Which is the KING of 2023 heavy trucks? Mack Anthem Diesel Truck Vs. Tesla Electric Semi?

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Which is the KING of 2023 heavy trucks? Mack Anthem Diesel Truck Vs. Tesla Electric Semi?
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Mack Anthem Diesel Truck Vs. Tesla's Electric Semi
It has been a long wait of almost five years, Tesla's electric Semi truck will finally be delivered to the first customer. The birth of the Tesla Semi worried many long-standing rivals, especially Mack, a 117-year truck manufacturer. As an emerging candidate, the Tesla Semi makes a fantastic impression with its acceleration of only 5 seconds.
However, Mack also introduces the Mack Anthem truck as a highway monster that offers power no other car can match. So, how can Tesla Semi defeat its formidable fuel-powered rival, Mack Anthem?
Let’s find out in today’s episode of Tesla Car World!
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Tesla has revolutionized the global electric mobility movement with its quirky and efficient passenger vehicles. The Semi is not just any truck, it’s a zero-emission freight-hauling cargo machine that trumps traditional oil guzzlers like the Mack Anthem on all fronts like performance, payload, speed, interior, technology, economy, and operational costs.
So how is the electric motor of the Tesla Semi more powerful than that of the Mack Anthem?
Which is the KING of 2023 heavy trucks? Mack Anthem Diesel Truck Vs. Tesla Electric Semi?

[@TeslaCarWorld]

Something HUGE is Happening: Elon Musk - The Rebel of Reshaping The World kzbin.info/www/bejne/nZyrgommaKp1gJo

[@tgeep87]

Not even he created a battery powered truck it can never outrun a diesel truck you’re going to see the electrical system burning in a down grade as in Virginia Kentucky strawberry peak Colorado mountains this is going to be hilarious prove me wrong it’s an untested in a mountain setting so spare me the verbal hype that you’ve never driven a 24 1813 10 spare your retorted comparison

[@williamscoggin1509]

@@tgeep87 the Tesla semi is designed to cover all of the local regional routes, not cross country over the road. Seems sad that this is the only feature that you can brag on as far as the Mac is that it has a big sleeper and can operate over the road which is not the realm of Tesla semi as of yet. You don't talk about any of the expense of the Mac the entire the video. Fuel oil truck cost when bought brakes transmission repair engine repairs and on and on

[@animalloverjulian8243]

He Tesla semi originally had 4 model 3 motors, now they’re achieving the same specs with only 3 motors. This means a more powerful motor, I think the semi now uses the plaid motors from the model S/X. We’re looking at up to a 1000+ hp power train.

[@matslanden4388]

Elon Musk, - even nuttier than Howard Hughes.

[@southshore8911]

It's going to be short lived soon as these trucks are exposed to the below zero temperatures of the great mountains of Wyoming route 80 Musk trucks will be all broken down in below zero temperatures on mountain tops of the West

[@eugenes9751]

Worrying about a truck's acceleration is like worrying about a supercar's luggage space.

[@phazekiller5701]

lol, the true worry is actually how unstable semis are already, they are all prone to tipping and rolling, I'm also curious if tesla is developing tires rated for all that excess weight and speed they're boasting. Those tires are not meant for highspeeds and if they do go fast they're not meant to be for too long. I'm just imagining someone trying to do a 100 towing 80,000 pounds at this point...

[@rocknh68]

@@phazekiller5701 18 wheeler tires are speed and weight rated. They can be ran at loaded at 100mph and not blow.

[@phazekiller5701]

@@rocknh68 I'm sure they didn't set those 75 mph caps for a reason either, and why the trucks are now governed at 60-65. However speed has never been the issue with a semi, it's the control and stopping seeing as you already need 450 feet to stop just doing 50 mph, maybe these truck like tesla cars have figured out how to stop an 80,000 lbs semi on a dime and we haven't been told about it yet. I doubt it but hey one can only hope.

[@rocknh68]

@@phazekiller5701 looks like you're already over educated on the subject so I'll just stand corrected.

[@Blueknight1960]

@@phazekiller5701 Unstable? Have you ever ridden in an 18 wheeler? They are pretty damn stable. But like any vehicle going around a curve too fast, they can roll over. Tesla's claim of 82,000 lbs is bogus, at 82,000 lbs, the tesla and any 18 wheeler will be over the legal weight by 2000 lbs. The Mack will also pull a lot more than the 80,000 lbs legal weight limit with a permit but the tesla will also need a permit to go over 80,000lbs. As far as the tires, unless it's a racing tire, any tire will fail with high speeds and distance. Since the speed limit is at most 75 mph in some of the western states, 70 mph in others and 65 and below in others, high speed isn't really an issue is it? Plus except for a few owner/operators, most trucks (company trucks) are governed at between 65-68 mph. An 18 wheeler could run all day loaded at 75-80 mph without worrying about a tire failure as long as they are not retreads. Those pieces of truck tires you see on the side and on the road are from retreads. The speed limit on roads aren't set because of trucks, it's suppose to be a safety thing concerning ALL vehicles. The trucks being governed at 65-68 mph is more of a fuel saving thing than safety, although truck drivers of today are poorly trained and aren't smart enough to figure things out on their own. The things truck drivers are getting away with today would not have been tolerated when I was driving over the road.

[@alfchlopecki7673]

I always thought that range and maximum load are the most important things for a truck.

[@myria2834]

It is among the most important. The other important metric I'd want to know is the real refueling cost. Sure the electricity is cheaper than fuel right now, but you also have to account for the miles lost every day from sitting at a recharge station. You get paid for the distance you can move the product, if it takes longer to make delivery, you are less competitive.

[@davidharraden6223]

@@myria2834 that was my question as well if you assume 200mile max before refuel the mac will be back on the road in under 20mins i would assume

[@manoharmeka999]

Head to head collision...electric truck debris will be delivered to Musk.

[@bodhisfattva7462]

operational cost is the most important. Very few semis run with a full load anyhow. It isnt like some evil game of jenga loading a truck to the max for every load...and range is really only important for long haul applications and this semi is not really designed for long haul as there is no sleeper...this is a day cab so 350+ mile range should get the job done in 99% of uses. Now if the semi is say over 12,000 pounds heavier than an ICE semi...now you are severely cutting into load...

[@Gazzxy]

yes and the tesla truck has less of both

[@andreasbohm8210]

I think the main feature is the money you can earn during the week, than the money you'll spend. It's not about fuel economy, but also about the time for rechardging the battery.

[@johan.ohgren]

@@karlwithak1835 not true. A truck will usually pass to another driver while the first one is off. A truck will often work two or three shifts under different drivers.

[@MegamanTheSecond]

@@karlwithak1835 spoken like a true Tesla Stan real world application is meaningless SEXY 0-60 times only matter

[@tfyoutalmbout]

@@johan.ohgren that's not how it works.

[@johan.ohgren]

@@tfyoutalmbout yes, it is. One truck, one driver is the exception to the rule.

[@tfyoutalmbout]

@@johan.ohgren in what country are OTR drivers sharing trucks? Certainly not the USA. This video is about OTR, not local drivers.

[@CN.23]

The Tesla Semi sounds good, but real world test data will be required especially when hauling heavy loads as no doubt this will affect the range. Things like charge time, charge locations on routes, durability, quality and battery replacement cost will all be factors to consider.

[@llewellynjameskinnaird2741]

True. Also pulling loads wears any vehicle down over time. Would like to see how tesla truck longevity is.

[@bodhisfattva7462]

@@llewellynjameskinnaird2741 overall maintenance is vastly cheaper on electric motor vehicles. This will be one of the major selling points for the semi once charging stations are on any long haul paths. I am sure insurance will also be vastly cheaper to operate these as well due to a near impossibility of run away conditions and less of jackknife risk.

[@CN.23]

If something goes wrong with the battery it will no doubt cost an arm and leg to replace. The battery will obviously be larger than the standard Tesla battery and those supposdly cost 12k -14k to replace if done through the company or dealership.

[@printgymnast368]

@@llewellynjameskinnaird2741 probably garbage considering their cars have a history of bad quality parts and excessive breakage

[@printgymnast368]

@@CN.23 yeah the battery will probably cost 30k to replace with labor including and they'll have to change it every couple years if they want to keep the range

[@ruggedtechie5867]

Let's see how it does in winter. In a blizzard. In bad traction situations .......in the mountains or remote areas where there's no chargers. There is alot to get worked out.

[@erniefernandez7775]

I love the “Zero emissions” saying. It’s more like exporting the emissions to other countries that do the mining for lithium. I’m sure there’s some type of oil based lubricant for the gears in the Tesla. Another strike against “zero emissions” And we can’t forget about the Heavy Duty grease that’ll be needed on the fifth wheel. And Tesla took down the pricing of their semi on their site once the $40k rebate was announced. I believe the Tesla Semi’s base price jumped up about $40k now. Interesting how that worked out.

[@kenbowser5622]

Exactly what it is. I don't wonder why they don't show those pics of lithium mines in Africa. I've seen them.

[@1KentKent]

Do lubricants and grease cause emissions? Are you talking about the refining process? If so, that's pretty small.

[@1KentKent]

@@kenbowser5622 The lithium mines are in Australia, Chile and China. Cobalt is in Africa and Tesla is moving away from Cobalt in their batteries.

[@jeffs7707]

Forgot to menion all the power generation it takes to charge the batteries.

[@cutty02]

@@jeffs7707 charging these through a power plant is nearly 6x more efficient than burning fuel in the engine.

[@kiwidiesel]

Small point on engine brake activation, When the system is active it will engage the moment you release the throttle pedal and stay engaged until you reapply throttle or clutch pedal or turn it off via steering wheel switch.

[@Arturo-lapaz]

With an electric motor the braking is a regenerative one, controllable, the motor acting as a generator until at low speed you apply normal brakes.

[@johnsadler6534]

One trucker friend wondered about seeing to back up while sitting in the middle of the cab. He stated backing up with 2 inches on one side and 4 inch on the other side would be a challenge. He hangs out the window on his truck.

[@bodhisfattva7462]

that is what the camera's are for with large screens...I also imagine before the hoi polloi can get these they will have perfected automated park functions. It will be years before individuals will be able to get these.

[@poorlittlebiker6476]

If they allow an exemption for Tesla’s to carry more weight, it’ll only be a matter of time that either diesel truck makers or truck companies push to be able to carry that same weight. And call me crazy, but I’ve seen how some truckers drive like they are on a race track, having a performance truck like this is scary in the hands of some of these drivers 😓

[@marciliojunior4919]

Most trucks are carring more weight than the law says already

[@Lafly84]

Get ready for more cries of trucks are destroying our roads...

[@bodhisfattva7462]

the extra weight is to mitigate the extra weight of electric semis as they are much much heavier than diesel...diesel semis already can haul more than any electric truck even with the 2k extra weight they get.

[@alanmay7929]

In Europe trucks are much powerful and also hauls significantly way more payload just look at Scandinavian trucks

[@savageduck4487]

Here in Australia, that would not fly. All main arterial roads have weigh bridges and all trucks have to go through them. We have a law following the chain of responsibility, therefore if the driver stuffs up he cops a fine, the guy who loaded him gets a fine just as big or larger and it follows right up to the owner of the company who got the truck loaded. Avoiding the weigh bridges are pointless as it will take them a longer and more expensive route and local police also know and monitor any of those roads to catch drivers overdoing their hours. Also here in Australia I dont think they will allow higher amount of weight for an EV as the idea is about the safe weight for stopping and damage to roads. I am sure the Tesla Semi will tow what any other prime mover can, but many drivers here are also contractors who get paid by the KM and the load, so swift energy gain via fuel v electric will be put in consideration. I only see this vehicle as delivery to local city bulk stores, not the long haul as 500 mile then charge for a while at a normal charging station for longer than it can to fill with diesel.

[@kanob6440]

I really don't care about 0 to 60 in a truck. But I can say as a truck driver it would be cool to get on the freeway and merge a lot easier.

[@Alec72HD]

That what 0-60 is for. So you can merge safely and allow for smoother traffic flow.

[@rafaelcadena44]

Many questions have yet to be answered. I definitely respect Musk for his ingenious capabilities! My questions and concerns: The test stated 500 miles w/82k GCW, where did this test take place? What was the terrain like? Weather conditions? I can see 500 on slight to mild hilly terrain, definitely flat but mountain terrain of 6% or greater, definitely not, how hot did the motors get? What is the operating temp (minimum to max)before the system sends warnings? What is the warranty like? Hrs to yrs? (Electric motors are based off hrs not miles) what is the cost of the motors and batteries to replace? As one has to know that they are and will be EXTREMELY expensive! I've worked in the oil industry and we've had to replace our 3 phase 1200hp motors time to time and let's just say, for 1, would equate to a in-frame on a CAT and if a battery replacement cost $28k on a chevy volt, imagine on a ES!? How long does it take to fully charge? As we run on Electronic Log Devices w/11hr drive time, 14hrs total daily shift. Off 11hrs we can travel 700 +/-, on a full tank (I hold 280 gal) I can go 975 miles and have a 1/7 tank left (70 gals) fill up in 15 min and move on... If a ES can't at least travel 700 miles with a good tail wind on a 60k to 70k GCW, then it's not worth a OTR's time. It'll definitely be worth carriers time that do local and regional work, that's it. Lastly, when it comes to performance, I'd say, maybe 1% of the individuals in the trucking industry think of how fast they can get to 60mph. We O/O's think of quality, durability, longevity, gear ratio, hp and tq (no not to race but to match to what we haul). IF you wanted to make a true statement, you can make a ES w/a small NG generator (as NG is one of the most purest forms of clean fuels with zero emissions) that ONLY kicks on when a low battery signal is sent, the NG gen would automatically start while the driver continues on his/her travels and once the batteries are fully charged the gen shuts down. Until something like this is offered, individuals that do OTR will never entertain a ES.

[@bobjeans]

What people don’t understand trailer semi truck they made for business they made to transport heavy materials they made to run long distance. The only thing you can save on an electric semi truck is maintenance.

[@bodhisfattva7462]

you cant legally drive over 8 hrs without a mandatory 30 min break. Part 395 of the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Regulations is pretty clear about how long one can operate a semi per the guidelines for 14 hr windows. Without 2 30 min stops you wont be able to reliably hit your max up time in the 14 hour windows unless you are hauling on an overall down grade. In a few years when solid state batteries leave the lab and are in production you will be able to drive vastly longer than any current fuel driven vehicle as they have 2x and more charge capacity to current lithium batteries but today you will lose around 40 mins if you only take one 30 min break during the day and have access to more than one semi charger. side note you cant legally drive more than 715 miles per day by federal law and that is if you average 65 miles per hour as it isnt legal for a singler person to drive more than 11 hours in a stretch with 1 30 min break mandatory to break up the 11 hrs. as you do not seem to know the federal law I will instruct you. 11-Hour Driving Limit: a driver is allowed to drive a maximum of 11 hours following 10 consecutive hours off duty. 14-Hour Limit: a driver may not drive beyond the 14th consecutive hour after coming on duty (which comes after 10 hours off duty). Additional off-duty time does not extend the 14 hours. 30-Minute Driving Break: a driver must take a 30-minute break when they have driven for 8 cumulative hours without at least a 30-minute interruption. 60/70-Hour Limit: a driver may not drive after 60/70 hours on duty in seven/eight consecutive days. They can start this period again following 34 or more consecutive hours off duty.

[@bodhisfattva7462]

@@bobjeans you dont seem to be acquainted with Part 395 of the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Regulations...you cant legally drive more than 715 miles in a day if you average 65 miles an hr. There is nowhere in the USA that you can operate a semi for longer than 11 hrs with a mandatory 30 min break after no longer than 8 hrs of operation. You should educate yourself on the 11 and 14 hour driving limits set by the federal government. Oddly enough 500+350 is more than 715 miles so...the tesla can be in operation for the full 11 or 14 hr windows. It is better to know facts than to be ignorant and spout garbage.

[@uni4rm]

@@bodhisfattva7462 So you are admitting that without the regulations in place the Tesla wouldn't be competitive.

[@brianjones2891]

They did the 500 mile test runs loaded to just under 82k and went from Pasadena to San Diego, which included the Grapevine which is a 6% grade. They do not even have to touch the brakes on the downhill side due to the regenerative breaking keeping the vehicle at a steady speed. Also, they were going up the 6% grade with NO speed loss. They climbed it at speed limit. You can see the video on it here. kzbin.info/www/bejne/nHzLeqKEptt1mrc

[@XxXNinjaFanXxX]

once i saw the channel name i knew this would be a fair comparison video

[@bobf12]

I am a retired trucker.....I don't want either one. My favorite ride was a Volvo. Pretty comfortable ride. No sleeper? ya gotta sleep on the deck plate?

[@wrecker8236]

Efficiency is everything when it comes to trucks. Fuel economy is the number one most crucial thing. Number 2 is reliability. Number 3 is ease of maintenance and repair. All three of these things mack has 117 years of experience to perfect.

[@macrichardson7440]

It would be a great design to put the sleeper OVER the drive compartment. All of that space is just a hollow shell. Why not use it

[@alonzosmith5075]

As a truck driver speaking for other truck drivers.... that's not a desirable option

[@whatusernameis5295]

as someone that's not a trucker. I would hate that due to how hard it would be to get into

[@ibrahimcehajic]

Spend 24 hours in a semi and tell me how many different temperature zones you find especially summer time in the southwest

[@ChummiaChan]

As a gearhead I am okay with Electric vehicles as long as we will have a choice between Internal Combustion Engine vehicles and those that are electric, I think that both of these vehicles have their uses, however one cannot be compared to another, since both of these trucks are completely different worlds, I personally prefer ICE vehicles and I am stunned that a pickup truck like 2022 RAM 3500 Dually Cummins High Output puts out 1085lbft of torque, which is just 400-600lbft than a fricking semi-truck. I am really excited for electric Semi Trucks, however I don't see them completely taking over the good old regular Internal Combustion Engine Cars, Pickup Trucks, Semis, or even Busses, since one type of vehicle will always be better from another and vise versa. Consumer's ability of choice is the key.

[@gordonwade2914]

It's got to be Mack for me any day of the week

[@craigcullen4171]

Yep the Mack Athem is the better truck has more power “torque” can pull more weight from 70 ton to 150 ton with the mp8 or mp10. More than one trailer doubles, triples and quad combinations are common in other countries . Also more manoeuvreable “shorter wheel base” easy to back those trailers up and round a corner. Up to 1400 miles on one charge . Wider range of applications , works better in hot climates . Drive train warranty of 900,000 mile. The Mack is an excellent choice. Tesla has a way to go to catch Mack but I’m sure they will get there over time. Tesla will be a good city truck or short run truck light loads stop start work.

[@NOoNe21]

It's likely VERY telling that the Load Capacity was never mentioned. To break it down what i mean as low as i can. How much of the 82K pounds total capacity is allotted to cargo? Just saying it can move 82K or whatever is not enough. The point of a semi is to move a shit ton of cargo. Not 0 to 60 acceleration. Speed can damage the freaking cargo guys. All of the fluff like wireless phone chargers, an extra tall cab and 2 screens should absolutely not take away from the facts. No Autopilot as standard as previously promised, the need for extra infrastructure just to charge them and the missing price should be shooting up more red flags than praise.

[@SuperCarFan-we2ug]

I think the semi will be really successful. It may also help the business as a whole because of autopilot. You can relax during your journey, grap a water with no issues, and a ton more. These Tesla trucks should also be really safe because as shown with the Tesla cars Tesla is very good at making safe vehicles. I don’t get all the hate.

[@stolendew9574]

1 distance truckers are paid by the mile average is $0.55 for a company driver so if your truck can only go 65 mph like most trucks are governed at and you can only go 500 miles max before charging your looking at $275 a day vs with a traditional truck where you can run 650 max governed the same without having to fuel that day or the next you would make $357. Your taking $100 a day away from a driver. 2 The charge time. How long will it take to charge all those batteries? Average Tesla takes 6-15 hours to charge. That all has to be done with the driver being on duty wasting hours they are allowed to work. (70 hrs in a 8 day time frame in case you were unaware) and with the Tesla semi having more batteries than their average car your looking at even longer charge times. Causing productivity to go down and drivers to loose more money because we don’t make money if the wheels aren’t turning. 3 We don’t want anymore safety crap in the trucks. Anything that takes control away from the driver is unsafe. How will the Tesla handle going down 9% grades fully loaded especially without a jake brake or even the ability to down shift? Plus we have already seen fatalities and major accidents from people in teslas trusting the self driving mode you really want to risk that in a big rig that could be hauling explosives or dangerous chemicals? 4 This thing wasn’t designed with the driver in mind if it was they wouldn’t have set the passenger seat behind the driver seat eating up valuable room for a sleeper. A good portion of truckers are bigger guys and don’t wanna climb up a bunk bed every day to go to bed. We spend more time in our trucks than at home we want some comfort and Tesla obviously didn’t ask us before they designed this thing. Elon just saw a chance to make a ton of money and it’ll be money from the truck drivers pockets that pay him. In summery lost wages due to charge time lost productivity due to charge time worse safety due to taking it away from truckers who mind you many have well over 500,000 safe miles under their belt more than most people will go in their lives. Not to mention all the driving training they got and continue to get from their companies. And finally the greed of Elon taking money out of the under paid over worked trucker driver so he can say I invented an electric big rig yeah it isn’t practical and it doesn’t care about the people who have to basically live in it but I’m rich so who cares.

[@travish585]

the electric tesla semi economics is so good that they can make and ship out worldwide 1,000,000 units and still have demand.

[@diecastgoblin]

The difference is that the mack will actually be struggling and still pulling loads close to a quarter of a million pounds while the Tesla just won't do it.

[@franksoko8522]

Most road trucks run 500 to 600 miles. And I don't belive they can run those miles with a 40 to 50,000 lbs load. Plus in real cold weather the batteries lose a certain amount of energy . But I guess we will see.

[@allangibson8494]

Tesla has demonstrated a 500 mile range at a gross weight of 81,000lb. The range comes at the expense of the Tesla prime mover weighing 27,000lb.

[@sharonbraselton4302]

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[@zmavrick]

@@allangibson8494 Yes and that was going from 97 to 4 % charge. Lithium batteries should only range between 20 and 90 % on a regular basis. So that 500 mile demonstration was pretty worthless to a truck driver.

[@lordzooka]

Great video but why compare it with a Mack truck? The right comparison would be to Mack's parent Volvo. The Volvo VNR electric is rated at 455 hp and 4.051 lb/ft. The Tesla Semi would have been really innovative if they had made the extra space work and added a toilet and shower to the truck. Other brands offer trucks at over 600 HP and 2050 lb/ft torque with the Cummins ISX15 or Detroit DD16. The real downside to electric trucks is A: charging, which means loosing money and you cannot just get a high voltage charger installed without a permit and some serious power lines and B: driving in the winter without the heater on because your range will probably be problematic and good luck getting those charging caps open at 5°F or lower.

[@WhatsUpLand]

You pump the heat that the motors and battery pack create into the cabin just like you do with ICE engines off of their respective cooling systems.

[@rogergeyer9851]

Zord: You can't spell "losing" and you don't seem to know that the Tesla will charge 70% for 350 miles range in a scant 30 minutes. When the Volvo can out accelerate the Tesla from 0-60, be sure and get back to us.

[@lordzooka]

@@rogergeyer9851 I am sorry that my spelling has offended you. I typed this while in by bunk bed. Tesla has been vague on the details of charging those trucks other than pulling 1MW from the grid. Musk said that he likes nuclear power so maybe he will invest portable nuclear power stations to provide electricity to those truck. Good luck trying to sell those trucks overseas where power is much more expensive and the grid even less reliable at times. The whole idea of having a center cockpit position is probably to allow for global sales in LHD and RHD countries alike. Fast charging would not be the issue if it actually worked. A lot of super chargers are now getting to the point where you can charge at full power. If the high power grid fails, The truck would need over 9000 Amps @ 110V to fast charge, which would melt the cables. So instead of 30 or even 60 minutes, it will be hours. 30 minutes would be quite reasonable as you would have to take breaks anyway and filling up a regular truck with diesel also can take quite some time. We have a Daimler electric rollback. which is quite nice actually. Our range with some reserve is about 146 miles and it is supposed to support a similar fast charging as Tesla offers. Currently we charge it with a 360V outlet for 2.5 hours, which is perfectly fine for local towing and recovery tasks. Now assuming you would charge it for 2 hours to get some range to the next fast charger which you hope is free and working better, you are still loosing 1/4 of a working day in profits and in some instances have to face penalty charges . On paper it all sounds amazing. The acceleration btw. is the only point that sells me on electric trucks. I could probably make a daily trip on a single charge if those numbers are correct. Let's wait and see what actually happens and how they will solve the issue of the electric power grid. Btw. all of big truck manufacturers are investing in more or less the same fast charging infrastructure in the US at the moment, so maybe there is a chance that this will work in couple of years.

[@benlou3758]

Honestly probably the most appealing thing for drivers would be the technology and entertainment it brings. If you're going to live in your truck a lot, having entertainment from Tesla computer would be nice. Otherwise it would be auto-pilot would I'm sure Truck drivers would love.

[@tommypugh1234]

The following are currently Tesla Semi problems: current 500 mile range is less that the 800+ mile range of long haul trucks. there is no sleeper cab version and other cab configuration problems Electric vehicle charging infrastructure currently takes 4 hours or more to charge a 900 kWh pack to 70% or more

[@pixelnobs]

theres a reason why elon musk isn't talking about load capacity

[@CybeargPlays]

How do they compare on distance between refueling/recharging and length of time to recharge/refuel? Unless they’re comparable, I feel like the acceleration and most of those specs are minor by comparison, apart from the max haul weight.

[@origionalwinja]

diesel truck will have 1200 to 1500 mile range and will take about 10 to 15 minutes to refuel. tesla has a range of about 400 to absolute max of 500 miles and takes around 10 hours to recharge.....

[@robslaney3729]

@@origionalwinja Based on the chemistry in the way these batteries work you should never deplete the battery, and trying to full charge it will take longer and slower the closer it gets to full capacity. Most EVs are recommended to alternate between 10/20 -> 80%. So quote a range on 100% -> 0% is stupid. It's a bit like all manufacturer's quoted fuel consumption, it based in laboratory conditions that don't exist in the real world driving.

[@grahamstuart9432]

So somebody out there thinks it's a good idea to go 0 to 60 in 20 seconds with the loaded trailer? It's gonna be interesting to see the carnage that causes. It seems like a good idea if you have the ability to recharge your truck out on the highway. The thing is absolutely useless if you don't. You will notice that they have not added in the cost of hotel rooms. There is an extra $700 a week. Another $250 a week for food because there's no place to do your cooking in that truck from what I can see from the pictures. Now the average car drives 25000 km a year. And the average Tesla battery pack needs to be replaced every 5 years at a cost of approximately $25000. The average truck drives 10 times that distance. So add another $50000 a year for new battery packs. Don't complain to me, do the math. That's right folks, unless Tesla has figured out how to either give away free battery packs or make the battery pack last longer than 200000 km, These long haul truckers are gonna have to replace the battery packs every 6 months. And there's absolutely no infrastructure in place anywhere for repairs to your new Tesla semi. No thank you.

[@Dontslaythybroski]

This wont age well😂

[@tadshort]

Travel and testing on flat ground is wonderful for the electric truck, but with full 80,000 and mountains to climb and to decent will be the real test of the truck, travelling the distance from coast to coast in a time frame of the Diesel engine will be the other test to complete, also will need to rest in a cab that has no bed to lay down in and not all hotel have truck parking, there is going to bigger problems to overcome.

[@donaldduck7628]

It has been the insurance companies that have stood on the heads of truck drivers having additional power. The truck computers have been detuned for decades because insurance rates go through the roof if the truck has too much speed or power.

[@williamlanphar630]

Your assessment of the area behind the drivers seat as being " a significant amount of space " is , let's say generous. You are , also , ignoring the fact that the entry door is in this area effectively preventing ANY bed installation.

[@cdp200442]

Nothing like a diesel when your in the middle of nowhere.

[@BuckInchuteranch1]

Also, everyone calls these EV’s 0 emissions, but nobody talks about how much more pollution is put out building them, compared to current vehicles. And the disposal of the lithium batteries once they’ve expired. Highly toxic waste.

[@pramit7745]

Don't know why I hate Mostly Ev design. I love more conventional design I just love the sound of a Traditional engine ❤️

[@kpop863]

damn the mack instrument panel is a failure alone. i think they need at least 10 more buttons. a few more gallons of diesel fuel in the tank, and the engine could be a little bigger. lmao

[@carholic-sz3qv]

Nonsense!!!! How is it a failure when it actually works!? Tell me!? Which trucks did Tesla used to build their factories in records times!? Was it any crappy electric truck!? Lol😅😅😅😅 a diesel truck can literally work 24/7

[@carholic-sz3qv]

The MACK doesn’t need more power because even with 600hp it litteraly goes much more than even a 1000hp tesla semi!

[@carholic-sz3qv]

On diesel trucks you can actually configure with bigger fuel tanks for more range and even more flexibility which is impossible with EVs.

[@carholic-sz3qv]

A scania 770s with you guess 770hp literally haul 4 times the tesla 82,000lbs

[@kpop863]

@@carholic-sz3qv not until it runs out of diesel fuel. didnt take long for someone to get upset over a joke. calm down and go sniff some diesel.

[@Glidescube]

In trucking range is everything. The less fuel stops to ou make the more likely you'll make your deadlines.

[@bbenton1996]

Maybe for daycabs this could be feasible but not for a sleeper. 500mi? Traditional semis can last up to around 1,500-2,000mi on their tanks there's no way that you will be able to efficiently charge these trucks unless you have chargers in the docks that the trucks can plug into. We are still a long way from adopting regular passenger cars much less haulers.

[@TroySavary]

Well Pepsi just said in an interview that the range is 400 miles pulling chips and 100 mies pulling soda. I don't think there will be any regret from the companies who choose a diesel truck over the Tesla.

[@bedinor]

To expect technology to be perfect from the get-go is the dumbest argument you can ever make. Was the Model T faster than a horse and carriage? No, of course not. The Tesla will improve with time and that's just how technology works. I'm sure the combustion diesel engines will become more efficient too. They are great for short distance deliveries and if delivery location put chargers in at loading docks then that's even better for the seller. Right now of course combustion vehicles are better for long range, but that doesn't mean every single one on the road needs to be one. Diesel is going to only go up in price over the years, even if its goes up and down for a little bit. Companies will end up making a choice and in the end, it will be a Tesla or one of the other 4-5 electric trucks being developed.

[@TroySavary]

@@bedinor Electric motors, batteries and trucks are all old technology. It isn't like they are breaking new ground. Besides, I wasn't asking for it to be perfect, but just to perform as advertised.

[@richardkaz2336]

Funny how they haven't released the weight of the truck and battery and how this drastically reduces the distance the truck can travel with a full payload on a long haul and the time spent recharging

[@Rimrock300]

90% of semi truck loads in the US weighs in at 73000lbs or less. Musk states that in worst case his trucks will weigh 2000-4000lbs more than a diesel. And taking in concideration that eletric trucks in the US are allowed to carry 2000lbs extra, total weigth 82000lbs, there are not a drastically difference regarding load capacity in the big picture.

[@pauldewar626]

Elon..”Starting with performance”. How about we start with load capacity? They didn’t mention the most important stat because it invalidates the entire sales pitch.

[@grunt98444]

Except the Semi is the more powerful Model S Plaid motors. Over a thousand hp

[@iNick90]

How many times you think the driver will pick up spilled and toppled pallets after accelerating like that 😂 One time i was in a hurry and had to pickup 5000 avocadoes, 300 water melons, countless strawberries and more in my trailer. Never did that again

[@LegalEliminator]

there are so many factors that will go into weather these tesla trucks will be worthy. the main part is all about the battery packs, specifically the range, time to charge and longevity of the cells. EV tech just isnt ready for big applications like this. the range of the top spec model may be 500 miles but what happens to that range when the truck is fully loaded? there's that rather infamous video by hoovies garage about the f150 lightning that shows the range is cut significantly when towing. even if the range remains largely the same, what about time to charge? given that even with the fastest charging tech a full charge in the largest range tesla takes an hour or so. given how much bigger the capacity is with the trucks, the wait time could potentially be multiple hours. that adds up quickly if you're making a delivery that requires you to go over 1000 miles each way. the last part is how long a battery pack will last before it needs to be replaced. even if the previous two things turn out to be optimal, that means nothing if you have to replace the pack every 100,000 miles. the cost of replacing one of those battery packs would probably total the truck too. even taking into account the maintenance costs of a traditional truck, given how expensive replacing a pack in current EVs is, it wouldnt make any financial sense in the long run. current battery tech is barely suitable for basic passenger cars, what makes tesla think it's going to be anywhere near good enough for the industrial sector? only when battery tech improves will E-trucks will be a viable option. until then this is going to produce some hype but it's then going to fall into obscurity when the flaws of the current battery tech rear their heads.

[@RonaldCollins]

that tax credit doesn't go to commercial vehicles, and tesla's tax credits were used up a while ago

[@SilverfoxJB]

That acceleration is downright dangerous and I imagine when the batteries need changing the whole thing is getting dumped

[@marcelosasso9538]

I just couldn't hold my laughter when he said that the Tesla semi trumps conventional semis in payload. That is an absolute gem. Also, how much time to charge one of those bad boys? I really can't understand these Elon simps.

[@stephanweinberger]

@5:39 I think you may want to revisit this section of the video... Unfortunately Tesla has not yet released the actual weight of the tractor, so we can only estimate the payload from the videos we've seen so far. But in any case the payload should be closer to 50,000 lbs (ok, technically this is "greater than 2000 lbs").

[@sarkaaridaftar4333]

Its not the horsepower that is important for trucks rather it is the torque which is more critical. More torque means you can haul heavier loads with ease.

[@Alec72HD]

Can you explain the difference between those ?

[@Brommear]

Time will tell what the cost advantages/disadvantages will be over a million kilometers or more. Servicing cost on the diesel vs replacement batteries on the Tesla for example.

[@digitalclips]

Those Tesla screens really create massive blind spots!

[@jay-fh6wp]

I prefer the mack

[@GA-xo5vb]

What about the elephant in the room? The energy grid. There's blackouts everywhere now because the generating stations can't keep up with the demand. So how are they going to power all of these electric cars, especially since a lot of the dams don't have the water to create electricity

[@martincday007]

Not sure where the cost of the Tesla-Semi came from as I haven't seen that announced, also load carrying capacity. The fully laden 500 mile trip didn't actually say how much of that weight was truck and how much was cargo. It makes people wonder why the unladen weight of the Tesla is never stated, surely if it was good, it would be, after all, the design of the coffee cup holder and the mobile phone charger get a mention 0-60 speed for a semi is completely irrelevant but if it does become a factor it needs to also say how much each maximum launch would then impact on the range. There was much talk of the charging capacity being a whopping 1+ MW (1,000+ kW) DC, but that was "planned", is that in another five years, and when it comes it will take some infrastructure development because having a few trucks charging at that rate will need their own electrical sub-station. It wasn't clear how many Tesla-Semis Pepsi were getting and after the Tesla-semi delivery event, there were more questions than answers.

[@bedinor]

Pepsi got like 36 and getting more this year. But right now, the Tesla is great for smaller/local deliveries. Technology will improve but for now combustion trucks will own the interstates. The model T wasn't faster than a horse and carriage so all is required is time, and patience.

[@martincday007]

@@bedinor " right now, the Tesla is great for smaller/local deliveries" - that is not what was being promoted in the Tesla-Semi delivery event. In the presentation there was no holding back, the assertion was that the Tesla-Semi hands down beats diesel and rail and the Tesla-Semi can carry a full load 500 miles on a single charge, can recharge 70% in 30 minutes and accelerate from 0-60 fully loaded in 20 seconds. Those of us that don't take everything that Musk says at face value find that hard to believe. Penn and Teller perform tricks, not magic. If the Tesla-Semi is aimed at local delivery for lighter loads, then the Tesla-Semi has a lot of competition from other manufactures who are already in production and the Tesla-Semi is not the game changer Musk says it is.

[@xavierharris9065]

I would put my money on an old CabOver. If something goes wrong I can fix it or get the 😎 Tree mechanic. If the wheels ain't moving them I ain't making money.

[@Hacunamattata]

As a over the road trucker I'm out 6 months at a time A tesla would be a pain to work with The mack anthem is very small But I would take the anthem over a tesla any day of the week. I own a 2019 t680 Kentworth So far tesla is not good for what I do for a living

[@Alec72HD]

Tesla is a perfect company truck for short or regional haul. Plenty of companies work in that range.

[@lousicoussecret6765]

Yeah the Tesla Semi is cool and all but it has 1 commonly problem, it wont fit in some bridges (going under) because of its height.

[@diggernash1]

The Tedla truck will be able to carry less cargo weight. The tractor will be heavier than its diesel counterlarts; but most loads cube out any way.

[@andreasklossek9252]

4:55 Till a certain speed, the cD value adds nothing to the 0-60 time.... but hey :) what ever makes Tesla shines brighter :)

[@Scott-sm9nm]

haha, not just motors from the Model S (Sedan) but from the Plaid version of it!

[@James_Carr]

Okay it’s engine has more HP but you’re forgetting about supper chargers or turbos + more that add HP

[@thisguy9638]

Tesla's truck will only be plausible if it's local work

[@TeslaCarWorld]

Exactly

[@jacksonhutson9155]

When he doesn’t realize it doesn’t matter on the HP of the motor it’s the torque per pound.

[@ChristopherKovacsw0anm]

What about the cargo total weight that each can carry? Batteries are very heavy and I questions Tesla's Total cargo weight surpassing a standard diesel semi.

[@planet43]

What is its load capacity compared to the Mack? It’s pointless comparing combined weight as it could be a 20 ton battery and 5 ton weight capacity…

[@fistofthesnortstar]

Battery will be worn out within 6 months of daily use, so yeah, have fun with that.

[@ldrivadrivah8049]

I’ll take the Mack tuck every single time. Those rookies can have that battery garbage.

[@danielmiddleton2900]

The Tesla semi truck with its 900 kWh battery is going to be the first truck that actually causes problems for the consumers.

[@gamingwithnick1029]

The Scania v8 starts at 520hp 2700nm and goes up to 770hp 3700nm

[@raelighty6083]

No gas....No oil.....Less repairs.... All of this equals savings and convience. 500 miles per charge!!! Its time to let Gas and oil go already...

[@Roscomfomfom]

Yeahhhhh 80k is the max legal weight according to federal law without permits. I drove vision and pinnacle macks with permits and hauled 95k and more. I prefer mack mainly because its a proven platform and I can fix it in a pinch to keep moving. I'll even settle for a Freightliner Cascadia. Plus the Tesla truck wont work for my company we have shuttles that go 625 miles and within an hour the truck is running another 350-500 miles depending on the route and delivery times it need to meet some of them have a down time of 4 hours if that

[@williambasinger5859]

Mack trucks are known for there day cabs most local haul trucks. You will find very few with sleepers for over the road use. So I don’t think Mack is the best comparison, although at this time it looks like the Tesla doesn’t have a sleeper either

[@rahansk8200]

the two trucks do not cater to the same customers. Tesla is for large companies for hub-to-customer trips or vice versa. and the others for the independents who travel long distances.

[@phillane4125]

You mention the entire weigth when towing, but what is the maximum load weight ? i.e. how much does the truck by it's self weigh ?

[@ohyaldi]

I won't waste my time picking this apart its evident a trucker wasn't involved with this here is something that was overlooked, try backing into a dock from the position of the driver seat lmao

[@theredwedge9446]

Unless we do diesel/gas electric hybrids, I dont think electric vehicles will ever be used for compercial use.

[@contractorvegas5384]

0 to 60 in five seconds and 5% left on battery So either to haul load or batteries

[@garrylogan5995]

Will this Tesla truck hold up to severe duty like a Mack truck? Mack trucks build a many roads and buildings to claim it's feat in the class 8 market for commercial vehicles. Seems like Mr. Musk has a lot of work to do equaling or surpassing the Mack truck for reliability for extreme use duty. Standard diesel trucks old and new can be modified, designed to handle special hauling requirements.

[@horsetarget123]

Yeah, but what about the cup holders

[@codyparsons6800]

If you knew anything about pulling loads it’s torque that a truck needs. Also the Tesla truck takes up most of that gross weight it’s an extremely heavy truck. So therefore your net load is a lot lower.

[@causticdeagle]

with all the posts I've seen of the tesla semi breaking down, I'll stick with an old pre-emissions truck any day of the week

[@agw5425]

If you can get a Tesla semi and don´t you should be fired for incompetence. The ONLY reason to get a diesel truck is if you must have a truck now and the waiting list is to long for your business. I would recommend to rent or buy a used one of good condition. To buy a diesel new so you would have to run it till it dies would not make sense any more. When (not if) electric semi trucks are up to full production no serious trucking company will still buy a diesel at just about any price (used or new) so your assets will be stranded and the much higher fuel cost will likely drive you, out of business that is. All that is on top of the coming carbon taxes that will be charged soon. Ps. Elon please get rid of twitter and focus on what you are good at.

[@akuapiatas]

the Mack is beautiful

[@keylor512]

I just feel like the Tesla semi should be used for Local trips and Diesel Engines semi's should be used for long trips. I don't think the Tesla Semi charges that quick. Plus we dont have enough charging stations

[@TERB2011]

All the Tesla needs is a 76 inch sleeper and a nice bed and they got me

[@L1berty1776]

The last thing a truck driver thinks about in his truck is how quickly it accelerates so the load in the back falls everywhere.

[@TheTruckerKidd]

RIGHT especially tankers

[@ryannguyen7466]

Trucker can now bully those "fast car" aka those Mustang kids who think it cool try to break check a giant Truck for insurance fraud.

[@L1berty1776]

@@ryannguyen7466 i simply slow down cause i know that they wont ever slow down that much. I dont care for assholes that cut me off and speed off but if u brake i will ram u and show the cops the camera that u stopped

[@EVMANVSGAS]

You care about driving up a hill though right? You need the power to climb a hill and actually not slow down.

[@davidkosiba624]

Really depends what you carry , and it should be the companies responsibility to stabilise the load not the truck making companies lol

[@cecasander]

Mack truck specs are based off decades of truck building Testa truck specs are based off Elon Musk saying "Trust me bro"

[@Mannymac25]

Trust me bro is the biggest Auto maker in US over all hundred year old others not including the guy also has a 🚀 company out doing NASA wasteful rockets

[@kinocorner976]

@@Mannymac25 Truth me bro has never built a truck that can go millions of miles and go where alot of shit can’t.

[@titan2984]

That's same for every new truck launched in the market. What's your point?

[@rickyjohnson534]

Just curious why you chose MACK as the main competitor for the Tesla semi. Next time you drive on the highway count how many Mack Anthems you see pulling a trailer and let us know.

[@knightwing4]

That’s an easy one to answer. He picked the truck that he thought was the easiest to beat. You are right so you must be a driver. You don’t see many Mack’s on the road. They are known for being tough but that’s all. That’s why they’re dump trucks and things like that. Think about it. Right in the beginning he said they’re to most powerful trucks out here. Wrong answer.

[@myusualchannel]

New Cascadia with a day cab would be a better comparison. Or the eCascadia for a 1:1 comparison.

[@allangibson8494]

The Volvo VNR would be a better comparison. That Volvo’s class 8 electric prime mover that has been on the market for 12 Months.

[@rogergeyer9851]

Ricky: Tesla blows away both the diesel semi and the competing BEV semis, re the specs. So either way, it's clearly advantage Tesla. Now Tesla needs to show it can seriously ramp up production. Luckily, the power train is based on the same motors used in its cars.

[@allangibson8494]

@@rogergeyer9851 Unfortunately Tesla’s power train is based on that used in cars - cars need way less torque or power to reach ridiculous speeds. A car at 60mph needs 40HP continuously. Anything more is just a hand waving exercise because you simply can’t apply it long term without exceeding speed limits. Truck (and aircraft and marine) engines have a higher continuous power requirement requiring different gearbox and bearing designs for reliability due to lubricants being squeezed out of loaded bearing surfaces.

[@DPWian]

Looks like the Tesla semi is more of a day cab kinda truck not for OTR

[@trentallman984]

Daycabs are a huge percentage of all the trucks on the road.

[@Foxis1080]

If most truck parking spots and warehouses have charging it should be fine for OTR, the Tesla trailer should have solar panels on the top to slow down how much it drains even if it’s only 5%

[@hoteduardog]

With the savings you can afford a motel

[@Yomommahouse]

@@trentallman984how’d you figure that? I rarely see day cabs. A lot more sleepers

[@trentallman984]

@@Yomommahouse I have been local and OTR. I am sure somebody has an official percentage if you want to find it.

[@subwarpspeed]

Tesla has said it should be a loss in usable cargo weight. So it's not 2000 lbs better. Regulations allow trucks with new power sources (I assume a fuel cell counts here to) to be 2000 lbs. The Tesla semi is surely utilizing that granted extra to be comparable. It's not hauling more pepsi bottles.

[@rogergeyer9851]

aubwarpspeed: In reality, it's about the same re cargo. So the advantages to the Tesla are huge, real world, and the supposed cargo advantage of the diesel is small to none. Real world, truck owners will LOVE saving MASSIVE amounts a year on charging vs. diesel. plus the longer life and lower overall maintenance on the Tesla BEV truck.

[@jerrybesch8532]

@Roger Geyer supposedly lower overall maintenance. I'd take a late 90s semi with a cat 3406B, a Cummins N14 , or a Detroit 60 series engine over today's regulated garbage. Reliability is big in the industry

[@mechsgtpuma938]

The one figure they don't tell us is the cargo capacity. When they show a tesla semi carrying cargo in tests its appears to be concrete barriers with loads of 6=8 tons. Based on diesel trucks carrying 16-23 tons as standard. Until they can reduce the weight of the battery pack electric truck are going to struggle against diesel trucks for capacity. In Germany they are trialing trucks with smaller batteries with a 30-50mile range but on major road they use a pentagraph system to use electricity from overhead cables. I wonder if this could be a better option to increase cargo capacity foe electric trucks.

[@buddhafyre]

It doesn't haul 2000 lbs more than the Mack.... There's simply a greater weight allowance for 'green energy' vehicles given the additional equipment needed for them to operate....

[@konrad3]

How heavy is the Tesla Battery? The Electric Truck could have less freight capacity

[@fasteddie8225]

I think the idea is cool but my only question is range and charge time. I haul a train set of fuel tankers and a full tank of fuel runs me 1-1/2 days and takes me 15 minutes to fill it from E my GVWR full is 120,000 LB’s you would need a fleet of these to replace one of our kenworths not to mention the time wasted on swapping rigs to the trailer set. Also the 18 speeds really help on steep grades not to mention on downhills with the Jake on

[@rogergeyer9851]

Fast Eddie: GIven that the Tesla semi can charge 70% (350 miles) in about 30 minutes (time for a bathroom break and a sandwich), it's not like refueling is going to be a big time problem for the Tesla. And the Tesla is MASSIVELY better than diesel on any downhills, while it's recharging the battery (more range and safety) by regenerative braking. You mostly have NO IDEA what you're talking about re comparing the vehicles, frankly. How is 18 speeds to get to 60 in a minute or more IN ANY WAY superior to just driving up the hill and getting to 60 in 20 minutes again? Get serious.

[@1964suicide]

@@rogergeyer9851 where are you going to find a supercharger that accommodates a 75' rig?

[@floofsale]

@@rogergeyer9851 no where at the moment.. no highway stops have them. Its gonna take 15 years before that infrastructure is anywhere near decent

[@rxzesereniti9750]

@@rogergeyer9851 30 minutes is a long time just for 70% that’s double the time for 70% distance allowed. Now multiply that by a fleet of trucks waiting to get charged, plus needing there won power plant to get power.

[@bodhisfattva7462]

@@rxzesereniti9750 you have to stop for that long anyhow if you are going 8 hrs and following the law. This is a direct quote from the "Interstate Truck Drivers Guide To Hours Of Service" The hours-of-service regulations require that if more than 8 consecutive hours have passed since the last off-duty (or sleeper-berth) period of at least half an hour, a driver must take an off-duty break of at least 30 minutes before driving obviously you do not haul freight for longer than 8 hours a day or you are in violation. So you have plenty of time to get 350 more miles of range while you sit still for 30 mins. So that gives you ~850 miles of operation in a day maximum. The 14 hour windows that you must comply with or be in violation of the law dont really let you go much farther than 850 miles before you must take 10 consecutive hours off. What will limit your range is the availability of appropriate charging stations and the overall grade of the terrain you are traversing. Longer if overall a down grade shorter if an up grade.

[@guersonurbina7735]

Diesel semis are going to be the best always

[@sharonbraselton4302]

wrobg

[@damienboss20]

agreed

[@bxndxlx4150]

@@sharonbraselton4302 Yeah, your opinion is wrong

[@bodhisfattva7462]

the best for noise and air pollution sure...once solid state batteries leave the lab and enter vehicles you will be able to drive thousands of miles in electric vehicles between charges...you are either ignorant or stupid which is it?

[@billcarver6539]

I will never trade in my diesel trucks for something that looks like shit. If it gets to the point diesel is no more, that will be the day I retire.

[@CristianLopez-xi4rt]

You can't compare Electric Motors to Combustion engines. Combustion engines have a power band where you have to keep hitting by changing gears to be able to produce enough torque to move. Electric Motors can use all the torque all the time as long as it is draining electricity from its batteries. This is why freight trains all use electric motors instead of diesel motors. They only have diesel generators to create electricity for its electric motors.

[@stephenrodgers5672]

They should develop a smaller version of the diesel/ electric for trucks.

[@r.t.1942]

Bingo that's right so no long heavy hauls for electric truck only short trip , diesel rains king for cross-country hauls

[@TuneyDarko]

@@r.t.1942 Depends, electric has only been out for a few decades compared to diesel trucks that have been around for much longer, don’t doubt that hydrogen or electric will takeover

[@dinosshed]

Diesel locomotives use this electric set-up purely because it's economical and by far the simplest method of transferring the power to the wheels.

[@limafrancisco8225]

Prefer Tesla ！

[@derek04151]

I had a 2020 Mack Anthem and it was the the biggest piece of junk I've driven in 35 years of trucking. Everything breaks from normal non-severe highway service. It literally falls apart on you while you're driving. Several major breakdowns in the first year. Anything is better.

[@Rodrihx]

Because it's Daimler.

[@conmanumber1]

@@Rodrihx No its Vulva.

[@DarkHawkk]

Are you planning to get a Tesla Semi?

[@nickreyes4570]

Not really. Our company leases new peterbuilts that hardly lasts two weeks before a major breakdown.

[@AirborneRenegade]

You had a faulty unit. The Anthems I’ve been around and in are some of the strongest trucks on the road. Plenty of power and very reliable if maintained properly.

[@shannonzittlow8462]

Too heavy even with the extra 2k allowance Its losing over 3ton payload per trip and can’t be team driven due to re charge time In trucking its all about net weights delivered

[@firstbigbarney]

Not when hauling popcorn and potato chips...

[@jessiejanson1528]

with full fuel, the tesla only weighs 1000 pounds more and can carry the same payload.

[@SoulFlavor18]

Tesla Semi is a Daycab. Too many people make videos and comments comparing Tesla Semi to a Long Distance Sleeper Cab. Clearly have never had their CDL or driven a truck Almost ALL days cabs (90%) run 500 miles or less daily close to a terminal. Sleeper cabs run 600-700 miles per day far from their Home Base This is not a sleeper truck, it is for linehaul & local deliveries. Which is what DayCabs are (No Bed in The Back)

[@tompower5666]

Absolutely right on

[@SLee-vj4px]

sleeper actually is not a big deal from manufacturing point of view, the charging infrastructure will take some time. can you imagine one day in future at a truck stop, quiet and each semi in "camp" mode? I am for one, can't sleep well with engine is on, that was the main reason I quit trucking in the 90s.

[@jovanleon7]

Tesla Semi has 500 miles of range and 300 miles can be regained in 20 minutes of charge. Daycab, sleeper, whatever

[@sharonbraselton4302]

weíbgé

[@ryannguyen7466]

I think the biggest wow factor is how regen break will impact trucking moving foward. Once you drive with regen break, you will start to feel how "everything should be this way" because it's intutive and safe.

[@balthazarbratt8194]

bro I drive trucks. I'm so stoked about this feature. for those who don't drive semis, this alone is revolutionary

[@Anthony-qq2ue]

All diesel pickups and semis have engine braking. My f350 goes downhill down big 6% grades hauling 15k lbs without gaining any speed. But Regen braking, even though it doesn't really change the way a diesel truck goes downhill, giving the energy back to you is awesome.

[@dr_birb]

@@balthazarbratt8194 is it as revolutionary as carrying at max half, at min quarter of the cargo weight?

[@balthazarbratt8194]

@@dr_birb The truck has a video of it carrying 82,000 lbs 500 miles. unless they lied and cheated on the video, you're wrong

[@dr_birb]

@@balthazarbratt8194 it doesnt carry 82k lbs, it weights 82k lbs total (cargo+semi). Which is max gross weight for a semi. Which every semi hits given the cargo allows it. Question is, what is the tesla semi curb weight, aka without cargo weight. Aka what's the max cargo weight.

[@thatguydy5089]

These won’t work if they cannot go at minimum 700 miles a day on one charge as an OTR truck. Maybe ok for local stuff

[@TschingisTube]

700 Miles/60mph = 11.6h of driving. How long is a driver allowed to drive in US? In EU it is limited to 9h and controlled regulary.

[@niklas7468]

@@TschingisTube american trucks can go 75mph and american truckers can drive 11 hours in a day

[@1KentKent]

I'm not a trucker but aren't most trucks used for local delivery, which is millions of trucks in the US? That's a whole lot of trucks that can recharge overnight when electricity is the cheapest. Once we build out these local delivery trucks in 10 years, we will have built out the long haul recharge network, built EV trucks with sleepers and improved the longer range batteries?

[@rogergeyer9851]

ThatGuyDy: So much nonsense from the FUD patrol. First , 500 miles is FAR from local. Second, given the 70% charge the Tesla can do in 30 minutes, that means an 850 mile total range with one small break while going to the bathroom and grabbing a sandwich. If you can't argue better than that, just give up. Seriously.

[@sharonbraselton4302]

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[@tettazwo9865]

If you accelerate 0 - 50 with the pedal to the floor often enough, then you'll go through tires in no time!