Which Rosalina Build Will Score the Most Goals?

[@TheShallowBoy23]

From what i gather, the 21 tech will get you more goals on long range charged shots, taking full advantage of the tech curves. But a build with better shooting will likely get more goals off rebounds, crosses and uncharged shots being naturally faster and stronger

[@jaxjamieson6552]

Thanks for all the battle league content, I'm really enjoying it. I wanted to mention that the confidence interval for this type of score/not score analysis is p +/- 1.96 * sqrt (p*(1-p)/n) where p is the sample probability of scoring and n is the number of shots. When I do the calculation for p=0.54 and n=50 I start with 0.54 +/- 1.96 * sqrt(0.54*0.46/50). My conclusion is that I'm 95% confident that the true probability of scoring from the center circle with Rosalina's 20 Shooting & 19 Technique Gear is between 40.9% and 67.8%. I might try a similar analysis with more trials on my own, but feel free to comment back if you're interested in teaming up to pool data.

[@eclipse_zeta]

So the best build is the one I've been using since day 1. I guess I'm doing something right.

[@primemetroid4427]

It’s tough finding a build. I find Rosalina extremely slow/sluggish with this build. A speedy peach with high tech can get in position easily and get sone nutty curves and goals from whack angles. Downside is you need to get in good position because you lack shooting with that build. Tough… still trying to find my builds

[@ramon-tv1bl]

I have a suggestion for you regarding a gear setup for Rosalina. Trick Helmet, Turbo Gloves, Trick Pad, and Bushido Sandals. This setup provides 9 strength, 15 speed, 16 shooting, 7 passing, and 16 techinque. A fairly well-rounded build overall, with shooting and technique having the same values, as well as speed coming right behind them. But bear in mind she won't be too good of a passer or tackler.

[@thebwahboi7616]

With Rosalina, you don’t want to have her carry the ball across the field. What I find most effective is carrying downfield with peach and once Rosa is in a good position, lob bass it to her for a perfect shot.

[@primemetroid4427]

@@thebwahboi7616 ya and you can also take pretty successful perfect shots from midfield.

[@ramon-tv1bl]

@@thebwahboi7616 That is true, but Toad technically does the same thing with a slightly higher passing stat without sacrificing any speed. Just something to note. His passes are a little more reliable than Peach's.

[@thebwahboi7616]

@@ramon-tv1bl peach has a fine passing stat too, but peach is also great for her technique stat which toad doesn’t have much of. That’s why I prefer Peach.

[@franklyons9754]

Try: Head "-", Arms "Bushido", Chest "Cannon", Leg "Bushido". I know that sounds odd. 10,12,17,8,16. You can add a trick Helmet if you want the added Tech. I played a 10 minute match against easy computer, got off 73 full charge shots from center line, only had 5 completely missed shots, ended up with a score of 49. I think the Shooting stat is tiered and the Technique stat is effected by the gap between the two stats. I didn't see much of a difference between this setup (Shoot-17 Tech-16), Shoot-17 Tech-18, Shoot-20 Tech-19, or Shoot-18 Tech-21 as far as accuracy. All had about the same results.

[@franklyons9754]

After further testing, feels like Shooting and Technique have tier levels. I notice a bit more of a difference in how the ball flys after passing certain values (even by 1 point). Feels like it goes by multiple of 4. 1-4, 5-8, 9-12, 13-16, 17-20, 21-24, 25. I saw this difference most using Luigi and Rosalina. If you set Luigi’s shooting to 11, you can see how much the ball curves. And with a 25, it seems the ball likes to land in Boom boom’s box then bounce in the goal (Luigi disrespecting the goalie). In fact, with shooting at 11, a Technique of 21 seems to score more often. I started noticing a few complete missed shots between 17-20 (about 5%) and even more between 12-16 (about 10%). Technique also seems to be more useful for the long shots, much like you showed with the combo-shots.

[@skycaboose]

I'd love to see you this testing with all the other characters (been struggling to figure out a good Strength build for DK) looking forward to who ever you do next. Can you do Mario, Peach, Waluigi, Toad, or DK next

[@sickoselfish312]

Here is what I use in my Donkey Kong. Head - Muscle Helmet Arms - Chain Gauntlets Body - Bushido Armor Legs - Bushido Sandals This give him a good amount of speed and great strength to tackle the strongest builds. He also has great passing. The only downsides are his shooting and technique, but he isn't going to be shooting anyways because he will be defending so you won't be using him for shooting. You will be using him for his defensive power and great passing ability. Give it a try! :)

[@skycaboose]

@@sickoselfish312 yeah I know of that DK build heck I tried suggesting if DK would still be as good if you use Cannon Gloves instead of chain but again Idk I mean before this build came out for Rosalina a build that I've been seeing is Trick Helmet Canon Chest Bushido Arms Bushido Legs So it's just more so me hoping that that build for DK is his best or seeing if there is anything to make it possibly better (also i know DK is a Defender Bowser is the other and i want to say Wario could also be a defender idk were he'd be), I see Speed Demon Peaches, and God Speed Toad but there is always some variation on both (more so Toad cause i hardly ever see someone play Peach) I've seen 1 build that has Max speed Toad, 1 with 21 speed and 1 with 23 Speed they all had 8 strength, one had the 2nd stat in Passing (perfect cause he's a mid fielder 14/25 8 in every other stat) 1 where his Shooting was the 2nd highest (13/25) and 1 where Shooting were at 12/25 and Passing was 10/25 and Waluigi i want to say is a mid-fielder could be wrong and I saw one build had him at 20/25 for both Strength and Speed (really dont know what positions the other characters are i just know these few cause they are the most commonly played)

[@skycaboose]

@@sickoselfish312 the Waluigi build I saw was Muscle Helmet Muscle Chest Muscle Arms Bushido Sandals For 20/25 Strength and Speed

[@sickoselfish312]

@@skycaboose Yeah I would say waluigi is a midfielder, I usually use him as mid and then DK as a defender. My team right now is Rosa (stricker/forward), Toad (midfielder), waluigi (midfielder), DK (defence), this has been working out well for me. I have a max speed toad 25/25 with 10 strength and he still has 10/25 shooting and passing so thats decent. Cause without the extra strength toad just feels really weak and I think having speed on the wings is super good, hence the waluigi. I sometimes go with a waluigi with no gear or just a tech helmet and speed gloves. Idk what's best yet. Still a lot of testing that needs to be done. But I think Rosa is a must have in every lineup, so is waluigi

[@skycaboose]

@@sickoselfish312 I just have no idea what position Wario, Weegee, I guess Mario (cause i assume Mario would be another frontliner/captain but if not id would say an all arounder however i could be wrong) 😅, and Yoshi and I'm hoping that the DK is the best (for now) also Skocker it's Mario spin-off games and Waluigi is one of the best characters

[@tranazzi]

Instead of a super team, beating galactic championship cup should unlock Pablo Sanchez #GOAT

[@TonesBalones]

LOL

[@blazedenenra]

As a rosa fan I approve of these tests I love when she's in games. Especially love the fact they made a new super chargers game and added all the new favorites

[@mattwazx]

Love things thanks for all the work you doing can you also try all the stages of technique with no shooting and vice versa? Would like to see how they compare to the maxes

[@thecamishere4344]

well now there's Birdo who's an even greater sniper that MUST be tested. you should definitely get at least 65 if not 70% with 22 technique and shooting

[@drago77blu38]

I don't know why, but I find myself amused seeing Boom Boom constantly getting beat with all those shots on goal.

[@thecamishere4344]

I tested this with the best Rosalina build possible except the AI would function but on Easy difficulty. I had only 6 less shots and scored 5 more goals. 36/44 which was 20% more than you. She's even more broken than one would think. I sent you the proof in your instagram dms dude. Especially with that sweet spot, she's very likely to ace it in

[@le_chef-Klown]

Wario who can do all 3 stats at once: laughing in sniper

[@Chibuga]

Huh wow I was already using this exact build way before watching this video. Mostly because I found technique to be more useful in ranged shots but still wanted some power in the shot in case I need another character to rebound.

[@Peezer1]

Love the testing! My take on shooting vs tech is that both can help with different scenarios. I see shooting more useful on first touch tap shots as it can knock the goalkeeper down or possibly sneak past them while they adjust with the ball. Charged shots seem to be a combo of both stats but lean on tech for more success. I think as the game evolves players will abuse passing/shooting vs right now I see more charged shots

[@Prodigial]

I think that people use Rosalina wrong as a striker. Put her in the midfield and another power forward as striker (Captain Bowser build is what I use). Rosalina's build that you use here makes her a menace from long distance, and midfielders get more opportunities for long range shots. This allows you to maximize your scoring potential with a power forward you can cross balls into and a shooting ace in the wing for cheesy goals. I use the build you use here. If you use her a forward who will be doing more close range shots; I think shooting builds over technique may be better but haven't tested.

[@keesjrR]

With the stat technique you can dodge better right? How is that in combination with speed stats. Will that matter? How much difference is the passing stats (especially manual pass)

[@xavierlarochelle2742]

I would be curious to have the complete dataset of your shots w/ rosa to see how reliable we can expect those estimates to be considering all the variables considered (stats, distance, charge, pass). It would make for a pretty fun logistic regression modeling problem.

[@TonesBalones]

The only thing regressing around here is my hairline.

[@JandJproductions1809]

Does the channel have a strikers club or Discord to join? Big fan of the analysis vids. Great detail.

[@charleslucas911]

My go to team atm is captain rosa with the bushido armor build Luigi 25 technique Wario 17 speed DK defender

[@KunoichiPeri]

So here is my question, so we have established which build is best overall. However, not everyone on the team can have BOTH shooting and technique…so my question is as follows, if I have a character with ONLY high technique or ONLY high shooting are there locations around the goal that a particular attribute will score more from? I guess what I’m trying to say is if I have a character like say Luigi and I have max technique but low shooting, will I perform better shots from the wings?

[@TonesBalones]

I covered this in my shooting vs technique video, but basically if you max either one they will perform about the same. Shooting is much more effective for one-time shots and will knock out more often. Technique will curve around the goalie from farther, seemingly unaffected by low shooting. So yes, Luigi can make shots from far out or on the sides with high technique and low shooting. So can Peach.

[@MNF54]

another gread video bro! u have a new sub‘👏🏽 Can you maybe do the best Mario build?

[@TonesBalones]

In the future I'll do a Mario v Rosalina comparison. I bet Mario is gonna be pretty close because he can get to 17-22

[@marvinbido4073]

Love your Mario strikers videos

[@TonesBalones]

Thanks!

[@marvinbido4073]

Dude, could you try Mario with Different builds?. Like the 17 Shooting and 22 technique build. This one has also 10 or 11 speed which is nice. I think Mario is slept on by the community. Most of my goals are from Mario

[@trevongermany7435]

Keep up the great work!

[@MysticTheUnicorn]

I wonder what Rosalina would be like if *ALL* her stats were *Maxed Out*

[@lukereed1108]

What’s the build for 18/21

[@smashbattle6969]

Can you do best gear build for Mario as well?

[@st0shattack]

I run a 20/15 build and love it. Gives me extra speed and strength to compete with anyone

[@TonesBalones]

You're probably not missing much from the points tbh. Having more speed is definitely valid.

[@st0shattack]

I’m not! There’s 13 strength and 10 speed which keeps me competitive against nearly any character. 20/15 shooting and technique is still lethal.

[@barcster2003]

​@@st0shattack it probably still good but the 20/19 has a high ability to score.

[@barcster2003]

​@@st0shattack the 18/21 is even more insane.

[@Theterminato2013]

What’s the build you have for Rosalina?

[@RayAteMushrooms]

You should make a Discord server that focus on striker stats/tests/measurements

[@beruga]

Good tests. Can you try crosses with a 25 shooting build? In my experience she scores almost every time.

[@Mav-Zero]

Didn't you just say in a couple videos ago that every stat change only counts with 5 added stats. Only speed being an exclusion, but you're talking about 18 level stats. I'm very confused, but I probably missed something.

[@marvinbido4073]

He is still doing tests. But it seems that all the stats are linear indeed. Every point count.

[@primemetroid4427]

You mixed it up. His vid was the reverse. Speed was tiers of 5 not the rest. However that was wrong and speed is also linear and he updated the vid. Everything seems linear.

[@Mav-Zero]

@@primemetroid4427 thank you and Marvin for the replies! Omg I feel like such an idiot now. I've been putting every stat on round numbers for no reason T_T

[@Mav-Zero]

@@marvinbido4073 thank you and Prime Metroid for the replies! Omg I feel like such an idiot now. I've been putting every stat on round numbers for no reason T_T

[@primemetroid4427]

@@Mav-Zero lol no worries. Now you are free to build how you like!

[@chohopei1422]

Hey, please test Mario, another S tier character

[@Smoah]

how did you get the icons?

[@ellok3677]

enable visual help in the options menu

[@derbar4340]

Why is everybody talking about op Rosalina but nobody mentioning Mario whose innate shooting and technique stats add up to 30 as well (same as Rosalina)?

[@TonesBalones]

In my latest tier list I wanted to make it clear Mario is also a monster. Rosalina has a slight edge because she can make more use of the technique Bushido bracers, but you're right they can both max out at 39 shooting + tech.

[@mattwazx]

Would also like to see how the total points between the two stats compare in the future thank you

[@SupermanMFL]

Rosalina is op with equal shooting and technique yoshi is also a great choice but minimize his stats

[@JoshSmith-jq9tw]

I laugh at all these rosalina players because of the enjoyment i get out of tackling them non stop all game making them rage quit rofl. Defense wins

[@dinorasanchez70]

are you the voice actor of chris griffin?

[@KunoichiPeri]

Rosalina in other games: Rosalina: *pure unadulterated cuteness and innocence Rosalina in Strikers: Rosalina: *Literally calls in orbital strikes down upon her rivals, nuking them from space. Daisy: “Hi, I’m Daisy” Rosalina: Bitch please, *literally deletes her from existence Rosalina: Don’t worry Daisy, I’ll take great care of Luigi! Peach: “Hello, I’m Princess Peach.” *innocent smile Rosalina: Bitch please, you think your a big shot cuss your a princess! Bitch, I’m the fucking queen of space! * Blasts her with her Hyper Strike

[@Trilll64]

You the man

[@Noah-jq6es]

I got 23 shooting 15 technik she Makes nerly every shot i shoot

[@TazTheYellow]

Tbh I think Rosalina is overrated somewhat. Sure, if you just need someone to stand in the opponent's field and take shots when open, she's obviously unparalleled, but in a majority of situations, her abysmal speed makes her a liability, *especially* when compared with Mario! Personally, for the Striker role, I recommend Mario with the Trick Helmet, Bushido Bracers, Cannon Plate, and Cannon Boots.

[@TazTheYellow]

Trick Pad is of course a viable alternative to the Cannon Plate, according to preference.

[@alfaudy5607]

The best wario build

[@TonesBalones]

That would be a tricky one! Wario can fill a bunch of roles.

[@DimzReacts]

19-19 better

[@TonesBalones]

Why have 19-19 when you can have 20-19?

[@prof9647]

Again, sloppy testing. Score with other team first, that way you (and that art of the state piece of shit goalie) will have exact same position every single time. This will give more consistent results. Also, I don't see results for shot angles. You were using d-pad to test all shot angles and not just randomly kicking the ball, right?

[@DimzReacts]

lol

[@MrBeGorda]

this strikers game is really boring, it's a matter of shooting.. no self-pass, not optimal through pass on the walls to score, not cool abilities for each character, slow gameplay, etc. game for kids imo

[@spongebobsquarepants5896]

What the hell is a self pass

[@neppy4921]

@@spongebobsquarepants5896 was a thing in mario strikers charged. you could chip the ball slightly and then shoot again. basically being a self pass

[@Erasuma]

agreed. after 3 days I already got burned out from playing. scoring is way too easy, happens too frequently and ruins the flow of the game. the perfect passes/shots etc. are too lenient imo

[@prof9647]

you can do self-pass, you need manual controls for that

[@dave9515]

I didn't even buy it after trying the demo lol. Might get it sometime next year but thats when single player content is better although the gameplay ain't looking that great to me the more i see it. The gear system was a cool concept but it effectively isn't implemented well at all and the gameplay loop is about pleasing the ai audience so its about putting on the best show and boom boom's ai looks worse than kritter's which was already bad but i think the goalie sucking is also good at the same time except in Boom Boom's case. Also Battle League has self pass.