Which is Faster? | Specialized Enduro vs. Transition Patrol

[@Eshepard805]

When can we expect spire vs enduro?

[@Blake_Cherubini]

We’ll make it happen if enough of you would like to see it!

[@danielray1558]

@@Blake_Cherubini +1

[@jonathanberg1434]

@@Blake_Cherubini would definitely like to watch that :)

[@Eshepard805]

Have to compare 29 to 29er.

[@JakeJordanCircle]

@@Blake_Cherubini let’s do it! Would love to see multiple runs. 👏🏼

[@karinepotvin4095]

Hello Would you consider getting a spire and turning it into a mullet?

[@Blake_Cherubini]

Probably not. It can be done but I’m not sure why you wouldn’t opt for the patrol instead which was designed for a mullet setup.

[@karinepotvin4095]

The bottom bracket is lower on the patrol With the spire into a mullet and in high setting. You would having a higher bottom bracket. Is this not a good thing.

[@karinepotvin4095]

And the patrol cannot be a 29r . Where the spire could be both

[@Blake_Cherubini]

If that’s the case, then that becomes a geometry preference for you. I personally don’t pay much attention to bb height. Instead, I’d make sure I like the rest of the bike. Reach, chainstay length, ht angle, st angle, etc. All depends on preference and what your intentions are.

[@karinepotvin4095]

Thank you for your replies. So, you still prefer the patrol? I’m asking because I cannot decide on a patrol or a spire, and it’s it’s doing my head in now. I’m thinking patrol and up the suspension to 170/170 But I don’t like the idea of being stuck with a mullet. As the spire gives me 170/170 and I can have both. Iv been riding a 2012 morewood makula dh 26r So, either bike will be a big difference My main concern is bun buzz

[@serjturischev9557]

some kind of madness, your time like pro rider. Good comparison, thank you!

[@jacobfromerth4589]

NICE STACHE! I want to see this vid but with the Spire!

[@Blake_Cherubini]

🥸

[@forgottenplaces9780]

Great fall colors at the hill.

[@Blake_Cherubini]

And it snowed today😭😭

[@mike_millard]

Which felt more comfortable? And what's your height and reaches of the bikes? I'm trying to sort some bike sizes out for myself. Love the comparison videos!

[@Blake_Cherubini]

Felt a little more comfortable on the patrol. Just feels like a little more feedback and a little easier to maneuver. I’m 6 foot. Not sure about the reaches off the top of my head

[@hannes6114]

What's your stem length? 35 right?

[@stamy1]

Hey, I can see that you're wearing chest protection as well under your shirt, can you guys make a video about your riding gear/protection?

[@Blake_Cherubini]

Wearing the Fox Titan Race Subframe chest protector and G-Form Pro Rugged knees

[@blake_n_mtb]

Great video! I still love my Enduro comp though!

[@dmweyland]

have you guys ever tried TPR brakes?

[@danielray1558]

Great video- I’ve been on the enduro for a season and I’ve got a Patrol frameset on order. I’m curious if the patrol feels as “confident” in the steep and chunky runs as the enduro does? I love my enduro- but in my riding group most of us have been on specialized this year (enduros and sj evos) and while I’ve not broken my bike, we’ve seen 4 cracked frames. Makes me nervous. I’d also be curious on the spire in alloy.

[@Blake_Cherubini]

Thanks bud! Crazy to hear about your issues as well with the quality of the Enduro frames… I’ve had no issues with feeling confident on this bike anywhere. Both bikes handle it all well!

[@scorch0248]

People over tighten the headset causing cracks. Not always a frame problem. Sometimes a user error.

[@danielray1558]

@@scorch0248 only thing is- the cracks that I saw on friends bikes were 1)chainstay- stumpy Evo- 2)chainstay- enduro- 3) down tube stumpy Evo, and 4) BB area on a specialized fuse- 2 of these were warrantied and two ended up as crash replacement.

[@sham8723]

I bet the times would have been even closer with the same brakes. You braked late (or not late, but didn't get the bite you were expecting) and were visibly slower through that one corner on the enduro. The brake probably sucked because the rotor was bedded to the patrol pads and then you swapped the wheel to a different caliper and pads on the Spesh.... probably got slightly better by the third run as the pads began to bed and form to the rotor.... which if that theory is correct, would align with the Specialized getting faster in subsequent runs.

[@Blake_Cherubini]

💯🙌

[@pnwmotocross]

I wasn’t considering the pads scenario, that’s sharp. But I did suspect the enduro was faster as he was more comfy up front on the Patrol admittedly.

[@jaredrude431]

Very interesting, looks exactly the same to me though given the tiny time differentials and the challenge with lining up frames exactly (due to camera position, camera angle, shutter speed, frame rate and bike position on trail at that exact frame where each laps starts and ends). In each lap there appears to be a point where one bike is behind and then catches up. Nice video, you look to be very consistent on whatever bike you are riding.

[@Blake_Cherubini]

Yep, tried my best to keep the start/stop frames as close as possible! Thanks for watching!

[@bennysciulzze3174]

I wonder wether the Patrol is any good for racing ? The narrative seems like it was a pure fun bike. I'm looking for an agile fun bike that still can take a hit and that I can show up with on races with. Would be my 2nd bike, currently on a Remedy 8. Love it but feel like it is starting to limit me on the rough&steep. Anyone with some experience/advice on that ? Sry for my english

[@luccavirgallito4014]

What camera setup?! looked mint

[@JoshTaylor]

I'd like to see more comparison videos, but vs a totally different class bike. For example, how much slower is an entry level FS trail bike, or against a similarly spec'd modern and slack hardtail.

[@Blake_Cherubini]

Good idea!

[@jankaskyevitchjellbet7293]

Good video keep it up! I got Enduro 2020 one of the first sw limited paint job ones, still haven't cracked it. Maybe not sending hard enough? I like transition and would like to try some day. Thanks for the video!

[@Blake_Cherubini]

Thanks bud! Glad you haven’t cracked yours!

[@ollialanko699]

On such similar bikes it's good to see it's the rider that makes all the difference. If you'd want to get some difference in times you'd probably need to do longer and more technical trail/ natural trail with more roots and rocks? What do you think?

[@Blake_Cherubini]

Totally agree!

[@grapepress]

Would love to see a longer comparison maybe 4 to 5 minutes, and use Garmin, Strava or Trailforks as the timer?

[@kingstone9168]

Do it in a 3 min trail ,its interesting how the 3rd lap go to the Enduro, Like it

[@dailymtb8281]

Nive vid man keep up the good work

[@Blake_Cherubini]

Thanks bud!

[@justinsaxe4218]

It would be cool to see the spire and enduro compared on a little longer course.

[@kevinkunst4822]

This a good channel, i'm subscribing

[@Blake_Cherubini]

🙏❤️

[@kalebwalker6133]

is that black haze junior ?

[@Blake_Cherubini]

I think it is lol

[@thekingman_yt2023]

Yooooo, that looks so sick. 👌🏻 BTW, Jackson. Your cousin, suggested me this epic channel. I can’t stop watching! I subbed to you on 20 accounts I made 😏🤣😅

[@Blake_Cherubini]

Ayyyyy!🤙 thanks for watching and subbing! Shoutout to Jack 🤘

[@thekingman_yt2023]

@@Blake_Cherubini Yeah! Always welcome! Tell him I commented. Name is: Troy!

[@ioannisparaskevopoulos1120]

I like the Patrol! It is also better value for money than the Enduro...does the suspension of the Patrol have the same plushness as that on the Enduro? Waiting for the Spire comparison to the Enduro! Good job guys!

[@Shauny808]

You like the Aircraft 2? Looks sick.

[@Blake_Cherubini]

Love it other than the whistle the visor makes. Can’t hear it when riding but it’s very apparent on GoPro

[@tweaker_on_a_bike9809]

Cracked my Enduro inside the head tube. Already got another frame built up and my s-works warranty frame is on the way. Specialized needs to get their shit together. So many people break their frames.

[@Blake_Cherubini]

💯🙌

[@Antweak83]

How did u find out it was cracked? Was it making noise so u got in there and checked it?

[@scorch0248]

Don’t over tighten the headset. That’s cracking the head tubes. User error.

[@Blake_Cherubini]

False

[@mds2win676]

Hello ! What’s your suspension settings ? Nice vid btw

[@rubenvor]

Awesome compare! Do you think the Enduro still is a good bike against newer bikes? I'm in the market for a new bike, and I'm tilting towards the Enduro 👍🏼

[@Blake_Cherubini]

It’s definitely still a very good bike! I personally just like the way the Transition bikes ride. That’s just personal preference. -Chase

[@TurboLevoSam]

Get the Hope Tech 4 V4 with v4 rotors, much better than all the brakes you have mentioned.

[@michaellawhorn6870]

What are the odds I find a video of someone comparing the 2 bikes I’m considering buying

[@Blake_Cherubini]

😏😎

[@michaellawhorn6870]

@@Blake_Cherubini you ride windrock a lot? How’d you like the enduro in the steep and chunky shit? I’m pisgah local so I’m at windrock a good bit

[@Blake_Cherubini]

I ride there a good bit. Both bikes handle it well. Enduro maybe a little better because it’s a little longer and a tad more travel

[@michaellawhorn6870]

Hell yeah. That’s why I’m kinda going with the enduro. Also don’t know how I feel about a mullet bike

[@Blake_Cherubini]

Mine is for sale! m.pinkbike.com/buysell/3172697/

[@gianericpe]

since they are enduro bike you need to try it in more enduro trail with more pedal section next time

[@johnrodgersbmx]

Where is the enduro posted for sale?

[@Blake_Cherubini]

m.pinkbike.com/buysell/3172697/

[@ArturPereiraMTB]

Excellent test !

[@Blake_Cherubini]

🙏😁

[@petedog9581]

It seemed like the Enduro picked up time in the chunk and the Patrol rolled faster in the flow.

[@Blake_Cherubini]

I’d say that’s pretty accurate. Patrol is much more responsive whereas the enduro is more of a couch like ride

[@MrChadLedford]

I currently have an enduro and really like it. I have a chance to frame swap to a sentinel. Someone tell me if I should. I ride all mountain stuff int he Pisgah. I like swapping bikes.

[@LastAphelion]

So what did you do? I've been so close to pulling the trigger on one or something else

[@MrChadLedford]

@@LastAphelion I swapped to the stump jumper evo. Just found really good price. It was the right move. So much better all arounder and can ride anything. I believe the sentinel would fall in that same category.

[@williammarshall4277]

A couple of things: 1. That was a really short run, a longer run would have shown more disparity. 2. Totally disagree with the premise that brakes don’t affect speed. If you can come into a turn at higher speeds and buff down fast that is going to be much faster than slowing down much sooner into a turn. Think of a race car, you take the car with better brakes and handling over the car with more horsepower every day….because better brakes equals more speed on the course.

[@Blake_Cherubini]

Agreed. In regards to 1, I acknowledged that it was a short run multiple times… and that I didn’t expect it to be that close, so I’d like to do it on a 3-4 minute run if I do it again. 2, I agree that brakes make a difference. I meant that bars, grips, stem, drivetrain, and other small parts alike don’t really affect it. I didn’t hear Chase slip “brakes” in there when we were filming. Sorry for the confusion

[@williammarshall4277]

Thanks for the reply….you looked a lot smoother on the patrol. That ride felt pretty effortless.

[@Sdot301k]

That trail looks dumb fun

[@Blake_Cherubini]

Super fun!

[@MichaelJobLoquellano]

@Send 'er Buds I wonder how does the Transition Patrol in climbing? I would appreciate it if you can give me insights on the climbing aspect of this bike. Thank you so much! Subbed!

[@Blake_Cherubini]

As with every enduro bike I’ve been on, it climbs decent. I’m not a strong climber myself so I can’t tell a ton of difference in bikes while climbing. Biggest difference maker imo is tires due to rolling resistance

[@MichaelJobLoquellano]

@@Blake_Cherubini super. thanks for your time!

[@lorencedavechatto2628]

Sick bikes 🤘🏼

[@Blake_Cherubini]

Thanks!🤘

[@rodrigopages1054]

A 3-5 km long track would give you enough time to actually see and feel a bigger difference between the two bikes! Regardless good video 👌🏽👍🏽

[@Blake_Cherubini]

Thanks! Definitely interested to see what would happen on a longer track!

[@snat6299]

Longer runs and spire runs

[@jacksonbench3690]

Sick!! 🤙🏼

[@Blake_Cherubini]

🤘

[@JinPheh]

Out of curiosity what frame rate did you use on your gopro? Just doing some quick napkin math here but 24fps would make each frame 0.04seconds so a 1 frame difference in start and end frames would be bigger than the victory margin. Either way, you ran a super cool test. Nice work!

[@Blake_Cherubini]

It was indeed 24fps but FCPX allows me to move in increments of .01 per “frame.” Tried my best to keep the starts as even as possible. Would like to test it on a longer run so the separation won’t be soooo slim

[@jacobfarmer8162]

Switchs front wheels* doesn't keep the same rotor with the same pads* is suprised they dont work*

[@Jacoblawrence2370]

send'er bud

[@Blake_Cherubini]

Senddddd ‘er Buddddd

[@nostr8ghtlinzs596]

"it's the rider, not the bike"

[@Blake_Cherubini]

🙌

[@henry06x]

Bikes in the 2Kish and down range sell fast. Ill see 5+k sit forever.

[@nostr8ghtlinzs596]

i think you should try it on bike you never rode before. just take a day get comfortable wit it. then time it out.

[@Blake_Cherubini]

That would be fun!

[@nostr8ghtlinzs596]

@@Blake_Cherubini the thing with bike reviews, is that it is a lot personal preference. like the brakes. it all about how it feels. try bike swap for a day. then do a review based on comparison. You want the right bike for the right person.

[@ThugZ3r0]

Noce bikes! This resulsts are statistically unsignificant, btw. So you can really take care only on your feelings.

[@savagepb17]

I got 2k for the bike lol good videos man

[@dtran1742]

Surprised your struggling to sell the bike, theres barely any stock available. People paying crazy prices for bikes these days

[@Blake_Cherubini]

That’s what we thought too but it’s just not the case I guess lol

[@pjsanab]

@@Blake_Cherubini got the same issue on trail bike. Maybe I’ll have to sell the frame by itself.

[@michellemateo9762]

Giveaway mabye?🤭

[@Blake_Cherubini]

We could do something! One day we’ll giveaway some cool shit like bikes but can’t quite do that yet…

[@Myke_Juliet]

Question is, which one did YOU want to win🤪

[@Blake_Cherubini]

I really enjoy both bikes so I didn’t really have a favorite 😂 I just wanted to keep my runs as consistent as possible

[@stevehunter7402]

What do these 2 rich kids do for work? Casually ripping around on $10K bikes.

[@jasondouglass32]

statistically insignificant numbers...

[@Blake_Cherubini]

Never said they were significant

[@da12641]

ebike is faster and jumps higher

[@pjsanab]

But wait till you have mechanical issues, i.e. motor, drivetrain, battery.

[@dominicmudry7739]

numbers are cap

[@Blake_Cherubini]

🙅‍♂️🧢

[@R-D-Productionz]

hi

[@Blake_Cherubini]

👋

[@SpencerBaum]

literally margin of error. Its kinda like riding skill matters way more than what bike you're on

[@Blake_Cherubini]

Yes🙌 all bikes nowadays can be ridden fast! Find one you’re comfortable on and send ‘er!

[@maxwalker9990]

@@Blake_Cherubini unless it’s me riding the bike, then it’s allllll the bike

[@Blake_Cherubini]

You all good now tho with that Ride69 technology or whatever it’s called from Rocky✊

[@nicholascaptures]

Weird comparison

[@Blake_Cherubini]

Explain