Which Famous German Ace Was Shot Down in the First WW2 Combat For the French Air Force?

[@showtime112]

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[@mikemulligan5731]

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[@drfunkestein]

Your introduction is true about the state of the French air force in 1939. But there are a couple of things to say in addition. 1- the French army was already aware of the deficiencies in question and that it had initiated a major modernization program in 1937. But which would not succeed until the end of 39 and beginning of 40........too late. This is what caused the panic buying of American Curtiss Hawks, from the end of 38 to the beginning of 39, to make up for the delay. Or the Vought V-156F Vindicator, or some North-American A-64. These aircraft are already outdated and are only intended to bridge the gap between the program and the start of the war. Like other models that are even more obsolete and which will not even arrive before the armistice. I am thinking of the Curtiss SBC-4 Helldiver-Cleveland, the only aircrafts delivered to France rusting on an airstrip in the West Indies throughout the war. Or even the Northrop A-17 A, which like the Grumman GR-36-wildcat-martlet, will not have time to arrive in France and will be given to England. But at the beginning of 1940 fabulous aircrafts will emerge from this modernization program. Like the Dewoitine D-520, or the Bloch 152. Some will only remain prototypes, like the VG-33 arsenal, or the Potez 230.... there will also be a complete range of light bombers. Unfortunately too little, too late.

[@drfunkestein]

2- we must also not forget that despite all this, the French pilots between September 39 and June 40, will shoot down more than 900 German aircraft!!!! which proves the quality of French pilots. But above all, it will be of great service to the R.A.F. in his future fight during the Battle of Britain. Even Churchill admitted it and even Luftwaffe officers complained about it, before starting the Battle of Britain. This fact is often overlooked. It's a shame. 3-But despite all this, the great misfortune of the French Air Force was the will of its leaders to employ it in a totally stupid way!!!! the leaders of the French air force did not believe in the use of ground attack aviation. They had a too high opinion of themselves and never wanted to collaborate with "the crawlers"....the infantry. This caused zero cooperation between the two arms and when we know the strategic importance of the alliance between air and land, at the military level, we easily understand the fatal strategic error that this attitude was. Hundreds of examples exist during the Battle of France, where the non-use of air weapons by the French, because of the lack of cooperation, was fatal to them. The most famous remains the breakthrough of Sedan!!!!!....the columns of German tanks had been spotted!!!! But the Army was suspicious about the information coming from the Air Force!!!! and when the attack began on Sedan, the air force refused to send the fighter to shoot down the German bombers, although they were poorly protected, because the fighter "should not be used for basic work"... .sic... result of all this incompetence and this arrogance.....the encirclement of the French and English forces in Belgium.....and fall of France. Here I hope to have shed a little light on your lantern of knowledge. and thank you for your video

[@craigibbotson3501]

This is a little talked about time inww2, i'm interested.

[@showtime112]

Thank you for the feedback! The topic is overlooked for sure.

[@2dtorus]

@@showtime112 i agree with Craig

[@timonsolus]

Look up the Wikipedia page on the Saar Offensive - the French advance into Germany in September 1939. (The French moved up to the German defensive Seigfried Line, but did not attack it - and they retreated back into France after the fall of Warsaw.)

[@showtime112]

Noted, thank you for the feedback!

[@Pouncer9000]

Oh yes! I think H75 ace Edmond MARIN La MESLÉE merits an episode , but maybe you prefer covering specific combats rather than individuals? You could always do an episode on Pierre Le GLOAN and what he was up to on June 15th 1940, that way you do a bit of both..

[@showtime112]

I do both, sometimes I focus on a particular pilot while sometimes I cover a certain battle or a campaign. Thank you for the suggestions!

[@danhubert-hx4ss]

Excellent vid, early WW II deserves more coverage. BTW, IIRC Mölders was shot down once more in the Battle of France, by a rookie pilot on his first and last sortie as he was killed in his second sortie.

[@showtime112]

Glad you liked it! True, I remember that story. I think the French pilot might have been killed just minutes after hitting Mölders.

[@danhubert-hx4ss]

@@showtime112 I`m fairly certain he was killed in his second and last sortie.

[@xvg3980]

@@showtime112 I can confirm that : it was Slt René Pomier Layrargues the 5th of June 1940.

[@jeannotschumacher1024]

He wasn't killed afterwards. Flew on different other occasions later on. ​@@xvg3980

[@jeannotschumacher1024]

No. You're right. I considered another pilot.

[@patrickwentz8413]

The P 36 / Model 75 was a nasty little bird in a dog fight. The handful that got airborne at Pearl Harbor found a target rich environment of Japanese bombers and fighters.

[@showtime112]

It is definitely an overlooked fighter. Thank you for your comment!

[@edstoutenburg3990]

And its use by the Finnish AF against the Russians.​@@showtime112

[@dominiqueroudier9401]

First as usual😂😂hello mate, thanks you for vidéo about first clash between armée de l'air and Luftwaffe. H-75A-1 was good plane with well trained pilots,very agile but lack of power 900hp and 4x7,5mm Guns. Next batch have 1050hp and 6×7,5mm Guns. Unfortunately this war became phoney until May june 1940. So was the first to shot down the first German fighter Bf109E. For anecdote, his clone P36 was also the firstUS plane to shot down the first japanese plane ,this is to say ,2 Zéro in Pearl harbor. Guns were better 4 or 6 X 7,7mm. Later 2x12,7mm on engine cowling.. PS. Today is Jeanne zehner 's birthday!!❤🎂

[@showtime112]

Congratulations for being first. Hope you didn't have to work today :) P-36 is one of those 'forgotten' airplanes that did rather well under some circumstances.

[@vidgrip8622]

Yes, please. More on air combat in the "Phony War".

[@showtime112]

Thank you very much for the feedback!

[@nickmitsialis]

@@showtime112 Do you happen to know if a good book about the aerial portion of the 'Phony War' exists?

[@showtime112]

I'm not sure if there's a single book that focuses on that period. I found info from several of them that are usually about a specific type of aircraft which participated in the battles. Some of them are listed in the video description.

[@nickmitsialis]

@@showtime112 Yes; i've looked for info like what LW fighter units were assigned near the Franco/German Border from war's start to right up to May 1940 but the info is hard to find unless you do a deep dive in the fighter units in question--not to mention, it's sometimes 'subjective' what constitutes 'near'.

[@supahfly1972]

Thank you! As one of your patrons I was hoping you would get to this little-known part of WW2. By all means please continue to cover it. And as usual, marvelous job.

[@showtime112]

Thank you for being there for this channel! Also, feel free to add suggestions for topics.

[@juancarlosperezcortes9259]

As usual, an excellent video. These small stories made you realize the greatest of the conflict

[@showtime112]

I'm grateful for your positive comment!

[@dominiqueroudier9401]

8:59 the first french plane shot down at beginning of ww2 was à Mureaux 115 from GAO553( groupe observation d 'armée) based in Strasbourg

[@showtime112]

True, thank you for adding info. I deliberately stayed vague about its specific type because I didn't have it so I approximated with another, somewhat similar model.

[@davidfortezadelrey3181]

What a labor of love, excellent video as usual @showtime112. Thanks from the bottom of the heart for taking your time to put these together

[@showtime112]

I'm grateful for your sincere comment! Stay tuned for more :)

[@davidfortezadelrey3181]

@@showtime112 I will!

[@TOMCATnbr]

French air force, like the soldier on the ground, fought bravely and courageously in 1940. Mostly with less capable equipment (in the air) Nothing is more false that the white flaggers we get from the armistice of 1940. Thanks a lot for this video, who help to show to the world that french soldiers of 1940 where by no mean weak. Gloire a nos anciens 🇨🇵 PS: 0:30 french build the Maginot line also because of the lack of population after all the dead of WW1. having a strong definsive line with powerfull bunkers require less soldiers to manage the front line. It's also why, most of 1940 french tank had a 2 or 3 man crew unlike the german who had a 4 or 5 man crew.

[@showtime112]

Thank you for the comment and for contributing information!

[@eric-wb7gj]

French manpower issues go back to Napoleonic times. It's not really why the French had 2 or 3 man crews, it was just their doctrine at the time. The Germans struck upon the best compromise for their medium tanks, but their smaller tanks which were the most common, had smaller crews (like the British, Czechs, Poles, Italians, Japanese, Americans, Soviets). French, Belgians & Germans (& Czechs) all had ideas of defensive lines, which went back to WW1. The Belgians only stopped their part of the defensive line, & went for neutrality, when the French decided to ally with Poland. France then decided on a part defensive, part offensive plan, but ended up not having the time or funds to complete either. Yes, a lot of French fought bravely, it was their WW1 Command structure (like all the rest of the European military, except Germany), very poor military intelligence, military leaders, politicians & social divisions that caused the 1940 disaster, not the front line troops. One of the reasons the Dunkirk evacuation of French & British troops was possible, was the way the French 1st Army fought to hold off the Germans.

[@timonsolus]

Actually, most French tanks in 1939 were designed to have strong armour. But the only cost effective way to build large numbers of strongly armoured tanks in the pre-war period, while minimizing weight and having acceptable mobility from small pre-war engines, was to make the tanks relatively small. This was achieved by severely limiting internal space inside the tank, which limited the number of crew members that could fit inside. This forced the French tank crew members to perform multiple roles. A consequence of this was the one-man turrets of many French tanks. It should be remembered that the majority of German tanks in 1939-40 were the small Panzer I and Panzer II, which also had 2 or 3 man crews. The French R35 and H38 tanks had thicker armour than these German tanks, and bigger guns as well. Their real downfall was a severe shortage of radios.

[@nickmitsialis]

No not the soldiers, but the political leadership's nerve failed. They ALSO remembered the bloodshed of WW1 and were probably afraid to repeat it. Along with that, while the Germany/USSR pact was holding, French leftists caused lots of problems for France up to May 1940 (labor problems in the production and repair facilities etc, if not full on industrial sabotage). It was said that France had a lot of societal issues at the time, that added to the problems

[@hmmjedi]

Alwys good to hear about history as no matter how much you think you know there is always more out there... another excellent video...

[@showtime112]

I'm happy to hear that you liked it! True, there's always more to learn.

[@bjornsmith9431]

Showtime112 French aviators are hardly mention in World War 2 books or t.v programs .

[@showtime112]

That's true, their role is overshadowed by many other nations. But there was a lot going on there.

[@jukeseyable]

@@showtime112 how about some 303 sdn action. many thx, loving the channel

[@laurentdevaux5617]

@@showtime112 Yes ! The French aviators shot down more than 1 000 German aircraft. A sizeable amount which lacked when the Luftwaffe attacked England

[@durandil]

When you watch the movie Dunkirk, there's not even french in France...

[@laurentdevaux5617]

@@durandil This film is a total shame ! Everybody serious knows that without the sacrifice of the French army, the Brits wouldn't have saved so many men from death or capture. Germans and even Churchill praised the resistance of the French army in Dunkirk !

[@bjmccann1]

I enjoy your videos. Not only are they interesting to watch, but each one is an enlightening history lesson.

[@Le_Picard]

more stuff about the funny war plsssssss !!!!!! and as always a very nice video, thx for your amazing job

[@showtime112]

I appreciate your positive comment. Stay tuned for more!

[@nickmitsialis]

I even remember a 'period interview of Molders after the dogfight: for a split second, his reaction to seeing those tracers flying at him was 'Why are they shooting at me? What I do to them?" before realizing that, well, they're at war.

[@showtime112]

Oh yeah, that little thing 😁 Our minds can be funny that way sometimes.

[@therealmp40]

This is awesome, rarely do people talk about air combat encounters in Europe during WW2 before the Battle of Britain, especially down to such detail

[@showtime112]

Thank you! True, the BoB seems to be the first campaign which is analyzed and known in detail.

[@rogerkay8603]

Would love to hear more, especially the exploits of the Dutch Air Force against the Luftwaffe!

[@showtime112]

Thank you for the feedback! Yes, the Dutch campaign is an interesting and poorly known one. I think the assets are available and there are sources which provide information. All it takes is for me to decide to cover it 😁

[@jimsaintamour2]

Yes! This is another cool and not highly covered topic. It would be interesting to see more about the Phony War air battles

[@showtime112]

I appreciate your feedback. Quite a number of viewers has already shown interest in this topic.

[@cannonfodder4376]

The exploits of the French Air Force do deserve more screen time, let down by underinvestment and late to modernize they nevertheless gave a good account for themselves. Good video.

[@showtime112]

Thank you for another comment! This episode of WW2 certainly deserves more attention and understanding.

[@janmale7767]

@@cannonfodder4376 yes the French did get a raw deal in WW-2, the quick defeat robbed them of showing their marshall talents and design ingeniuty! The Char - B tank and Dewoitine fighter were examples of early war French design quality !

[@i.setyawan]

I knew barely anything about the French air force during the 2nd world War. Also, I didn't know that there were a lot of action in the air during the phoney war. Thanks for covering the subject!

[@TOMCATnbr]

More than 1000 german planes were shot down over France in 39-40. Those will miss deeply to the german during the battle of britain. France was also the first country of the war to bomb Berlin during WW2. A daring raid by the Jules Verne.

[@showtime112]

Most people only have limited knowledge about the French involvement. I actually learned a lot doing research for this video. Thank you for another comment!

[@GlokEsP]

Excellent camera work and editing :P

[@showtime112]

I'm glad you appreciate it!

[@johnforsyth7987]

Thank you for your excellent video. I would love to see more videos about aerial combat during this period of time.

[@showtime112]

Thanks a lot! I hope to cover more of that.

[@stephenlightfoot9627]

Thanx. I love stuff from the early corners of the war.

[@showtime112]

I'm happy to hear it, thank you for watching and commenting!

[@kaa13]

That was very interesting and well made, thank you ! Werner Mölders was shot down a second time by French Air Force D.520s and made POW during the batlle of France some month later.

[@showtime112]

Thank you for the comment! Yes, Mölders had a similar experience later.

[@Phill87Cro]

This video made me finally start building my Hawk 75 1/48 model kit 😁 Great video as usual!

[@showtime112]

I keep inspiring modellers :) Thanks for the positive comment!

[@alejandrocasalegno1657]

Somebody did say "Who prepared in the last victory is preparing for the next defeat"

[@jeannezehner9450]

Thank you very much for this video. Dominique sent it to me, and it's true France was in big economic crisis since 1931. We made excellent aircraft like the Morane Saulnier 406 or the Dewoitine 520, but our industry couldn't produce it very fast due to the social trouble that we had on 1936 with the popular front. I didn't know that we had bought a such quantity of this american aircraft, for filling the gap. This episod is during the "Drôle de guerre", when we didn't want to invade the german territory due to the Maginot line. We believed that this fortification line protect us against a german invasion, they have passed by the Ardennes where the Maginot line was not enough powerfull.

[@dominiqueroudier9401]

Salut Jeanne et bon anniversaire 🎂. J'espère que tu prends le temps d'apprécier cette vidéo. Le H75 sous couleurs de vichy en Afrique du Nord a combattu pendant opération Torch en novembre 42 contre des...F4F wildcat 😮😮

[@jeannezehner9450]

@@dominiqueroudier9401 Merci. Je rentre sur Paris ce soir. Malheureusement ce genre de scène est arrivé en Syrie contre les britanniques.

[@dominiqueroudier9401]

@@jeannezehner9450 le H75 et le D520 ont combattu les F4F-4 wildcat de USN et Sea hurricane et Seafire de la Fleet air arm pendant Torch, beaucoup de casse des 2 côtés. Je vais essayer de te retrouver une bataille anecdotique déroulée en printemps 45 en Norvège . C'était wildcat FM2 Martlet vs Me109G 6.!!!! Le résultat fut étonnant car la Luftwaffe ne connaissais pas vraiment le zinc, Les pilotes anglais ont utilisé la même tactique que le Zéro, c'est à dire amener l'ennemi dans la zone d'efficace du chasseur. Donc dogfight à basse vitesse moyenne ou basse altitude. Les 6x12,7mm du wildcat ont autant fait des dégâts que si c'était un Hellcat ou Mustang qui avait ouvert le feu. Conclusion 4 G6 abattu, le cinquième endommagé et crashe a atterrissage

[@showtime112]

Hello again and I believe happy birthday! :) Yes, some of the mindset was a bit too 'static' for 1940s. I'll definitely revisit this period and this topic in the future.

[@dominiqueroudier9401]

​@@showtime112 yes ,today Jeanne"s birthday!!! Me, just tuesday 1st october 😬

[@pedrofalcaoseixas2073]

More phoney war aerial battles please 🙏

[@showtime112]

Thank you for the feedback!

[@jdsaldivar5606]

82ND Showtime is my friend...you better check yourself. There is nothing phoney here...

[@pedrofalcaoseixas2073]

@@jdsaldivar5606 “phoney war” is a period during 2nd world war (sep39-jun40) I wasn’t calling him phoney

[@jdsaldivar5606]

@@pedrofalcaoseixas2073 Hola!! I learned something new today...thanks.

[@jdsaldivar5606]

@@pedrofalcaoseixas2073 Hola!! I learned something new...thanks.

[@Cuccos19]

Curtiss P-36 / Hawk 75 was not that hopeless fighter what many thinks. Compared to the Spitfire by the Brits, the Curtiss showed better maneuverability and much better diving speed and control at high speeds. I cannot recall the climb, but the horizontal speed was considerably less. Also range was something better for the Curtiss. It got some early versions of the Pratt and Whitney R-1830 Twin Wasp and the Wright R-1820 Cyclone, and usually had only light machine guns in foreign service, still had acceptable early war firepower. The airframe was sturdy and could withstand battle damages. The biggest problem was the rookie pilots who flew it, as both the Germans and Japanese had battle hardened pilots, aces. French used them as every other types too during Operation Torch against the Allied forces... with not a great success.

[@showtime112]

It's true that P-36 still could be more than useful early in the War. I'll cover some more of its use in France but probably also on the Finnish front.

[@timonsolus]

The Bf 109D and the early Bf 109E-1 also had an armament of 4 rifle calibre light machine guns.

[@Cuccos19]

@@timonsolus Yes, they had (although some pre-E models had maybe some MG/FF, but maybe that was only small batch or some experimenting with the cannon). E-3 had the MG/FF in the wings, and some experimenting with a nose cannon, but with unsatisfying results, than cannon frequently jammed. The E-4 got the MG/FF-M.

[@TheIndianalain]

Thank you for reminding everybody that the Phoney War goes beyond the Battle of Rio de la Plata and the Norway campaign ;-)

[@showtime112]

Thank you for watching!

[@TheGrant65]

Thank you @Showtime112, the air battle of France is fascinating and was, in some ways, a rare early success for the Allies. While the Luftwaffe was victorious, it suffered enough losses and lost time to make its job over Britain that much more difficult.

[@showtime112]

Thank you for watching and commenting! The campaign certainly deserves some more attention than it usually gets.

[@jwhoward182]

Excellent work! Love this episode! Keep ‘em coming

[@showtime112]

Thank you very much! Stick around for more.

[@25foxbat1]

Molders - he requested to meet the pilot who shot him down after he was captured

[@MostHigh777]

I've studied the Battle of France in 1940 and one little known fact is that the professional French military actually was quite successful against the Germans. The problem was lack of successful doctrine and constant political in fighting amongst the French command structure.

[@showtime112]

Thank you for providing additional information!

[@williamcollins4373]

Another awesome video!! I am interested in seeing another video!

[@showtime112]

Thank you for commenting! There will be more.

[@chups1447]

Nice work, thanks

[@showtime112]

Thanks Chups!

[@Duke-225]

Great work. I really enjoyed this one.

[@showtime112]

I appreciate your view and comment!

[@sailordude2094]

Thanks, great history! I enjoyed seeing how the Hawk did in combat!

[@showtime112]

Thank you very much! An interesting airplane that did rather well on many occasions.

[@Riccardo_Silva]

Very interesting topic Showtime! Go on! Well, i'd watch your great vids anyways😄!

[@guidor.4161]

Definitely, this is pretty much forgotten.

[@chrisdebeyer1108]

Excellent depiction from opening shots of a long war. Very interested in this era. Luftwaffe raids in France as well.

[@showtime112]

Thank you for the positive comment! I hope to cover the Battle of France as well.

[@clivevanzyl3287]

Great show 👍👍

[@showtime112]

Thank you for watching!

[@branka4226]

Another great video, thanks 😊

[@showtime112]

Hvala na komentaru!

[@thecitizen49]

Great video!!

[@ClaudiusCaelum]

I scale modeled a French Curtis Hawk Radial engine fighter a while back... I liked big 1:32 scale and there were no French fighters available in that scale, but there was one crude American Hawk model kit available... I was able to refine it by using 1:32 Warhawks and Kittyhawks parts like machine guns bays and more detailed cockpit... The hard part was finding French decals, lol Now they have Dewoitine D.520 and Maurane Saulnier MS 410 kits in 1:32... Wish i was still scale modeling, lol

[@showtime112]

I did some modeling decades ago. I sometimes think it would be cool to try it again but my apartment is not big enough for it 😁

[@ClaudiusCaelum]

@@showtime112 "my apartment is not big enough for it" When i moved from a house to an apartment, that's when my modeling 'career' stopped... Still, i have a 4 1/2, and i debated making my spare room an atelier or a guest room... I opted for a guest room mostly because it's not just about having room to build them, you need room to store them...Did you know they make a 1:32 B-17 and Lancaster now !! I knew i couldn't help myself from buying those, and they are HUGE !! I'm talking 3' wingspan here, lol Also, having scaled modeled yourself, you know it's not just buying the models that is costly in the hobby ( $500 CDN for a HK Models Lancaster ) it's buying the tools, paint, and spare 'detailing' parts ( like Eduards photo etched ) That being said, when i pass across a KZbin vlog about 1:32 WWII model building, the bug keep biting back, lol Thank you for the reply !!

[@kurnuyt5742]

Keep up the good work i"d say, can't wait to see the upcoming video about the Phony War.

[@showtime112]

Thank you for the comment and feedback!

[@durandil]

1) It was harder to fight french pilots instead of russian pilots 😁 2) the H-75 was seen inferior to the Bf109E, but the H-75 shot down more Bf109 than the opposite 3) France also bought some P-40s called H-81 but the USA never delivered them to France. Imagine a plane like the H-75 but faster and with .50 cal machineguns. Seeing how the german pilots suffered against the H-75, they would have been oblitarated against the H-81. And France also bought some P-38s... that never came. 4) All those german pilots and planes missing the Battle of Britain... After saving the british army in Dunkirk, the UK should be gretaful for these french pilots

[@rogerkay8603]

and we are, but De Gaulle could have showed some class later when the war was done.

[@showtime112]

Thanks for contributing data. German invasion of France was definitely not a walk in the park. Even though it's seen as a great victory, it still cost them dearly and I intend to cover some more of that story here.

[@InquisitorTyrus]

I’m very glad to see finally some videos showing the airfight during the campaign of France in 1940 ! My grandfather was a bomber pilot in 1940 when France surrendered in June 1940 he quickly joined the free French forces and in North Africa served again as a bomber pilot in 1941 until 1945. I still have his photos album from this period. Could be great to hear more about the “Normandie Niemen” it’s an impressive story to tell too.

[@showtime112]

Thank you for sharing your experience. There will certainly be more videos from this campaign. Were you able to talk to your grandfather about his wartime service?

[@InquisitorTyrus]

⁠@@showtime112sadly no he got Alzheimer’s early in his life and I was too young and therefore never had the chance to talk with him about that even if every time we saw him at his rest house he asked us ; “did you had any trouble passing the Germans lines ?” But when he died my grandmother gave me his photo album of that time, and there is numerous photos inside of his life in North Africa including destroyed Germans vehicles , his bomber and all the crews and maintenance’s servicemen I even have several African mask and tusks of warthog all engraved that he brought back with the location he got them and the years 1941-42 engraved too. I did ask both my grandmother and my mother if he spoke about the war but he actually didn’t he would only spoke of Africa itself how the life was there, the food (he did eaten monkeys and crocodiles and told it was pretty good ! ) or the tribes he’d encountered but never spoke of the war.

[@sohrabroozbahani4700]

There's a new visually impressive cold war naval sim coming up, the sea power, i imagine you can put it to good use when it finally hits the market proper...

[@showtime112]

True, I'm following the development. Other stuff is coming too and there won't be a shortage of assets or good stories to cover.

[@MartinLopez-zs9il]

I am interessting inthis period of the campaign. Thank you for your videos.

[@showtime112]

Thank you for the positive feedback!

[@kenbb99]

I would like more content on this period of the war. This period is neglected in favor of the Battle of Britain.

[@showtime112]

I appreciate your feedback! It is definitely true that the BoB is receiving A LOT more attention than what came before it.

[@moxie_ST]

Interested I am 🎉 Show us more from that period of early WW2. And gaijin wtf about us old players, we do not deserve any love for our log time support?

[@showtime112]

Thank you very much for the feedback! The topic deserves some love. As for Gaijin, commenting their policies could develop into a full scale discussion 😁

[@victorhovat3954]

Information on the air war over France 1940 is hard to come by , please do more !

[@showtime112]

Thank you for the comment, there will be more.

[@andrewmorke]

Your content is excellent!

[@showtime112]

Glad you think so, thank you!

[@DataWaveTaGo]

Once again - Top notch production, presentation & history preservation. I particularly enjoy your calm, undramatic, naration technique. Thank you for the many in depth and even handed presentations!

[@showtime112]

Thank you very much for this excellent feedback! The calm, undramatic narration technique is probably the reason why doesn't get nearly as many viewers as some others 🤣 But there's an audience for everything.

[@TheLincolnshireFlyer]

Very interested in this era

[@showtime112]

Thank you for the feedback! More will come.

[@geordiedog1749]

The ‘Phoney War’ was not remotely ‘boring’ for many combatants outside of the Western armies. The UK Merchant Navy, for eg, the war was in earnest from day one. The colliers on the North East coast supplying coal to the South of England is a part of the war that’s forgotten about. They were attacked by air and sea constantly and had very little help bar some old naval guns stamped 1898 fitted in the rear (guns at the front of a ship were considered ‘offensive armament’ and forbidden on merchant ships) and a WWII vintage Savage gun for defence gains air attack. The RAF, as usual, were useless, too.

[@showtime112]

True, a lot was happening at sea during this period.

[@akacadian3714]

This good stuff. Have you done any or done any research on the air battles of the Spanish Civil War? Frank Tinker American mercenary had few victories for the Republicans flying Soviet Pi 16.

[@showtime112]

Thank you! I haven't yet covered any Spanish Civil War but I plan to. Your suggestion might be interesting. I might also do some general videos covering foreign involvements (such as what did the Italians do there, or the Soviets...).

[@akacadian3714]

@@showtime112 I came across Tinker's story after reading a book about the Spanish Civil War (SCW) and the International Brigades. Tinker unlike the volunteers for the International BDEs was not political but straight mercenary he just wanted to shoot down planes. Tinker was a USN pilot and later US Army Air Corps in the 1930s. with a history of discipline issues. He is sort of a character that was a friend of Ernest Hemmingway's in Madrid during the SCW. I think he maybe the only American to have been victorious flying Soviet aircraft. I am sure this historic background is not the meat of you material but I really like your work.

[@madhukarjonathanminj2772]

@@akacadian3714 No not the only one, i think there was one more who also later flew in ww2 and then became an ace, dont recall the name though, i do remember reading that this individual also served in the Korean war but in the ground because his Spanish Civil war record was not appreciated by the US airforce

[@xvg3980]

@@showtime112 You also have a movie : "L'espoir" from A. Malraux : "escadrilla España".

[@mharcsa]

Why with weels, isn`t it belly landing safer when not sure about surface you are landing on? Jagdgeschwader 54 "Grünherz" lost more then a few pilots in a FW 190 that way on the eastern front.

[@showtime112]

Hard to say, Mölders might have misjudged the terrain.

[@leonardwilliams8109]

Great videos!

[@showtime112]

Thank you, I'm glad you like the content!

[@rodolphdavid3217]

Oui Monsieur Sowtime 112,des épisodes sur la bataille de France sont les bienvenus 😊. Un ami de France qui apprécie vos vidéos.

[@showtime112]

Thank you for the feedback! I definitely want to cover this some more.

[@centaur1a]

Have you thought of doing a WW1 animation?

[@showtime112]

Yes. I'm not sure what exactly but for starters, I've recently purchased 'Flying Circus Volume I' as it was on sale 😁 I might try a topic like Theo Osterkamp, fighter ace in both World Wars.

[@ghostb9339]

Really nice video, especially considering the scarce information on this specific period ow WWII. Eager to see more details on the topic from you.

[@showtime112]

Thank you! I'm thinking about doing another video covering this campaign soon.

[@leonardwilliams8109]

Werner Molders wS shot down by a French Hawk 75.

[@RealDarko]

Nice representation of a lesser know fact of WW2.

[@showtime112]

Thank you very much once again!

[@MarceloBorba-t5m]

Excellent video as usual!! Thanks a lot!

[@showtime112]

I'm happy to hear it, thank you!

[@VenlyssPnorr]

Anyone who enjoyed this needs to read Christopher Shores' excellent 'Fledgling Eagles'

[@showtime112]

Thank you for the suggestion!

[@wsmccallum5069]

I have long loved the Curtiss Hawk - it's the forgotten fighter plane of WWII. It's great to see this clip - more please.

[@showtime112]

This airplane seems to have quite a few fans :) Thank you for the comment!

[@paulosilva3350]

It was Werner Molders.

[@showtime112]

Don't spoil it 😁

[@razorback20]

Superb video, Showtime. 🥰 And if you really plan on covering more action that occured during the Phoney War, I think the famous "9 vs 27" dogfight that took place on 1939, november 6th will be mandatory. 😉

[@showtime112]

Thank you for the positive feedback! I'll write your suggestion down to research.

[@williamkoppos7039]

Very good vid. The Hawk was a good match for the 109D, the earlier jumo engined model. In November 21 109D's jumped 9 Hawks, the French pilots shot down 4 Germans and 4 others force or crash landed. One Hawk force landed. When well flown the Curtiss 75 could be quite dangerous.

[@showtime112]

Thank you very much for the feedback!

[@स्वस्ति-renyks]

Great reconstruction! I believe Mölders should have landed with the landing gear retracted.

[@showtime112]

Thank you very much! Yes, he probably made a wrong call there.

[@ratagris21]

Was wondering will you cover the Green Leader assault on Communist camps by Rhodesian AIr Force?

[@showtime112]

Perhaps. We have the Canberra (I think that airplane was used). Not sure about other assets, I'd have to research a bit. Thanks for the suggestion!

[@jeffrogge8597]

I, too, would like to hear about that

[@ratagris21]

@@showtime112 yw

[@VC27]

Excellent work, as usual!

[@showtime112]

Thank you for the comment and for being a subscriber for such a long time!

[@aleksandarljubenovic347]

Odlican video komsija! Dobar izbor aviona i asa. Ljudi koje zanima vazduhoplovstvo uglavnom neznaju da P36 (Hawk 75 izvozna verzija) ima pozitivan skor u sudaru sa Nemcima, vise oborenih aviona u odnosu na izgubljene). PS: Imam P36 Hawk, 1941.god., Burmansko ratiste, razmera 1:48, maketa AMT-ERTL. P36 je osnova svih kasnijih P40.

[@showtime112]

Zahvaljujem na komentaru! Hawk je definitivno jedan od 'zaboravljenih' lovaca 2. svjetskog rata i svakako planiram još malo pričati o njemu. Maketarstvo, moja stara ljubav :)

[@BruceK10032]

Very interested in more of this!

[@showtime112]

Thank you for the feedback!

[@Legesse_Tefera_fan]

Amazing to see the Hawk! I would love to see you do a video featuring Vichy Hawks vs USN Wildcats during Torch or even more obscure Thai flown Hawks vs French & later the US.

[@vonbraunwerner9067]

There is also Pomier-Layrargues shooting down Werner Moelders near Beauvais, June 5, 1940. A tragic victory, as the french pilot was shot down in flames a few minutes later.

[@eduardodeandres3864]

Hola. Sí por favor más reportajes de este tipo. Gracias

[@showtime112]

Thank you, I appreciate the comment!

[@luizfernandolessa1889]

Excelente. Parabéns por trazer o trabalho de bons pilotos, independente da nação. 👍🏽🇧🇷

[@showtime112]

Thank you for your positive comment! Greetings to Brasil!

[@waveranger4974]

Excellente!

[@showtime112]

Thank you very much for the comment!

[@rafaelaldana1503]

Great video!!!

[@showtime112]

Thank you very much!

[@1joshjosh1]

This is going to F****** rule !!

[@showtime112]

I appreciate your enthusiasm 😁

[@deck614]

Mölders was finally shot down by sous-lieutenant Pommier-Leyrargues (aged 19, in his first and last combat) on a Dewoitine 520. WM was made prisoner.

[@showtime112]

I definitely have to cover that story as well!

[@deck614]

@@showtime112 It shall be an emotional story. Some places and streets in French airbases are named after this young guy...

[@Otokichi786]

3:40 Back to the H75 Hawk vs. the Bf-109E.

[@sergeyvekhov1432]

Thanks for battle of France topic. Wish it will be continued!

[@jean-Pierre-bt8xw]

How courageous a victory to have pursuited an unarmed plane !

[@showtime112]

Recon airplanes provide valuable information which can then be used by units that actually shoot. I read an autobiography of a Soviet P-39 ace and he said that their ground troops were especially happy when their fighters were able to shoot down Fw-189s. Appearance of one such plane meant they would soon be targeted by artillery.

[@jean-Pierre-bt8xw]

@@showtime112 I don't said the opposite.. .excepted that when began the WWII, there were some unofficial" rules... they were dating from WWI where fighte pilots were considered and were considering themselves as "Knights"... One of the rule was that when an unarmed plane was to flee far after the first passage, then he was free to run away... I know it was not true war rule but a true engagement rule, commonly applied in WWI and many did apply it even in WWII, like the american bomber totally out of order to fight and protected by a german BF 109 till the Channel to avoid other germans or the german flak to destroy it definitvely... then in this case against an unarmed slow biplan, the german was far from being a Knight.

[@lupodimontenero661]

As always a great video, thank you, as a WT veteran the H75 is a plane that I like a lot (even if on WT the Me 109E1 has, for unknown reasons, a better turn rate than the Curtiss ^^ and there are no single-engine French reconnaissance aircraft like the Mureaux, which you rightly replaced with a D371) ^__* an old battle (4 yrs ago) kzbin.info/www/bejne/fanZZHSjba2CiNk&ab_channel=LupodiMontenero

[@showtime112]

Thank you very much! The French recon plane is a stand-in. I suppose War Thunder will never introduce recon airplanes 😁 But they could work under some circumstances, new game elements could be introduced such as points for locating enemy ground units or bases.

[@lupodimontenero661]

@@showtime112 unfortunately (for me ^^) currently WT seems to be focused on modern jets and tanks, ^^ a real shame for me who loves planes from the 1930-1939 period; for this reason I hope you will also make some videos on conflicts from that period, for example on the Chaco War

[@showtime112]

@@lupodimontenero661 True, there are still plenty of holes in low tiers. They could add 'zero rank' with some airplanes from that period. Regarding the Chaco War, I'm not sure if those assets are available.

[@lupodimontenero661]

@@showtime112 I imagined they were not available, ^^ I have to be patient, I will console myself by watching your videos ^^

[@Ivous]

Na H 75 létalo i Československé letecké eso v bitvě o Francii František Peřina ..Dokonce si byl nucen jeden Hawk 75 ,,přivlastnit" a přeletět s ním moře po kapitulaci Francie

[@showtime112]

It's well known that many Czech and Polish pilots flew for the RAF. Fact that they flew in France too is overlooked. I hope to cover that in the future.

[@pzdmc4d]

why D version Edit: talking about JG 53 sequence? except that, awesome

[@showtime112]

According to the sources I could find, Gutbrod was flying a D model. That could be wrong, they are not always accurate. There were a bunch of units flying this older model in 1939 but I believe they upgraded to E by the Invasion time.

[@pzdmc4d]

@@showtime112 I was talking about JG 53, but let me check it first, I have a book with all missions these times so I will check it there, I will let you know.

[@pzdmc4d]

@@showtime112 Hey, I checked the book, and JG 53 /Moelders flew Emils

[@georgejpg]

The phony war did have ground movement and action. There were about 2700 total casualties during the Saar offensive, which had just started the day before this action took place.

[@ogiblitz7203]

Is it true that the German losses on the first day of the battle on the western front on May 10, 1940 were about 250 planes, which were the German losses in the entire Polish campaign?

[@doiniqueabdel8171]

One of my uncle was called Robert Battut and has been shot down in 1940, he was flying on Dewoitine 520 or Morane 406, i don't know. May be could you find some informations about him. Thanks.

[@puebespuebes8589]

Are there some notable ms.406 vs bf109 fight ? I heard a french veteran talking about an engagement betwen a d520 and a formation of german bomber and their escort. Apparently the d520 could both roll and dive faster than the bf-109

[@showtime112]

Oh yes. French pilots claimed 187 German airplanes shot down, not sure how many among them were Bf-109s but there were many. I'm gonna cover some of that too. Finns achieved a number of kills too. D520 was pretty good but not enough of them were available.

[@JoeCool_1962]

Excellent French fighters were hindered by their poor 3-ships tactics, but German pilots were not as ready in late 1939 as they will be in spring 40, unfortunately… Yes as a French viewer, I’m very interested by any videos involving French air forces

[@showtime112]

Thank you for the positive comment! I definitely want to cover some more of the Battle for France in the future.

[@chriscarbaugh3936]

Highly interested 👍

[@showtime112]

I appreciate your feedback!

[@janmale7767]

Very good looks like those curtis Hawks could dance the boogie woogie, slower and less of a climber/ diver than the bf 109 but the hawk could do the two step and all the other steps combined to avoid the hot pointy stuff! 😂🤪👍

[@showtime112]

Thank you for the comment! Hawks could do rather well at this stage of the War.

[@kkteutsch6416]

Nobody even skilled can be 100% safe, a lot of top record german pilot were downed and survived to return to fight...

[@showtime112]

Exactly, some of them multiple times.