WHICH is BETTER? (Kinekt vs Redshift Sports Suspension Seatpost Shootout)

In this video I compare two suspension seat posts. Which is the right choice for you? Why would you want one?
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[@TOCycleCommuter]

You see, what I like about your reviews is that you inform us so that even if we are not looking at these specific products, you have helped us in how to think about other, similar products. That's what makes your reviews so good and helpful.

[@davidklein1667]

Three and a half years ago I went ebike shopping. Being handicapped with spinal problems a good sis seatpost was Crucial!! I wanted BodyFloat but at the time their max weight was 275 I think. Bummer... I'm 300lb! Here's where it gets cool....the owner of Citrus Cycles was talking to them...told them how this old handicapped hippy wanted to ebike...with his doggo!..across Pennsylvania! They were so inspired they used custom parts and built me a one of a kind...meant to handle my big bones!! Lolol. These are the kinds of companies I support!! Btw...Love it!!!!!

[@barssound]

Been using the original Kinetic (Bodyfloat) seat post for years. Had a trapped nerve in my neck and it meant I could still ride gravel. Love it.

[@Niidea1986]

As a non native English speaker, all I've got to say is that rolling over baby heads sounds metal AF

[@gammelgemse]

*mental

[@snowfalleon7629]

cat's out of the bag now.

[@lemizle]

@@gammelgemse I think metal AF 🤘 makes sense to me. 😆

[@briangiven7399]

@@lemizle METAL!! -Jack Black

[@daltontinoco7084]

That would be a banger of an album

[@patsplat]

Redshift has awesome customer service. I broke a bolt and they sent a new one next day free.

[@brattenj57]

Thanks for your review; it helped me make my choice: I got the Kinekt seatpost system, and I'm loving it! I had no idea it would make so great a difference. It is pricey, but paired with my Brooks B-17 saddle, the difference in comfort makes it worth it. It is heavy, but still worth it.

[@TheSJCieply]

I really like elastomer suspension, such as the Cane Creek Thudbuster series. It's not noticeable when pedaling, but does substantially mute bumps.

[@eXTreemator]

Not nearly as substantialy as metal or air spring

[@thisishowiedewitt76]

This is my favorite bike related channel.

[@rogeriosq]

Hi Russ, I've ridden a simpler suspension seatpost for years now. It looks more like the "spring inside the tube" type. I find it really smoothes out road/gravel vibration and it significantly reduces my lower back discomfort. It's really firm and I don't feel any bobbing whatsoever. I'm a big fan.

[@SilatShooter]

Helpful review. I'm a Kinekt user and it works very well! Makes a huge difference in how long I can ride and how my lower back feels after ride. I swear by these posts.

[@SilatShooter]

@alessandro fanelli I'm 212 pounds and have lower back issues. This seatpost allows me not to be stiff for the rest of the week after riding my bike.

[@PhilSnider]

I've been waiting for you to do a review of these! Thanks for all your hard work Russ!!

[@johnware1220]

Hey Russ thanks for the great reviews of the suspension seatposts. I’m a firm believer in them. I’m about 220 and have ridden several BodyFloats, AKA Kinekt seatposts for the last 5 years on 3 different bikes. A vintage steel road touring bike, a 55+ pound commuter/touring ebike and now on a Salsa Fargo TI set up for gravel/adventure and I really appreciate the added comfort and ease of adjustability. I too have noticed at least up and down impact of tensioning the springs though. I also have noticed which saddle I am using really impacts the overall effect of the seat post. I have a range of saddles from a super supple old Brooks Pro to a newer, just softening Brooks leather to a Brooks Cambium. I’ve found the softer saddles do more of the “early absorption” whereas the harder Cambium on the heavier ebike takes more advantage of the seatpost’s suspension. Its all good and thanks again for the great content…

[@eGazTheFirstAustralian]

Purchased RedShift two years ago. Only because it was available. I'd say it's about the best purchase I've made in two years. Adjust it right the first time and never remove it again. It's all too easy and overall just plain commonsense on a hardtail. RedShift should come standard with every hardtail. My RedShift? I love it

[@Cyclingabout]

I've used the Cane Creek Thudbuster, the original Cirrus BodyFloat and am currently rolling on (and happiest with) the Cane Creek eeSilk. I found 33/35mm of vertical travel on the first two to be a touch too much for my liking (unless the terrain was really rough when it was appreciated). The BodyFloat worked out to be TOO active underneath me, compared to the Thudbuster which rode much more 'muted' (sounds like it'd be similar to the Redshift). When I increased the spring rate to get a firmer ride on both of them I was losing a lot of the small bump sensitivity, so I actually ended up switching them both out to a Cannondale SAVE carbon flex seatpost (which is a pretty damn smooth ride). I've been using the eeSilk the last eight months and it has been awesome! It is only 20mm of vertical travel, but even with a light spring rate, it can dampen shock from the road AND not have that feeling of excessive saddle movement. Plus it is 50% lighter! I think I found my goldilocks seat post. 👌🏼

[@zombpocolypseiscomin]

I just swooped up the e silk! I'll be trying it out soon, super excited

[@jabrobbins]

295 gram weight, nice!

[@martinflibotte9857]

Thank you for your valuable comment; I’m shopping and looking at reviews at the moment and you sold me on the silk; and not only is it light, almost the same weight as a regular seatpost, but it’s not bulky. I’m surprised I haven’t seen a lot of comments on the size of the Kinekt.

[@eXTreemator]

Just be aware it won't dampen large impacts as well

[@bobbybecker80]

Good review. I've had a Thudbuster for 10+ years and a Kinekt for about four. using them on a hardtail Niner and a Haibike "e" hardtail. They are both excellent and comparable IMO and excel in absorbing small irregularities in terrain, but don't do much when ascending or descending.

[@GMoneyLove]

I own and have ridden both and find that they offer a lot of quality to a ride. The Kinect I have on my old HT MTB that I used as a gravel bike initially and I enjoyed the extra comfort it gave. I found it to be a bit bouncy when hitting moderate chunk and to have a little bit of bob when pedaling hard. I was a Kickstarter supporter of the Redshift seatpost and have it on my dedicated gravel bike now (previously I used a static carbon post). At first the RS post felt odd because it felt like I was floating, but in a good way. On my second and later rides I've come to love it. I still feel connected to the bike and terrain but I definitely feel fresher during and after a ride. Even with a good bike fit my lower back would feel tired by the end and this post has lessened it a great deal. I'm mostly riding on groomed gravel roads, FWIW. It doesn't bob when climbing or when going hard. Its just there... and that is where the two posts differ: the Kinect I always knew it was there, but the RS sort of blends in to the bike. I'm about 155 and the post came set where they suggested for my weight and they were right. Its not a post for bigger hits- I don't think any would be and that is where true rear suspension comes in. That is also what you arms and legs are for. I'd go for the RS seatpost again in a heartbeat and coupled with their stem you will be ready for cruising or riding fast (I didn't say racing, I swear!). Cheers.

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

I had a hard time getting rid of excessive pedal bob with the Kinekt. The RS is a lot more transparent and doesn't call attention to itself.

[@BlackWaterCyclist]

Thank you for such a detailed and great review. I do like the way the Redshift looks better than the Kinekt. Based on this info I would lean towards the Redshift due to the gravel road friendliness and the looks.

[@mann_idonotreadreplies]

Kinect looks better.

[@perkarlsson4915]

Suspension seatposts on all my bikes besides my MTB which has a dropper. On my tourer I got a Suntour SP12, 200 grams heavier but also almost $200 cheaper than any of those you tried out (currently the cheapest I find it online is €60). Heavier, but way cheaper and really excellent suspension. It can also be fitted with a neoprene sleeve to protect the works from road gunk. My steel gravel bike, as well as my carbon road bike, got inline suspension posts. Cheap, but does work. You can't really feel the suspension in those, but my herniated discs tells me they work, where a standard seatpost kills me. Those weigh about half of the tested ones, and cost about 10%... Biking is suspended for me.

[@williamwightman8409]

I love the RedShift seat post. I am not a hardcore rough trekking road rider. I prefer the undamped springy float feeling tuned to just barely deflect at my static sitting weight. Also a larger tire cross-section helps (I use 2.5") as you stated, if you don't mind extra rolling resistance. I have gone to Maxxis Hookworm slicks with a Tannus liner and an additional kevlar shield between the Tannus and the tire. Never get flats anymore and because they are slicks, the rolling resistance is still low at ~45 psi. I avoid mud if possible, slicks + mud = be more careful. I do not care about weight and so my bike is heavy with any tools and spares I need and it would be really heavy on any bike-packing trip, but I am big and it is not a problem.

[@Jugomugo]

I've been pretty curious about installing their stem and seatpost on my gravel / touring 920. Thanks for the video!

[@C010rbl1nd]

I use a ergotech (60-80kg) adjustment, Its very simple to use, you have to remove it to adjust it but with a quick snap its no problem it takes 2seconds, and the saddle is correct. It was 32dollers. I have 4 different suspension seatposts all around 30dollers, they preform the same they are all models that folds toward the crank not the backwheel, Its REALL good for commuting on bumpy roads, fantastic on grass soft trails on the wood, gravel road, I have not tryed in on a MTB trail (I have back problems so I cant do that) but this helps me. put a different saddle on each, takes me 10sec to change them.

[@walter9724]

I have a Dnm mountain road which is very similar to the red shift. It's cheap one and it came with a wrap around protector with reflective material on it. I love it as I ride a hard tail MTB I've converted to an e bike. I've only adjusted it once to make it slightly firmer as I'm a tall guy and weigh slightly more than is recommended for it, but it's no problem for it. It works great👍

[@markperry4474]

Where I ride there are lots of indentations in the black top on the cycle lanes. It is where the cherry pickers put down the stabilization feet when they have worked on the street lights. If you don't pay full attention, or if you are in two wheel traffic, it is easy to hit one of these dents. With a normal seat post there would be a sharp jarring sensation right up into my nads. I fitted a suspension seat post, and I don't get the jarring shocks anymore.

[@user-wc1em7pc2p]

Got a thudbuster lt on my surly 29” surly ecr and LOVE it. I use my ride for both trail and urban commuter and have found the seatpost to suspension to be worth it for unexpected potholes (especially at night), for unseen branches or dips in trails, and just general grocery getting and joy riding. If you have the cash the Thudbuster LT is worth it, tons of travel, supple, and easily adjustable with standard tools without having to remove anything.

[@kennogawa6638]

I run the kinekt and a cloud9 suspension seat on an electric fatbike. It lets you stay in the saddle on uphill loose gravel and baby heads so the rear wheel doesn't spin free.

[@surlycyclingrag3347]

Have been using a Brooks imperial flyer it has a little squeak I was impressed how it help on back pain. I would like to get one of these for my girlfriend. There should be enough clearance from the bag and (FRONT) tire 🙈

[@mf0u3021]

One thing I noticed when I first started using the redshift is that if you set it up per the instructions, raising your saddle a bit to adjust for the sag when sitting on it... when you brake and your weight moves forwards it can feel like the saddle is throwing you up and forward too much, which I didn’t like. So I now run it lower to allow for this, which I guess isn’t ideal, but it feels more comfortable. Really takes the edge off cobbles as well.

[@TomiLynch]

This is a great observation. I am designing a seatpost suspension myself and will definitely have you comment in mind.

[@cosmalas7742]

They both sound amazing. I have a cheap suspension post because it's on my commuter bike. Anything better would be removed. I have to say I am a fan

[@MikeesTexas]

Great thoughts here Russ! Speaking of SUPPLE, I have been experimenting with Vittoria Airliner inserts front and rear. They do a great job of muting things and smoothing everything out, Try to grab a pair to experiment with yourself!

[@AustinPrest]

Thanks for the review!

[@TeeJayD6]

FYI, if you have an old steel frame your adapting for gravel you might check your seatpost diameter before getting too excited. It seems the Kinekt has more options. My '81 Miyata 912 accepts 26.8 seatposts which rules out the redshift, but Kinekt shows I can order a 25.4 with a shim to get to my odd 26.8 size. So Kinekt seatpost with redshift stem is my plan. Stem should be here tomorrow. Seatpost- maybe for Christmas! Getting ready for gravel in Kansas.

[@lostisleminstrel]

Recently added a Kinekt seatpost to my RAD e bike. What a difference. I ride gravel and paved roads. With this seatpost there is no road vibration getting through. It smooths everything so I call it the "cadillac" ride. There is some bob but I'm not finding it irritating. I highly recommend this seatpost. I have experience with a broad range of suspension seatposts and this is the best I've ridden so far.

[@andyheilmann1656]

The redshift looks a little nicer in my opinion. I like it hiding the springs

[@smedleybutler1969]

I have the Redshift since they first came out they are great I ride all over NYC the worst roads possible curbs, speed bumps and potholes they adjust very easy but once you set it you can forget it,no bounce but you go through big potholes and hardly feel them,it is like a shock absorber,well worth the money!

[@leqin]

Used to run a Suntour NCX on my commute bike many years ago and it was great fun, especially with the ever growing supply of potholes that the local councils don't consider to be worth filling in. Nowadays I run a 29er fitted with super supple WTB tyres, but the potholes aren't getting any less so maybe I ought to fish it out of storage and give it another try - bit heavier than these two though at 750 grams as I recall.

[@michaelbutler2915]

I think if your bike has a quick release for the seat post then the no brained would be the bottom adjust you spoke of. Mostly due to the seat pitching in the others adjustment. I would buy either. Just because they appear to be quality functional products. Thanks for the post. You guys that post informational content like this makes KZbin worth searching.

[@billweegink27]

Thanks for your review. It was helpful. Im going the kinekt due to my weight

[@richardmanness6602]

Super budget rider here, i just bought a charge spoon saddle and a satori animaris suspension shock seatpost for my retrospec amok v3. In total im about 800 in on my build but it works and gets me outdoors. Keep up the good work Russ, i appreciate what you do.

[@timatrout9518]

I've got about 40,000 gravel miles and 20,000 road miles on my 2 Kinekt (Titanium posts that you can't get anymore) seat posts. I'll just say LOVE them! Easy to rebuild and maintain. I've given up trying to explain to other riders why I use them... I just say, "You don't know what you're missing until you try one"! I'm 59 and average about 12,000 miles a year. PS. The Kinekt (which I got first and would give up last) mates well with a Lauf fork.

[@dilmurodavalbaev1392]

Great stuff as always, Russ. Would love to see a review of Suntour SP12 NCX, which I believe is about four times cheaper than these, and uses a fabric cover to protect the moving parts.

[@RobMacKendrick]

Second the motion

[@BangNguyen-mp9xx]

it hard to change the Suntour SP12 suspension spring due to take out the seat post for it. but it worth the money when you got the spring adjust to your liking.

[@fabiogiehl2627]

@@BangNguyen-mp9xx pula muito o suntour?

[@robbchastain3036]

Thanks, Russ, for showing us these and I think you answered every question except how do these affect the ride vis-a-vis the party pace?

[@vetacoth]

PLEASE make a video detailling the Kinekt vs. Redshift suspension stem!!!

[@evelasq1]

I have a Specialized CG-R suspension seatpost with 18mm of travel for my De Bernardi Road Bike. It works great because not all of the roads are smooth. My back and my rear end does not hurt from the bumps on the road so it takes away the stress from my body.

[@rollinrat4850]

Ive used a Cirrus post for a few years now. Ive used lots of older suspension posts as well over 30 years. The Cirrus post action is the most refined (that Ive ridden) in my experience. Its just enough to take the edge off impacts. I use arms and legs for the big impacts. I had a very similar experience to yours. I switch mine between a bikepacking bike, a hardtail and a single speed 'cross bike. I ride in very technical, rocky terrain probably better suited to full suspension, but I love my underbiking, simplicity and reliability. I would buy another Cirrus but I'm not happy about the saddle clamp at all. Its a major pain and I often ride my bikes with a rigid post because Im not willing to spend the time to change it over. To get my saddles dialed perfect takes 10-30 minutes which is intolerable compared to the few minutes with a fore/ aft arrangement. I even have the means to make very accurate saddle position measurements and the Cirrus post is simply too difficult to get repeated results. I dislike things that aren't designed to be adjusted or maintained easily and efficiently. I wrench in a shop. I want to RIDE MORE, wrench less!' A fore/aft 2 bolt design is simple, sufficient, perfect and PROVEN. I just tried a Redshift post on my customer's 'cross bike and thought it very smooth and Cadillac like but mostly rode it on a rough paved road during a short test ride. I might have to check one out!

[@citizenwolf8720]

Great review. Much appreciated.

[@sdilizio]

Thanks, Russ. Good review. I recently installed the RedShift ShockStop suspension stem on my Surly Trucker with dropbars. Very little weight penalty and definitely takes the edge off rough terrain. Not a linear response, but the elastomers get harder the more they compress, so very difficult to bottom out. Main con is when you're pulling upwards on the bars, such as when climbing out of the saddle, then there's some bobbing. Not a big problem though. Very happy overall and really takes the edge off gravel when riding a rigid bike.

[@ruirodtube]

I’m using the Suntour NCX on my road bike and it gives me the sensation that the bike is made of rubber and it extends forward each time the suspension is activated. It’s probably because it pivots down and backwards. Do you have the same sensation with the seatposts you’ve tested?

[@mikesecrest2887]

I have both the Thudbuster ST and LT on different bikes I ride. I like them but haven't compared them empirically to each other or other designs. I think it depends on the bike on which it's mounted, and on the terrain on which you ride. Nevertheless, very informative and interesting information you have provided. And that's why I subscribed to your channel. Good Job!!!

[@lemizle]

I've got a Suntour NCX that's going on the bike I'm building. I was convinced of the merits of a suspension seatpost after riding 14km downhill in my top gear on a rail trail, and I ended up with a stitch after being jiggled at speed! (I thought I was developing appendicitis!) And that was with the back 2.1” tyre at

[@srfive3]

Love my Redshift Shock Stop seat post for commuting on my gravel and like Russ mentioned, less technical and more mellow gravel roads. I have been riding on it for nearly 4 months. However, swapping from a dropper, which honestly I didn't have to utilize very often, sent me OTB on steep gnarly single track that was otherwise no problem with the dropper. Pros and cons to everything, luckily Redshift is working on their dropper suspension post and PNW has their option too. Seeing as I don't tackle gnarly steep single track very often on the gravel, the Redshift is my go to.

[@richardauyeung720]

Hey Russ, could you tell me if either of the seatposts use notches where the clamp interfaces with the seatpost? The part where the clamp adjusts the tilt of the saddle. I'm interested in steel spring suspension seatposts over elastomer like the Cane Creeks, but the Cane Creeks have an amazing infinitely adjustable clamp for the saddle tilt. I've seen some pics of the Kinekt and I believe it has notches. I'm wondering if they changed that. Thanks in advance

[@Skunked68]

Thanks for good info !! I’m 6’2", well over 60, 250. E-bike now. Rickety weaker legs I LOVE e-bike as hill leveler ! I’m torn back and forth Redshift/Kinect. Perhaps do Redshift for less fuss in adjustments once out of tube. Which one is quieter for long haul? Squeaks drive me mad !!!

[@williamboucher8390]

Hey Russ, Thank you for all your wonderful supple reviews! Which Ergon saddle is on the kinekt seat post? did you liked it? Really curious about those ergon saddle. Thank so much

[@lifeunfazed]

I'm looking at getting the Redshift for the wife. Thanks for the review and your feedback.

[@gaston.]

I wonder how they compare to an elastomere like Cane Creek eeSilk plus.. I ask because the eeSilk has the lowest minimum height of 80mm.. which I need because of an oversized bike frame

[@amerikanongsiklista]

i have a question i know this is kinda weird but how about trying budget shocks seat posts like zoom or others??? why limit to 2 only?

[@salad_gold_rancher]

I have the Kinekt on my e-bike. I use an ABUS NutFix seatpost locking nut to protect my purchase. The Body Float is very Supple. I'm going to get it for my gravel bike and in June when the Kinect stem comes out, I'll get that on my gravel bike too. Adjusting is really easy, the other seat looks like a pain to adjust. The spring travel issues are probably down to wrong springs. But I've never used the Redshift so maybe I don't have reference.

[@ivanercegovac8855]

thanks

[@johnhouston8297]

Anyone using a Brooks C17 and BxB saddle bag combo with the Redshift and find any interference when the seat compresses regarding the seat post fender?

[@Bangandthedirtisgone]

After using a Suntour one on a hardtail eMTB I'm not sure why these aren't fitted as standard to all bikes without rear suspension. They make ALL the difference even if your'e just on the road. Roads are never perfect where I am and even small dips and bumps can try to slightly launch and jar you. You don't realise how much more enjoyable and probably efficient you can be travelling over imperfect surfaces till you try one of these. You also get to retain the speed benefits of regular tyre pressures as you don't have to deflate them loads to get a softer ride. Reduces impacts to the nether regions too which has got to be a good thing. Cool video. I'm not sure we get both brands here in the UK but I'm looking for a new one to go with a potential new bike. Cheers

[@EPSA10]

Hi. Nice review, for a mix terrain? In mountain and streets. Which one is more versatile? In terms of get firm or lock out the bounce?

[@jurajjansky6909]

Good review, thank you.

[@richeyrich6855]

Great video and thank you! I see that Randy Rides installed the Redshift on the Ariel Rider Kepler.

[@samgarchik5823]

Got a used bike from pros closet that came with thud buster. I'm 270 lbs riding a hard tail with non shock fork. Love the thudbuster, and am surprised how much I dig it.

[@symb0z]

Great video ! Thank You !

[@havefunandbikestuff]

I am currently injured recovering from a fractured leg and arm happened when a car hit me on my way to a morning group ride. I am considering this post & stem combo on my road bike for when I recover and am ready to bike again. This might take the road sting out when I begin again. What's your take?

[@WELSHMIKEY]

Thanks found this useful. Would also like to know about the crane thudbuster st if you ever get the chance.

[@chaleowin7732]

Great information, even 3 years later.

[@kailingman1255]

Please do a review on the Cane Creek eeSilk, both the Aluminium version and the Newer Carbon version.

[@vitalilisau6181]

I use Satori Harmony($45) for road commuting, probably 30000 km ridden. It is good and reliable except two problems - I have to use shims as they do not produce my size, and second - it is not long enough for me.

[@littlegoobie]

I've come to like riding on suspension seats that moves around. It's like sitting at a desk on a fixed chair vs a proper office chair with all the articulations. For me, it's like having fenders where you never go without them again once you've had them. I've never tried these particular seatposts, but i'm going to bet that magnetic "fender" shield thing will find itself lsot on the pavement somewhere before long.

[@kentquindt7898]

What about the pnw Coast? It's a 2 in 1 dropper post and suspension post. It has an adjustable air chamber for suspension and a coil for the rest of the travel. It's available in internal and external routing and my dad and I both enjoy our coasts. Ifs really because when you are getting on and off, you can drop the seat down really easy and adjusting is super easy. Just use a shock pump to change the air pressure with the Schrader valve under the saddle.

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

Haven't tried it. Also I ride small frames and barely have enough seat post to run suspension much less a dropper also.

[@jorismak]

If the kinekt is bumby, it's set up too loose (talking from experience). It's made to absorb micro vibrations, not the big bumps. Preload it so far that when you sit on it, it does _not_ compress down. Adjust saddle position and bike fit as you see fit. It's basically a locked suspension at this point. Then, turn it 'loose' a little bit until you find your preferred amount of suspension. Solved all kinds of back pain on my heavy high-speed-electric bike, which I wasn't having on my normal road bike.

[@cp-gx2yo]

Not a suspension seat post, but have you tried the saddles from SQ Labs? They're amazing. They have inbuilt suppleness and compliance. I have them on all my bikes. Well worth it.

[@blakemason2142]

The pnw coast is pretty solid too, I’ve got it on my hardtail and it saves my taint on every ride

[@midnightlightning1]

Sounds ideal but I heard mixed reviews on how good the suspension is, sounds like its only for helping with big bumps and not small chatter. How do you find it?

[@richardharker2775]

I ordered the Redshift from Kickstarter inception. I already had the Redshift stem and think that is wonderful once you get the setting suitable to yourself. Unfortunately I had to wait and wait and wait for the seat post until they were happy to release it. Something close to two years I think. When it arrived I'd lost interest and the eeSilk had already been released that several serious gravel racers use. I reluctantly fitted it to my bike and went through the micro adjustment stage being fussy about saddle position. I put skinny (28mm) road ties on my bike and had a wow moment when I was riding along familiar terrain. As Russ stated, great for dirt roads but also sealed choppy back country farm roads. I had several rides and gloated to my wife about the removal of micro jack hammering my rear end gets and how much more comfortable I am on longer rides. She was curious so I set it up on her bike and, well, I never got it back. So... as much as I might like the eeSilk I know I have to buy another springy post of some sort but I don't have patience to wait like the first one.

[@Graptos]

You are running stem and post then? If you could only run one, which would you go for, stem or post? Or is it one those, better to run X, but you really should run X and Y?

[@richardharker2775]

@@Graptos Oh! Seat post for sure. I did a 150k ride on Wednesday without the springy seat post and had a slightly sore bum. Today (Friday) I took my seat post back off my wife's bike for an organised gravel ride tomorrow so had a shakedown ride to the next town along concrete paths and rough bike trails that have tree roots causing repetitious bumps everywhere. The stem takes the initial sting out of the bumps but you can also unweight your hands a little too. The seat post however moves as rapidly as the bump hitting the back wheel taking the greater part of shock out of your saddle. Really smoothes out all the smaller bumps and cracks in the concrete trails.

[@billmaidment5623]

Good info. Id like to know if you have tried the specialized cobble gobbler?

[@RobertAlvarez70]

Really looking to find out which is the better seatpost, the Kinekt or Redshift

[@countingcoup]

I use a Kinekt on a couple of my bikes, an electric 29' hardtail MTB, and with my road bike Roubaix (also added Redshift handlebar post)… At the end of the day, whether road or gravel, if your seat and wrists are trashed your doing well… That said I will be in the market for a true gravel bike soon and will also add the Kinekt to that as well as the Red Shift handlebar post (if I don't go with the Specialized Diverge)… If your worried about the extra weight, skip a few breakfasts during the course of your week and you will be fine ~

[@bikeshore621]

regarding your gravel bike have you seen the Kinekt Stem www.indiegogo.com/projects/kinekt-suspension-bike-stem-smooth-out-every-ride#/

[@rollinrat4850]

countingcoup I've used the Kinect for a few years now. I'm diggin' it except the saddle clamp is a real pain to adjust. I don't notice the added weight except when Im sprinting and feel the weight swinging around. I don't sprint much at all! As far as skipping breakfast on any ride day? That's unacceptable!!! I ride so I can enjoy eating. I don't eat much on non riding days and look forward to eating big meals for fueling up.

[@Alex_564]

What do you think of the PNW Coast suspension dropper seat post, which uses air pressure for suspension?

[@kentquindt7898]

My dad and I both have them and they are the best!

[@guilal149]

FYI, A review came out yesterday on bikepacking.com about that dropper post :)

[@Alex_564]

@@guilal149 I saw that the other day.

[@thicccboyztv]

Its amazing. Had mine for the last month. Had the redshift before. The coast isnt as smooth, but takes big hits better, its a little bouncier, but it is tunable so thats probably cause i need to adjust it. And with the dropper i can handle mtb trails!

[@RayNomadic]

Nice review. I subbed

[@pjcd7016]

Have you tried the Cane Creek suspension seat post?

[@Mulkago]

Can you tell me from where do you get spares for Kinekt seatpost in Europe?

[@lukeshoot]

I'm leaning towards the new redshift pro which used both springs and elastomer for my road bike.

[@shawndevlin1914]

I run Kinekt seatpost and Redshift stem. At the time I bought it Redshift didn't have a seatpost. Love this setup and see no reason to change. Curious which post you think would be better for a rear bag, like a bikepacking bag?

[@SimonFuto]

Yes, I'd like to know whether these would work with a bike packing saddle bag.

[@kennogawa6638]

How do you like that combo? I already run the kinekt seatpost but was hesitant on the redshift stem.

[@kennogawa6638]

All the bike shops tried to talk me into something else when I asked about the Redshift saying stems had a bad rep.

[@shawndevlin1914]

Ken Nogawa wouldn't change a thing

[@kennogawa6638]

@@shawndevlin1914 What type of bike are they on.

[@MSimky]

How do these compare to Specialized CG-R Seatpost (cobble gobbler)?

[@Max-xl3ml]

Might be worth trying the PNW coast suspension dropper next. I can definitely see the use case for a suspension seat-post but I believe even more in droppers (including for casual, and everyday city riding) just a game changer for all riding scenerios. The PNW lets you have your cake and eat it too, its sub 200 without a lever also.

[@midnightlightning1]

Sounds ideal but I heard mixed reviews on how good the suspension is, sounds like its only for helping with big bumps and not small chatter. How do you find it?

[@Max-xl3ml]

@@midnightlightning1 I used it on a friends bike and it was definitely odd but good I think. That's true about the big bumps though but that's personally not something I'm worried about. If you're having trouble with lots of small bumps generally its best to lower tire pressure or squeeze in a wider tire. I'm running 2.2s with 23 psi and I generally have no issue with chatter. Climbs and flat sections with lots of baby-heads are where I have issues, but that might just be me.

[@dand3975]

I tried the PNW dropper with suspension, the suspension leaked down unless inflated at max pressure. I returned it and was Never Refunded. I purchased a Kenetic post and love it, it soakes up cracks and patches in paved roads very well. The Kenetic seat post was by far the best accessory part I added to my road bike.

[@MichaelLargent]

Any plan to do the shock stems by the same companies? I've been eyeballing them.

[@sheilastallard]

Do you know if there is one for the Brompton?

[@salvadorardon386]

Where can I get a 34 mm suspension seatpost

[@karlInSanDiego]

Did the Cambium saddle also suspend you on the Redshift? It's supposed to offer the hammock effect that all Brooks give.

[@theadventurebiker]

Good review as always, man. Really need something like this for the stoker compartment on our rigid tandem... That being said, I view all suspension seatposts as a sort of "band-aid" substitute for a proper frame with rear suspension.

[@sumsaudi]

Great review man. Ive been super curious about the concept of a suspension seat post. PNW Said they engineered the world's first suspension dropper seat post With the Coast dp. If you can somehow find a way to review against these offerings would be awesome

[@kentquindt7898]

My dad and I both have one and they are awesome! Best dropper post I've ever had and super easy to adjust the suspension part.

[@aaronerskine3401]

nice review

[@mikiyosangyo1627]

Cool review. Hm, It's hard to choose between them both. We need the third choice, which would be the fusion of both suspensions. Or actually a fourth option, a fusion with a dropper. OMG, choices.

[@mancello]

Good review! I tried a Cane Creek Thudbuster seatpost about 20 years ago and didn't like the compression. It felt like my lumbar spine was contracting and expanding. I didn't like the sensation. YMMV.

[@Finnv893]

Simple mechanical suspension like these doesn't have damping, the faster it compresses the faster it will bounce back , potentially causing lower spinal pain, therefore less travel is more advantageous for these devices because there's less rebound; they should be designed with primarily shock absorption in mind, not sucking up big hits, 76mm is way too much imo.

[@rollinrat4850]

Nick Mancello The Thudbuster had way too much travel in my opinion. There is too much fore/aft movement causing unwanted weight shifts and my h'bar to saddle relationship changed drastically and constantly. Ive used various telescoping suspension posts for 25 years. Now Im I'm diggin' the Kinect. Its travel path is up and down. The travel is minimal and just enough to take the edge off all the little bumps when seated. For bigger impacts it is much better to utilize arms and legs as suspension.

[@dougcohenmiller]

Seems like a fair review of the pros and cons. My question is: Do you like suspension enough to keep one of those running on your bike? Or are you just going back to the old standard?

[@victorsabioni]

Also interested.

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

I like the Redshift enough to keep it on.

[@dougcohenmiller]

Path Less Pedaled alright. That is meaningful. Thanks. 😎

[@JameseyFrey]

@@PathLessPedaledTV I'm about 300lbs. I see that Kinekt makes an XL version for 260-320lbs. I like the look and sleekness of the Redshift better, but am wondering should I just go for the XL Kinekt? I'm not sure how the Redshift will hold up for big and tall guys

[@emilykirkegard7854]

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[@marktroup2978]

Re: weight, the Kinekt is also available in a carbon version.

[@thebrowns5337]

I can't imagine the post section is the heavy part. The spings, linkages and clamp will be where the weight is.

[@paulwalker3563]

@@thebrowns5337 The carbon comes with carbon rails as well. Next should be Ti linkages and clamp.

[@kelliewood6524]

I have the Crane Creek Thudbuster on a Marin Larkspur 2. It raised my seat 2 inches which I did not want. What can I do or whats an alternative 🤔

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

Can you insert the post into the frame anymore? Sounds like you need a lower profile seatpost. The Thudbusters are tall. The Redshift isn't as tall but but still adds some height.

[@averageroadie6487]

Is it possible to still use a seat back with either of these posts? Not a deal breaker I guess but it would be nice to still be able to use one.

[@PathLessPedaledTV]

Depends on where it mounts on the post.

[@dickthomson3436]

Good review and very timely for me as I’m coming off of a lower lumbar spinal fusion and need to get a suspension seatpost. I’ve been looking at the Thudbuster ST, but have been intrigued by the Redshift and it’s cleaner lines. Any thoughts on the Thudbuster vs Redshift. FYI most of my my riding is on gravel roads or crushed limestone rails to trails...Thanks

[@derrleicaguy]

I can tell you from personal experience (~500 miles) the Redshift is a back saver. I was suffering from lower back pain and the installation of the Redshift has put the joy back into riding my Crosstrail. I primarily ride paved trails, gravel trails/roads and some dirt. Until last week I had not been on a bike other than my Crosstrail equipped with the Redshift, but my wife just bought a Sirrus 5.0 X, and I rode it stock on a trail I ride a couple of times a week. I went over some bumps that I've only noticed before that caused actual pain. I stopped riding after a mile. Once you start using the Redshift it just disappears and you forget about it. Yeah, and I'm buying her a Redshift.

[@PQV-8898]

I have both and currently use both on two different bikes. First when you are getting suspension seatpost you're NOT worried about weight otherwise you won't get them in the first place. Second, both work amazingly well and are equally effective in dampening road imperfections and potholes etc. Of course adjustment is a bit easier on the Kinekt but I find that I only need one adjustment on the Red Shift so there's no need to take the post in and out to re-adjust. Second, aesthetically there is no contest. The Red Shift is so much stealthier and better looking. I love both. If I had to pick one, it's the RS.

[@IK77]

Which one gives less bob and which one do you prefer for a road biking?