Which Chain Lube is Best? Let's find out! Ultimate chain lubricant showdown!

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you all for the terrific video suggestions! I've provided the links to the chain lubricants below but recommend shopping around for a better price. Thanks again and best regards, Todd Lucas Chain Lube: amzn.to/2FIRow9 Dupont: amzn.to/2FP45pp Liquid Wrench: amzn.to/34qk7Aq Schaeffer's: amzn.to/31iLwC7 Purple Extreme: amzn.to/2E7SQYP

[@markstevens8749]

LPS #3

[@m1975michael]

The CRC link is missing.

[@rasmusf5615]

do u think u can test Motul and if u can try and get your hands on Biltema its a swedish brand so it might be hard but still i would really like to see if there is a major diffrence and i mean i could be what ever chainlube , motoroil and so on

[@littlejohnkww9]

lucas link came up as crc

[@zachm.3049]

Did I miss something about bike chains and project farm? Or has the bike chain itself not been tested. Asking this because of e-bike mid drive with high torque output. How long will it last, some rolling resistance and how much abuse does it tolerate 😇

[@hpt08]

I'd love to see the face of the guy at the hardware store, every time Project Farm walks in :-)

[@ProjectFarm]

lol. I do get some interesting comments.

[@rouge5140]

probably a smile, must be big sales.

[@atlas42185]

@@ProjectFarm Speaking of which, I'd like to humbly put forth Anal Lube as a test suggestion. Great videos by the way

[@legend1140]

Just look at mr.crabs from spongebob

[@LedzeppelinDogsGuns]

@@atlas42185 LMAO

[@ericd385]

try some chain lubes from motorcycle chemical manufacturers. Maxima, Bel ray, Pj1, Motul etc. as always i enjoy what you do on this channel!

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you for the video idea!

Valvoline White synthetic or dry chain lube from other manufacturesrs

[@boosthit811]

Exactly, I was thinking the same thing.

[@jeemboNC]

Totally agree with motorcycle-targeted products. Add WD40 and 90w gear oil to the mix.

[@wyldebyll3089]

I agree, we sold PJ1 lube at the motorcycle shop I worked at. No complaints, everybody loved it.

[@mustie1]

great video, l was thinking chain saw bar and chain oils,

[@ProjectFarm]

Mustie1, Thank you very much! I really like the chainsaw bar and chain oils video idea. By the way, you've got a great KZbin Channel!

[@HuntingMyFish]

I was thinking the same thing test bar and chain oils.

[@tarstarkusz]

AH! It looks like Mustie1 beat me to it. You, Mustie and AVE should get together and do a collaboration video. 3 times good and more better!

[@mikedrz]

Mustie I think we have the same youtube recommended list. I always end up commenting on a video around the same time you're around. haha

[@sender6994]

Oh hey mustie, I watch your channel

[@David-mu5rv]

As a motorcyclist, this is always the quest. Finding the perfect chain lube. You hit the nail on the head when discussing the intended use. Adventure riders will use something different that paved riding. Thank you for the vid!!

[@ProjectFarm]

You are welcome! Thanks for sharing.

[@bilboswaggens2975]

Most motorcycle companies recommend gear oil. o

[@MissMan666]

@@bilboswaggens2975While gear oil is great, i use it on my motorcycle to. It's worth noting the reason why the motorcycle companies recommend gear oil. They obviously do not have interest in recommending specific brands here, rather something generic...and that's also why gear oil is ideal. With that said gear oil is very good, it's just that the application methed is more cumbersome that a spray. I with we could have gear oil on spray can, that would make it soooo much easier.

[@grigorirasputin996]

I've always used gear oil, and my chains last a long time. I've heard the argument that petroleum products could degrade x and o-rings but I have not experienced this. My zx6r has had the same o-ring chain for 5 years and the o-rings look pristine. I don't put alot of miles on that particular bike but the rings have been coated in gear oil the entire time. That's been my experience ymmv.

[@hasbeengood]

I'm always impressed at how imaginative you get to test all those things.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you!

[@hayyremz]

Test gun solvents please. Against like carbon build up and lead particulates. Great video, always quality and never rushed. Thanks

[@ProjectFarm]

Great video idea! Thank you

[@Kanaval89]

I would be interested in this as well. A lot of misinformation on the internet about gun lube. They should handle high amounts of heat, resist carbon build up, and not dry out over a period of time. Low viscosity, drying up oil is primarily used, though I think a grease would probably work better.

[@metal_mo]

I'd love to see gun solvents as well!!!

[@tank2449]

what is the stuff called????

[@WINTEJER000]

maybe do one on copper solvents and black powder solvents too

[@MotardHard]

You can punch a hole in any test like this, but I admire the work you go into for all of these showdown videos. It is obvious you spent time thinking about everything in the test. Thank you and keep up the good work.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you very much!

[@brucecoleman7412]

Hey Todd! I would like to see a test of how much operating resistance exists on each chain with each lube. I would have done the dirt and rust tests last to keep other variables out of the results. Great work! Thanks for your service!

[@ProjectFarm]

Great suggestion! Thank you.

[@999thenewman]

DuPont Chain Saver (teflon wax) is a great overall product for any moving part/cable, plastic or metal. Most air-born contaminates don't cling to it.

[@ProjectFarm]

Great point!

[@ericjcherry]

I am a Dupont fan for a number of reasons. I'm a motorcyclist, as in I ride all year long, rain, winter, on and off road. Tens of thousands of miles a year. Chain maintenance is a chore, but necessary for safety, performance and economy. Sadly I'm out there cleaning and lubricating my chains every weekend, but it's gotta be done! The real secret to making chains last in my experience is the lube, lubing regularly but most important is cleaning the chain regularly. I get about 75,000-100,000 miles out of my chain and sprockets and have had good success with Dupont. It goes on, dries and doesn't fling off so it's not slinging lubricant onto your swingarm and tire. It helps keep dirt from sticking to the chain and accelerating wear. But Dupont shines in another area, they make another product called Motorcycle Degreaser that's formulated for safely removing their own brand of chain lubricants. That makes cleaning a whole lot more efficient and easier. Another factor for me is a personal event I had with the company, when they debuted the product I remember reading something about chemicals you shouldn't use to clean the chain with afterwards. But they weren't clear on what to use instead. I searched their website, couldn't find anything to satisfy me. I hit their contact link expecting some computer generated reply stating, "Thank you for choosing Dupont, please visit out website at....". Ya know, companies that size, even if you could get a human, would they ever find you someone who could give you an answer? But I got a real person send me an email back minutes later, not just with information but tons of pertinent information. Guy really knew his stuff. This was about a year before they came out with their Motorcycle Degreaser product too. And when that was about to come to market, I got a personal email from the same guy at Dupont letting me know it was to be available and to check it out. Both events really impressed me, here I am, just some lone dude with nothing more than $10 invested in their product. Getting that much personal attention to make sure I was getting my money's worth, that I was satisfied with the product and had the information I needed. Was a good lesson for all businesses to strive for, do the extra, make a good product and you get a customer for life. They got me!

[@SportBikeAnthony]

I agree. I've been using that Dupont chain saver teflon wax on my motorcycle chain for a few years now. So far it's been a great product.

[@999thenewman]

Yes, any chain-driven machine can use this product, including small engine equipment. Tillers, aerators, walk-behind concrete saws and more.

[@Bob_on_Bikes]

Agreed on dupont. It's well revered in most motorcycle message boards, and by another independent reviewer, webbikeworld. The fact that it starts dry and ends dry is what keeps it on the rollers, rings and between the plates.

[@ajl9491]

great test as usual ..you are the new Consumer Reports for this century imho so dont let us down with sponsorship deals!

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you! I'll continue to decline all offers.

[@lifeisgood070]

idc if you get sponsored. People should be paid for their work, especially great work like yours. Just keep an honest opinion! :) Maybe get sponsored by someone that's irrelevant to your industry like a book company, whole foods, or etc. lol.

[@jttech44]

@@ProjectFarm It'd be fine if you had commercials or something, just not from a company that's tied to products you test. Something like squarespace would be fine whereas lucas oil or something would not be fine. You deserve more than you're making from these videos, I'm sure of it. Your content is usually beyond reproach, and when there's an issue you listen and solve it with a follow up without any grumbling because it seems like you want to know what product is best as much as we do!

[@ThatElectronicsFool]

Your tests are off the chain!

[@ProjectFarm]

lol. Thank you

[@johnsobery]

Ah man, I was gonna say that!

[@samurboi8007]

@@johnsobery rest in potatoes

[@arlobubble3748]

@* there’s a hair on you’re screen * - a new competitor has stepped into the ring...

[@Bl4ckw0lf1]

That's so cheesy.

[@jedediahhoffman7925]

I know this is an old video, and I'm sure you'll not see this... But I just love your videos. I work in a diesel shop, and I work with a lot of old timers. Old timers are set in their ways with what they think is best. Howes is one that comes to mind. After watching your videos it's opened my eyes to many revelations on what actually works better. Thank you for all these videos and your quest for truth.

[@dalltex]

CRC is a nice product. The dirt magnet aspect does make a difference though. Any lube is better then no lube. Nice video!!

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you!

[@keltonwright7]

I disagree, in some applications no lube is better then lube. See my other comment.

[@blk77sunshn]

If it makes you feel any better ( it probably won't but...here goes anyway) the company I work for uses the very CRC chain lube you chose for your bailer to lube chains and exposed gear drives on machinery and CNC equipment where I work and it does work well. Good choice. Thanks for another awesome video!

[@bic235]

I use the DuPont on my 4 wheeler and I must say the wax coating seems really good at keeping dirt and even mud off the chain.

[@MtnPeakEnduro]

I hated cleaning chains all the time on my dirt bikes and then the guy at my local motorcycle shop told me about DuPont. I have o-ring and non o-ring chains and this stuff works great on both types. I use to hate non o-ring chains but that guy told me to soak them in kerosene and they lube them up really good with the DuPont. So far the non o-ring chains are lasting a really long time. Not as long as o-ring chains but I like how they are lighter and make the throttle feel snappier.

[@stevethea5250]

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[@RRaucina]

@@MtnPeakEnduro Take a lesson from bulldozers; Hardened steel parts wearing on hardened steel parts in dirt. Longest life is NON lubed. In fact it is essential.

[@LedzeppelinDogsGuns]

@@RRaucina you have a good point there

[@LedzeppelinDogsGuns]

I LOVE THE STUFF

[@killinkrillin]

As someone who is about to purchase and ride a bicycle for the first time in about 20 years, I really appreciate this video.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks so much!

[@PrintEverything20005]

Also from working on many many hay balers I would also highly recommend spraying the chain twice a day, if you bale all day, spray once in the morning before you start and then after you get back from eating something

[@jwctube1]

I would like to see a test on “lifetime” disc brake pads vs the “regular” pads. Maybe how much more wear occurs from quick stops vs longer slow down times.

[@eformance]

It would be interesting to build a chain tester that puts a significant torque load on the chain for a period of time. Then measure chain stretch (sag between 2 points) and the diameter of the chain rollers (for wear). That would be a highly relevant test to see how each product actually performs and improving the longevity of a chain. The control chain (bicycle chains) would be dry, then you can measure the relative life and performance of each chain. I would also change the drive and driven sprockets between tests and measure their wear, since sprocket wear is a factor in lubrication performance as well.

[@ProjectFarm]

Great recommendation!

[@kNasty_]

This would be neat to see, but it might be slightly disappointing since chains don't stretch. It would essentially be a wear test, since chain "stretch" is just wear at all the points where a link interfaces with the next.

[@kraklakvakve]

@@kNasty_ So they do stretch, after all?

[@eformance]

@@kNasty_ links certainly do stretch.

[@davidscott5903]

@@eformance It usually just appears as if the chains stretch. The length of the chain gets longer, but that is usually due to wear at each pin in each link. If you have a thousandth of an inch wear at each pin, and you have 100 pins, then the length of the chain gets longer by 100 thousandths of an inch, or 0.1 inches, but each link did not get stretched any. There is the condition when extreme torque is applied, such as when someone does wheelies, and they over stress a chain, and each link gets pulled hard enough to stretch them. If and when that happens it ruins a chain in seconds.

[@brianhind6149]

AS usual your procedures to ensure compensation for data slewing mechanisms are second to none. Who the Hell ever tested chain lubricants? Great job & some surprises involved. Your channel is a public asset.

[@davidalderman7776]

The amount of time you spend on these products, testing for us, is amazing. Your the best. Like other viewers, I’d like to see maxima, white lithium grease etc.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you!

[@Krankie_V]

I can always count on you for putting together some great product tests. I will keep my eyes open for that CRC chain lube for my old Honda ATC

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you!

[@Avitaser]

Here's something unusual, but cheap with LOTS of uses. Coconut Oil. Best damn gun lube I've ever found...I'm an ex-cop in Florida and carry concealed ultra low profile...steel on skin. The only oil I've found that can keep the rust at bay is coconut. Slickest too. Put it on, wipe it off...lasts a really long time and is skin safe. Let's just say, you can test that out after a long day by convincing Project Farm and a half to give you a back rub using it. Use the solidifying kind for cooking and 'personal' use and I recommend the fractionated (liq at room temp) for weapons and cold wx apps. Try it, you'll love it. Tips from an old cop...

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for the tip!

[@arlobubble3748]

Have used it for tons of things, but never thought of it as a mechanical lubricant. Time for project farm to fire up the lubricity tester I think

[@heyitsvos]

Brought to you by our friends at the Pacific Resources Board

[@Avitaser]

Yard Sale Dale - I have lots of 'proper holsters' and don't care for them. That doesn't stop me from buying them and then adding to the drawer. I prefer clip styles and don't intend to get sidetracked on this topic. I've been carrying guns everyday since the mid 80's. I know what I'm doing. Re-read my post, please. "Put it on, wipe it off" No, it doesn't run all down and off the gun. But since it's a fully saturated hydrocarbon, it's EXTREMELY resistant to oxidation, since all the oxygen binding points are already occupied. That's why it's so shelf stable. The mags get a light coat too and they run like butter. Buttahh... silky smooth. I've paid for Eezox (next best), and tried Mobil 1, CLP, RemOil, you name it...compared to EVCO they are distant seconds. It works so well, that now any metal that is rust prone, gets a swipe. My sword collection is almost maintenance free now (thank goodness)...I use in to make Bulletproof Coffee since it's a medium chain triglyceride and much more closely matches human biological needs than the long chain fats in grains and other sources. As a massage oil, it's ideal. Hard at room temp, melts at body temp, and dries soft and non-messy. Get it on something, no problemo...it's clear and washes out without messing stuff up. Stays slick while you work it, then dries...did I say ideal. The list goes on. Love melted wax scents...except the wax gets burnt over time. NP...just use coconut oil in a jelly jar on a cup warmer and put whatever essential oil you like and enjoy cheap fragrance all day...lasts years not weeks. So, yeah...it works. And after a few decades of feeling automatics on my skin, I'm used to it and find it 'reassuring'. The guns run great now.

[@Avitaser]

legacysage - Absolutely. Test both yourself in apps where you use mineral oil now. You'll be thanking me.

[@Strange_Brew]

I’ve been cycling for years. I’ve tried everything including dipping my chain in hot wax. I’ve found that full synthetic 2 stroke motor oil to be the best. Just seems like there’s less resistance pedaling. And that’s what counts. It does pick up a little dirt but I routinely wipe the chain off with a cloth. I also wipe the excess oil off after I lube the chain . 2 stroke motor oil is also the cheapest. Small bottle at Walmart is 2.50$ compared to 12-14$ for bike chain oil.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for sharing.

[@MikesGarage96]

Two videos in two days. Awesome!

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you! Wish I could publish 2 per week more often.

[@chrisstarbard2051]

Thanks for another great video! Have always enjoyed your videos. When I was a cyclist I was a huge fan of white lightning chain lube products. They weren't awfully expensive and were easy to find. If love to know how they compare to what you tested

[@matsramharter4544]

5:08 that really was a lotta dammage

[@ProjectFarm]

lol

[@patricksweeney6857]

To show you the power of flex tape I saw this boat in half! Holy shit that's a lotta damage!

[@elismigel707]

hahahaha

[@elismigel707]

for those who don't know its a Fortnite reference.

[@benmitchell2967]

I knew it

[@AZREDFERN]

What if you sealed the chain compartment and add a breather filter. If it needs a little airflow to stay cool, add an exit fan coming off the main sprocket. CVT transmissions do the same thing for cars, scooters, and even side by sides. They have a centrifugal fan attached to the crank sucking in filtered air, creating a positive pressure environment to keep dust out.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you for the video idea!

[@gravis346]

Try dry graphite film chain lubricant.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for the recommendation.

[@avldxvw]

I use Tuf Glide nothing works better for the dusty, abrasive environment I work in.

[@jamiedaugherty1]

That's exactly what I thought when watching this. None of the products tested would hold up on a motorcycle. I use BelRay chain lube that looks similar to white lithium grease.

[@wobblysauce]

Both of the above for push bikes. Myself use wax lubricants for motorbike chain, no rust and seals the O, X, W rings in the chain, as that is all it is the most important thing to stop the lube in the bearings getting out. Chainsaws are different again and is more of a consumable.

[@foreverhungry84]

could you test various 2 stroke oils in the lubricity tester please?

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for the recommendation.

[@wiley0714]

It would be an interesting concept but you would have to go with the theory that you would have to run the same fuel to air mixture and then depending where the overall person is using the product their results would vary. I add seafoam and Lucas Fuel Treatment to my fuel in addition to running Amsoil Sabre. I use it in a single cylinder piston ultralight aircraft engine and my running temperatures for the past 2 years are minimal. Also carbon buildup comparably running Avgas has been significantly less which I would expect from adding basically any additive.

[@fivespeed3026]

He should try some of the “off brand” bulk oils that lawn mower dealers sell by the gallon. That’s what I was using, but have now switched to Quicksilver from Walmart, which is even cheaper. I can get a used motor for my weed whacker for $40 on EBay, so I want the cheapest oil that will get me through a season.

[@Spudderr]

Klotz,castor 927, amsoil dominator, and cheap gas station oil would be a good comparison in my mind

[@michaellindsey13]

zepfan96 x2 on the amsoil. thats all i use in my 2 strokes. amsoil saber 100:1

[@Omegadoomship]

How about testing different brand chainsaw bar and chain oil?

[@ProjectFarm]

Great video idea!

[@MikesGarage96]

Project Farm I 2nd that!

[@FishFind3000]

Yea I second that.

[@kokocostanza2036]

Yep, that was my first thought when I saw the title

[@MrRickyrecon]

I will add a vote to this one as well. I have used the Husqvarna Bar and Chain oil and found it to bee thick as honey... pun intended.

[@Wespups]

Thanks for your videos! I'm an electric bike mechanic with 8 thousand fleet repairs for electric pushbikes. Rock n roll chain lube (Not tested here) specifically states that after application of lube to chain to wipe off excess external chain links with a clean dry rag or paper towel. This aids in the prevention of dirt and grime at least building up on the external part of the chain. It's the rollers inside the chain that wear out as we know. I have found this product to be quite good, however due to the static electricity build up that exposed chains on push bikes experience they all have a limited lifespan. Correct chain tension and regular suitable application and cleaning of the chain in my opinion are the best ways to prolong chain life. The ultimate protection is an enclosed chain guard or shaft drive!! Thanks for your thorough testing videos, certainly helping to cut through the BS of advertising on so many products. Cheers from Wes ( Australia)

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you!

[@mikegauthier1770]

He finally gives us his opinion on which brand seems to have won the competition. Usual'y he ends up saying it is up to you to determine who won

[@ProjectFarm]

Great point. I'll be providing more opinions on products in the future.

[@mikegauthier1770]

Love your videos by the way. Every time I receive an alert from your channel, I stop doing what I am doing and religiously watch your video

[@CaptHollister]

Mike Gauthier The winner often depends on which aspect being tested is most important to you.

[@nathanlewis4881]

I think a showdown of gear oils would be neat

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for the recommendation.

[@michaelbaxter8249]

Honda recommends 80-90w gear oil for its motorcycles and it has performed well compared to alternatives in other tests

[@jeladsnikpoh1289]

Royal Purple gear oil is really good, but at a cost! I consider using it for my motorcycle chain, but satisfied with DuPont Chain Saver. I have RP gear oil in rear diff of my motorhome and Duramax truck, and experienced noticeable improvement on both. I've heard its excellent on motorcycle chains too (but imagine it attracts dirt).

[@Jthumper]

I just put super tech gear oil in my $60,000 Dodge Ram hopefully it's as good as the motor oil is

[@TheBeatenPaths]

Amsoil will win that one too.

[@WaltSorensen]

Good chain lubes are often dry lubes, no surprise that some were dry at the end of the chainsaw test. Some have drying requirements before use. The dry chain lubes will exfoliate dust and grime needing reapplication to maintain lubrication of the chain (see bottle directions)

[@teravolt6113]

PAG air conditioning compressor oil seems to stick a lot to metal surfaces btw, and the double end capped variant apparently isn't hygroscopic at all. Another good dry and relatively inexpensive chain lube, try it if you can.

[@zacharyburkum8547]

Thanks again for another great video! As other viewers have suggested, I'd be curious to see another showdown that includes some more cycling-specific products. The Bel-ray Super Clean Chain Lube was great on my motorcycle, and we've been using Boeshield T9 on our bicycles with great success. My girlfriend also likes Finish Line's Wet Lubricant. Thanks again!

[@ProjectFarm]

Great suggestion! Thank you.

[@davidboyer3825]

Try motorcycle chain lub and warm the chain up before applying. Love your videos very helpful

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you!

[@thedude7726]

Warm lube always helps 😂😂

[@straight6petrol]

"this chain cost $100 so I want it to last" that sounds like a normal person... Very rare on here now... Then again he isn't owned by a company!!!

[@ProjectFarm]

Great point! Thank you!

[@hardup9809]

I go through about 3to 4 chains a year between my dirtbike and street bike must not be a normal person

[@2450logan]

@@hardup9809 Wtf! You murdering your bike lol

[@hardup9809]

@@2450logan when I go to my local bike shop they like to put little customer notes at the bottom for me as a joke the last one read " customer is aware that wheelies may affect chain life"

[@Yonatan24]

@@hardup9809 Do they get too loose or do they explode on you? I've had a fairly new bike (MTB) chain explode on me.

[@insanejughead]

What did your face look like during the chainsaw test? Was it like Mel Gibson from Braveheart?

[@ProjectFarm]

lol

[@Sumpinking1]

rofl

[@jeladsnikpoh1289]

I imagine 'Jason', muahahaha!

[@trackpackgt877]

Bicycle I watched this to know what the best chain lube was for my dirt bike great video again brother

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you!

[@filthynice88]

I forget what lube we used in the shop ... But when we'd unload the bikes my uncle would spray the chains with pb blaster(I believe) while we warmed the bikes up ... It's hard to recall because we stopped racing motocross by time I started jr. High two decades ago

[@silverstrings5569]

The chainsaw test is the only one I have any sort of contention with, as it seems some of these were not at all designed for chains moving at such speeds. That said, It is a pretty informative test overall. As an alternative, a slow-ish speed test, an electric motor set at a certain speed with a sprocket at the end, tied to an idler on a bar a set distance away might have been a more controlled manner to test the sling of the oils for lower-speed applications. This could also let you dial up/down the speed by adjusting the drive motor. Just my opinion, and hopefully it can be helpful for a future test down the road. Like perhaps testing what type of replacement (or emergency) belt/ belt material is best...

[@danamatic7216]

You should use the crc chain lube as engine oil.

[@ProjectFarm]

Great video idea!

[@LeatherNeck1833]

It would be interesting to see if it can hold up at those high temps.

[@jessstuart7495]

I've always used spray white-lithium grease on my motorcycle and bicycle chains.

[@rebkong]

RESPECT THE WHITE LITHIUM BUBBA

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for the recommendation.

[@daveyt4802]

Most O-ring chains come new covered in lithium grease. I like the wax ones for bike chains though.

[@WaltSorensen]

I find the lithium grease to be a major dirt magnet, I prefer the dry wax lubes.

[@kimtoy3089]

Great video as always! I ride a bicycle (150+ miles per week) and commute by small displacement motorcycle (400+ miles per week). One thing you didn’t test was the amount of drag that the product adds. For the distances I travel on low torque 2-wheelers, drag is a significant concern. I found that the DuPont creates the least amount of drag, and yet still lasts the 400-500 miles recommended lube interval. This is in rainy Seattle weather. I do get a small amount of rust, but since so little gunk sticks to the chain, they actually last about 50% longer. However, I also wipe down and re-lube my chains weekly, so maintenance with a lightweight lube is critical. DuPont is my personal choice for my personal use case. :) I 100% agree that it would not work under heavy loads on machinery like a harvester! Again, great videos, well done and well thought out.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for the constructive feedback.

[@chrrtz_builds2018]

What about using butter in the engine's crankcase ?? (Molten obviously).

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for the video idea!

[@jusb1066]

or lard!

[@chrrtz_builds2018]

@@jusb1066 Yeeeaaa good idea as well.

[@chromeweapon]

Organic motor lubricant showdown

[@arlobubble3748]

@@jusb1066 i imagine lard would work better, butter has some water content in it

[@bootslangley4875]

Hi Project Farm, I'm really enjoying your product comparisons. Including this one, despite my favorite Chain Lube (Dupont Chain Saver) not showing all that well. I use it on my eBike/eScooters, the the chains seem to hold up well, but they aren't run in high speed conditions like a motorcycle. Instead, they are run at 15-35mph, for 6-10 mi at a time, and lubed frequently. I agree with the poster below, that I'd like to see the motorcycle chemical manufacturers. Maxima, Bel ray, Pj1, Motul etc also tested. And, against the winner CRC of this test. Thanks in advance for entertaining and informative, Real World information we all can use. BTW, I've only learned of your channel in the last few months, and I subscribed immediately. Now, I give a thumbs up before I even watch the video, knowing it's going to teach me something and I appreciate your hard work to be fair in your evaluations. Stay safe and healthy. cheers Boots Langley La Mesa, ca

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for watching and subscribing.

[@munn34]

Best youtuber ever

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you!

[@realname2404]

Thanks for the great videos. If I may suggest a change could you consider weighing the chain before covering with sand and after covering with sand so that can easily distinguish the difference. A non contact temperature reader for reading the chain saw temperature, also to make sure that the test rig had the same initial temperature while testing all chains.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you for the feedback

[@WayneWerner]

Another option would be weighing the sand, dipping the chain in, and then weighing the sand that's left. Some oil may drip off too but that might also be interesting

[@DJAsHeRMusic]

I got a interesting video for you. Testing which lubes meant for humans for doing various things *cough* (Ky jelly, durex etc etc) is best in lubriscy tester? These lubes could have some use mechanicly lol. You did do shampoo so I don't think it would be 2 off topic and I'm sure people would be intrested to know haha.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for the video idea!

[@gregoutdoorsman4598]

Daniel Asher he will have to start a naughty channel that you don’t watch with your kids lol

[@EGGINFOOLS]

Go to youtube kids app. They probably have it there. There's a sespool of despots there.

[@pixelmaster3095]

And to try this as engine oil

[@CaseyFinSF]

@@ProjectFarm I think you'd have a lot of fun doing this one (especially after youre tests are done😉) I want to see what contraption you come up with for the tests. Use a sawsall with a dildoe on it going into a fleshlight and see how long they last before losing lubricity and tearing up the products... just a thought.... hehe I can feel the cringe factor for the bros on this one...lol

[@RideWithRen]

Acetone will destroy any o-rings in the chains, next time use kerosene.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you

[@TheUnlikeGuy]

Thank you. I did not know that.

[@lazurm]

Chains don't have o-rings.

[@RideWithRen]

@@lazurm Motorcycle chains do.

[@lazurm]

Thank you, I obviously didn't know that.

[@1966v8mustang]

Love watching your videos. I reload my own ammo for all my firearms. I would love to see if you could test out some of the case lube to see what one is best. Or see if the alchohol and liquid lanolin is best.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for the video idea!

[@jeladsnikpoh1289]

I use the DuPont Chain Saver for my motorcycle chain. I live in a very dusty and sandy place, and have been impressed with the results. The 3 main criteria for me is its superior resistance to sand/debris, decently long-lasting rust prevention, and by far the best value for the $. The test that measures the amount of product still on the chain (or dryness) doesn't really apply because it's a 'wax-based' lubricant and is supposed to be 'dry'. I upgraded from even cheaper 'Champion' brand junk, and won't be going back. Different type of chains (hay bailer, conveyor belt, chain saws, and motorcycle/bicycle chains) would certainly require different criteria. I wouldn't recommend DuPont on chainsaw, but it's about as good as it gets for my little sport bike chain. Your channel is as good as it gets too!

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for the feedback.

[@8radeko]

Hey, love your videos :). I'd like to see motorcycle chain lubes compared - JMC topsynth, motul c2 and similar

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you for the video idea!

[@wirenut3020]

Yes, but be aware that whatever chain cleaner you use can’t harm the o-rings or x-rings. Which is better o-rings or x-rings? Lol

[@nadronnocojr]

There is a product called finish line it comes in red and green one for wet co dictions one for dirt . These are use for hi performance bicycles , not sure if they would work in the industrial world, but the stuff works , and picks up dirt on the derailers ....it’s more like a wax ... it may give ahard time in cold weather below freezing . I never tried , but if you do a part deux It’s just an idea, Very concise, and creative ways of testing . I always enjoy your videos . And your approach, fun fun fun

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you for the video idea!

[@TheNewFaceOfHSP]

@@ProjectFarm To second this guy, I use them for my (high end) MTB's and especially the Finish Line Red for dry conditions is based on teflon/wax and seems to stick great while avoiding dirt. I don't know if you would consider that "cheating" compared to oils, but it's nice. It's definitely WAY more expensive than these products though and probably has a gigantic markup because it's for the bike world....

[@keltonwright7]

When we bought our John Deere round baler in 2004, the dealer told us never lube or oil the chains as it just causes dust and dirt to stick to it and cause additional wear. So we never oiled the chains and all the chains are still original after 14 years and probably 10,000 bales, and the chains are just a little rusty and worn, but what can you expect after that length of time.

[@ProjectFarm]

Wow! This is interesting. The owners manual says to use motor oil and I've spoken with the local Vermeer dealer and local guys who bale a ton of hay and they all oil their chains. I'll dig into this more. I need the chains and sprockets to last as long as possible.

[@gasdive]

@@ProjectFarm have you considered a chain oiler? One drop per minute, keeps the chain lubed and pretty clean because the dirt is carried away by the oil. You can buy them, but I made one for my motorcycle for a few dollars.

[@daveyt4802]

Any way to keep the dust and dirt out of the area better?

[@davidscott5903]

@@daveyt4802 There is always a way, even if its cardboard cut out pieces painted for a little water resistance.

[@themilkman1784]

sounds like the dealer was trying to sell you new chains and sprockets in a few years. My JD 457 baler has 22,000 bales and its still on its original sprockets and chains although the secondary drive chain for the belts has broken a few times because it can slip off the idler when doing light straw bales. Always lubed with used motor oil as well as every other chain on every other piece of equipment we have (harvester, forage wagons etc) in my opinion, if you have the baler set right, there shouldn't be any reason for dirt to be on the chains apart from hay dust which I expect isn't very abrasive. Happy baling!

[@awetisimgaming7473]

I know a lot of people use tri flow lubricant, as well as t-9, these I have seen to be used also as gun lubricants as well. Finish line brand is also a brand I've used in the professional setting in 3 different bike shops (one of which was a very high end shop even), and there is a wax based lubricant for a few brands as well.

[@killogsfruit2445]

5:08 NOW THATS A LOT OF DAMAGE

[@ProjectFarm]

lol

[@goodtimes2656]

Bel ray Maxima WD-40 chain lube WD-40 regular Great video

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you!

[@stalinyourleader3846]

1:48 Got a new moniter to read all these comments? lol

[@ProjectFarm]

Nice! Thank you

[@J69-y2d]

my daily commuter 5 miles...seafoam deep creep wipedown every 4-6 months...thanks again for your great channel

[@ProjectFarm]

You are welcome!

[@rorymeehan781]

Who’s here before he hits 200m views

[@ProjectFarm]

lol

[@gutserker]

I'm actually surprised the Dupont chain saver attracted any dirt at all. As it's a wax with Teflon it's meant to stay dry with no fling. It says in the instructions you have to wait half an hour before use. I'm not particularly surprised it didn't do much good during the chainsaw test. Teflon breaks down at those kinds of temperatures. It's also not designed for that kind of intense use case.

[@Kanaval89]

Teflon has a melting point of 600+F. When used as a plastic it's actually pretty good at handling high temps.

[@gutserker]

Maybe but the molecule starts to break down at 450F. Look at the huge debate on teflon pans

[@Kanaval89]

@@gutserker I'll have to look into those, since I'd imagine a Teflon coating != a sheet of Teflon. I've only ever used it as an industrial plastic when either lubricity, chemical resistance, or temperature resistance is required.

[@gutserker]

I had to look into the numbers again to make sure. I think there's a wide range between the point where it starts to break and release molecular components, and the point where it's no longer useful. But from my own experience using that product I would think it's more useful in less extreme environments

[@athuldev5307]

Test 90 weight gear oil as chain lube

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for the video idea!

[@shadowpotatoe9482]

I used that before, it works.

[@gunchowder5065]

It’ll work great if you like your bike smelling like hot gear oil

[@shadowpotatoe9482]

@@gunchowder5065 yea i did not use it on a bike chain....

[@stevenalvindiaz3451]

Thats what i use. Better that loctite

[@grattonland]

Great video as always. Rewatching the old ones as I need to start shopping 🙂 If you do another showdown for chain lube, I wonder if you could try: - CRC - Chain & Wire Rope Lubricant - Kleen-Flo - Honey-Goo Chain Lube - Blaster - Long-Lasting Chain & Cable Lubricant - WD-40 - Bike All-Condition Chain Lube Not sure if any of those are Canada only or not.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks! Thanks for the suggestion.

[@animalmother556x45]

............ 7:05 ........ " *Still* has a lot of it on the chain, *still* Uses a *Stihl* saw.......savage as fack

[@Avitaser]

Motorkote. Just bought a quart...for ~$20. Based on your testing...low friction, sticks. Sounds like chain lube to me. What say?

[@ProjectFarm]

Great point! I should have tested it.

[@modem8153]

Yes!

[@arlobubble3748]

I'd love to see motorkote as 100% mix in the crankcase, would be very expensive in a car but a bit more feasible in a lawnmower engine

[@JW86SH]

Definitely an opportunity to come back to this if you need another video. Wet lubes vs dry lubes. WD-40, Finish Line Dry, Finish Line Wet, WD-40 Bike. I loved that you used a sand test!

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you for the video idea!

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you for the video idea!

[@hench_wrench_repairs]

5:08 That’s A lot of Damage😂😂

[@ProjectFarm]

lol. Thank you

[@voided76]

@@ProjectFarm LOL... I better search flex seal project farm next

[@ScramblerUSA]

A HUGE mistake is to put a motorcycle chain in the acetone. Some better chains have grease between pins and rollers and are sealed with rubber rings. Acetone only ruins this, so chains will not function properly. Putting lube on the outside where it doesn't belong is a bad idea - it only picks up the dirt, making the things worth. Lube needs to be inside - between pin and roller.

[@ProjectFarm]

Great point. The goal was to prevent factory lube from interfering with the test results.

[@floflospeed24]

Here, it's not an o-ring chain, so no problem cleaning it with a acetone or fuel. But your comment is totally right for an o-ring type chain. Never clean it with anything else than a specific chain degreaser or you could really mess up your chain, fast ! And be super careful with high pressure washer, don't wash your chain with it ! Lot's of my friends complain about having to change their chain and sprockets often (like every 10k kms), but they don't really know how to properly maintain them. Mine begins to feel old after.... 30k. :D

[@Nudnik1]

Alexander Khritonenkov Special lube for o ring chains. Dirt bike world has them but they didn't really last any longer.

[@Oldbmwr100rs]

WD 40 for washing off O ring motorcycle chains works very well. Let dry and give a good coat of high quality chain lube after. Do this after riding while the chain is warm if possible.

[@elsullo2]

Yes, WD 40 is a good solvent cleaner, BUT do not use it alone without chain lube after, as you say. Many folks think it is a lubricant oil---IT IS NOT A LUBRICANT OR A RUSTPROOFER!!!!……………………………...elsullo

[@thejunkman]

11:21 that is because it is marketed to cyclists, they have disposable income to overpay for a product.

[@ProjectFarm]

Great point!

[@bobdixon3048]

thejunkman we don’t over pay we just get quality

[@liberacemiami5302]

Lifelong cyclist that rides every single day except when there's a hurricane in South Florida. I'm here to tell you wax baseddry lubricants(purple) no matter what the cost are far superior for a cyclist. For crying out loud..... open gear lubricants are for extreme Duty like cranes and hoists.... This test was one of his worst every lubricant had a purpose but almost none of them were the comparable

[@nickanon329]

@@liberacemiami5302 worst ever? He said at the end that most of them have a purpose. Turn closed captioning on in case you were too deaf to hear it.

[@nekomasteryoutube3232]

I have a bike that I use soley for transport and I dont have the money for expensive lubricants, I have to make due with WD40 and used motor oil when I can get it.

[@ronskopitz2360]

Probably already pointed out, but... the DuPont (and probably the Purple Extreme) is a “dry lube”. It’s basically Teflon suspended in a rapid-drying solution. These tend to be specifically designed for situations where you want good internal lubrication (within the chain bearings, but not necessarily between the chain and sprocket(s)), and little to no dirt accumulation on the chain. These are popular for mountain biking since dirt in the drivetrain will cause shifting problems. They’re great products, just don’t know that they are the best fit for your bailer use-case.... Great stuff, as always!!

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for the feedback.

[@ctdmowing]

Phil Swift and Project Farm "That's a lot of damage!"

[@ProjectFarm]

lol. Thank you

[@Spirit_Lanayru]

Drinking game: take a shot every time he says chain.

[@spencerlervik2083]

Good luck son

[@jdirt1982]

I run maxima chain wax with a synthetic Astro glide blend it is rated for over 1098 ft lbs of horse Newton meters ......🤔

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for the recommendation.

[@griffinmackenzie]

Project Farm that’s not a recommendation lol

[@etubrutus3501]

I’ve ridden dirtbike’s and I am now in my 50s, all chain lubes are worthless. All they do is accumulate on the chain, collect dirt, and create a grinding compound. I know you’re going to roll your eyes, but the best chain lube is WD-40. Every time you get done riding put a small drip pan underneath the sprocket and clean the chain with WD-40. It washes away the dirt, creates a corrosion barrier and whisks away moisture. I love your show

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks! Thanks for sharing!

[@practicalguy973]

You should test Royal purple against real bike chain lube WD40 bike Wet, WD40 bike Dry and normal WD40. Maybe add some other populate bike chain lubes. I l know for cheap cyclists a lot of them use plain WD40 which is bad from what I'm told. I use Finish Line Dry Teflon which is very popular!

[@ProjectFarm]

Great test idea!

[@SignorLuigi]

Great video, always! Speaking for Project Farm fans who are also advise cyclists, I'd really love to see tests of more lubes for bicycle chains besides Purple Extreme. The internet is full of ads claiming their bike chain lube is the best. Finish Line, Rock & Roll, Tri-Flow, etc. all make a wide array of wet and dry lubes for different riding conditions. Most interesting are wax lubes, which require more preparation, but promise the longest chain life with little to no contamination from sticking debris. I don't know if it's ok to post links, but here's is a reputable source video with instructions for making a homemade wax lube that promises outstanding performance. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fnnVaq2krNWqo7M

[@heavyset0223]

That's what I tell the wife, bite the pillow I'm going in dry

[@richardfield9560]

I'm sure it's been said, but Rust Check has a lifetime guarantee against rust on cars and trucks. It never dries out and actually protects electronics. The inventor's history has tie-ins with Krown Rust Control. I'm new here, but hit me up and I'll send ya some product. I am not a company representative, but I do work at a place where we use it on vehicles, and I have used it myself to clean up wrenches, nuts and bolts, on my bicycle chain, and more. I have become highly addicted to your channel - stellar work!

[@richardfield9560]

Oh... and I've read the Hazardous Materials/Safety Data Sheets, and it is safe to use. No eye protection or mask required, and... if a human or animal drinks some by accident ... no worries. It is safe to ingest (although the imbiber would most likely be spending some time in the washroom!)

[@hunterbrown4120]

“Pretty dry”

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you

[@Hondasrock87]

I used chain fed machines at a previous job and we always used CRC. But we also had a chain sweeper brush to keep particulates off the chain.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you! It seems to do a great job

[@Krankie_V]

Well I know what I'll be buying for my bike chains from now on. That Purple Extreme stuff is really impressive! The cost isn't a big deal since in that application not much product is needed. Great video as always man!

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you for the feedback

[@Dingus420]

What about for cast iron chain links? A grain elevator converted for elevating firewood perhaps? doesn't see much saw dust or wood chips but bits of bark I suppose it does see. I love how thorough and fair you are with your testing!

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you for the video idea!

[@Dingus420]

@@ProjectFarm Glad I can help!

[@firmbutton6485]

It would be interesting to add a scottoiler oil or two to a test like this, especially for electric bikes where every watt saved is an extra distance covered. I use a scottoiler to keep the o rings wet and keep the chain as efficient as possible.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for the feedback.

[@xtrickster6556]

I've been using Lucas for years and never had an issue with rust or dust and sand. As long as you clean once a week then reapply it's perfectly fine

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for the feedback.

[@nspinicelli]

Some input on the Dupont: My motorcycle has been in storage essentially for nearly 3.5 years. Last time the chain was lubed and used was with Dupont, after a track day at Daytona International Raceway. 3.5 years later there is ZERO rust, and the chain still feels great (no binding). Very impressed.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for sharing.

[@geoffforshag1587]

As always, thank you Todd. My experience owning a Trek bike shop for 6 years gave a lot of opportunity to test chain lubes. For bikes the wet-to-dry lubes like Rock & Roll Gold (king of lubes) and Finish Line were all we used in the shop. The advantage of R&R is that it cleans the chain at the same time as leaving the dry lube. Hands-down improves chain performance and life.

[@ProjectFarm]

You are welcome! Thanks for sharing.

[@nicnak4475]

Bike shop guy told me to change the chain regularly, as these are much cheaper than buying new sprockets, seemed good advice to me, Great vid as always.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks! Thanks for the feedback.

[@photog1529]

Just came across this video. I also have a hay baler, and its a struggle to keep the chains properly lubed with all the dirt and dust that gets generated. I've been using a product by Liquid Wrench (IIRC), but will probably give the CRC a try for the next hay season. The trick is to use a lubricant that's thin enough to get into the internal surfaces of the chain (pins and bushings), while being thick enough to maintain a slight film on the outer surfaces. Thanks for your efforts.

[@ProjectFarm]

You are welcome!

[@ThomasSlaney]

Great video! If you watch videos on bike chain lubes such as from GMBN, they talk about “wet” and “dry” lubes. The DuPont you tested looks like a dry lube: repels dirt and dust in dry conditions but less water resistant. Would be interesting if you compared some of those. Cheers.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for the suggestion.

[@snakeeye814]

I always used the Dupont chain saver on motorcycle x or o ring chains. I liked how it didn't fling everywhere and seemed to keep things clean while lubing.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you!

[@ayrplanes]

Please test chainsaw bar oils. I've read a lot of posts about some of the Stihl oil not flowing in cold weather and wrecking bars. Plase also test Husqvarna and Echo and TSC oils. Thanks!

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for the suggestion.

[@cliffkiracofe6772]

Thanks for the video. It would be great to have another show down with some of the motorcycle specific chain lubes facing off against your top two finishers from this video

[@ProjectFarm]

You are welcome! Thanks for the suggestion.

[@jaythatguyyouknow5135]

How about a video on grease and how to go about picking what’s right for the application? Also some type of brand showdown too?

[@ProjectFarm]

Great recommendation! Thank you

[@mengel420]

I remember I mentioned this in a previous post, but testing 80W-90 Gear Oil would be interesting to see. That's what I used on our security gate chain, but I have a feeling that there's something better (and less smelly) out there that would work better - especially because the system has a mechanical sprocket that pulls the chain back and forth. The primary complaint when they used chain grease was that it gunked up the sprocket and also the axle that turns the sprocket, causing gunk-related damage that required too much cleaning and it was a very messy job to do that took far too long. Thanks for the great video!

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for the video idea.

[@randallthomas5207]

I use the Dupont, it seams to work best in dry dusty environments because it dries into a film, which doesn’t attract dust. I have teh least chain wear with it of anything short of the lube I used for bicycle chains 40 years ago. That consisted of putting a bunch of chains in a coffee can, and poring melted paraffin wax in until the chains were covered, then setting it in a 300-degree oven for about an hour. That is best method I have ever found, and had the longest chain life.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for the feedback.

[@JP-ug1xr]

Depends on application, but I use the Dupont spray on my bicycle and I absolutely love the stuff. I use it on my entire bike as I occasionally get caught in the rain down here in Florida. It seems to waterproof everything and frame, wheels, hardware shine like new after wiping off excess. Chain is quiet, stays clean and is rust free.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thank you for the feedback

[@kylarholcomb]

You the man I tried liquid wrench on my shifter kart chain and completely cooked a chain in 2 motos being dry after each moto. We don’t have much dirt and everything gets cleaned so definitely going to alter the crc to get longer life on the go kart

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks for the feedback.

[@twp35]

The best time to lube a chain is right after it is used and the chain is still warm. Lube it up and it will be nice and slick the next time it's used and it won't sling off as bad. Cool video.

[@ProjectFarm]

Thanks! Thanks for the feedback.