Which is Better? - Civ V or Civ VI

Civilisation VI is, undoubtedly, a very popular game. However, there was a core group of Civilisation fans that did not like the new tone and style and they flocked back to its predecessor.
Are we going to definitively settle the issue here today? Probably not, but is here is my two cents as I ponder the question 'Which is Better - Civ V or Civ VI'?

[@57mac01]

I dont mind the leaders in civ 6, theyre kinda charming honestly. for me its the brightly colored, toyish looking world map and the gui

[@TheWagonroast]

use the civ 5 reskin mod

[@hungrymusicwolf]

On the civ V diplomacy, leaders have agenda's and personalities too and you can look them up on the wiki. It isn't that diplomacy isn't a big part of the game, it's just that it is too hidden for most to realize. AI manipulation is a strategy all of its own that can singlehandedly win you games, and be your single anti-war strategy for an entire Deity tier game.

[@strattom1759]

I don't know why, but KZbin has only just deigned to show me this comment, but I thought it was a good one, so I'll respond. I'm in a constant struggle between games being hard to master and them simply not being transparent enough. Perhaps your right, perhaps I haven't given Civ V's diplomacy its proper due, but that is the fault of the game's design to keep it so hidden. So it's still a flaw in my mind.

[@hungrymusicwolf]

@@strattom1759 I agree. I did not find out about AI diplomacy until I tried an interesting strategy from a forum that both explained and required it. A religion, piety based, small and intentionally not tall. The entire anti-war strategy is to use having the same religion for your neighbors, traded recently, and pitting neighbors that are becoming a threat against each other by paying off a warmonger to fight that guy. Ever since then diplomacy has been an integral part of how I keep immortal and deity enemies at bay until I am ready to fight them. A 5g per turn gift (just trading it for nothing) at the right time can turn a threat into an ally. (This gives the traded recently bonus in your relationship with them).

[@57mac01]

he also didnt mention the world congress at all, and thats how you get the diplomatic victory (in civ 5 at least idk about civ 6)

[@grantsrun7464]

I think the biggest turn off for me from Civ VI is the graphics. I just really enjoy the are style of Civ V a lot better, and I was never able to pick-up Civ VI because of the visuals.

[@dbrikashabukshan8673]

then use the civ5 graphics mod, retextures everything in civ6 to better match civ5

[@olivierconstant9997]

Agreed, Civ VI graphics are shit. Even Civ IV has better graphics.

[@bahabelhajamor7447]

Played both The gameplay of 5 was a major turn off what do you mean i can only have a 4 city empire for most of the game In terms of gameplay civ 6 is waaaaaay better In terms of graphics yeah civ 5 is better

[@grantsrun7464]

@@bahabelhajamor7447 Yeah Civ VI has some cool in depth things that elevate it in terms of pure gameplay. Like I said, it is just the graphics for me lol.

[@Woodsnat]

@@bahabelhajamor7447we’ll worry not because there is a mod for just the thing, just find the workshop page for Civ 6 and you can download it right away and have the old Civ 5 graphics back

[@superpantman]

I'm still playing CIV5 in 2023. CIV6, like you say, looks like a mobile game and none of the reviews I've seen make me feel like I'm missing out by sticking to 5.

[@Ralphinsc]

I have thousands and thousands of hours in Civ 5 and keep coming back to it again. I lost all interest in really playing through Civ 6 a couple hundred hours in. Civ 5 to me had that snowball effect where the culture, science, religion, finances, and choices could all stack up and build momentum into an avalanche of steamrolling through the late game. I never got that feel with Civ 6. Oddly enough, I still come back and play Civ 3 more than Civ 6; especially some of the scenarios.

[@Frilleon]

I have thousands of hours in Civ 5 and 3.

[@lt.lasereyez8891]

Currently playing Call to Power again, I know I know not really a Civ game

[@arizahmad9850]

I do love the SimCity aspect of Civ 5, where getting as much luxuries and improving them in your borders were really important. Civ 6 just doesn't have that.

[@sjoerdbrouwer9822]

I think that civ 5 and 6 have become too different to directly compare anymore. At this point I believe it's a matter of personal taste

[@Terribly_Grimm]

Agree, Civ5 better supports playing Tall while Civ6 better supports playing Wide

[@Crispy-Chips]

Each game could probably have its own sense of art style. But if we get another"mobile game" graphic design in the next civ game, there's a problem.

[@shoddypeasant8762]

agreed, the play styles required are very different, in civ6 you have to build wide, whilst in civ5 the game encourages you to build tall 4 - 6 super cities

[@onemanarmy2electricboogalo687]

@@Crispy-Chips yeah I didn't like how they chose the civ Rev art style for civ 6

[@anyoneatall3488]

@@shoddypeasant8762 i hear this a lot and as a civ vi player who hasn't played civ v i just don't get what the fun of playing tall is when the district mechanic is nonexistent

[@unknownPLfan]

Sean Bean still dies in the opening cinematics. He plays the father character in the original opening cinematic.

[@strattom1759]

Well, it is tradition that he should

[@librafrankie]

I wholeheartedly hate the district system in 6. Moreover, in 6 at most time I feel like I'm just following instructions and clicking buttons. That's it. I don't feel like I'm developing and expanding my civ like in 5. 5>>>>>>>>>>6

[@TheDallasDwayne]

This was a great review, Tom. I’m shocked by how few subscribers you have given the excellent quality of your videos. Keep up the good work!

[@petef15]

*cancels download and launches civ 5*

[@wolfshanze5980]

When you started talking about narrators, before you even went there, my first thought immediately went to "well neither narrator in Civ V or Civ VI is as good as Civ IV's Leonard Nimoy!"... then you went there and I laughed. I'd gladly take a mod that xfered Civ IV's narration over to Civ V.

[@strattom1759]

Leonard Nimoy was so good in 4. I have a soft spot for Civ IV, it was the first Civ game that I properly got into

[@epicow_1973]

Idk i really liked william morgan sheppard.

[@encycl07pedia-]

transferred*

[@elwiito8242]

Imma be honest, I only started playing Civ 5 because I loved the leader screens. Now I've become a roman emperor in possesion of 2 cities, 667 coins, and only 1 empire met, since i'm purely concentrating on expansion and the best for my citizens. I also have 2 wonders.

[@WallsTCAP]

I think another reason for Civ VI's artstyle is because they didn't want it to be too demanding on PC, and they wanted to get as many people to be able to run it as possible. I know when I started playing Civ V when I was 13, I didn't have a good enough computer to run it, and I had to play it at the lowest settings possible just to get it to run decently enough. I don't imagine that being an issue in Civ VI though, although I could be wrong.

[@darkemperor418]

You're not wrong I play this for hours on my iPhone 11 pro 😂

[@appropriate-channelname3049]

What are you talking about civ 6 is way more graphically demanding than 5

[@WallsTCAP]

@@appropriate-channelname3049 Obviosuly, even the most basic PCs made in 2016 when Civ VI came out are more powerful than the ones in 2010 when V came out

[@delasgoe]

@@darkemperor418 Could it be played in hawuei smart z of 2019? I have 4gb of ram, if I buy the cv iv through steam could I play it from my hawuei?

[@darkemperor418]

@@delasgoe I don’t know much about Hawuei or androids so I’m not sure

[@DaveFu]

One day Pocatello and the Shoshone will build those Casinos I dream of!

[@christophercarlone9945]

Lmao

[@Uthandir]

Well, I only needed to get up to the 3minutes mark to decide which one to keep playing and which one to keep ignoring. GG, thx for the vid.

[@VitchAndVorty]

Art styles and graphics are two different things.

[@MegaTranquilla]

Awesome video. Very high quality and great in-depth analysis. For me civ 4 with Realism Invictus is still the goat

[@strattom1759]

Thank you! I am thinking of doing a video on Civ 4 as it was my first love in the civ series. Will have to check that mod out

[@MegaTranquilla]

@@strattom1759 I spent countless hours on it. It just has so much depth and each civilization is completely different. My dream would be Civ 5 graphics and hex fields, civ 6 citybuilding, Humankind maps and everything else from civ 4 Realism invictus.

[@scroogemcduck6526]

One thing I don't like about Civ V or VI is the inability to create one's own new Civ w/o going full mod mode, where one has to know how to code up a mod. A custom option to create one's own step-by-step custom civilization would have been ideal. So if one wants to create, say, a civilization w/ an unknown leader, one could then have whipped up one, saved it, and then played it The other thing about Civ VI is that they don't lock some features when needed. For instance, if one is playing an European scenario, it would normally be fine to have only Christians civilizations play it: it doesn't make sense to show, say, France embracing Buddhism or Spain embracing Daoism, but that possibility is there for Civ VI AI players Will there be a Civ VII?

[@givemeurhats]

When you brought up narrators I immediately thought of Sean Bean quoting the pigs line. I'm surprised you played that one

[@Golemoid]

"I am fond of pigs. If there are no pigs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went." -David Cameron

[@thebestspork]

Civ 1 and 2 didn't have builders or workers. Settlers (and their upgraded Engineer unit in civ 2) did all the builder functions as well as being able to create new cities.

[@jeremyfurness726]

Players enjoy games with a range of factors coming into play. These factors range from the way the AI plays, the sounds, the music, the graphics and the playable style. There is usually no defining one thing that makes any game. With Civ 5 the experience is really great across almost all aspects of the game. For this reason it has remained really popular. Does it matter when it was released? Not at all. The main thing is this game is just so enjoyable. Civ 6, (in my opinion) just does not tick as many boxes. At the end of the day it is really up to personal taste. My vote goes to Civ 5.

[@garythesquidsquid7779]

I wish someone made a civ 5 or 6 warhammer 40k mod. Or if the warhammer team and the civ team got together and made a civ like in the 40k universe

[@GGA007Gaming]

There already is a game like civ for Warhammer 40 k it's called gladius relics of war

[@thug588]

warhammer is super lame

[@bringbackpluto4134]

@@thug588 L take

[@thug588]

@@bringbackpluto4134 its lame

[@DaniloLuisFaria]

My dude made a fair point about graphic style and desgin but almost entitely unvalidated his own point showing Cleopatra, she is so great im CIV6! Algo, I miss a discussion about the music they are great in both game and is the hardest one to chose which one is better, at least for me.

[@wertia391]

I'm liking this video, but in the future I think your voice isn't loud enough. Good work :)

[@richardperritt8750]

To be honest, I think Civ4 beyond the sword is better than both. Though the map is composed of squares, not hexes, the battle system is far better, with unlimited units on any square. I like to play quick games on standard size maps as a single player. Years of playing and I am still not bored due to the variations within the game. I try to beat my highest score of a little over 55,000 points. Favorite leaders... Ramses, William Van Orange, and Louis 14. Got bored with Civ 5 very quickly, so I never went to Civ 6.

[@mantistobogganmd5231]

Deciding which one to get as both are on sale right now. Thanks for the video 👌🏻

[@AJays734]

I played civ 5 hundreds of hours. I played civ 6 platinum and returned it after 40 mins. I hated every possible aspect of civ 6 in 40 mins of gameplay. Now im reinstalling civ 4 because i never played the expansions for it that i already own. Probably wont be buying civ 7 if its like civ 6.

[@artyomarty391]

@@AJays734 civ4 is all about mods. Each mod is like its own unique game. Civ 5 and 6 do not have anything like that

[@Spoondogg]

I only ever play for Domination or Diplomatic victory in Civ, and for this reason I like V better than VI. But I can admit, I just like turn based war strategy with the depth and simplicity of Civ. Civ VI is a better "Civilization Simulator" in my opinion. I do wish they had "Barbarian Clans" mode in V. Making deals with barbarian tribes who could turn into future city-states is one of the coolest additions to the series for me

[@olivierconstant9997]

Barbarian cities could already turn into a city-state civ, then a normal multi-cities civ, in Civ 4. Civ 6 "Barbarian Clans" isn't a new addition to the series, the concept already existed in Civ 4!

[@olivierconstant9997]

I think as "Civilization Simulator", Civ 4 is doing a better job: Every city improvement is actually visible on the map, the notion of cottage growing to village then cities with time, like our city's suburbs, is really well done. Diplomacy is better implemented in Civ 4, you actually know why a Civ is liking you or not, with a list of pros and cons events happened in the past. And the AI is quite challenging, it knows how to play the game. In my opinion, Civ 4 > 6 > 5.

[@shaneintheuk2026]

I gave up on Civ after Civ 4. I play single player and the AI for combat was utterly laughable in Civ 5. I remember being excited at the idea of ranged troops, combined arms, etc. Only to be shocked by the AI moving catapults next to my cavalry, repeatedly. I don’t know whether it’s been fixed but I was so horrified at how much of a mess they’d made I switched to other games. I still occasionally load up Civ 4 but have never gone back to 5 or 6.

[@baitposter]

Find any good 4X games since? Got into Endless Space 2 of late

[@shoddypeasant8762]

the civ5 ai depends on who ur fighting, sometimes they're absolute garbage, other times they can literally wipe out 2 riflemen with knights and elephants, like bruh srsly? i swear that siam'll pay

[@feo130]

@@baitposter Old World is *chef's kiss*. I enjoy Civilization 6 as well, don't really see anything wrong with it.

[@kraven4027]

Community Patch mod for Civ 5 makes the AI pretty good. The most challenging Civ AI to date. I've played 4, 5, and 6. I wish that mod existed for Civ 6 because its my favorite game overall.

[@andreicristian9575]

@@feo130 That's a horrible recommendation. I hope people don't take your word for it, because that game is as boring and dry as a rock.

[@aliasgharkhayati2713]

Great and nice video 👍In Civ 5, graphics is more realistic but in Civ 6 it's so cartoonish and look like mobile games. I think another important difference between Civ 5 and 6 is about how much detail is shown on the map. In Civ 5, you can see all the necessary info (like units and land improvements) but in Civ 6, the map is so crowded and I can't distinguish items or find troops and it's so annoying. Maybe it's related to designing the map that has too many 3D details on it. Keep on making great videos 🙂

[@strattom1759]

Thanks my man. I haven't made any in over a year now due to circumstances out of my control, but the return is coming soon.

[@aliasgharkhayati2713]

@@strattom1759 Hope you overcome your difficulties and continue working on your channel 😉

[@slumberingsam]

Although i play civ 5 the most out of all of them I think civ 4 was ultimately my favorite

[@AJays734]

I returnee civ 6 platinum after 40 mins of gameplay. I hated every change including the graphics. Now im going back in my steam librsry to reinstall 4 and the expansions i own but never installed. Fireaxis ruined civ 6 for me and if 7 is more of the dame i wont buy it.

[@slumberingsam]

I think the main season I never really got into 6 was just how busy I was during that time in my life. I think, for me, it is a matter of taking the time to get used to the changes. Because I initially didn't like every single new civ game when I first played them, until I took some time to learn the mechanics of the game. But I agree about the graphics... The cartoonish nature of the the civilization leaders really bothered me... @@AJays734

[@riassatkarim586]

Excellent video!

[@VoodooD0g]

Cities should be incredibly hard to take, they are cities....

[@meatyspartanguy]

Very good and thoughtful video. You deserve more subs man.

[@strattom1759]

Thanks my man. I'd probably have more if I could commit more time to it

[@MilesDei95]

Civ 6 has amazing combat, city building and leaders. Civ 5 culture victory, policies and mods. I have 1k hours in both and i love both

[@GeorgeWashington799]

Civilization 5 feels more realistic to me and i sounded like Bill Clinton rather than myself

[@benjamim8046]

New player here, debating which game I should get to get into the series, any suggestions for which might be the most noob friendly?

[@Jammonstrald]

Civ V is WAY more noob friendly. The main reason being that Civ VI has a lot more interconnected systems that require more understanding for micromanagement (like the governor cards, the culture track, and district planning), as well as some very unintuitive design choices (like the expended worker's mentioned in the video, but also the movement system in VI creates some very frustrating and weird interactions). One of the the most noob-unfriendly aspects in VI is how aggressive and brutal early era barbarians are, and VI took away default city defending capabilities (it is something that needs to be researched). This is not to say Civ V is too easy, but I think it is far easier to get into a game and begin to explore its systems. Civ VI in comparison feels more cumbersome and punishing.

[@RotsenJM95]

Civilization 5, its tutorial incorporated into the game is enough to be able to play it, unlike Civilization "youtube" 6.

[@encycl07pedia-]

One of my favorite games that I play in lieu of Civ is WinWar II v2. It's a shareware game from the 1990s that is a turn-based strategy game based on WW2 with grid movement/combat. The coolest part is the map configuration is just a text file so you can edit the names of places and create scenarios. You're still stuck with a static world map and fixed teams (USA, France, USSR, and England vs. Germany, Italy, and Japan), but otherwise you can do some really cool stuff.

[@ninocelic7577]

Civ V us much better, graphic the feeling of playing civ vi is too cartoon like and ita missing the one more turn, art Style in civ v is amazing the painted pictures of the world wonders are great

[@TheWagonroast]

6 deserves extra points for having governors, power, and many more features

[@aneksjaBombasu]

I hate that districts remove resources and wonders take squares, everything else except combat animations seems to be improved imo.

[@javierrios8027]

Came here for the nostalgia. Ended yo appreciating Civ 6 more.

[@Bonserak23]

I did hate in 3 how if you couldn't get rubber in the late game you were basically doomed lol

[@shannonmikko9865]

I personally prefer Civ 6 but I'd give Civ 5 the point for workers just on the basis that in Civ 5 workers can build roads while they can't in Civ 6

[@Nerdcrusher]

Civ 4.

[@olivierconstant9997]

Agreed, Civ 4 is the best entry, a timeless masterpiece. Hope they will take some inspirations from 4 when making the 7. This game is still so good today.

[@Jammonstrald]

I like the wonder placement in VI, and the way the environment impacts the look of the city...and that's about it. Everything else I like better in V, but especially the movement and the builders. Builders not being able to build roads is infuriating. I also don't like the policy card system in place of V's culture advancement. Policy cards may present more varied strategic opportunities to pursue objectives, but the system doesn't *feel* thematically gratifying, it's so abstracted. Sure it works, you get synergistic + signs, but unlocking a new policy card never felt as exciting as progressing the civilization's identity as explorers, or artisans, etc.

[@david8157]

Good review

[@Poolverine580]

There is an Rise of Kingdoms version of CIV 5 the themes are similar the difference is the game. It's called Civilization Reign of Power I know most of you know this game and it is a multiplayer strategy game. Unlike Sid Meier's original civ games, CIV: Reign of Power is not like a board game version of a strategy game it's more of a war and building game and what I mean about building game is that you can actually build something inside your city and you can see anything there. For example: farm, Monument, Barracks Also unlike CIV 5 and 6, you can send soldiers outside your city but they return after attacking and collecting.

[@factandsuspicionpodcast2727]

I'd give my opinion, but considering I just learned that Liam Neeson isn't the narrator for Civ 5, it's probably not worth much.

[@strattom1759]

Well you just made laugh, so it's worth something

[@firstclaw1]

Well made video. I can tell where your personal opinion tipped the scale. I can't tell if combat in Civ V is so much better. I like the concept of how Civ VI uses tiles more distinctly. Regarding the graphics I found the cartoonish style also a bit too playful, but I can live with that. I like the art style of the main map and how it reveals new areas, also clearly showing what I can't see continuously much better. Like a double layered fog of war. It seems especially with the Add-Ons Civ VI became a more complex experience as a whole. I find that more challenging and interesting.

[@strattom1759]

I have recently got the anthology addition of Civ VI and it is very good. Civ VI has really grown on me since doing this video

[@firstclaw1]

@@strattom1759 I also got the Anthology upgrade in a sale at 2K shop. Great value.

[@carlkligerman1981]

Yeah I think it’s high time we moved past pining Civ5; Civ6 is a far more complex offering from every point of view, and this is a strategy game after all. It’s always jarring when you’ve mastered an edition of the game and there’s change, but Civ6 is easily a far more dynamic game IMO. There’s now a mod to make the art style more realist again

[@JT-yl9yt]

Yeah I didn't really get the military win over Civ VI either. Getting into an actual standstill is a good thing and taking cities that are fortified should be very difficult you should really only be waging war when you know you have a severe advantage 1v1. Main problem is that the AI can't do that well with the military options available but the military game as a whole is better than Civ V.

[@nehemiasgroppi4397]

You didn't talk about amenities, and loyalties as well as eras, should have been there

[@strattom1759]

I did ask you to excuse the fact that I didn't have the DLC for Civ 6 at the time of making the video. Those features are DLC additions

[@nehemiasgroppi4397]

@@strattom1759 yeah, but amenities are not part of dlcs, the other ones were just me being dumb and forgetting about it xD

[@strattom1759]

@@nehemiasgroppi4397 Fair enough. Well yeah, I didn't find a spot to talk about them. What do you think about them? Good feature or is Civ V better for not having them?

[@lukebaker3853]

i think both narrators did a great job, also that narration while nice isn't very impactful and should be a point. unless one narrator is god and the other is a crack pipe i don't think this should have been a point at all. score would be 5 to 3

[@Firstwhoami]

I feel like the art style could have been a developer’s bias versus Fortnite kids new strategy game

[@patrick-sprachenmusikstudi5351]

Civ 4! Before the series turned from a strategy game to a virtual board game

[@infradig696]

Have you ever played Dawn of Man?

[@strattom1759]

I haven't. Is it worth a go?

[@infradig696]

@@strattom1759 yeah judging by what you said in this video, I think that you'd really like it. I can gift it to you on steam if you'd like.

[@BlackIjs]

I don't hate Civ VI, but it does not mesh well with my playstyle. Civ V was a lot of fun once you got used to it. Out of the entire series, I think Civ I and Civ II were the best (based on 'fun'). Meier's Pirates and Railroad Tycoon also rocked - he was a gaming god at one point.

[@strattom1759]

I loved Transport Tycoon as a kid. It's on my extensive list of games to do a video about when I can finally get back to making videos

[@Bonserak23]

Civ 2 was like crack for my ADHD 8 year old self.

[@Fierysaint1]

"Civ 6 has drifted in style and tone into that of a mobile game." That's all I needed to hear. I'll keep my Civ 5.

[@darkemperor418]

This review is outdated

[@ogrebloodchief]

Yeah that's not accurate. Civ 6 is good.

[@godofm3tal1]

and i like the builder system in 6. rather than just running around building anything and everything you want for the rest of the game, you are forced to make decisions on what you want to develop. you can make more. plenty more. but then you have to choose to do that over something else. i like having impactful choices and i think its a great direction for any game. make you responsible for your decisions.

[@AJays734]

I played 40 mins of civ 6 and when my builder disappeared after building 3 tiles and all the insane micomanaging pop ups i peaced out and requested a refund on steam. And i bought platinum edition for 17$. Civ 6 even looked terrible visually. It was like a blurry cartoon style cell phone game. I hayed every aspect of civ 6.

[@DoBap_]

For me, I prefer the graphics of 5, and the gameplay of 6.

[@Harryshub69]

Civ 6 reminds me of Civilization Revolution.

[@Ashmodai]

I like and dislike the games for kind of the exact opposite reasons 😅. I love the art style of VI but I like the gameplay of V more. It feels simpler, more manageable and more traditional than for example the district system which both adds and removes complexity. Also I think while I love the art style of the characters and the map, the UI of Civ V feels so much cleaner. It really is a weird comparison between the two. I also can't see the full story though since VI is like... way more expensive? I have all the DLC for V and that's maybe why it feels more complete but holy hell, VI is expensive with all the nations and expansions that are almost the full price of a new game! So yeah, it's hard for me to compare them equally.

[@jeyysi]

I really liked civ 5 but i wish there was holy wars like in civ 6. I find it fun spreading religion but not being able to do against foreign religion aside from exerting pressure seems lackluster.

[@nervsouly]

The problem with combat in Civ VI is that the AI is so incredibly bad at it. They just don't use their units properly and don't build enough of them to begin with (prince difficulty) either they are unprepared as you declare on them, or they are unprepared as they declare on you. I wouldn't really call it almost the same... in Civ V if you make a stronger person angry they gonna come at you. Not as effective as the doom stackers of IV, but good enough. Also in VI you have to bypass the launcher to actually be able to play without crashing every 15 minutes.

[@phdtobe]

Some of your criticisms of Civ 6, such as the cards system and the finite capacity of builders, speaks IMO to you not understanding how Civ 6 changes the way you have to navigate the challenges of the game and merely are reacting to changing away from something that is familiar to you.

[@SashaMasonVR]

Me here feeling like the cartoony and more vibrant design of Civ 6 is actually more appealing, and I'm by no means someone who ever plays mobile games, but I just like the art style more.

[@JoeUseres]

nice video, only 22 like?! omg!!!!

[@hugoguzman4985]

'Narrators' feels like a joke category, or like it was added purely because otherwise Civ 5 would dominate. EDIT: And honestly, this whole review seems ludicrously biased in favor of Civ 5. You should have just kept the original concept, because that's basically what we got.

[@strattom1759]

It was pretty close for something that is 'ludicrously biased'. That being said, the whole concept of the video is subjective, so bias is inevitable.

[@sowmyoats]

mw when dilpomacy

[@jadennguyen6825]

I prefer the cartoony look of Civ 6, I am incredibly new to the Civilization series, and ran into this debate when deciding to buy Civ 6. I think Civ 6’s artstyle is much more appealing and friendly to newer players while Civ 5’s artstyle is much more intimidating for players who are new, but want to try turn based strategy as a whole. Though I do see the argument of appealing to Fortnite’s audience or looking too much like a mobile game and I say “Fair enough”

[@strattom1759]

I think you're absolutely righ, I do look at this from the perspective of a grizzled old strategy gamer. There's no arguing with the fact that Civ VI has drawn in a new audience to the game and the strategy genre as a whole. I've found myself warming even further to Civ VI since I made this video. It is an excellent game.

[@ramses6231]

your opinion is wrong.

[@HieronymousLex]

The reason it looks cartoonish and mobile game-like is because it’s literally a mobile game. And to me the art style is a blatant downgrade. It looks so corporate and soulless. Like it’s designed in a boardroom to appeal to hyperactive kids. It’s borderline creepy. No offense. I’m not sure how you deduced that Civ 5 is a more intimidating game based on graphics alone. It actually has fewer mechanics than civ 6, I’d argue that it’s easier due in part to the lack of districting. You can’t make assumptions about gameplay based on graphics like that.

[@arjunad8766]

I got Civ 6 for free on Epic games store

[@firstclaw1]

Apart prom the more fun and playful style I like the animations in VI. Also let thus cartoonish art style fool you. From what I can tell Civ VI has a more layered and complex Gameplay.

[@gbxgbxgbx]

what kind of spyware is in civ6? Are they kidding?

[@kekohokko7213]

Alpha Centauri, Civ IV, Civ II, Civ, other games in the series, in that order.

[@newclearrice4344]

Civ 4 is the OG for me

[@Mintcar923]

Granted it’s still playable i think it’s the weakest out of 4-5-6.. In the last week I’ve been bouncing between all the different versions.. It looks to me like the GOAT is either Civ 4 or 5..

[@olivierconstant9997]

For me it's Civ 4 first, the timeless classic. Then Civ 6, even if it has tons of defaults. Civ 5 is OK but feels like a draft for me, some core concepts seem broken.

[@Mintcar923]

@@olivierconstant9997 Well sometimes less is more as far as micromanagement.. I just find Civ 5 a tad more addictive.. And there are some things about Civ 6 that just go over my head.. Also, the constant fog of war is really annoying tbh But maybe I’ll give it another chance if I can get that final dlc downloaded onto my Switch., There’s some kind of glitch where it says i have to buy it whereas I already bought all the dlc packs way back when.. As far as Civ 4 I like it because it feels the the best version of the Civ I started with which was Civ 2 stylistically.. It’s really cool I have the physical copy

[@psychoscan6658]

For solo game IA of the 5 are more interesting. ( i play in immortal) and in civ 5 the IA fight you with all their power for win the game. In civ 6 IA are very hard at he beginning but if you survive you win easy the game. The party become boring. But in civ 5 you must keep your guard still the end. Most fun (for difficulty immortal its level 7). And war in civ 5 is more apocalyptique. War between the IA too. When Shaka zulu unify the other big continent it's bad for you. In the 6 no destructive war between IA after midle age. Borring.

[@forcedge2302]

if civ 6 didn't look like a cartoon it would blow civ 5 out of the water

[@timetraveler2518]

My brother and I play CIV 5 every Sunday. We love CIV 5 and it is better than CIV 6. We dislike CIV 6 about districts of additional city squares and maps. CIV 5 is the best 4X civ builder game in the game market.

[@Golemoid]

Civ6 policy cards aren't 'small buffs', many of them are game changers, especially with the dramatic ages mode. I see you don't use the extended policy cards mod that shows you exactly what bonuses you get.

[@strattom1759]

I do not use that mod, no

[@Golemoid]

@@strattom1759 It should be a part of the base game, I can't imagine playing without it. In a game I play right now, a third of my culture comes from a single policy card. Without the mod I might have not known the bonus would be that big and not pick it. Or out of the many +gold cards, I know right away which gives the biggest bonus. If I had to calculate the bonuses every time myself, I would probably not enjoy the system either.

[@malizegamer8228]

my biggest issue with 6 is how the climate change model is a one way street...you can mitigate the emissions for the whole planet fifty times over with no reverse impacts

[@XxKidnoffxX]

I restart playing Civ again yesturday. I was planning to buy Civ 6 because..... It's the last one lol. But on internet, a lot more people prefer the 5 and I actually already got Civ 5 since day one. So, it was cheaper to reinstall Civ 5 and buy all the DLC in bundle than Civ 6. I watch some video of Civ and god... To be honest, that hurt my eyes. I love AoE Online graphics and AoE IV, I love the realist one like AoE 3 too. I'm perfectly fine with cartoon graphics, what ever the kind of game is. But here, the map really hurt, it's awful. But the new tech system look really good, even if it look like the same exact tech... The only big problem I have with Civ 5 Vs Civ 6, it's because my country is not in Civ 5 lol (Canada).

[@Bonserak23]

Ive really tried to like 6 but idk it just kind of sucks,

[@sumerianfarmer5363]

CIV 5 FOR SURE

[@swisschaesar2701]

"dilpomacy" helped me realize there's a small chance you're trolling after picking Sean bean as the better narrator.

[@strattom1759]

Haha I was not trolling. Sean Bean graces everything he touches. This comment did make me laugh though.

[@positivelynegative9149]

👍

[@SovietBattlePonies]

I think the builders are much better in 6. Having them as a resource provides much more strategy (aka using right cards at the right time). In civ 5, after a while i just sent them to auto-improve and it was non interactive

[@bringbackpluto4134]

*starts civ 5 download*

[@TheLabecki]

I think Civ IV is still the best, but prefer V over VI. I find VI is just so slow paced, has too many civics, and it is too easy to culture flip cities.

[@shaneintheuk2026]

Having said that I gave up on Civ after Civ 4 I am hoping that Old World is the spiritual successor. The AI seems much better at combat and there’s a lot of depth. I’ve only had it a few days so I’m not sure yet. My first impression of Humankind was positive but I became disillusioned quickly. Fingers crossed.

[@strattom1759]

I've actually just written a review of Old World. I've had to move house recently and I'm still getting things sorted (hence the lack of videos recently). But that will be my first video once I'm back.

[@shaneintheuk2026]

@@strattom1759 make sure you mention the excellent manual. They don’t mention it in the tutorials and I entirely missed it to start with.

[@gamingmoment1061]

I gotta be honest, I prefer not only the style of civ 5, but also the diplomacy. I think that diplomacy needs an overhaul in the next civ game overall, it’s just lackluster considering the whole point of the game is war and alliances. When total war has better diplomacy you know you need an overhaul. Here’s hoping civ 7 learns from the mistakes of civ 6 and civ 5, and takes the good from each title and makes some innovations of their own, making the best civ game yet.

[@IIkyojii]

imo the UI and look of civ 5 is far better than civ 6 civ 6 looks like what shouldve been before civ 5

[@muhammadyudhi1338]

And the most important, CIV V have the Chad Gadjah Mada, while the CIV VI who the hell is this virgin girl?

[@vicentemunoz4203]

He jugado CIV IV, V, VI y puedo decir que en promedio el CIV IV es el mejor debido a lo siguiente: - Colonización: en el V y VI la AI tarda excesivamente crear nuevas ciudades lo que a la larga le quita la competencia. Ya sabes quién va a ganar alrededor del turno 200 y generalmente (99%) es el jugador humano. - Guerra: si bien en V y VI la guerra es más interactiva al enfrentar unidades, no tendrán nunca una guerra que te haga sudar con una AI realizando una invasión a gran escala y casi sin que te des cuenta. Es posible perder varias ciudades antes de tener la capacidad de contraatacar, eso no pasa en V y VI. Hay que añadir también la genialidad de tener la unidad de misiles (no son armas nucleares), inexistentes en civ VI. - Salubridad: en civ IV la sanidad de las ciudades es tan importante como la felicidad. Se pueden incluso intercambiar como recursos valiosos para obtener recursos estratégicos o de lujo. - Maravillas nacionales: la Plaza de Gobierno de civ VI queda corta respecto a las de civ IV y las obliga a estar sólo en una ciudad. En el IV puedes desarrollar tu estrategia en distintas ciudades con maravillas nacionales. -Oro: en civ iv hay una enorme facilidad de generar riqueza. Además las mejoras de Caseríos/Villas/Aldeas son muy útiles para esto y estéticamente son agradables. Esos puntos a mi parecer me hacen elegir Civ IV sobre el V y el VI, ya que incluso en el end game no tienes certeza que el jugador humano vaya a ganar, siendo en V y VI aburrido el end game porque ya sabes que ganaste.

[@ViktorBorgGrelsson]

nice audio

[@strattom1759]

Thanks. That's kind of you to say

[@artyomarty391]

civ4 still outperforms both of these just due to mods People just dont understand how much better a game can become with a good mod. These mods generally take more work to develop than the game itself CIV 6 still has like no mods. I mean it does, but they're all small and nothing big

[@MrRinoHunter]

Civ 5 hands down

[@ValentineRey]

No.

[@samirvargas323]

No.

[@timothy_synth]

You said only good things about Civ6 Warfare and lots of critic about Civ5 Warfare but you still gave the point to Civ5? 😂 This whole comparison seems strongly biased. You dont get into the details of different mechanics, it seems like you just dont like many of the Civ6 Mechanics because they are just different from Civ5

[@AHgameplay]

I prefer Civ 5. Civ 6 seems ...too preachy. 1) you have the environmental aspect. 2) you have the UN aspect, the "conspiracy, "secret society"...its a neat concept, but needs a little more development. Thats my opinion.

[@feo130]

As someone who likes the art style in Civ 6, allow me to explain why I think they made this artistic decision: The game won't look dated in 10 years. It will still look the same as it did on release. Zelda Windwaker is a prime example of a "cartoonish" art style aging gracefully, and I believe the same will hold true for Civ 6.

[@strattom1759]

That's actually a pretty good point. I still don't like it, but I I hadn't thought of it that way

[@HlGHENERGY]

But this doesn’t work if you think civ 5 still looks great, which I do. I was shocked to find out it was made in 2010, since I only started playing recently.

[@listrahtes]

This argument doesnt work at all here, as Civ V is 12 years old and DOES look better even now. I have only played Civ II and then never looked at one until now as Civ 6 is a gamepass game. I was shocked how not only cartoonish the graphics are (can deal with that) but also how bad and devoid of a sense of style they are. Zelda makes perfect use of this graphic style but also adds a specific art style to it and it fits to the world. With Civ 6 there is a huge disparity between what the game wants you to see like the mighty Cleopatra , and what you actually get shown. Civ V is timeless and a design style specific to the kind of game you play. Civ 6 seems like the marketing guys decided the art style.

[@binarekoharijanto9199]

I would personally agree if it's a fantasy game. I love Windwaker and BotW artstyle. But historical/quasi-historical games are different imo. I think best artstyle for Civ series, if we want to go that route, is like Disco Elysium, Age of Empire 2 DE, Iron Harvest, Company of Heroes 3, etc. Water-painting-ish/Painting-ish with relatively washed out colors but still retain some contrast.

[@andreicristian9575]

Won't look dated in 10 years but it will still look shit.

[@danielchristoph4576]

Great comparison especially your case about fortnite cartoonish graphic style.

[@kurukotaktay]

Civ V. Best ever.

[@jerrybevens7081]

I have both games and only play Civ 5. I prefer the maps on Civ 5...I don't want to have to "re-discover" the map. Also, war weariness of Civ 6 make it nearly impossible to play as a "conquer the world" game. Others can play as they wish, I continue to play Civ 5

[@Kyleforthe3SIKE]

ok grandpa boomer

[@realcheesy6384]

​@@Kyleforthe3SIKEyoung punk