Which Head is Best For You? Callaway Apex 21 or Mizuno JPX 921 HM Pro

[@geoffbridgeman4625]

My first time watching one of your videos and it won’t be the last! Really liked the insight into the fitting process and what impact different shafts/heads had on performance

[@SwingFit]

Thanks for the feedback

[@johnknobbe8247]

Great end of video tip. It reminds me to not get lazy in the backswing

[@legend9018]

Great video, could not agree more. I tried the Modus 120 shaft in the Srixon ZX5 and the Cobra Forged Tec head and it performed totally differently. Could not believe that.

[@Gwillis7]

Just found this channel, love it. So much info and tons of info/education here

[@SwingFit]

thanks for sharing, and the support

[@billsinclair313]

Love my HM pro’s. My fitter nailed the shaft and set up. Both great irons, shaft is so important. I am now in my late 60’s and can now hit the distances I was hitting 30 years ago with my forged Mizuno’s. Stronger loft helped also.

[@SwingFit]

it’s so nice to hear how you was able to reclaim some missing yards. Best of luck this season.

[@eymun]

Damn this was really well done. This channel will grow fast!!

[@orangeblue789]

I got fitted and going in, I favored the Callaway Apex. Walking aways, I purchased JPX 921 HM Pro. The feel and the numbers told me it was the club for me.

[@SwingFit]

Definitely a really good head especially when you factor in the price difference, it’s like a 500.00 instant savings…

[@johnguillaume5919]

Thank you. You clearly know your craft. I’m writing to share my observation with club fittings and curious what your take is…perhaps a video topic unto itself. I’ve been fit by my club, Club Champion, and 2nd Swing and I’ve walked away from each of them with more questions than answers. In one of those experiences I was fitted to X-Stiff shafts only to have them all replaced after playing with them after a few months. There are two problems I’ve observed with fittings that the general public receives: 1) Can’t fit a proper fitting in a 60-minute window. It seems to go like this - after a 5-10 min warm-up, try a 3-5 head and shafts combinations + my own gamers. Compare some basic numbers (with 5ish shots) for each combination like distance and dispersion and then the hours up and time to make a decision. No dialing -in and tweaking and tweaking further like you’ve described. 2) The fitter is no-where near as knowledgeable as you are…I have never received much insight beyond the basics. I’ve read enough to feel like I know as much as they do but I’m going to a professional fitter that is supposed to take me to the next level…just hasn’t happened for me. Here’s my question: What is the proper way to get fit? Is it a multi-event effort or should all of this be able to happened within an hour? I’m not suggesting getting fit for an entire new bag in an hour but even a driver, in my own experience, takes more than an hour.

[@SwingFit]

We allow 90minutes for every session so call it 10min. To warmup, 60min to find the right solution, 15-20min to fine tune, be it weights, SW, Grip, loft, lie and adapters. It’s just that important. The other thing we do is we provide a complimentary post fit session for every fitting, this way when our customers pick up we will test again to make sure. I truly believe the extra time and the post fit is the real secret to walking away with an unbelievable result. Thanks for sharing and the kind words.

[@ahoop24]

Solid vid! Really seeing an improvement in the videos and like these actual fit reviews.

[@SwingFit]

Thanks for the feedback.

[@SkyboxerGolf]

Another great video.. Really love these.

[@SwingFit]

Thanks bud

[@JSGolfer]

Great insight into a daily fitting, a slight grip change can also do wonders

[@whiskerrub]

Love these videos thru the looking glass profile of your fittings. Well done sir! I will make an observation "tapped out" and "tanked" well you see that is why every studio is defined by it's "Couch Appeal" it's the true beauty of the Power Nap program. 👍😂

[@SwingFit]

So true.

[@banditbaker1675]

I'm loving these Fitting talk throughs and it's great to see the numbers improve as the fit progresses. Totally endorse the deep hip turn tip, Terry Wogan a popular Radio/TV personality and keen Golfer on this side of the pond used to say that the secret of a good swing was "all in the buttocks"!

[@whiskerrub]

This explains the origin of words, thanks Bandit, always wonder why my playing partners described my swing and shots as "a$$".

[@banditbaker1675]

@@whiskerrub LOL

[@rushfanjames2112]

I had the JPX hot metals. Didn’t have the feel I thought it would. Picked up a slightly used set of the Apex 21’s, excellent feel, great distance and forgiving. Than I remembered, the Mizuno irons were cast, not forged. That’s why the feel difference.

[@SwingFit]

So spot on, I will say the 921’s feel better then their peers, but as you eluded it’s still cast…

[@rushfanjames2112]

@@SwingFit For the record: They feel great for being cast. But the Apex 21’s were just better fit for me.

[@wallstreetoneil]

It's the Jack Nicklaus Right Hip Turn that the world forgot about for 50 years when they tried to make every golfer tight, non-athletic & mechanical. Now, every Tour player is again ripping it because a Math Prof wrote a book about Strokes Gained and proved how important driving distance is to lower your score. Eric is a fantastic resource and amazing teacher. Hot Metal Pros are great clubs - I have the 919s weakened by 2 degrees for a 32 7-iron - that's the thing I wish they didn't change with the new ones - the lofts are too strong imo. Nice fitting.

[@SwingFit]

100% thanks for sharing

[@bloombeards812]

Favorite vid so far brother... excellent walk through of just how talented you are and the way a fitter that knows what their doing is able to fully dial in a customer... keep smashing it man!!!

[@dalooch121]

Love my Apex 21 irons.

[@davidmeeks7449]

Would rather see swings and hear the sound of the clubs versus seeing tracers. I thought the HM Pro was a club that didn’t feel great even on nice strikes. Apex a major advantage in that category. The Apex has always been a top performer. I think the ‘21 is the best yet and the ‘19 was already great. I would match the Apex against the 921 Forged more than the Hot Metals.

[@SwingFit]

Thanks for sharing, and I would be inclined to agree with you that the new pro is really more comparable to the tour 921 and the regular apex more to the forged. We just didn’t have the pro at the time of creating this video so we assumed the pro would have been a good comparison. And without question the Apexs is not quite in a league of its own but it just flat out performs, and is definitely a strong contender in any of the fits we do. Thanks again for sharing

[@michaelwainscott576]

An exceptional video.

[@SwingFit]

Thanks for the feedback and support.

[@saintcruzin]

Excellent fitting. I thought the feel of the Callaway’s separated the two.

[@wingnut73johnny]

Any chance you can give visuals of the shafts/heads as you reference them? It’s just fun to see what some of these look like as you are talking about them...just adds an element of depth to what you are presenting. Great content as always!

[@banditbaker1675]

Great suggestion👍

[@SwingFit]

Great suggestion will do.

[@joec.4238]

So at 6:38 you skip right over the part where he's hitting the ball much straighter. I think that's a big deal. How straight was he with the subsequent shafts?

[@SwingFit]

That’s a great point for sure, the other option wasn’t as tight to the center line, and one of the things we should be able to achieve is not only tightness left to right that is but often over looked is tightness up and down meaning I like to see the ball hit a similar launch window more often as well.

[@robo265]

Brilliant thank you

[@bajabirdies9508]

Another great video, and great fit!! look forward to them each week........would love to see a SX7 vs T100 vs JPX 921 Tour if you’re looking for ideas lol...keep up the great work

[@SwingFit]

Thanks for the feedback and suggestions, we’re still waiting on the Titleist stuff, so hope to have it here in a couple of weeks

[@ximenab1384]

Question: Does anyone else have a hard time finding a good fitter. I’ve been fitted 5 times for different clubs at 5 different places. Edwin Watts, PGA Tour Superstore, a couple of local fitters and Club Champion. At each fitting, they asked me beforehand what model I was interested in. At the end of each session, they all recommended the model I was looking at from the start. The chances of the clubs I’m looking at being the best fit for me FIVE times I imagine are slim. Do they just humor you?

[@SwingFit]

Such a really good question, I truly wish there was better uniformity and consistency but the one thing I’ve learned is you can teach someone how to fit but the reality is they truly don’t know how until they gain experience, and unfortunate as it is what you described is what golfers around the globe experience day in and day out. In regards to your question, I do find it odd to a point, what would be cool is for you to do a fitting without expressing any bias and see what they put you in. If you give me a blank canvas I guarantee you will leave with the best options, but the question would be is it the same, inquiring minds would like to know. Thanks for sharing.

[@johnhoie1]

I got fitted at Cool Clubs in Scottsdale, and loved them. I tried 5 different heads and 4 different shafts, and the clubs that fit me best were the Apex 21. Someone else likely would have had a different result.

[@jerrywinters3053]

Nice video I'm looking for new clubs. I'm 62 current clubs are Cleveland ta2 and having a hard time hitting them. Any recommendations thanks

[@SwingFit]

Mizuno 921, Ping 425, or as a wild card maybe even the Srixon Zx4. Big thing we will need to be mindful of is sole width, want to be sure that it doesn’t become a handbreak.

[@waynechalk]

Would love to see a video on downward angle of attack on the driver, keep up the videos bud very knowlegable

[@SwingFit]

Great suggestion and we can definitely tee that one up.

[@HamuelTheGrey]

I have a downward angle of attack on my driver and it spins up to the stratosphere and the wind chooses what to do with it after… wouldn’t recommend

[@GDJ1957]

This is really a great video. Where are you located?

[@SwingFit]

In bunker hill wv just outside of Washington DC. Thanks for the kind words.

[@lindsaynewell6319]

First video. Loved it. Subbed. Curious why Apex (not DCB or blended) and HM Pro (not HM) ? From other reviews it seems DCB might have helped with low strike? I’m upgrading this year from ancient x16s and considering Apex and 921 so hope to see similar improvements to your customer (was 8HI when playing regularly but more like 14 now after 10 years of very little golf).

[@SwingFit]

Very good point about low strike point forgiveness and DCB, they are great but may not be a good fit for certain swing types as a result of the wider sole it can actually slow down your club head speed because of excess turf interaction.

[@mmldr9306]

0:07 Where are you pointing at? Somebody got lazy during editing?

[@SwingFit]

No that’s just my adhd kicking in. 😀

[@johnstetes6436]

Great fitting, I'm also thinking about upgrading my CF16 to either mizuno or CF21 🏌️‍♂️⛳

[@SwingFit]

921 hm pro is a great iron and could save you a little money but only if your lie angle works, if you need 3 up or 3 down maybe not a good fit and new apex for sure would be an unbelievable upgrade.

[@johnstetes6436]

@@SwingFit I'm 2 up plus half inch, I'll definitely try the mizunos during my fitting 🏌️‍♂️⛳ (I was originally fitted 4 Ping g30 irons when they 1st came out, after that it's been pretty much my go to set up (2up + 1/2in)

[@AC-wt6vd]

Fantastic video, one of my favorites for fittings. Quick question, what about the HMP profile gave you the idea to move to it that the Apex profile didn’t have?

[@SwingFit]

Strikepoint, when I have customers that have a tendency to strike it a little lower in the face the 921’s are hard to beat out of the bottom...

[@imasonx]

I’ve been playing for 4 months is it worth me getting fitted for irons yet ? Like the look of hotmetal 921

[@SwingFit]

So it can be, I tell everyone the moment you can get club on ball and 50% of your shots is somewhat going in The same direction then you are ready.

[@Mj-CWO4]

I’m concerned that this setup may work for the 7 iron but what about the 5i or pw.

[@SwingFit]

If the clubs are built properly there shouldn’t be any concerns. Perhaps we’ll touch on that in an upcoming video.

[@Mj-CWO4]

@SwingFit thanks I’d appreciate that since I’ve never been fitted and am going to soon and have concerns

[@GMAYER-ir3fe]

I have just loved this video ! Thanks a lot for all these explanations that help for a much better understanding ! The only thing I don't get is how with the same ballspeed, same launch angle and same spinrate, you can get an extra 4 yards with the jpx ?! Thanks in advance for your answer if you have any. Sorry for my english, I'm french from Reunion Island 😁

[@SwingFit]

Good question strikepoint and cg location. I’ve found the CG location to be just a little lower in the 921.

[@GMAYER-ir3fe]

@@SwingFit thanks a lot !

[@isleofdeath]

Is this Iron7? I get around 5.8k to 6.2k, with some clubs even 6.5k Spin....

[@SwingFit]

Yes sir this was a 7!iron.

[@johnkraus5454]

I'm a lefty so my choice is easy...Callaway all day. Mizuno hates lefties.

[@SwingFit]

I don’t know why either.

[@stevesmith866]

A 15 handicapper having trouble “squaring up the clubface” ???? Really?

[@SwingFit]

Not sure if you are agreeing that squaring up the club face is a challenge for a 15 handicapper or if your implying that a 15 handicapper shouldn’t have any problem with doing that. Regardless of which I will say even the best in the world struggle with squaring the face up, if they didn’t no one would ever miss the fairway or green, and my job as the fitter is to simply help individuals square it up easier…Thanks for sharing.

[@bradganz6787]

Blah blah blah get on with it.