Which Platform Could Replace X/Twitter in 2024?

[@joshuahillerup4290]

Calling Bluesky "decentralized" at the moment seems inaccurate. They claim they want to become decentralized, but until they do so it is still very much centralized.

[@yuvalne]

also calling a platform run by a billionaire "billionaire proof" is a joke.

[@davidioanhedges]

@@yuvalne It can't be bought by a Billionaire ...

[@thebestben]

@@yuvalne I want to clear up a few misconceptions about Bluesky: Jack Dorsey does not hold a position at Bluesky, PBLLC. He has one vote on the Board of Directors. Also, the technology behind the app, the At Protocol cannot be controlled by a billionaire. It’s simply not built that way. Once Bluesky opens up to the public, they will allow non-Bluesky instances to be created and controlled by other individuals/businesses.

[@ahriboy]

Unless Bluesky server admins have the power to filter out content they don't like, as well as rejecting requests from other servers

[@joshuahillerup4290]

@@ahriboy there's only one Bluesky instance right now, which is Bluesky

[@davidioanhedges]

Mastodon is not and never has been a replacement for Twitter - it's different, very good at what it want's to be, and has no intention of being a Twitter replacement BlueSky is intended to be a Twitter replacement, but is letting people join by invite only so it grows slowly and they can block the spammers, bots, and trolls Threads is everything wrong with Twitter ... replicated

[@GreenBlueWalkthrough]

So Reddit the reattempt?

[@digojez]

​@@GreenBlueWalkthroughnah, reddit is just a mistake.

[@xWood4000]

​​​@@GreenBlueWalkthroughLemmy/kbin is the improved version of reddit, and is compatible with Mastodon. But it has it's own issues, before Twitter and Reddit scared people away one of the biggest servers on Mastodon was a neonazi server, and one of the biggest lemmy servers is a russian propaganda server that has normal communities on it

[@Musashi246]

The title having to write "X/Twitter" really says enough about Elon's marketing sense...

[@GraalsDeadMonster]

There is something wrong with the sound, a constant bussing noise

[@Blorp_]

Yeah, thought my speaker was broken. Really annoying

[@kindofanmol]

More like a hissing noise

[@thewonderfultartiflette4733]

No joke my ears were hurting just after 15 seconds. Probably due to his mic, maybe too much gain ?

[@fathertimegaming17]

You aren't riding the bus are you?

[@LeahLundqvist]

@@thewonderfultartiflette4733sounds like a faulty xlr cable

[@cyberrb25]

It's kinda funny that Bluesky wasn't supposed to be Twitter's competitor, but the platform Twitter was going to migrate to... The project was actually being on the background since 2019 (from what I've read), and the plan was to get the AT Protocol to become the place Twitter would be mounted over, in time.

[@thebestben]

Yep, Bluesky was gonna be the open-source tech that Twitter would’ve been migrated to, allowing other companies to join the network with their own services. But then Elon tweeted about buying Twitter and the rest is history.

[@Jasuta123]

I have bluesky account, i can say that it most likely best alternative . Specially allowing adult content .

[@ArtfulCosumDust]

​@@thebestbenHonestly isn't it great that Twitter died though? If Musk didn't buy it, Blues toxicity would be immediate. Now that's not the case.

[@Phil_AKA_ThundyUK]

Hopefully nothing. The world doesn't need another social media cesspool like the ones we already have.

[@dennisp8520]

Actually this X is good enough I don’t want another social account to deal with

[@Phil_AKA_ThundyUK]

@@dennisp8520 Yeh I approve of the way Elon is handling X really. I think it's missing the point when reports etc look at the loss in advertising revenue because I remember Elon stating he was taking it over to fix it for ideological reasons really.

[@Snp2024]

​@@Phil_AKA_ThundyUKi don't know about other things but I liked community notes feature in new Twitter. Also Twitter is sludge enough don't need other's (for now).

[@ratatatuff]

@@Phil_AKA_ThundyUK And due to his ideological reasons he turned it into an alt-right cesspool ....

[@cloudy_xDD]

Anything would be better than Twitter right now.

[@Elfo_]

I think one important information is missed in that video. Threads plans to connect to Mastodon in the future. So that Threads acts like a Mastodon instance. That means Threads user can follow and connect with Mastodon user and Mastodon user can follow and connect with Treads user.

[@valentinkrajzelman4649]

uuh that would be cool

[@Elfo_]

@@valentinkrajzelman4649 News to that from a few hours ago: "Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg announced that the company has started testing showing posts on Mastodon"

[@xWood4000]

​@@valentinkrajzelman4649It is a cool idea, but if too many people use Threads Meta will control the whole fediverse, and there's no point to have it decentralised then

[@CallMeTeci]

How are they gonna moderate this tho? Threads is highly moderated with relatively strict rules, while Mastodon is basically a free 4 all.

[@Elfo_]

@headlesszombie8689 "nobody on Mastodon"? Really? More like a small annoying minority who thinks and acts like the majority. And because Mastodon social is open for Threads and by far the biggest instance, most Mastodon users have access to Threads.

[@yuvalne]

CORRECTIONS: there absolutely IS a search function and account verification! saying otherwise is absolutely misleading! full-text search, as well as tag based search and advaced search (e.g. "has media", "from this date" etc.) is available in every 4.2 or later instance, which includes >70% of Mastodon instances (older instances have partial search capability). so this point is plain wrong! Mastodon's search isn't any worse than Twitter's. as for verification - there isn't centralised verification with ID because there is no centralisation, but there is website-based verification! so if you were to open a Mastodon account and add a link to it from TLDR News's website, that website would appear verified and everyone would know that that account is the same people that run TLDR, or in otherwise, that you are verified to be you.

[@Elfo_]

Thank you for clarifying that. I was very surprised to hear that wrong information in that video!

[@adancingdog]

There was quite a lot wrong about Threads as well… It does have tags, although they were only globally released this week, the feature has been in public testing for at least a couple weeks. Also, if they’re calling bluesky decentralised, then you could call threads too, given their intent on implementing activitypub and connecting with mastodon…

[@tomar81]

Such verification is not helpful for existing Twitter users, who apparently have difficulty identifying fake accounts, even knowing that each tweet displays a unique username.

[@patriciaa4451]

Does anyone else think Jack Dorsey looks like a tall Peter Dinklage?

[@CrimsonA1]

Twist: They're the same person, but while being Jack, he sits on the shoulders of a skinny dude.

[@dmhowcroft]

Mastodon has search and users can self verify if they have a website, which would be typical of accounts which need it most. The discussion of Twitter alternatives seems very under researched, to the point where it makes me doubt the quality of other TLDR content where I don't happen to know something about the topic already.

[@yuvalne]

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[@Elfo_]

I thought the same thing. You start questioning other videos when you see a video about the topic you know something about and you realize that the research was bad.

[@crypticTV]

As the name suggests TLDR is also kinda like Wikipedia a lot of questionable info but gives u kind of an idea lol

[@joshuahillerup4290]

Tldr itself has had videos pointing out that Twitter was never the largest social media platform. So I think this video needed to do a better job explaining what "replacing X" even means

[@ToshisanMotonaka]

Micro-blogging is replaced; Twitter was the default, especially for breaking news although it wasn't the biggest platform in terms of active and total users.

[@backlogbuddies]

I would prefer to go back to blogging. Having multiple sites with long blogs was fun

[@joshuahillerup4290]

@@backlogbuddies those still exist

[@joshua_lee732]

I want to correct you, mastodon does have search, hash tags, and even has a trending field. All if which are served over federation.

[@RIPBlueInk]

Why would there have to be a replacement? When a doctor cures cancer they don't start looking for something to replace it.

[@AugustoCuervo-hx9pr]

You do not understand how cancer works. There is no cure for cancer, just remedies to "delay" the inevitable. Oxidation reactions inside the cell can cause cancer by accident, which is normal. And, about the social media talking... Remember when Tumblr changed its policies back in 2019? Everyone was after Twitter for that reason.

[@dzeroprime1500]

It does if the cancer is called Elon Musk.

[@gardenmice2516]

It feels like a strange omission to not mention tumblr, which has 135million active users. Although I doubt it would take the place of twitter.

[@viskyboi1275]

lmao tumblr. Yea, its never going to be as big as it once was

[@co6308]

Tumblr is a cesspool of woke toxic people. Lmao!

[@taureon_]

@@viskyboi1275 even without the userbase, tumblr is cozy

[@CallMeTeci]

Yep, weirdly the only platform that i have tried that actually feels like it could work as an alternative that doesnt have the same issues Twitter has. (e.g. no char limit) Everything else feels either not made for the average person or simply like it would be in an alpha for the next 2 years.

[@lensy6]

bluesky's intended path of starting invite only and then opening up to be a twitter killer reminds me of gab, so i expect it will have the same impact of only being used by a fringe.

[@benamp00]

Another question is why there’s never been a serious competitor to Twitter before this time. Was it because twitter was so dominant, or was it because for a vast majority of its history, twitter hasn’t been profitable or desirable to replicate? It’s a loose cannon in terms of content and has a business model which is hard to make work, profit wise.

[@napoleonibonaparte7198]

Won't be too long until countries offer their own Twitters.

[@casbot71]

*_X_* will be able to pick up new advertising, such as pillows, cash for gold and survivalists prep kits.

[@janvanhoyk8375]

lol

[@evepreviouslyknownaslenenjoyer]

ratio

[@dux_bellorum]

😂😂😂 I laugh cause it's true....

[@GhostOnTheHalfShell]

Especially since Musk has identified an unmet need. Small and medium business are simply gagging to have their brands associated with conspiracy and hate groups.

[@phoenix5054]

Don't forget masculinity supplements.

[@DanielMolini1]

Don't think anything would replace Twitter, it's too popular. But another great alternative you didn’t mention in the video is Rabbilo. There’s no harassment or hate speech allowed, which is a big plus.

[@nickdaniels5892]

I don't usually see sloppy research from the TLDR team, but you know how I know no one at TLDR used Mastadon? They didn't happen to notice the GIANT FREAKING SEARCH BOX. 🤦

[@yuvalne]

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[@GhostOnTheHalfShell]

Also a member’s Mastodon timeline is *determined* by follows of people, groups or hash tags. You all really dropped the ball on your research.

[@eufrozinak9461]

i'm really enjoying Mastodon at the moment, it's great

[@GrantCelley]

A hobby programmer here. It is easy to build a social media app(website) but its hard to get the users.

[@cyberpunk.386]

Most of these social media platforms are overrated. The bulk of tweets is shallower than a sheet a paper and it's highly likely that only the poster will think it's of interest to the world.

[@jeffrey93849]

Judging from the massive failure of threads it’s clear no platform will replace X, the advertisers are already returning and the domain is the fifth most popular in the world

[@kstark321]

Yeah this video left out a lot of information. I'm sure it wasn't deliberate lmao.

[@blackhatmaster88]

For Threads, I'm wondering if the endgame plan from Meta is not to steal enough people from X to hurt their already poor finance even if Threads loses money. During that time, they can improve their plateform little by little and you might have a mature plateform ready to welcome X users when it's inevitably falls at which point they can start to think about benefits.

[@ItsMeChillTyme]

I'm thinking that X will be bought again and renamed back to twitter lol. It'll get sold for pennies on the dollar after elon makes a big show about it. But then again, what platform is he going to go to for massaging his massive ego by yes men?

[@philipjones3599]

Never going to work Instagram is totally the wrong platform to steal twitter users.

[@Anzallos]

2:25 To emphasize how bad it was, the tweet Elon replied to was itself a reply to a tweet literally asking for people who think "Hitler was right" to stop hiding behind anonymity and put their name to what they think. So on the one hand maybe Elon doesn't check the context of tweets he replies to. On the other, /maybe he does/

[@gligarguy4010]

One thing's for sure - it's impossible to be a good person and be a Twitter Blue subscriber.

[@GreenBlueWalkthrough]

Honestly Theads sounds like a nice place for creatives to post about their work and connect with each other... Which is one of the biggest reasons people use X at all.

[@yuvalne]

I'm rooting for Mastodon. not only does its decentralized nature save it from the ever looming threat of the enshittification that killed Twitter, but it's the most feature-full alternative, is the second largest after Threads even without counting the whole Fediverse ecosystem, and is the oldest and most mature of them. plus, it doesn't spy on you.

[@yuvalne]

@@xt5181 open the official app and tell me that it requires too much knowledge. literally guiding you through the steps and even picking a server for you.

[@joshuahillerup4290]

Mastodon feels like the heyday of Google+ for me, without the worry of Google shutting it down. But I think I'm one of the three people on the planet that used Google+

[@joshuahillerup4290]

@@xt5181 what I think might happen is some social media site will end up being federated on Mastadon, maybe several sites, that actually market themselves and sell to advertisers and whatnot. Mastodon itself will just be a technical detail that most users don't care or know about

[@dennisp8520]

Mastodon isn’t very good though I tried it and it kinda sucks. I’m rooting for something that isn’t threads by Facebook to crop up but more then likely that will be the replacement

[@joshuahillerup4290]

@@dennisp8520 I really like it personally, but I guess it depends a bit on what features you want, and mostly based on how many people you want to talk to are using it

[@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep]

I've always said the only chance is for a billion-dollar company to back a replacement or for a startup to do it WITH VC funding. Only Threads fits one of those criteria. I'm absolutely rooting for it, but it needs community features like trending topics and DMs.

[@diogor420]

UPDATE: Threads is already available in Europe!

[@Tobelia]

*And* joining the fediverse. A lot has happened since this video was uploaded 3 days ago…

[@Elfo_]

@@Tobelia It was already well known that Threads would join the fediverse at the time this video was made.

[@WongInvests]

surprised you didn't talk about Reddit? I've personally stopped using it too be clear I hate the platform but there are a lot of people still using it.

[@thekingoflordagames3517]

reddit isn't an alternative to twitter tho, it's an entirely different structure.

[@Blorp_]

Twitter is a blogging website, Reddit is a forum website

[@xWood4000]

Lemmy and Kbin are Mastodon compatible alternatives to Reddit then again. But they don't have all the interesting communities that Reddit has

[@yoshbennett8637]

Hopefully Bluesky opens up since threads is full of the most boring generic people. Twitter is slowly becoming 4chan 2 amd its sad there isnt a good enough competitor.

[@jeffrey93849]

It’s sad you hate free speech

[@AndersHass]

Isn't Threads supposed to be part of the Mastodon network?

[@AriaLavinde]

I think more than just naming one of the Fediverse platforms (Mastodon here), it would have been more accurate to talk about the many platforms that Mastodon can mutually communicate to, like Pleroma, Pixelfed, Misskey, etc. As they have the ability to built its feed wih users across these platforms (like how Pleroma users and Misskey users can show up on Mastodon and vice-versa), making the whole group, surely only merely more potent than what is presented on the graph, but still presenting what can be a good alternative to networks on a rivalry with each other. That being said, the video still retains a good point: even if we took the conglomerated Fediverse in comparison, Twitter is still miles away in terms of userbase volume despite decaying a bunch by its poor decisions and management. More than new challengers in my opinion, it would take fatal mistakes on X's part for a better platform concurrency to be restored.

[@DallasMay]

Your Mastodon user count is WAY LOW. I don't know where you got that number. It's more like 14 million users today.

[@Altralaltral]

Yes Mastodon has more than 14 million accounts, but TLDR is showing estimated monthly active users. 1.8 million is probably about right.

[@jasonplayer9047]

He should fix his active user chart: ~350 million Twitter/X ~10.3 million Threads ~1.8 million Mastodon ~.5 million Bluesky The problem in this video is that he mixes the active users and total number of accounts, kind of messing with the respective scales. He mentions an estimated 10.3 million active users for Threads... but uses the 100 Million total users in his active user chart. Blue Sky is much smaller than Mastodon for both active users and total number of accounts. But by using the total number of users of Blue Sky vs active Blue Sky, he makes them look roughly the same by as Mastodon by comparing the wrong numbers. Total number of accounts: ~1.3 billion Twitter/X ~100 million Threads ~14.5 million Mastodon ~2 million Bluesky

[@PeterPan-ev7dr]

None - Twitter - X is just having an enormous comeback ..

[@1378N]

5:40 Hopefully, they give priority to genuine engagement from real individuals, allowing brands to tailor their marketing strategies accordingly.

[@Spiral.Dynamics]

The paradox of tolerance states that if you tolerate everything you will eventually stifle the speech of people who are not safe in that unmoderated space.

[@yscol1313]

Elon Musk didn’t tell “all advertisers” to go f themselves… only the ones that were trying to assert influence of what he can and cannot say.

[@ratatatuff]

Sure, those evil evil advertisers who don't want their ads to appear next to Nazi propaganda, conspiracy theorists and alt-right bs ... Damn, just how naive are you?

[@arsonal3]

Just a note that Threads does have tags now. I forget what they’re calling them but thought I would ad that detail here.

[@SeanTube2099]

Good video, but it didn’t mention that Threads is working to make their service compatible with mastodon. So that’s a combined service (eventually).

[@tonygq9267]

I don't want to be the one who says it but Threads won't replace twitter unless is much less censored (allows sensible content +18), have a trends option and let you login without your IG account.

[@victor38542]

I fail understand the argument that Mastodon won't succeed because it doesn't want advertisers. Usually, ads follow users, not the other way around; so I don't think a lack of advertisers is a problem in any way. In fact, I'd consider that a pretty big advantage for users, if only because they won't be the product. Conversely, the presence of advertisers on other platforms, and the monetization of user data by the makers of these platforms, are huge deterrents for a growing number of people who realize the inherent risk to all this, especially when government-business collusion peaks new records every year that passes. What did I miss in your video?

[@SSingh-nr8qz]

Mastodon is NOT TWITTER and never should be. Twitter or X has always been everything wrong with social media. Mastodon has worked hard to prevent that and that is the reason its smaller but more respected when you actually want to have a thoughtful conversion vs being called a racist or anything under the sun for exploring important ideas.

[@Sekhmmett]

Thanks for the video

[@bigbadslimee]

none of these alternatives are going to replace x becuase non of them support nsfw content, people don't want to admit it but they are a major driving factor for x's success.

[@taureon_]

there are mastodon instances for that

[@jwolternova1051]

I believe mastodon and bluesky do, which is also why I know they both have a large furry comunity...

[@jeffrey93849]

I’m unsubscribing it’s clear that this video is poorly researched and full of bias X mean daily active users have actually increased , advertisers are already returning Netflix just did today

[@taipizzalord4463]

Threads once it has a lot of depth in features will still threaten Twitter especially when users migrate to it as they are sick of being rate limited.

[@cameronmitchell8180]

People migrate and leave. A bunch of company and generic posts.

[@nanopulga098]

As someone who has used all four. I think Bluesky has the better chance. It's basically twitter again and works fine. It lacks some features but it's still a closed beta so I don't mind it. It feels the most familiar to Twitter while the others don't. Threads is only algorithm based, something not even Twitter was (it still and has always let you use chronological timeline), and it feels full of people who hates the internet in a way? Plus it's owned by Meta and it works terribly in the EU even with a VPN, it's yet another thing Instagram tries to copy and doesn't fully do it. Mastodon is the one that actually feels like tech people, not Bluesky from my experience over the months, a hive mind of tech people who can't accept things can be improved, if you criticise Mastodon they tell you to just find a new instance, so many instances, all with different rules and UI, i hate it.

[@davidioanhedges]

Mastodon is not a Twitter replacement, but then it never was intended to be, If you only saw tech people complaining about twitter, that was just the instance you were on, the advice to pick another one was valid - it's very closed, and group centric ..

[@historypersonguy]

Hopefully something good replaces twitter. Elon made it so much worse.

[@spenarkley]

Its much better in fact

[@historypersonguy]

@spenarkley wait so you're saying X is better because of what Musk has done with it?

[@spenarkley]

@@historypersonguy Absolutely. Anyone who claims otherwise isnt actually using it and bases his opinion purely on the reportings of mad emotional people that hate on him.

[@historypersonguy]

@spenarkley - He mentions free speech was his motivation, yet disables free speech on the site 🤦‍♂️. - He plans to remove the block feature - making the verification system a paid service - He enables hate speech on the platform to a point where it has inspired actual riots in real life. - he forces his voice on others. He has himself as the most suggested account on the site. As the CEO of a site dedicated to hearing news, he should be responsible with what he says, but no, he shares really bad takes and forces everyone to listen. Such an abuse of power. - It is borderline impossible to avoid negativity on the site. With the coming removal of the block feature, this will be more difficult. There are more reasons to mention, but I just thought I'd mention a few that come to mind.

[@tomar81]

If those big companies stop advertising does it mean there is less ads on X right now or other companies took those slots? If they left because they worried X will damage their reputation then how are things right now for companies that stayed? Did any of them got cancelled already or at least you think less of them because they are still there?

[@teekaa2520]

X currently has about 90% junk advertisement, meaning advertisement with no established brand behind it. compared to KZbin where the ratio of junk seems to vary between 10% and 40%. Some classic big spenders seem to have dialed down online advertisement across all platforms. But it makes a better press release if you talk about specifically avoiding X.

[@zenroles]

10:24 Yo that screenshot of Mastodon UI tho 😅

[@MRMixedup]

Not Threads launching in Europe a day after TLDR said it's not available due to strict data laws ☠

[@cartelion]

Cartelion could replace X

[@MichaelFomenko]

Cartelion is great

[@wavealmas5935]

Im one year on Cartelion, Im not shure if Cartelion is a direct replacement of X, it is more a replacement for Facebook.

[@Financial_Revolution]

Bla bla bla. WHO is paying you?

[@kevincronk7981]

Wait Jack Dorsey started a company to compete with X? Did they not have the brains to have him sign a non-compete agreement when he left as CEO?

[@bobrossopinions]

He was not ceo at the time. It was that no name guy from india who loves to censor people.

[@ajfrostx]

Threads already added search and hashtags, and they are removing hard link with Instagram accounts soon. The comparison to Reels also doesn't work as TikTok is as popular as ever while Twitter is actively self-destructing.

[@ReddAngry]

0:33 I bet you guys were so excited to be able to make this quote.

[@__Liza__]

Bluesky should change its name and logo. Threads and Mastodon UI are beautiful

[@karenwang313]

Mastodon and the rest of the "fediverse" don't stand a chance in replacing twitter. If a seasoned tech enthusiast like me has trouble figuring out how the decentralized network works, there is no way a normie will ever give it a shot. It'll probably stick around as a niche internet community, but not as a mainstream competitor.

[@RandomPerson-uw1oo]

Mastodon is my favorite one, I like the idea that no one owns them. Ads may be important to support the creator of the App, but it's ok in Mastodon cause no one owns them unlike literary all other platform in this video, which also mean there's no distraction for users. And it having alot of community like Reddit and Amino, but having all community connected so not needing to join multiple means you won't leave out your friend for joining a community they are not into, and some can also join a community that has a rules they like more too. Lol XD At the moment, Mastodon feel like the most community-driven and the more freedom, which is why Mastodon is my favorite. Lol XD I don't think open-source automatically make the app good, even more so if it ended up being very complicated for casual people to use in order to become open-source, but if it's both that good and open-source and not all that complicated for casual people to even start using the app then AWESOME! That's why I like Mastodon so much. Don't get me wrong, it is abit more complicated than Twitter but mostly because it had things I never experienced in Twitter before such as a community system like Reddit but with all community connected, not because there's some coding involved like Linux. So it was easy to get used to it after I started using Mastodon. Lol XD

[@VinceroAlpha]

I just love how causally nonchalant British people use the f - bomb.😂😂😂

[@86fuser]

LinkedIn has exploded since the whole X madness

[@DarkFruitsAnimation]

No, it has not. Nobody uses LinkedIn.

[@Dani-kq6qq]

LinkedIn has way more users than twitter and makes way more money. And yeah, im never calling twitter "X".😂@@DarkFruitsAnimation

[@guizaoacc]

Twitter is the fifth most visited website in the world with 5.9 billion monthly visits. That is a 9% increase since Musk bought it. Linkedin is the 16th most visited website with 1.7 billion monthly visits. It decreased 0.2% in the same period. So you are lying.

[@86fuser]

@@DarkFruitsAnimation houkey dad

[@86fuser]

In my field it has become indispensable. literally found all my jobs through it

[@AndreAmorim-AA]

The Nostr protocol will be truly decentralized, where users actually control their data. Perfect for bitcoiners…

[@AustrianPainter14]

That tweet wasn’t that bad. It was the truth indeed.

[@zinussan50]

Blue Sky has possibilities to become BS meme

[@Lila_UrarakaYT]

Mastodon isn’t a social media, it is social networking

[@myspewedcomment156]

I think X(Twitter) is actually going to get better and better. I plan on paying the $16 fee all throughout 2024. I just want to support free speech.

[@bobbrown8661]

Yea nah they wont.

[@BodyByBenSLC]

Hopefully none. We need less social media not more.

[@wadas9042]

i dont think people start using program that cancels some topics. if youtube would be new, nobody would start using it.

[@Kyrephare]

One very big thing that this video misses is how X might kill itself. In a few countries, it started to test a 1$ fee to create a new account. While thats not much, pretty much anyone is going to look at another service first instead of forking over $ buy an account on X. As this video points out, some of the difficulties of Blue Sky and Threads is the inability to just make an account and use the platform directly. Not to mention Elon has said that he intends Twitter to be a profitable company, and he is still losing money after cutting staff to the bare bones. Banks got burned with his purchase of X and investors in Tesla arent happy he sold stock to buy X. As such he might have more trouble raising capital for it in the future. So the question is, how long does he let if live under his rule if its seems like a money pit?

[@gnoccialpesto]

"Oi gone rock shoe" 😂😂

[@bendrihem2002]

views in some X posts in 4 hours is more then the users of all of the alternatives

[@NumbersUpNorth]

Follow the furries that run the whole Internet. They went to BlueSky.

[@shubhankar915]

Threads added tags recently

[@Fr_g]

Threads is launching in Europe tomorrow

[@sidensvans67]

So it is true that these companies are blackmailing X Twitter . Hmm

[@KenMathis1]

Google should relaunch Google+, but this time as a standalone product without forced integration with their other services.

[@Rafael-vi4to]

The most privacy invasive service? Bring it back? Please no.

[@KenMathis1]

@@Rafael-vi4to What part of "...but this time as a standalone product without forced integration with their other services" did you not get?

[@gideonsteward93]

threads sucks, i tried it.

[@Jubbable]

This video was made before the massive exodus from X after the American Election.

[@martinfobert9407]

Any of these apps, or one we haven't heard of yet, can take over for X-Twitter. I think it's also still possible that Twitter will take over for 'X' (formally known as Twitter). It's still possible that Musk will f off one day, due to a variety of possible reasons, and whomever takes over reverts it back to what it was. Then there will be a mass return to the platform. If Musk drives the platform into the ground someone can buy it for a fraction of it's current value, restore the app to a previous version, then sell it for billions.

[@yscol1313]

Musk himself could decide to revert to Twitter branding… he’s not afraid of admitting his mistakes.

[@xWood4000]

​@@yscol1313He is very afraid of admitting his mistakes 😂 e.g. the infamous pedo calling case

[@cw6043]

"no search function" is technically invalid... but yes search is less nice than twitter's

[@duck1123]

Shame that there was no mention of nostr in this.

[@mikhailsharon4331]

X is so ahead of its rival that there is no true rival.

[@hifijohn]

Twitter may go the way of the hyperloop.

[@mikemonkfish2395]

Hmm, I think that the analysis in this video is incomplete, either intentionally or through poor research. For example the video mentions 'profit' many times, yet only talks about revenue. Whilst Twitter/X under Musk has poorer ad revenue, reduction in staffing costs and also infrastructure costs are not accounted for or even mentioned. Musk had set a target for a $1B saving in infrastructure costs, perhaps this should have been investigated or at least mentioned, if not then just stick to Ad-revenue as your metric rather than 'Profitability'. Secondly, many may see your reporting of a decrease in active users as an implication that these are humans leaving the platform through some sort of protest. Remember, part of the issues of the takeover was the large number of bot accounts that had been mis-reported by the previous board. Musk has a published objective of reducing bots; he has removed 3rd party apps and api access to X. This will have reduced bot presence on the platform, to what extent would have been an interesting angle, but no, this was not mentioned at all.

[@JulienDLauriers]

I agree, but it's pretty clear they never intended to do an actual unbias analysis of the situation. They are just milking views from Elon's name.

[@ratatatuff]

That's complete nonsense. There are more bots than ever on "X". It was also not an "issue of the takeover", the issue was that Musk tried to find a way out and he needed an excuse. I don't understand how anyone could be gullible enough to believe Musk's lies. Reducing the staff is a meaningless gesture when you don't have ad revenue. Don't try to pretend that even firing everyone would make up more than a tiny and forgettable fraction of the money that Musk lost due to his antics in ad revenue. You're just a naive Musk simp.

[@ratatatuff]

@@JulienDLauriers That's quite an unbiased analysis. Of course, Musk simps get angry when other people don't praise their daddy.

[@ryanhileman3757]

Everyone is mad at youtube 24/7. The dislike button, the algorithm, questionable motives n policies, etc. And alternatives to youtube do exist! They just havent been able to take off due to yt monopoly. Hopefully, twitter is the same story.

[@davidjennings2179]

Do you mean hopefully twitter's competitors can't take off?

[@ryanhileman3757]

@@davidjennings2179 ideally lol. Lets just keep the world simple with one big public square social media. Theres already 5 too many.

[@davidjennings2179]

@@ryanhileman3757 interesting. What makes you feel like one having a monopoly is better than having many different ones?

[@ryanhileman3757]

@@davidjennings2179its not that its a monopoly that makes it better. Its just i dont think social media in general is healthy, and having many of them does 2 things. 1. Isolate people into progressively worse echo chambers as now entire platforms are dedicated to that demographic (view trumps truth network), and 2. Split our already damaged attentionspan between multiple apps sucking up even more time.

[@davidjennings2179]

@@ryanhileman3757 Don't get me wrong, there is a tonne wrong with social media - I agree with you there - but monopolies don't feel any pressure to improve if they don't feel their customers have an alternative. Ideally they always feel someone is snapping at their heels and need to get better. Echo chambers are terrible but I'm not sure they're really avoidable either - things like trump social are worse, certainly, but people will always find a way to create spaces like that whether it's a Masterdon server or the corner of their local pub if people don't want to hear the opinions of anyone who disagrees they'll make it happen.

[@davidblair9877]

I am so grateful that I don’t use Twitter.

[@CaiRobinson]

Bluesky is to me the one most set to fail, mastadon works by appealing to subcutures and interest groups. Threads obv has Meta behind it and thus can exisit. But Bluesky just feels pretentious

[@marcanthony8873]

The app just launched today in the EU

[@captainnakou]

oh for f* sake guys seriously you're a news network, you can't say shit like "jake dorsey is behind bluesky" when it's not the case for more than a year, yeah he bootstrapped the project and is technically on the board but it's jay's network now, it's mostly piloted by jay and her dev team and jake like it so much than he deleted his bluesky account and left for Nostr (the twitter clone for cryptobro).

[@taureon_]

also theyre wrong about mastodon not having a search function or verification

[@Glitteringmoonstone2022]

I was never a twitter fan but I do enjoy Blue sky

[@bryrusmi4001]

5:36 Twitter isn't a news source, not sure how to characterize it, but not news and I won't touch it.

[@grrgrrgrr0202]

Twitter just should disappear without replacement.

[@LevNikolayevichMyshkin]

Certain people will never move to platforms with less freedom of expression. Other platforms that are not as free speech oriented will become echo chambers moderated by people who think men can breastfeed.

[@supersam5802]

Ah yes the free speech to be a hateful bigot, I love that freedumb. Maybe one day you’ll be a real human with morals and realize why bigots aren’t human.

[@alx9r]

This. Omitting the differences freedom of expression has on content makes me wonder what other blind spots the folks at TLDR aren’t interested in reporting on. This whole video is rather lousy journalism given the Missouri v Biden case still making its way through the courts.

[@ratatatuff]

X isn't free-speech oriented at all.

[@xWood4000]

X promotes far right tweets, and hides normal tweets. That's not free speech. And they have had to ban accounts despite Musk saying they wouldn't because a social platform has to be regulated by someone, but yes I don't like that it's a tech company doing it either. And the government would do a much worse job

[@chrisbeog]

First, but X/Twitter still has a while to go. I don’t know if i like threads

[@LeandroQuibemMagnabosco]

Threads is awful. X/Twitter will stay here for a long while.

[@ratatatuff]

Hopefully X goes bankrupt soon. It's become an absolute right-wing cesspool.

[@Snp2024]

​@@ratatatuffwhat? No maybe their are more right winger s now but it's definitely not cesspool wth are u talking about not to mention hoping some business fails bcz they're not align with you're "wing" is quiet pathetic

[@LeandroQuibemMagnabosco]

@@ratatatuff the video literally shows that X Is more left wing. I'm confused.

[@ratatatuff]

@@LeandroQuibemMagnabosco It is not. It even wasn't before Musk took over. The first thing he did was reinstate all the alt-right accounts that got banned for hate speech and calls to violence. And he started banning left-wing accounts and people who just made fun of him. He turned Twitter into an absolute disaster. edit: and where tf would this video show that it was "more left wing"?

[@ohwellplaythecardsthatimgi9494]

Twitter, or X, not being held hostage by Advertisers is a good thing. Twitter should have never have been profitable, making money off Twitter entails dystopian information harvesting and a nightmare world of endless personalized ads. Musk is just going to eat the cost himself and Twitter is going to be just as relevant as it ever was, even, I dare say, a little better.