterwards. You can float all your mana so you can still cast spells afterwards, and then Wilderness Reclamation or Muse will untap your stuff. 3 mana. Boom
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 3 жыл бұрын
Ewww
@tylerisdrawing9913
@tylerisdrawing9913 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a full analysis on the MDFC land cards with spells on the front. I know you guys praise the Mythic cycle, but I wanna see an analysis on the uncommons/rares. Do you still hold those up to the same level as swapping out a basic for them?
@Hyuuga2109
@Hyuuga2109 3 жыл бұрын
I don't understand how Cleansing Nova gets lumped in with the Fumigate club. By your own criteria, the versatility of being able to wipe either all creatures or all artifacts + enchantments is pretty good. Feels like it's not at the very top, but still a tier above 5CMC creatures-only board wipes.
@milohobo9186
@milohobo9186 3 жыл бұрын
Spiteful Sliver plus Sliver Hivelord followed by Blasphemous Act, chef's kiss
@Leonidous
@Leonidous 2 жыл бұрын
I've tried damn near every board wipe in Orzhov for my aristocrats deck, I still settled on Toxic Deluge, Damnation, and Wrath of God. They all end up being asymmetric regardless of what they do and being lower on the curve allows me to double spell a lot more. I did replace Wrath of God for Damn tho once it came out. Also all my wraths being in black helps with Mausoleum Secrets which can only tutor black cards.
@tonyblitz1
@tonyblitz1 Жыл бұрын
Been thinking about running a GWB Anara/Ravos, Voltron, board wipe deck. Wipe the board, beat down with commander damage, repeat. Maybe play a portcullis to be very cheeky.
@NGYOUTUBER
@NGYOUTUBER 3 жыл бұрын
I like Shatter the Sky a lot in certain decks. It’s kind of like Arcane Denial where you get your card back right away.
@ethanschulze557
@ethanschulze557 3 жыл бұрын
Nevs disk is cool in an artifact deck with mycosynth lattice and darksteel forge. Just a doomsday machine that destroys all of your opponents permanents. Lands too.
@ramensobatv
@ramensobatv 3 жыл бұрын
I really love casting Ezuri’s predation + natural affinity on my green decks. Literally ends games if no one counters it.
@zackkelley2940
@zackkelley2940 2 жыл бұрын
That's so evil... I LOVE IT!
@chrisblack7583
@chrisblack7583 3 жыл бұрын
I run nevs disk in my daretti scrap servant deck. I use unwinding clock to untap it right away, usually i have dark steel forge out also and if im lucky enough ill also have mycosynth lattice then its just game over. But yea thats a janky 4 card combo i have in there.
@BeauregardBlakk
@BeauregardBlakk 3 жыл бұрын
I often times see you recommending to take a look at the card "By Force" which I do agree, it's a cool card but what are your thoughts on "Shattering Spree"? Love your show guys!!
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 3 жыл бұрын
Shattering Spree is also good, less counterable but more mana intensive
@Zappers42
@Zappers42 2 жыл бұрын
The funny thing about planeswalkers is because so many people see them as the weakest card in EDH, they completely ignore them in play until they’re nervous about the ultimate.
@MstrCorrin
@MstrCorrin 4 ай бұрын
Best wipe I ever did was in Oloro - Tragic Arrogance saving my Witch of the Moors
@thomascollins5622
@thomascollins5622 3 жыл бұрын
Comet Storm + Battlefield Thaumaturge is wonderful boardwiping combo Edit: It negates the multikicker cost
@audiophage0
@audiophage0 3 жыл бұрын
You're probably right about By Force, but I like thinking it has political applications that Vandalblast lacks.
@ponymaster2939
@ponymaster2939 3 жыл бұрын
Man merciless eviction saved my ass in so many games, but to be fair, two players of my playgroup are playing uril and marchesa
@stigmaoftherose
@stigmaoftherose 2 жыл бұрын
So one time I tried to build a deck of just board wipes with mageta the lion as the commander. Turns out when everyone else's cards are gone you are a prime target for the removal spells, so even if you have an indestructible card or two it won't last when 3 other people target it as revenge.
@theonedraven8007
@theonedraven8007 3 жыл бұрын
Descend upon the sinful is my fav, its a bit expensive, put flavor win? yes, a body afterwards? yes, from innistrad? massive flavor win if you have rampage of the valkyries on the field? yes
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 3 жыл бұрын
Sometimes flavor is better than power
@drorian
@drorian 3 жыл бұрын
Fumigate saved me so many times where a wrath of God wouldn't have, in a deck with few lifegain options it's great, merciless eviction is the greatest nightmare of superfriends and reanimator/indestructible decks and also works wonders Vs enchantress/artifact decks l especially if they have replenish or other recursion. Recently added austere command and it's often worse. Also cataclysm is insane, especially in my atla palani deck.
@poofypeanut0221
@poofypeanut0221 3 жыл бұрын
I'm commenting at the beginning so you guys might mention it, but the latest addition to great board wipes I think include Spectral Deluge. Those Kaldheim commander decks had some sweet new cards. With that being said, as a long time green lover (since the days when it was "bad" in commander lol, like 2013-14) o don't enjoy board wipes much 😂. I wish every deck was only allowed 2 board wipes. I know they're important but I like the commander games where boards build up and you're having a war of board states, I don't enjoy.so much when every turn cycle has people removing scary stuff. JUST PLAY YOUR IWN SCARY STUFF LEAVE MINE ALONE!! lmao, rant over. But really I kinda miss the 2015-17 commander days. Things have gotten too efficient nowadays.to the format I fell in love with. I still love commander to the point its the only format I play, but I long for the days of "battle cruiser" magic when average.cmc's were 4 or even 5 😂 when turns 1-3 was.everyone ramping. Ahhh, anyways, love you guys lookforward to all your content.
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 3 жыл бұрын
A lot of decks don't need a million which is the worst part lol. At some point you just need to end the game
@Domenico44055
@Domenico44055 3 жыл бұрын
I have an Oloro creatureless deck, it's not my main deck but I like to tune it up every now and then. I started playing like 20 wraths cause i'm creatureless you know it seems a great game plan to wipe the board every 2 turns...but it wasn't lol As time went on i cut most wraths, i am at 6-7 now i think Damnation, Wrath of God, Day of Judgment, Cyclonic Rift if you wanna consider it a board wipe, Decree of Pain for cycling it at least it doens't get countered and draws me a card, Supreme Verdict, and Merciless Eviction to deal with planeswalkers.
@Mightypoo007
@Mightypoo007 3 жыл бұрын
24:51 that grin afterwards
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 3 жыл бұрын
Couldn't keep a straight face! 😂
@william7678
@william7678 3 жыл бұрын
Best thing about Ondu inversion and the double faced land cards... you can tutor a land with mystical tutor and not be mana debt early !!
@tedgop1932
@tedgop1932 3 жыл бұрын
In cedh... Supreme verdict is totally 👌🔥 of you run blue white :)
@siliciaveerah9327
@siliciaveerah9327 3 жыл бұрын
Good to know my enchantress deck is sort of safe xD
@Arvaniz
@Arvaniz 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, they kind of underestimated a little bit the impact of enchantments. I have a Karametra Enchantress deck with 40+ enchantments (including enchantment creatures that would also die). Even my wife's Ur-Dragon has 11 powerful (and important for the deck) enchantments: Dragon Tempest, Trace of Abundance, Journey to Eternity, Monastery Siege, Rhystic Study, Rhythm of the Wild, Temur Ascendancy, Defense of the Heart, Sarkhan's Unsealing, Kindred Discovery, and Sight of the Scalelords.
@alcatrazone9177
@alcatrazone9177 3 жыл бұрын
I have Bontus last reckoning in a black and green commander deck abusing cards untapping during each upkeep of each player, Cards with exert like champion of rhonas profit along these mechanics and of getting constant vigilance via rhonas/vivian and else. I have to say that i've only had good results so far with bontus last reckoning in there, but this seems to be the only case where this card is playable ^^
@yawgmoththranphysician139
@yawgmoththranphysician139 3 жыл бұрын
Essence of the Wild!!
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 3 жыл бұрын
Is that a board wipe lol
@fabianbakker7679
@fabianbakker7679 3 жыл бұрын
So there are a lot of multi color, what would you recommend for a mono-green elf deck. 2/3 board wipes :D
@alanturnbull9163
@alanturnbull9163 3 жыл бұрын
Although it destroys lands, my favorite board wipe (and everything wipe) is Decree of Annihilation in my Shrine deck
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 3 жыл бұрын
That card is very good 😌
@jeanmarais337
@jeanmarais337 3 жыл бұрын
Just a word of warning...never completely dismiss a card. Most often there will be specific decks that have synergy with it. Always at least consider it, regardless how bad it seems on the face of it. For example, Bontu's last reckoning fits well in a Marchesa the Black Rose deck. Reasons: your creatures will probably all come back on your endstep after the wipe, and you have many mana rocks to untap, because it's grixis's way of ramping. So you have about 30% of your mana on your next turn available with a full board. Those are valid arguments for a 3 mana board wipe.
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 3 жыл бұрын
But spending one more mana on that board wipe lets you use 100% of your mana that turn and the following turn, and there's so many better options for something like Marchesa
@jeanmarais337
@jeanmarais337 3 жыл бұрын
@@NitpickingNerds well let's see if I can afford Damnation this time round after Timespiral Remastered reprint.
@TheChristianCommando
@TheChristianCommando 3 жыл бұрын
Love Tragic Arrogance getting the recognition it deserves
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 3 жыл бұрын
How is it only $1.50?
@justinhowell1728
@justinhowell1728 3 жыл бұрын
Sigh, Dead of Winter... 2 and a black to give -/- for each snow permanent (but not to snow creatures). Just use snow covered lands and its an insanely good cheap budget board wipe.
@selkokieli843
@selkokieli843 3 жыл бұрын
if only snow lands didn't send the budget back by that much 😪
@justinhowell1728
@justinhowell1728 3 жыл бұрын
@@selkokieli843 I mean Kaldheim wa just released
@TheOneAndOnlyCrawl
@TheOneAndOnlyCrawl 3 жыл бұрын
I still like merciless eviction because it doesn't matter what i'm up against, i can shut down the most problematic players game plan for good, especially when i know their deck has graveyard recursion for the things i just blew up somewhere in the 99 or even the command zone.
@sothisis1962
@sothisis1962 2 жыл бұрын
I mean you can by force to whatever vandal blast is And you destroy what four artifacts? I think ifs worth running both because with by force you don’t destroy stuff you don’t want to And it can be x to the equivalent to Valndal anyway
@mmartak
@mmartak 3 жыл бұрын
Still no mention of possibly the best boardwipe ever made: Nightmare Unmaking. It's 5 mana, it EXILES all the creatures, and is trivial to strategize around so that it is one-sided. It's also less than a quarter and has only ever been printed once. I have a serious challenge for anyone who reads this: in any deck you think you might play Damnation, put in Nightmare Unmaking instead. If it ever, ever, EVER whiffs for you, I'll send you a free copy of the card, postage not included.
@Techmarine113
@Techmarine113 3 жыл бұрын
I would assume Doomskar and Shatter the Sky are with the other 4 mana classic Wrath effects, though Doomskar can be cast for 3.
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 3 жыл бұрын
They basically are, yeah
@Will_Morand
@Will_Morand 3 жыл бұрын
The only reason I don’t play on Discord is because the only deck I have built is an Anowon aggro deck. . . Fallen Shinobi and Opposition Agent and Thadda Adel and Thieving Skydiver. . . it’s a little difficult to play over webcam.
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah stealing things can be tough
@everythingisbizzaaaaaro3694
@everythingisbizzaaaaaro3694 3 жыл бұрын
I know it's not amazing, but Ghen has made me appreciate Planar Collapse a lot more.
@bdmcdowell4
@bdmcdowell4 3 жыл бұрын
Another deck Nevs Disk is good in are superfriends decks. But yes otherwise its too slow. TomMeeTalks has a Pramikon superfirends deck and its lit for that deck.
@scarletrobin
@scarletrobin 3 жыл бұрын
Yep, I slapped a Merciless Eviction into an Orzhov deck thinking it was just a strictly better Austere Command. For some reason I thought for 6 mana you'd definitely get to choose two. Choosing one felt so bad. Still exiles which is neat in some cases but being twice the cmc of Toxic Deluge for often the same overall effect is just confusing
@amodking
@amodking 3 жыл бұрын
Toxic being so expensive it might not be cost effective to get it all the time. But I mean a simple wrath of god lol
@spurcalluth6300
@spurcalluth6300 3 жыл бұрын
I'm brewing a superfriends deck, so my thought process is: "Is this a board wipe? It is a worthwhile board wipe." But thanks for this video. My next deck won't have a million board wipes, then this will be really useful.
@DanteInformal
@DanteInformal 3 жыл бұрын
If y'all love Tragic Arrogance, you need to give some love to Mythos of Snapdax. It's a Mardu identity board wipe that has the same effect as Catclysmic Gearhulk where everyone chooses what they sacrifice and what they keep, but Mythos becomes becomes a 4 mana Tragic Arrogance if you spend exactly WWRB to cast it. I think Mythos gets really overshadowed by Ruinous Ultimatum since they both debuted in Ikoria, but Mythos is just as powerful, WAY easier to cast, and deserves a lot more love than it gets. I've not lost a game yet when I've resolved Mythos of Snapdax; it has been that backbreaking for my opponents. Love the show, and planing to become a patron! Is there an audio-only version of your show I can listen to at work?
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 3 жыл бұрын
We have some select episodes from the past available in podcast form, nothing extremely recent I don't think as the demand hasn't been super high. Thanks for supporting the channel, and we agree that Mythos is super good and we name-drop it as a mardu version of Arrogance :D
@jordanhansen5934
@jordanhansen5934 2 жыл бұрын
How about Cyclone Summoner and River's Rebuke? R.r. has good targeted single player boardwipe and C.s. removes everything that isn't a giant, wizard, or land.
@deadNdivine12
@deadNdivine12 3 жыл бұрын
Alright, alright.. I'll consider those swaps haha.
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 3 жыл бұрын
Let us know how it goes 😂
@daddio89
@daddio89 3 жыл бұрын
Surprised you guys didn't mention Fracturing Gust - the ability to have that effect at instant speed is really powerful, five mana isn't bad and the hybrid GW mana allows it to be more easily cast.
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 3 жыл бұрын
It fits into the middle
@MP-om9fj
@MP-om9fj 3 жыл бұрын
Fight Dino is in my Atla deck since I can pay two for it at instant speed lol.
@esrohm6460
@esrohm6460 2 жыл бұрын
outside of overload cards i near to never put boardwipes in my deck. especially because i don't play tutors boardwipes are just hit or miss and with good spot removal you barely get in a situation where you need some. it also helps when that what i am doing makes combat irrelevant, 40 life is a lot of puffer to win before you lose to damage.
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