Fantastic video! I'm about to buy new camera batteries and this will help a lot!
@tarstarkusz3 жыл бұрын
Buy once, cry once. Buy the Nikon. The other one might turn out to be good, but don't forget that you are putting an unknown quality battery in your very expensive DSLR camera that could be damaged by a malfunctioning battery.
@electronicsNmore3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! Now you know which brands to avoid. :-)
@JT-lq4yd3 жыл бұрын
You get what you pay for. Sometimes a OEM will be a good alternative. Although difficult to find which is better, videos like this take the guesswork out of selecting one when Eeny, meeny, miney, moe.. doesn't cut it. Excellent content!
@electronicsNmore3 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked the video! As of now, another huge waste of my time and money. How is it even remotely possible for this video to not have many thousands of views by now? Illogical. All the people on YT filming videos, should be watching and sharing the video. More proof YT is hiding my content.
@JT-lq4yd3 жыл бұрын
@@electronicsNmore I did see the views are close to 900 and that is unfortunate, people are not interested in learning or videos that not entertaining but also helpful. What I think is happening is that when the subscribers get a notification of a new video and they dismiss it, "the algorithm" sees that there is diminished interest in the content being created. I say this because with a channel(no yours) that I subbed to, I did not watch the videos and after a few days, I stopped getting notifications and even recommendations to the channel. I do believe when the new algorithm was placed in "service" a lot of channels got less views.
@scruffytech3 жыл бұрын
As always, excellent test protocol and great rule of thumb in checking the weight.
@electronicsNmore3 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked the video!
@ThePreyMantas3 жыл бұрын
Another informative exploration. There is so much "Chinese and now others dumping" going on. I have a friend who had me do a group system build. He did all the purchasing and I estimate he lost about roughly $300 all tolled most of the junk came from eBay and was brazenly sold as USB3.0 sticks and HUBs. Not only were the sticks and hubs only 2.0, they were all defective as well. There are thieves and liars out there that really suck. Thanks to all of you guys who put the truth out there for all to see. I whow the FBI is working their asses off chasing these thieves...
@joesephcantinelli7291 Жыл бұрын
I have been looking for this video for 2 days. Thank you. I truly needed this info. I find it funny even project farm gave thanks and he is pratically a haven of information .
@sapelesteve3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! I always wondered about those off brand batteries & if they were worth purchasing. Now I know! Thanks....... 👍👍😉😉👏👏
@electronicsNmore3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Steve!
@joelgodin17143 жыл бұрын
Excellent test and representation of most Chinese products. Having traveled to China (Shanghai and Ningbo) to visit manufactures, I can tell you there are 3 types of vendors. 1)The intermediate dealer, he/she is just a trader, a middle man between you and the factory. 2) The con artist. You show up at their factory and there may be people packing stuff, but no manufacturing equipment. Their excuse is 'we are in the middle of a move from our old factory to here'. The have lots of products to show you, but no production machinery. 3)The genuine factory's that are being used by the big boys. They are dirty, they are working hard, machines are buzzing, they almost don't want to talk to you because they are so busy, they don't care if they get your business or not. For example one Plastic Injection company was making bumpers for Mercedes and BMW. Lots of expensive molds on the shelves ($100,000 plus), lots of other molds. A room full of CAD drafters. Another channel that is from an ex pat of China explains it well. Chinese philosophy is it doesn't matter how you make money, there is no shame in scamming or conning or copying. The end result is the only gauge of success. That being said, if you can navigate through the sharks, trap doors, and con games, you can make money by importing items from China. You just have to be really, really careful. A bit of luck helps too.
@electronicsNmore3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! They sure do engage in a lot of deception.
@extremelydave3 жыл бұрын
This just reinforces my thoughts after trying 3rd party camera batteries and what other people I know have experienced and passed along. I'll stick with OEM so I know what I have.... Excellent video!!!!!
@electronicsNmore3 жыл бұрын
OEM is the best for long term reliability.
@darthbubba8663 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thanks for all the work you put into it.
@electronicsNmore3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! As of now, YT hasn't shown it to people interested in cameras or batteries. Another waste of time video. If another popular channel uploaded this video, it would already have 1M views. Thanks for watching!
@darthbubba8663 жыл бұрын
@@electronicsNmore Just an aside; YT did send me a notification for this video.
@electronicsNmore3 жыл бұрын
@@darthbubba866 Yes, but they're not recommending the video to the correct audience, and without doing that, it will never get views.
@MediaWebservice2 жыл бұрын
@@electronicsNmore Do you have any idea why YT is doing this? I have come across this more often when making websites for others. You also sometimes see a highly scoring video, but the channel remains untraceable without a hard link. However, I can't quite put my hand on it yet, or put my finger on it. That last line is a Dutch saying and I don't know if I can translate it that way to Florida. 😄
@t.e.11894 ай бұрын
Any update on the Powerextra?
@svgs650r Жыл бұрын
Fantastic info… just like the OTHO Rays!
@IrreverentSOB Жыл бұрын
Excellent video, thank you !
@zeroed4x Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for the incredible / informative video.
@gasbike100mpg2 жыл бұрын
thanks, just what i was looking for, and also the same bettery that i am looking at!!!
@Francois_Dupont3 жыл бұрын
very good test!
@electronicsNmore3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Be sure to share.
@RichardKinch3 жыл бұрын
What is the battery tester you're using? Do you recommend it?
@electronicsNmore3 жыл бұрын
Hi Richard. I use it in all my videos, it's very good. There's a link in the video description area. Thanks for watching!
@ThePreyMantas3 жыл бұрын
Hey Steve! Just wondering how the Powerextra battery faired?
@ededmonds87923 жыл бұрын
I need a 📷.For Video.Thanks for your Work.
@Sylvan_dB3 жыл бұрын
This is great. That Powerextra was a bit of a surprise for the price. Might be worth buying a second one and see if it is consistent?
@electronicsNmore3 жыл бұрын
I think it would be a good backup battery to have on hand if your OEM's aren't fully charged.
@xonx2093 жыл бұрын
I suggest you introduce the battery discharger. Not everyone knows what it is. Next to capacity my main concern would be safety. How likely are they to overheat? Do they have some sort of protection built-in (e.g. short circuit protection, over charging protection, over drain protection, over temperature... etc).
@electronicsNmore3 жыл бұрын
Filming video with live view active, uses the most power. They battery packs should be fine. You saw the temp I measured in the video, they were all in a similar range.
@HillsWorkbench3 жыл бұрын
I would of like to have seen the Vivitar tested too, to drive the point home or not. I have had pretty good luck with the Power Extra s though one died after about two years. In my tests, the PE did do a little better than the Nikon (which has a lower rated capacity). Tested when the Nikon was still fairly new but did have a couple more cycles than the PEs. I had charged them all with the same wall-wart charger from PE.
@electronicsNmore3 жыл бұрын
The fact that Vivitar lied so bad about the capacity rating, I would never trust anything from them, including the cells used in the battery packs.
@Ootgreet1 Жыл бұрын
Very helpful and thank you for doing professional, quantitative lab work to review these makes of batteries. I've used Vivitar LION replacement batteries (in a Canon G16) and they are total garbage and this corroborates your rule of thumb. They hold almost no charge in practice; as soon as you snap a few pictures or even preview a few shots the battery meter drops a bar. I just picked up two Powerextra batteries in a kit bundled with a charger, for a Samsung Nx2000 for which no OEM batteries seem to be made any more, and they seem good as your test indicates. I hope they are because the OEM batteries are unavailable.
@krass763 жыл бұрын
good test, wouldn't have thunk chinese replacements were this bad
@electronicsNmore3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it. Be sure to share. Thanks!
@winstonsmith4783 жыл бұрын
And as soon as a particular off-brand becomes popular, IT will then be counterfeited.
@electronicsNmore3 жыл бұрын
True
@tarstarkusz3 жыл бұрын
In my experience, there is no free lunch when it comes to batteries. Cheaper batteries give worse performance. They are MUCH more sensitive to problems. They have lower capacity and they do not last as long (need to be replaced sooner) even under ideal use case. They also tend to voltage drop more when under a big load because they have higher internal resistance.
@electronicsNmore3 жыл бұрын
When it comes to recording videos, OEM is the only way to go.
@tarstarkusz3 жыл бұрын
@@electronicsNmore Not to mention ruining you $2k camera.
@electronicsNmore3 жыл бұрын
@@tarstarkusz Mine cost only $650. I wouldn't spend more than that for the views I get.
@tarstarkusz3 жыл бұрын
@@electronicsNmore Wow. That's a good price. Your video quality isn't exactly bad either.
@ededmonds87923 жыл бұрын
I got notified.Srared.
@jimhatch143 жыл бұрын
check capacity after they have been cycled a few times.
@johndii21943 жыл бұрын
I just bought a different type of Kastar brand for a friend's camera. I just checked and I could have gotten a Powerextra brand. Oh Well, at least I didn't buy an EcoEficient brand.
@electronicsNmore3 жыл бұрын
Now you know. :-)
@anthonypelchat3 жыл бұрын
It seems like it would be better to just use one or two 18650s instead. A single one could easily beat the capacity at a similar weight, though with lower voltage. Dual cells would have the voltage and much higher capacity, at the expense of more weight. I'm really not liking these Li-Ion polymer batteries. Capacity is fine, but the lifespan and expense are horrible in comparison to 18650 cells. And laptop manufacturers are overcharging them (with cells designed for it of course), but lowering the lifespan even more for just a minor capacity increase.
@electronicsNmore3 жыл бұрын
The 18650s take up too much space.
@anthonypelchat3 жыл бұрын
@@electronicsNmore We couldn't fit them, but the device could have been built to use them instead. It just bugs me as there isn't much of a savings for these devices.
@azimalif2663 жыл бұрын
Or replace the cells inside.
@electronicsNmore3 жыл бұрын
That can be done, but buy Japanese cells.
@morid393810 ай бұрын
hi do you have an update video for this, since we are in 2024? 😃
@electronicsNmore10 ай бұрын
I would make another, but KZbin buries my videos in the search results so it's not worthwhile
@Quickened13 жыл бұрын
Well there are two generic battery manufacturers giving this a thumbs down so far...
@electronicsNmore3 жыл бұрын
No, those are the usual YT haters. LOL
@AmazingSurvivalKH3 жыл бұрын
good good
@PrasetyoMuhammadDwiBiology3 жыл бұрын
or build a cheaper regulated powerbank external battery for your camera
@electronicsNmore3 жыл бұрын
That can be done, but the battery door won't close.
@G56AG3 жыл бұрын
I find your use of terminology very confusing, I use Lipo and Li Ion all the time, they ARE NOT the same. Most of your batteries were clearly marked as Li ion batteries. I fly RC airplanes many of which are electric these days, they use Lipo batteries due to their very high power density, yet require careful use due to their inherent danger, there have been many houses burn down while recharging Lipo batteries. On some airplanes we also use Li ion batteries to power the radios, they don't have enough power to fly the plane but work well powering the radio equipment. In use the Li ion batteries have proven to be much safer than Lipo batteries. So I'm looking around the net and find all kinds of different advice, much of it in direct opposition to what we have found in actual use. One primary rule of Lipo batteries is you NEVER charge them unless you are right there to put out a fire if needed, yet Li ion batteries often used in phones and cameras are commonly left unattended when charging and there are rarely any problems. It amazes me how much information is out there and much of it is flat wrong, much of it the direct opposite of reality... I will say in this case I find this test very informative, I recently ordered a new camera battery, I got a high priced OEM battery for my Canon from a Camera Store since I've had poor results with off brand batteries which usually aren't the bargain they seem to be.
@electronicsNmore3 жыл бұрын
Basically the same chemistry a lipo, but with a dry solid, porous chemical, or gel-like electrolyte, rather than a liquid. I opened up 2 older en-el14a's, and they have (2) lipo cells inside. Yes, they are marked lithium-ion. Thanks for watching
@vincents.39963 жыл бұрын
Weight chart at 5:00 is truncated, this is very bad presentation giving false sense of proportion.
@electronicsNmore3 жыл бұрын
I think people can read numbers, the charting software made it that way.
@ronniepirtlejr26063 жыл бұрын
You give what you paid for with electronics and batteries. If you buy from Japan, you get premium top-of-the-line! In my opinion, Japan has the #1 quality Electronics in the world! If you buy from China, ... They steal other's designs, Market them as a improved product, build it with the lowest priced materials available. So basically, they steal other people's business because of dishonest business practices! WAKE UP PEOPLE, YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR! China needs to realize that it is okay to build something cheap & Market it as cheap. It's okay to buy something cheap if, ..you are expecting it to be cheap! STAY HONEST!
@electronicsNmore3 жыл бұрын
I agree, Japan does make the best electronics, but China has come a long way from the absolute junk they made years ago. They still have a lot of work to do, and they need to stop lying about specifications and stealing other people's ideas.
@set3777 Жыл бұрын
Please don't just generalise! E.g. Sony after paying lots of money for laptop battery fires, sold all their battery manufacturing to Murata - (Most famous Capacitor & electronics compnents maker in Japan) Panasonic still makes batteries but chemistry differs whether there is more or less Nickel present. Panasonic had bought over Sanyo who made best "Enelop" Alkaline batteries. I think Samsung/LG branded South Korean Batteries are OK - tested with my mobile phones.
@ignorethisaccount692 жыл бұрын
I have a Sony and the only 3rd party battery I will use PERIOD is the one made by Energizer because I am not the kind of person that will cheap out on camera batteries, and the only reason I got that and not an OEM Sony battery is because they were out of stock, any other brand is too untrustworthy for me to want to put in my Sony Cybershot DSC-W350 digital point and shoot. I will never use it with those $11.99 for 2 Kastar aftermarket NP-BN1 replacement batteries, they're just too untrustworthy because lithium is a volatile element and I just don't know if they're more likely to spontaneously combust inside my camera while I'm taking a video.