Which Nightmare Dungeon Tier Should You Run? Here's The Answer!

[@screech912]

Video starts with paint open... damn its gonna be good

[@Ichiban_Kasuga.]

Lol

[@JohnnyLifts69]

Came here to say exactly this lol you know we in for some MATH

[@guardpuzzle467]

Is the first thing I noticed too.

[@marcelbrosius841]

🤣🤣🤣

[@derp2126]

The events are godly in dungeons… from what I’ve seen just one cursed shrine or chest basically doubles the xp u get from a nmd

[@idn]

I agree.

[@DeanMurphyCDM]

I used to cringe when I found a cursed chest/shrine. Now I cheer.

[@hitlord]

Yeah, I've been having the same experience here. I still avoid the events with guys, defend this, follow the spirit, but shrines and chests I'm clicking them all. It's easily an extra level when you're below 90.

[@snackerrr]

@@DeanMurphyCDMdon’t worry when you’re 100 you’ll be back thinking the same

[@lexwaldez]

You can watch the exp bar increase rather quickly during a cursed chest or shrine event. I LOVE them, and they're a good reason to clear a dungeon instead of speed run.

[@Gaborsk1]

I took a shot at Diablo IV when it came to Game Pass as I was not willing to pay like $69 for a game that got mixed review in the beginning. Now season 4 is when I started a new Minion Necro . I'm now at level 75 as a casual player who plays like 2-3 hours every other day for about two weeks now. I'm now also in for the Nightmare Dungeons, because I had to first finish the campaign and wanted to hear the story. So that took most of the time in that 2 weeks. Must say I really enjoy Diablo IV at the moment even if I don't understand everything as I did in Diablo III. So thank you Raxx for this information, now I know exactly what level to grind 🙂

[@TavandtheTadpole]

This community is so lucky to have Raxx

[@oyoyo2853]

Also if you run NM 46+ you get 925 gear no matter what level you are. I did this for the gear from level 75 anyway but that's good to know I was already doing most efficient.

[@pwnmclovin1]

this is really good to know and i think everyone needs to see this.

[@apocoplum2223]

41+ for 925 ip gear. 46 is when you start getting the obol chest for completing the dungeon

[@Sknerus89]

@@pwnmclovin1 Everyone should read patch notes for season, not fish for random comments in yt d4 vid section.

[@PxNxWxGxW]

@@pwnmclovin1 patch notes exists. Anyone can read them.

[@pwnmclovin1]

@@Sknerus89 sure but letting people know isn't a bad thing

[@lexwaldez]

I'm just a casual player that logs on after the kids go to bed. This is SO helpful. I changed what I was running after seeing this. Now the dungeons are less of a grind and more fun getting those glyphs leveled. I hope I get to try out more endgame this season.

[@T1tusCr0w]

We really appreciate this kind of information Raxx. As someone who hasn’t got the time for all the finding out this kind of simple information takes to get. It helps a lot! 👊🏻

[@lackofinterest7605]

raxx, thank you for your videos. your content makes the community better as a whole, spending time to crunch numbers for regular folks like us to know what’s optimal is extremely helpful. i look forward to your videos every day

[@rpgfanatic5477]

This entire season, I was leveling so fast that I instead focused on Glyph EXP. Even blasting high tiers going for glphy exp, I barely got all glyphs to 21 just after reaching level 100.

[@David-hw9si]

yeah, I think the real purpose for NMD is powerleveling Glyphs to 15/21 anyway. Maximizing leveling speed doesn't seem to matter that much when Glyph is the limiting step, as far as NMD goes. If you end up needing to do extra NMDs after maxing out anyway instead of doing other activities that may provide better yield such as loot or Pit for MW materials.

[@rich1231]

@@David-hw9si Same here. The XP is just an added bonus but running as high NMD levels as I could survive was simply to get my glyph levels to 21 ASAP;)

[@rust4218]

Thank you and the maxroll crew for doing the work so I can just enjoy the game.

[@idn]

Events are nuts for exp. Anyone saying otherwise just doesn't know. Corrupted shrine on some maps spawns basically the same amount of mobs as the entire rest of the dungeon.

[@youdonegoofed]

That feel when you see 20/5 waves killed lol

[@Rancid_Ninja]

You need to be able to kill all the mobs quickly so another group spawns, depending on build it can be insane or just okay if you don't do a ton of AOE damage. My frost orb build is absolutely nutty I can do 20+ waves although I'm 100 now so it doesn't matter anymore

[@Woelock]

My question is about the pit. Is it the same rule with greater rifts from D3 where you just do the highest you can clear in 5 minutes or less?

[@youdonegoofed]

In my opinion, yes. You want to maximize your materials gained per minute

[@samsquatch7285]

Agreed. I kept going till I hit a brick wall on the boss ( which was level 63 for me). Now I'm just doing level 60's and farming for better gear before I master work anything

[@ilovek4ffee415]

In D3 it's 2min or less and i kinda go with the same in D4 on my sorc its currently 31 to get the mats and on my barb 61 so i get the mats + max amount of legendaries/obols, i think lower then 2min is rarely possible and longer just gives less rewards overall but it depends in your class/build if you need the 60+ mats and can only do those in 5min then yeah go for it but otherwise lowest amount of time is better imo

[@cory2300]

Thanks for taking the time to do this - this is awesome info

[@devak45167]

It’s like you literally read my mind this is exactly the stage I’m at (as a returning casual player) and I’m kinda lost on NDs. Thanks for this, subbed for more 🤙🏻 P.S. as a casual player i can confirm we too are able to find the events lol. The game has a map it’s not hard 😂

[@adriansula8579]

Yes always click the healing wells too since they can be cursed too spawning a bunch of free exp :D

[@devak45167]

@@adriansula8579 oh good tip, thanks!

[@nzgrover]

The quest to open the Pit is to complete a Tier 46 ND. I've been doing helltides as you want that season rep anyway, and you get Whispers at the same time for extra xp. Then once I hit rep cap, I do ND for Glyph xp till lvl 15. I'll try keeping up the ND to finish lvling next time, extra Glyph lvls!

[@Focus716]

Got my first 100 Hardcore barb thanks to you mane! Keep up the content. Your videos are actually always helpful instead of a repeat of someone else’s build like half the vids out there 🤘🏻

[@nmiloslavich]

I’m new to diablo 4. Got a 100 necro, and wanted to try hardcore. Was slaying shit with a sorcerer up to 87, and lag killed me. Back to normal seasonal event I go

[@the-macjagger]

I looked for this everywhere thanks! Perfectly explained Emden better with data. Subscribed.

[@fredericaendekerk3830]

Everytime it’s a good advice and Clear video. Thx! Keep up the good work. I’m loving it!

[@andrewsingleton1612]

I like this video raxx. Im normally lvl 100 way before my glyphs are 21. Especially this season I had 7 glyphs to take to 21. That being said because of that I race to 100 NMD’s for the glyph exp. Just what I do. With so many obols I save them for torment to get ancestral armor right the go and put aspects on right away so at level 55 i can start fighting guys 20-30 levels ahead of me. This season changed alot of things alot of which I love. Somethings need to be changed but I dont know who to talk to cuz Ideas but no one to express them too

[@notnamedchris6932]

I saw another video of you talking about nightmare dungeons, didn't believe it until I tried it for myself. Holy crap. I flew from 90 to 100 in like an hour. Not even pushing high levels. Just cruising through them as fast as I could at like 45-48 tier. The events are insanely powerful for xp especially if you can wipe them all as they spawn. You can clear like 20 waves before the timer runs out.

[@datriadx18]

Excellent. The only problem i have with running low NMDs is the abysmal glyph xp they give.

[@quitwastinmytime]

I think a paradigm shift is in order here. It's much quicker to level a character than to level glyphs now. Would glyph leveling follow a similar formula?

[@InfamousChloe]

The one thing I don't see enough creators talking about is what to farm and when. Is pit most efficient for endgame gear? Is duriel better than andariel? Are nightmares useless now after glyphs are done? ETC

[@willrobinson4859]

I appreciate the work and the testing. Once you hit 100 and the focus is on glyph leveling is there an optimal number you should shoot for above 100?

[@mathew00]

The only thing I don't like is the sigil crafting system. Wish I could be more specific with the tier. I'm ok with the random dungeons.

[@droid5785]

Yeah let me choose the exact tier, make the UI not terrible. Then allow me to 'prefer' a single positive affix, and 'dislike' a single negative one. I'm getting the idea from Rocket League matchmaking, they let you choose a loose association of arenas to like/dislike

[@devintittle8096]

@@droid5785you’re playing the wrong game

[@SsHg-qi3fd]

​@@droid5785How much hand holding do people want in these game systems? Just take the damn RNG 😂

[@martins8699]

does this also apply to leveling up paragon glyphs as well, or would it be better pushing as high as possible for glyph leveling purposes?

[@CR3AMPI3]

I was talking about this with my friends! Trying to figure out what was best, I was doing +3-15 levels so this video is great, only wish I had it a few days ago, I'm happy to have it now though!

[@PortaPunch]

What about glyph XP? Is there a cap to the glyph XP or bonus for certain levels?

[@pscharstein]

Nice, what about optimizing glyph xp? Same rules or...?

[@DavidCCorra]

Good to know. Just it would be perfect if you write in description of row values into column A.

[@zankheal]

Oh man, I love your D4 teaching videos.

[@chipbarnhart9241]

We took a new character to WT4, at level 5 he joined me on a tier 65 nmd and by the end of the dungeon he was level 53. It was insane hearing the level up chime as fast as it did

[@Smokeyxz]

How was he level 5 after having someone carry him through 2 capstone dungeons?

[@TokenTombstone]

@@Smokeyxz something is fishy here

[@socalkol]

@@Smokeyxz Either the story is BS, or the person only added them to the group/brought them into the dungeon when the person carrying was already at the boss.

[@Throa98]

@@Smokeyxz Rush ignoring most of the mobs

[@taunttitan1714]

Raxx my man you've been helping me anytime I'm like wait what's the best way to do this while also having a good time I'd search up a video of yours then go like "why am I not surprised my man raxx already read my mind"

[@Platinkobold]

Yo Raxx, what about glyph xp? Would it be sufficient to level your glyphs just by leveling up your char from 50 to 100?

[@timcoots]

That is why you rule. I'm a casual and I can't blast or perform as good as most. And I coincidentally was struggling with this issue. Thank you @rax for your content!

[@th3f4tbo1]

For the dungeon events: does xp change whether or not you complete the mastery objective? I usually do complete it but sometimes not 😂

[@KimJongPhil]

In regards to events, im now like 2 weeks into the game and i STILL have an event every dungeon. The few that i "didnt" i wasnt hitting any healing pools. Those can be cursed. Id imagine, if u dont find ur event its cuz its in ur healing pool by the boss or something. My build heals alot so i can never use those without alot of effort.

[@xdrkcldx]

Casuals can’t find the events? The events casually find me!

[@scottcunni]

Raxx you are the man, thank you again for quality info, I didnt know the whole -44 level stuff, always wondered what level monsters would be in the dungeons.

[@SimonStaxPoker]

44 tip is godly. Cheers.

[@bobbob679]

Why do NMD have a separate level number to them? Why do NMD lvl 46 have lvl 100 monsters? Why don't we just call it NMD lvl 100?

[@PxNxWxGxW]

Fr. Too much mental gymnastics just to run a fucking dungeon.

[@vadicus-tcp]

Yah lol. I think it's the tier plus 54 gives you the level. Like why? Couldn't agree with you more.

[@inhumANthropoid]

What about Pit Runs? Is it worth it to run for Neathiron if you can't finish it 100% of the time? Or is it better to guarantee a clear for Ingolith?

[@XshadowXkhanX]

Thanks a lot raxx for the tips & guides :) One noob question though, what about Glyph XP? what is the optimal NMD to level them up fast to 21?

[@Deadknight67]

I find NM dungeons to give more than enough EXP and only do NM dungeons with +20% Glyph xp because I find it to be the biggest grind to get your glyphs to 21.

[@MrFrmartin]

I usually shoot for 11 levels ahead, in case I level up mid dungeon

[@Da5kone001]

At lvl 70 or so I’ve been taking my characters into lvl 95 nms I want my drops to be 925 and honestly it slows me down an extra min per dungeon

[@Sknerus89]

@@Da5kone001 But monster of lvl 100, always drop 925 as of this season. Sorry, havent done NMD in a while now, ain't 95 NMD a monster lvl like idk, 145? lol You're overshotting ;)

[@Da5kone001]

@@Sknerus89 level 95 monsters always drop ilvl 925, im saying from about 70 on im always farming nmd with 95-105lvl monsters

[@Rancid_Ninja]

I was gonna say it must be monster level cause how you blasting a 95 nm with a character under a hundred lol

[@MrFrmartin]

@@Rancid_Ninja There are builds out there that can blast NMD 95s while being under level 100. My level 80 was blasting Tier 89s with no real problems. And now to think of it, it might be because its easier to hit armor cap, and there are some op tempers that dont have level restrictions. Yesterday I saw Raxx clear the first capstone dungeon with a lvl 1 sorc, which had some tempered gear. crazy stuff

[@widepeepohappy820]

Dosent the pit give u more once you have access ofc?

[@seannolan6738]

Does extra shrines affix increase the cursed shrine rate?

[@Gregair13]

Looking forward to trying this during the anniversary event

[@iamdarudedude]

Nice Work! Thanks for letting us now. Keep Blasting. ❤

[@GoofyGooberLEL23]

This video helped me a ton. Thank you!!

[@cgctorrag]

does this apply to your glyph xp in these dungeons?

[@SirDudeIV]

Are there any XP breaks like this for glyphs?

[@brandofriva]

Does this apply to glyph do too? From what I’ve seen glyphs gain more at higher levels

[@mystere1277]

I try to find the sweet spot for character XP, Glyph XP and at higher NMDs you also get the chest that gives orbols

[@daneclarkcollins]

Does anybody know: would there be similar math for leveling glyphs? That's my focus right now with NMD, and I've been doing 45+ levels above me. I could get through them faster at a lower level.

[@mvmniko]

Where is the google doc for the tierlist ?

[@menwmensson8453]

Your data would also support mlvl 40+ over player being xp capped. Could be a mechanism to prevent getting power leveled

[@r9beny437]

Rax I'm still waiting for u to answer me about Dust devil double swing build, on the planner in the skill tree there is concussion at 10rank but is not link,why?why I have to upgrade my gear for concussion when is not link?I don't understand something. You recommend this build so please explain. I'm new to D4 so maybe I don't understand

[@Shockem73]

Does this also apply to glyph XP?

[@IndijanaGrbic]

How does this effect glyph xp? Is it worth it to run higher dungen because we get more glyph xp?

[@Kounteron]

yeah I kinda prefer my method of pushing as high as I can or - as high as I can while still at a reasonable ~couple minute speed. That gives the most glyph xp which will be the bottleneck as far as i've noticed

[@Patrick-t9c]

Do 3 greater affixes drop on nm dungeon 46?

[@amoran2013]

Love the paint videos, maybe think about buying a drawing pad with a pecil or something, you might enjoy it

[@Rancid_Ninja]

Glyph xp still goes up for higher nm levels, and that's the main reason im doing them so less glyph xp per run means more runs over all. So if i can blast on a higher level i will only for more glyph xp at once

[@rangeispow]

Kinda funny this season I accidentally did option 2 on all my characters after level 50 or so as a side effect of wanting to get guaranteed 925 item power gear earlier on

[@Metallicahardrocker]

Which dungeon events we talkin about? Not the events in the extra rooms, right?

[@user-kr9mh5oi1q]

THANKS RAXX this is exactly what people need for next week...anniversary xp boost next week....GET THEM TO 100

[@jjames943]

Is there a way to stay on the same level nightmare dungeon? When I complete one it gives me a sigil for the next higher level. What if I want to stay on one particular level? For instance… I’ve cleared level 90 nightmare and want to farm 925 gear to min/max my gear. If I do a level 90 nightmare I get a level 91 sigil. I want to stay at lvl 90.

[@irvine774]

thanks i needed this video for my druid

[@steevk60]

I am a casual player. I just hit 100 on my Necro this week. I am having so much fun this season that I am playing everyday again. I do exactly what you mention in your videos. I can ALWAYS find the events and do them now that they are so concentrated with monsters. They generally have a timer of 1 minute for each event. This includes cursed chests, shrines and Health Pots. They can all be cursed and I have found as many as 3 cursed events in a NM. Thank you for all you do.

[@samsquatch7285]

I did basically this but my build ruled so i kept going higher and higher so i could level my glyphs at the same time ( which I feel is also an important part of the leveling process). I wasnt going any slower per se and once i holit 100, i just started doing the best glyph leveling dungeons and kept on trucking. I think i ended up at dungeon level 70ish by the time i got all my gluphs leveled to 21.

[@Svyatozor]

That helps, thank you.

[@thiagota]

What about the only important thing in NMD? Glyph XP? I only do them until I max all glyphs then on to the pit.

[@nitrologly]

If you can, shouldnt you do higher lvl 100 for better loot and glyph experience? Seems like glyph experience still scales higher even if monster experience doesnt...

[@youdonegoofed]

If your build can handle running higher tier NMDs at the same speed, you absolutely should run them. The rules discussed in this video apply to character leveling and XP.

[@pobopower]

And for HC?

[@LouieLovesMinis]

So if youre level 100 and just doing glyph runs, tier 46 would be best?

[@lil----lil]

What about loot? Do higher level dungeons "supposedly" drop better loot?? Doesn't that count for something? Thank U!

[@lorzkotzros]

Yes, minions lvl 95 drop 925 items

[@stressfulpeacegaming]

Sort of. As long as the monster level is 95 or above, it is guaranteed 925 gear. Beyond that, it is all RNG. So basically, using his strategy, you should be getting ALL 925 gear starting at level 85. If you use the Profane Mindcage potion in helltide, you can start getting 925 gear at level 82. Best of luck in the gear hunt!

[@iAmNex20]

Love the Diablolytics type Videos

[@Ichiban_Kasuga.]

Ive been going thru NMD 20+ lvls above me is that considered annihilating ? 😅

[@Derwood01]

Im a little surprised glyph xp isnt part of the conversation. Ive been spamming NM dungeons since i hit wt4 and am level 95 with 2 glyphs to max out still. Frankly, leveling xp isnt even a concern since glyph xp is the real bottleneck.

[@edwardbailey1743]

I do higher nmd’s for the higher amount of glyph xp

[@Chris-gn3bo]

Why do we have to minus 44 from our level? Seems like an unnecessary complication on blizzards side. If someone could explain it would be much appreciated 👍

[@Nokiya]

I was just looking at your barb speed run few hours ago and was wondering which NMD are the yuckiest so I can avoid them

[@qodly16]

My issues have been what's the optimal way to transition from leveling to endgame build around level 50. For context I was using the Barb double swing leveling build, and want to try the bash build. It is a slog when you don't have the unique aspect and try to rotate ND. Any thoughts? Should I stick with the leveling build until WT4?

[@youdonegoofed]

If your build sucks for running NMDs, I think leveling up with the Helltide boss (with other players for the XP bonus) is the way to go, and you get a good amount of loot along the way so you can get your aspects. Then transition to running NMDs.

[@geirjartveit9785]

Hi. Is Lvl 100 max pit in Nightmare dungeon.

[@rich1231]

Meanwhile, I ran NMD 70 on my lvl 80 Dust Bowl Twister Barb... To me I just wanted to upgrade my glyphs ASAP, so I ran the highest NMD I could survive with my build. The added XP was just a bonus. Had to use the Holy elixir though to survive it;) lmao

[@redders84]

What about glyph xp?

[@alberto2128]

My 2nd character was a barb. He absolutely destroyed the game I was playing +20 speed farm. Got quite soon at monster over 100 I think around lvl 80. My glyphs were at 21 by the 98 lvl

[@orborbea9844]

you are a goldmine of information , thanks :)

[@oopomopoo]

"Casuals dont find the events" My brother in Christ, casuals are the ones who full clear things.

[@Kaltsuwhite]

Great video! Thank you

[@jaydunne203]

At 100 i cant see.any point doing these ? I have more.than enough mats to.open many pits .

[@JessexAdam]

This is focused on experience and leveling but I think the sooner you can do mlvl 100 the sooner you can get guaranteed 925 gear. Feels like another wrinkle to the “if your build sucks” bucket.

[@cwynn1547]

The only reason I run NMD is glyph exp, and if I could get that some other way, I would. The most boring activity ever, and it has to be done every season because they don't change the glyph XP mechanic. And the only reason to do it is if you want to beat Lilith again, or one of the other bosses. I would love to see the mechanic changed, get rid of paragon boards altogether and make levels more beefy in what you gain on stats. The boards end up as make-work for something to do. If levels gave you the stats, along with gear, the boards would be unnecessary.

[@XerXcho]

But why does it change at level 91?

[@AnnThracks1]

Because experience is capped at 100 and there is no benefit to running 10+ levels higher.

[@TheEmperorBear]

Good Job, Thanks for the work, appreciate it

[@sols.2525]

I don't totally agree. You should run the highest you can that doesn't slow you down. I was running 80's - 90's keys because the glyph xp was outstanding. LVL 46 glyph xp sucks. I was using a s tier build though so I could clear it just as quick. This is the first season I have had all my glyphs that I use to 21 long before hitting 100, because I didn't follow this "rule."

[@kydelastra]

Whats the longest Berserk duration people have gotten?

[@yilei1051]

There is one thing not considered in this video: if I can fly through tier 80, why would I miss those glyph exp and run 46? If you play an underpowered build, sure that’s what you should do to max character exp. If you play meta build, you don’t have to follow this at all.

[@laboom60]

Bless you Raxx!