Which LEM is BEST LEM?

Going over which LEM model is preferable and the criteria for selecting one kinda.........lezbehonest, I was running out of memory on my camera so this one is a little quicker than I'd like but I still think it's quality info. Enjoy.

[@AUGUSTUSHEYLIGER-bq7zz]

I have a hk 46 C Tact with lite LEM…love…love…love it…you were spot on!!

[@navyman8903]

It's a great little gun, glad you love it!

[@kentwilliams3326]

Having carried a double action revolver professionally for 25+ years the H-K 45 LEM really sounds# like a good choice.

[@amoskowitz1989]

This video was very helpful for me. You helped me make the decision not to go to the LEM, based on my needs. Thank you.

[@navyman8903]

Glad I could help. Let me know how you like it if you don't mind.

[@jeffwinterroth7569]

Great Video. Exactly what i was looking for in a comparison. Have spent an hour looking for something this concise and on point. Gave me what i needed to make a decisions. And I subscribed.

[@navyman8903]

Thanks, glad I could help.

[@elliottbutts153]

I agree with you, on everything. I had installed Light LEM on my USP45 CT and it was amazing how short the reset is. LEM P30 is not as good but still not bad. Still debating on installing LEM on one of my full size pistols

[@bigB6flyer]

I have p30, p30sk, usp45c all in light lem. I’ve never been able to tell much difference. Only dasa hk I have is the usp45t. It’s good to hear your hk45 experiences bc not many own that gun.

[@navyman8903]

The HK45 is a very underrated gun and it's really awesome at what it does. Now that the 13 rounders are being made it should shine a bit more, but it's also possible it's time in the light has passed. Still a very awesome gun though. The SEALS still rock the MK24 too, so it's out there doing work, but not a lot of consumers have them for sure.

[@kennethwalton5582]

I finally, broke down and had a trigger job done to my P30L V3 and I now love it. The double action is much lighter and the slack has also been taken up in the reset as well. The DA/SA is so improved, my daughters even like it and it’s now my oldest daughters favorite out of my 6 pistols.

[@laurencea9932]

Hi DD. Just wanted to say that I enjoy your videos. I especially liked your review of the P30LS. Also, because of your review of the HK45, I went and tested it on my 45th bday. (Been thinking about that for a while - shoot a 45 on my 45th.) The gun was incredibly smooth. It was my first time shooting that caliber pistol. There was hardly any kick! It had the V1 trigger (DA/SA).

[@ineeddamoney]

I got the HK 45 b/c I couldn’t find the P30. I glad you said that. I’m going straight to USP LEM next.

[@tmaddrummer]

Clear as mud..... only because I need to get some touchy feely time to help decide. If you had to decide between the full size or compact, which does not appear to be so "compact," which HK45 would you prefer and why. Thanks and Blessings. HOOYAH!

[@kyler71]

Greyguns has a short reset trigger part that will work on the P30L with LEM. It will make the P30L trigger as good and probably better than the LEM on your HK45.

[@navyman8903]

I have one in my P30LS V3

[@rjo8500]

Good advice. I’m a DA/SA guy from back in the stone age so I like the V3 P30’s. I have a P30S and P30L. Shoot them both very well, no problem. Working on a USP Tac 9.

[@navyman8903]

The DA/SA just works for me, I can run SAO or Striker guns no problem, but I'm always coming back to DA/SA or LEM. Thanks for watching I appreciate it.

[@rjo8500]

NAVYMAN8903 Hey thank you. Nice to have HK media to spawn some motivation. Btw, Tac 9 didn’t happen, unfortunately. Stocking dealer couldn’t get it. New guns have been slow. However they managed to get an Expert in 9mm. It’s a non JF but I snatched it up anyway. Very next day at another frequent stop I just missed a nice .45 UMP build, Omega lower, w/stock for only $1,200. Missed it by less than hour. Would of been a good candidate to suppress. This HK game is unforgiving! Not many guns > too many buyers.

[@techti8792]

​@@navyman8903 on the da/sas do they all come with decocker?

[@navyman8903]

@techti8792 yes they do.

[@techti8792]

@@navyman8903 coming from glock you recommend v2 or v3? For ccw amd defense

[@user-sb4xv6ob9s]

I get the advantages of precocking the hammer, the LEM system provides a much lighter take up to the "wall" and a light crisp break at atbout 4 lbs. That would be a significant advantage for competition and at the range. But doesn't this just put us back into the only safety measures of a striker firesd weapon, just keep your finger away from the trigger until ready to fire! What seems to be getting lost is the safety advantages of a longer and heavier takeup for the first trigger pull to provide protection against accidental discharge in a defensive carry situation. That protection doesn't appear to be present with the LEM system.

[@navyman8903]

Thumb over hammer, and finger off the trigger. It's much safer than a striker.

[@andrewd4406]

Dude you rock , I cannot seem to find a P30L in a LEM configuration. I have the P2000 in LEM heavy and think LEM by far is a superior platform. How did you find yours (P30L) LEM ? Do you have any suggestions on where to find one ? Looking for LEM only

[@fvbpacguy]

I don't understand the P30 lem complaints. I got 2 P30s with LEM triggers it took a while but I can do a decent job with the LEM. ( I shot a lot of glocks before picking up a p30). Personally I think the P30 is one of the best and underrated 9mm pistols out there

[@votekyle3000]

I picked up a p30 v3 a few months back. They’ve gotten a lot cheaper on the used market, paid like $500. It’s a great gun.

[@navyman8903]

The P30 is all around a great shooting weapon with a track record of reliability. IT's honestly a very underrated gun and if it had a better trigger everyone would own one. I find I like the P30L's the best, but they are all good for what they do. I really do like them overall and they're great carry/duty/home defense guns. They're especially good for the duty/ccw role because they're light, slim, and flat shooting. You can also get really good with them with some dedication and practice.

[@fvbpacguy]

@@navyman8903 yep I agree I alternate this with my glock 19 for ccw

[@jimmock8975]

Awesome Video, i was going to get a P-30,but the HK45 is what i am going with, thanks James

[@tonysoprano7777]

Thanks for all the Info....anthoner great vid man

[@m0314700308891515]

USP full size match hybrid LEM >> USPc medium LEM >> P30L v4.1 LEM in that order 👍

[@chaff5]

Why is the LEM in the P series different from the LEM in the HK45?

[@douglasmcnay644]

The HK 45 is built off of the USP design with the safety/decocker on the side. The P series started doing the decocker on the back.

[@SwornHeresy]

The HK45 uses the same trigger as the USP. It's basically a USP with a P30 styled frame.

[@shaunnh2a585]

Grabbing my first HK postol next month. Decisions decisions 🤔

[@navyman8903]

Depends on what you're looking for and what role you want to put it in, if you're looking to just get one it's a harder choice honestly.

[@marting295]

Hk45v1 version is the way to go da/sa

[@billjohnsonseattle]

If you have the P30 V1 LEM check out the Grayguns Short Reset Drop in Trigger kit... It has great reviews and will turn your P30 into an even better gun.

[@mikexlr8]

JustMe I just ordered a p30L V1 (Light LEM) for that sane purpose - eventually installing them short reset kit by Gray Guns. I have a p229 Legion with the Gray Guns trigger and it’s shirt reset is amazing. This will be my first HK firearm.

[@cahillm2]

Is the video title a reference to RegularCarReviews?

[@navyman8903]

Not directly, he and I share a funny bone though. He's much more creative with his dark humor than I am. I do love his channel and recommend anyone into cars checks it out. Great guy, and a great channel.

[@doesitcomein9mm117]

Great firearm - I picked up the P30sk and long slide, and will pick up the midsize once I’m able to find one. Be safe.

[@Themichaelwesten]

P2000 LEM > P30 LEM any day… USP LEM is still superior as far as reset. But in all honesty P2KSK V4 with GrayGuns SRK is the pinnacle for a carry gun imo

[@E.Chang.]

In your experience, how does 4.1 CDA LEM compare against all the other types? Just picked up a P2000 v3 w intention to try LEM trigger. Now overwhelmed by all these variations. If it helps, I like a quick, short, crisp, and pronounced reset.

[@thetacticaljanitor2650]

What parts do I need to convert my USP compact LEM to a light LEM?

[@Brianbo4]

Gray guns short reset kit and get the 4.1 LEM (reduced take up) will make a p series feel more like a hk 45c lite LEM

[@DougthePugsDad]

P30L V1 with LEM and Gray Guns Short reset...... BEST EVER.. IMO. 👉🏽

[@VersperasSDS]

I've got the p30l v1 and I love it. Haven't tried the hk45 with it though. Looks sweet though.

[@allthingskev349]

I have the P30L love it.

[@timewing4611]

Have you tried the gray guns short reset in an hk45 LEM? My next gun is going to be an hk45 tactical LEM, and thinking of adding the short reset

[@jasonminderhoud9601]

What is the "light" LEM? Is that the V1 or another variant?

[@Sir-Hash-A-Lot]

V7

[@davidbonnichsen2901]

V1 on the p30 model

[@SpicyRok7482]

V0 on a P2000 for the CDA ( LEM )/DA trigger...4.5lbs. pull on a "cocked" trigger...11.5lbs. on an "uncocked" trigger.

[@stevenwright6573]

Commander Dick Marcinko would approve this message.

[@thehashslaingingslasher]

There's a hk45c with the LEM A at a local shop and I think you may have sold me on it.....

[@maximusjoseppi5904]

The HK45 has the best lem stock, the p30 stock lem is terrible. I did the greyguns upgrade to the p30 so now it's better than the HK45. Problem with the lem trigger is it's just dreaming of being a striker trigger but can never achieve it. If you like hammer triggers, they are wonderful though but it's strictly a range gun for me.

[@rhodycars6058]

I’m going back and forth between v1 or v7 on a USP 45 and uspc 9mm. Looking to buy both and want them in the same trigger configuration

[@atlkj55]

Is there a Light Variant LEM Model sold? Or do I need to order an HK 45 V1 and the use the lem trigger kit to set up?

[@navyman8903]

There are V7s available but they are rare finds. You may be able to order one through a distributor.

[@thomascozart1095]

Do you prefer the light LEM to the HK DA/SA on hammer-fired HKS? Especially the P30 series.

[@Gieszkanne]

The P models have 3 LEM versions V1,V2 and V4! So which one you are talkin about?

[@navyman8903]

V1

[@Sprice93USAF]

Todd Green Special is my favorite LEM setup

[@E.Chang.]

What's the Todd Green Special? Just picked up my first HK (P2000) because I've heard so much about the LEM system. But now I'm so lost cause there's so many diff variations

[@Sprice93USAF]

@@E.Chang. Light firing pin block spring, heavy trigger return spring, stock hammer spring. Search "hk lem spring chart" to find all the spring combinations and model numbers for your firearm. The heavy return spring in the Todd Green assists in resetting the trigger faster for rapid follow up shots.

[@E.Chang.]

@@Sprice93USAF awesome thanks, I’ll look into it! Might be what I’m looking for. I like a short fast and pronounced reset, trigger weight isn’t too much of a concern

[@Sprice93USAF]

@@E.Chang. Me too buddy :)

[@mikecrawford2936]

I have a weak hand and trigger finger due to a spinal cord injury. I have always shot a .357 Colt Python after I caulked the hammer. For self defense and safety it seems like based on what you are saying the P30L would be safer because of the longer trigger reset? Stated other way, after the initial shot it would take more travel of the trigger for the second shot? Any idea how many pounds for the initial trigger pull and then the second pull after reset? Thanks!

[@audacityofthemind8348]

That’s it I’m sold!

[@clark8250]

I know this is an older video, but I’m looking at a P30L with the LEM trigger. I have heard you can send upgrade your LEM trigger from Lonely Wolf in order to significantly shorten your reset. Have you tried this, and if so, how did it work out for you? Thanks

[@jonnyparsons7171]

I have the p2000 v2 LEM. I wonder if the LEM in mine can be upgraded to the USP version?

[@J1Z06]

I had a USP .45 with an LEM. I couldn't stand it. The takeup was horrific while the reset wasn't all that. I consistently left The HK on the bench and shot My Glock instead. I bought a brand new USP and like it much better.

[@elinpelin17]

You keep referring to HK45 as the USP version. Isn't the HK45 that you are showing on the video and not the USP version? I'm new to all that and trying to pick on all details before buying.

[@LoneStarLawman]

What do you think of the V2 LEM in a P2000 9mm?

[@johnm8787]

I’m currently looking to add a P30SK or VP9SK to my collection. Most of my guns are striker fire, except for my HK USP compact and my Sig P229 enhanced elite. Do you recommend I get the LEM trigger or a standard DA/SA trigger and do the Gray guns trigger kit? Or just go with the Vp9sk?

[@mikejaan66]

What comes from the factory LEM or light LEM? Is light LEM an after market part? Thanks!

[@blackshineism]

Hey bud quick question, is the VP9 available in LEM?

[@navyman8903]

No sir. It's only available as a striker fired.

[@kravstema6287]

Have you tried the defensive action upgrade for LEM pistols, 4.1. It’s for the P-series, it’s said to reduce the take up by 5mm, or about 1/3. It’s on HKParts.net right now

[@fearnonebutone4977]

I have that on one of mine. It’s better, but not a huge difference. Now if you also install the GrayGuns short reset in addition to the 4.1, THAT is a nice setup.

[@jonnyparsons7171]

What exactly is it about the P series LEM that you think is less superior to the others? I never have heard anyone say this and I just got the P2000 with the LEM.

[@Mikigane]

My friends have all fired H&K handguns and say that the HK45 is the go to and that I shouldn't bother with the VP9 or P30. Honestly, I like my Glocks. However, I want to branch out from my comfort zone and get a hammer fired 9mm. I've been considering a Langdon Tactical Elite LTT, but I was also looking at the USP 9mm. I enjoy your videos quite a lot and find them to be very informative. I was really hoping you could set me straight on whether I should get the USP9 or the P30L, as both interest me. The HK45 also interests me, but I want to get a Dan Wesson Valor in .45 before I snag an HK45C or full size HK45.

[@mikejaan66]

Awesome video

[@1940restorod]

You mention “LEM lite” is there a difference between LEM and LEM lite?

[@christianbenn316]

Awesome guns

[@Elvis68spec]

Very good Video!

[@thaddeusshell3494]

Just wondering I have a mk23 and hk45c with lem idk if its a light or regular lem should i get a p30 in lem or da/sa ?

[@anthonyreddy2834]

So I have a p30 sa/da with decocker, can I switch it over too light lem? And if so what parts would I need?

[@jimmysmith3255]

What variant is the hk 45 without safety

[@hanz2lk]

Just picked up an hk v1 p30L

[@navyman8903]

Nice! Let me know how you like it.

[@hanz2lk]

Always wanted an HK, shot a usp years ago. I hesitated a few ago on a V3 P30L. The store had a HK 45 tac and also passed on it, and it eas sold when I changed my mind. When i saw this was in stock from another store i went and grabbed ot.

[@hanz2lk]

Also watching your vids made me get one... Next one will be a HK45 tac

[@icyaquarius86]

My first HK was a HK45 V7 several years ago... that thing had the worst trigger pull even after I sent it back for the Light LEM conversion. Couldn't get rid of it fast enough and eventually ended up with a Cimarron Henry 1860. Fast forward to today, and shooting P-series LEM's in heavy and light (P2000SK V2 and own a P30SK V1), I love those particular. So much so I'd love to have a P30L with the Todd Green set-up. Far and away the best trigger for the P30 and I think excellent for duty use. Still like HK45's, just in SA/DA...

[@perrymiller1098]

What is a light LEM?

[@rickyricardo873]

Is that HK 45 the v7 variant?

[@navyman8903]

Yes.

[@rickyricardo873]

@@navyman8903 thank you sir

[@navyman8903]

@@rickyricardo873 Happy to help.

[@Cosaco-il1sq]

What is the lem V7 variation in the H&K 45 ??

[@garrettscroggin6750]

V7 is LEM without a manual safety or decocker. The more recent ones are shipping as Light LEM.

[@AjayKumar-kn6br]

what's range this gun sir

[@timwhitlock4178]

I only wish I could afford that many H&Ks

[@areaperii998]

Usp45 LEM >

[@AjayKumar-kn6br]

sir, wanna to make this gun plz help me sir

[@bquick80]

Ajay Kumar ?!?!?

[@emak4558]

Nope. P30 better than HK45 lem.

[@navyman8903]

It absolutely is not. You can prefer it sure. But it's measurably better.

[@southpaw1519]

LEM is trash in any configuration

[@Unknown-cq1km]

Forget this guy “stick to your platform” explore different platforms it may be better for you then the platform your currently on. This video sucked. Go out and test it out for yourself

[@navyman8903]

You missed the point.

[@thiccviener825]

Such a corny gun. What’s with all that shit I don’t need? Glock 17 will outlast this trash with farrrr more abuse

[@jrocktalks6308]

Your a dumb ass lol clearly don’t know shit.

[@thiccviener825]

Glock 17 wayyyyyy fuckin better