Which RTX 4070 to BUY and AVOID?! | 46 Cards Compared! First Ever F Tier from MSI!

[@yarikar]

These videos are insanely informative. Wow, thank you so much! This helped me deciding so much on what brand to pick.

[@eddhill446]

Thanks for taking the time to test and share.

[@OTechnology]

You're welcome!

[@MrKvasi]

The E version of the MSI Ventus cards seems to have thermal pads on all VRMs.

[@MrJuba08]

i plan to buy this card today. i am shocked after the video. thanks so much for your information.

[@derbigpr500]

@@MrJuba08 If you're planning to buy it now it's probably the upgraded version anyway.

[@cthulhu_original]

⁠@@derbigpr500I just bought the rtx 4070 super ventus 3x today

[@Maxime-xr7er]

@@derbigpr500 is the msi ventus 2x gddr6 (non x) also updated? it released after the gddr6x models

[@vulcan4d]

What is funny about some of these cards, it's like these manufacturers never built a GPU before. I mean come on, build them right and don't make 5 models of the same GPU to confuse the consumer.

[@overdigitize]

Would love to see where the Asus Proart 4070 oc lands in this tier list

[@OTechnology]

I only have youtube super thanks for donations, for those asking in previous videos. (I don't have anything else setup for now lol) Donate or not thanks for the support as always!

[@lkline000]

There is an issue currently going on regarding gigabyte pcb breaking. Can you shed some light on that. I am confused b/w gigabyte gaming oc vs asus dual

[@OTechnology]

@@lkline000 Yes I have seen the videos around that. They blame it on Gigabyte's PCB shape making the PCIe slot lock farther out than other cards. I really don't think it's an issue unless you ship the system or move it around a lot that can cause stress on the PCB. Otherwise, we would see way more coverage on it if it was a problem that many people experienced.

[@lkline000]

@@OTechnology so which 1 should i go for ? Gigabyte gaming oc or asus dual ?? Both coming on same price in my area

[@TheoSan.]

​@@lkline000did you got the answer? which one are you going for ?

[@lkline000]

@@TheoSan. going for the gigabyte gaming gaming oc

[@zpausdertube]

...seems like MSI made changes to some 4000 series cards and calls them "E" or "Essential" (some Changes to the HDMI, DP, but also structural). On some pics it looks, like the" MSI GeForce RTX 4070 VENTUS 3X E 12G OC" got now a metal cooler attached to the VRM, which was uncooled before. Can you check / confirm this?

[@AquilaeYT]

Nice point !

[@oraz9878]

Thank you very much! I am upgrading from using a “gaming laptop” for 2 years. I would’ve waited for the 5000 series to drop for better prices, but ultimately have to get a 4070. Was initially going to get a 6950 xt, but the power bill where i live is significant.

[@krishnas3473]

4070 is very overpriced, u could buy a used card and wait for it to drop

[@Aphorism89]

AMD GPUs are more expensive than Nvidia because: You will likely need a new, beefy PSU and you will slowly pay more in your electric bill too. So sure, Nvidia are more expensive as a product, but you are likely able to keep your current PSU plus their power consumption is better than previous generations. People just don´t see past the initial price... which sure is nuts, but there´s more into it than just that.

[@hua..]

​@@krishnas3473crazy logic, just get the 4070 and chill for half a decade lol

[@krishnas3473]

@@hua.. u can get an 3080 for half the price then upgrade with 100$ to that in a year or two lol

[@TotoyMolangMarikina]

@@krishnas3473 2nd hand 3080? hahaha i will not risk my money in 2nd rtx power hungry 3080🤣🤣

[@Crackalacking_Z]

I picked up the Gigabyte Eagle OC, it offers copper heatpipes compared to the Windforce, it's a very stocky and rigid card, weight is 800gr, no coil whine, dual bios offers silent and performance, but it's just a fan curve, performance just runs the fan at 1900 rpm under load, silent at lower rpm, performance plus MSI Afterburner custom fan curve is the way to go, 1500 rpm is enough to keep the GPU at 65C, hotspot 72C, (stock voltage, summer ambient temp of 30C), the GPU is already efficient, but even allows nice undervolting, stock is 200W/65C/2700GHz/1060mV, with a custom voltage curve capping at 925mV for max boost it's only 140W/55C.

[@reepar7465]

I buy same card and for gaming is excellent choice.Really I don’t care for rmp fan,when is not used for 100% fan stop…

[@AquilaeYT]

Why the Eagle is better than the Eagle ? I have the TUF and it seems that the TUF literally destroy all 4070 with a 8 pin connector. Almost no coil whine, almost ultra quiet and mostly...i can have 3100mhz which is insane for 1% low with a 360hz monitor. But this is not the best in terms of visual...

[@platyhelminthes2877]

How are the fans on the eagle? Are they ball bearing or sleeve? I'm getting the Gaming OC model with sleeve bearings, which is a bit concerning, but I suspect that opinions about the poor longevity of sleeve bearings might be a bit exaggerated. For this reason I'm still sort of torn between the gaming OC and the ASUS dual OC, or the Nvidia FE. If I get the gaming OC, I will be mounting it vertically, which supposedly helps to preserve sleeve bearings.

[@misterhoudi2824]

I couldn’t sleep until I find a good brand for the RTX 4070 I’m gonna buy, thankfully I stumbled upon your channel, and it is a breeze to look into, I never regret watching every single second of it. Unbiased, informative, and yet remarkable performance. S tier. For subscribe!

[@OTechnology]

Welcome aboard! Always appreciate the kind words, thank you.

[@JoeMannDesigns]

which one did you end up going with in the end?

[@Chrisp707-]

@@OTechnologyI ended up going with the PNY for a sale of $550 so we’ll see how it goes.

[@Sattam_oD]

so, how is it ? i'm planning to get it as i'm kinda forced to@@Chrisp707-

[@min295]

​@@Chrisp707-how's it going?

[@prxzmsAU]

Its good to see how much better gigabyte has gotten with their vrms and power limits, with the 30 series they always had mid range power limits.

[@fullsend_ny7948]

lmao gigabyte is second only to asus as the most predatory and worst customer service so kindly stfu just cuz your a fanboy

[@jjimapro9756]

Gigabyte has cracking boards in the 30 and 40 series so I’d avoid them all together

[@prxzmsAU]

@@jjimapro9756 yeah i have a 30 series card from them, and it sags a ton. but i got a support bracket so i dont think its an issue if u have one of those

[@rangelebert3049]

That is a fantastic job researching cooling performance, helped me a lot since a appreciate silent and low temp cards. Thanks

[@dinu.p]

Thanks!

[@OTechnology]

You're welcome! Thank you as well!

[@Modest_Player]

power limits are a bit useless in the case of 4070. It's impossible to exceed 230/240W. Not even if you immensely OC the gpu (besides being pointless from an fps perspective....little to zero increase at 2k). Plus, the major advantage of the 4070 is its low consuption.

[@AquilaeYT]

I have both Asus Dual 4070 and Asus TUF 4070. I've make a lot of test about noise, hotspot temperature, memory temperature and OC capacity. The TUF and the Dual have the same OC capacity but the final Frequency differs, the Dual have 2700~mhz at stock in performance bios while the Asus TUF can go above 2900 easily with the performance bios, it's insane and you can go above 3100mhz with an overclock and have HUGE differences in 1% low and smoothness on a 360hz monitor. I've seen zero difference at 4K, at 1440p you can feel a difference sometimes and for 1080p at 240hz/360hz the difference is huge. Also the Dual have a lot of coil whine while the TUF is quieter even for the fan noise, same result. The Dual that i have cost 650 and the TUF 710, i prefer to put 710 on the TUF and i will resend the Dual.

[@ivanlagrossemoule]

Precisely why I got it. I got a 5700 XT with fans that just kept going full speed, it was absolutely insufferable to the point where I just downclocked and underpowered it to actually enjoy games. Then it died. It wasn't a low end card of that model either. With the 4070 I even get one less connector on the PSU which allows me to fit a fan down there for even better airflow. I honestly don't care about the 10% extra framerate or whatever I could've had with other cards, I just want the fans to shut the fuck up.

[@RY3ER_]

@ALPAQL Just got a Dual with a slight undervolt 920mv+1500mhz on memory overclock, dead silent, 39c at idle (no fans) - 47c at full load@30% fan speed (non-existant sound), luckily I have ZERO coil whine or anything else sound-wise for that matter. Extremely well built, not heavy too - also, I peeked inside the backplate, it does have thermal pads inbetween PCB and backplate which is good. Memory temp goes only to 60c on mine since hotspot is barely 57... Price to performance is unbeatable on the dual. P.S - Mind you I'm running these parts inside a Lian Li 216 case (excellent cooling) 2 bottom intake fans, 2 exhaust on top as additionals.

[@AZTECPLATOO]

Im very confused, whats the difference between asus dual oc p and oc q? Google doesnt shown anything and i preffer the cooler one

[@HimanshuSharmazzzz]

Its has dual Bios (quite and performance), so both are same card but set to diffrent bios

[@RistoKappet]

What a huge difference in power limits, thank you as always for these videos, always my go-to instead of mainstream "reviews"

[@iikatinggangsengii2471]

really wish madvr devs have same capabilities, but jrivers been great, but not same quality

[@iikatinggangsengii2471]

but it cant play music and videos simultaneously

[@nerooweb]

But where would you guys rank the ASUS ProArt? Especially when it comes to cooling

[@Booth73]

Idk i gotta say i have the zotac twin edge 4070 and that thing even while overclocked is super silent and ive yet to see it above like 72 degrees. Ive been fairly happy with it so far.

[@jmangames5562]

This list is very subjective as he didn't have these cards to test just gathered info. I have the windforce OC and Asus tuf gaming and the windforce is silent and stays under 70c at full load. My 100 dollar more expensive Asus tough looks cool but is louder and runs hotter and does not provide more performance over the windforce. And most buy a 4070 for it's performance without the big power draw so why would you want to push it to 235 or more just use Dlss! Buy the cheaper 3rd part GPU's you will be happy with them.

[@81mrsmitty]

Well crap i picked up a msi ventus 2x OC a couple weeks ago. It was signfiicantly cheaper then all other 4070 cards I could find. It had a metal backplate though? Maybe updated version? I haven't had any problems with temps or anything either.

[@welcome2mytruth]

Same. temps are very low playing New World for example. So pretty happy with it, given the price too.

[@Gedoruh]

same here, I think the whole temp thing is really blown out of proportion

[@nutz9203]

I have a 4070 ventus 3x oc and run msi afterburner and sync all three fans to always run the same speed at the same time. Temps always stay below 60°c, I have geforce experience and use the oc autotuning for mild oc and I have no problems with temps....

[@derbigpr500]

@@Gedoruh Depends when you bought it since MSI updates the design after initial complaints. But even then it was overblown as the hot spots were hitting less than 90 degrees, while the operating temp of VRM's is something like 130 degrees...so...

[@1SaG]

Got the GB Gaming OC a couple of days ago and that insane power-limit seems a bit, well, pointless. At least for me since I don't plan on modding the card - and I wouldn't even know where to begin with that, anyway.. :) I managed a simple +125 MHz OC on the GPU and set 1000+ on VRAM. I put the power-limit up to 120 and then 130 percent, but the card never drew more than 235W or so. It does run into the voltage limiter all the time though. I also let Afterburner come up with an Auto OC curve which pretty much gave me the same results as my quick and dirty manual OC. Both run stable and gave me "excellent" results in TimeSpy. The cooler seems indeed very capable. Hotspot temps reached very low 80s while benchmarking, but GPU and VRAM remain exceptionally cool, even when OCed. Like... mid 50s on the VRAM.

[@davidborovsky2877]

@@Souscheff you can EASILY overclock a factory OC card as they are not pushed to their limits within reasonable PL.

[@platyhelminthes2877]

So you like the card, overall? Do you think that a 650w PSU would be enough to handle this card at it's stock OC settings? Also, what's your opinion on the sleeve bearings in the fans?

[@1SaG]

@@platyhelminthes2877 Sorry for the late answer. Yes: I really like the card and I would happily buy another of their Gaming/OC models when I upgrade. The card hasn't missed a beat for me and I've never ran it at default settings other than for benchmarking/comparison purposes. Furmark stress test (1080p) will push Hotspot temps to low 80s with my OC (PL to 130% resulting in ~240W draw), but the default fan curve won't spin up the fans to more than 70 to 75% at these temps. Manually setting the fans to 100% will keep Hotspot temps well below 80°C. I can't really tell if 650W would be enough - I upgraded from a 550W PSU to a bequiet! ATX 3.0 750W to be on the safe side WRT power and also to get the 12VHPWR connection (so I wouldn't have to use a bulky adapter to run this card). However: Especially if you leave power limits on stock, I don't see why a 550W wouldn't be able to pull it off. It's what Nvidia and GB recommend for this card, but also: I ran a GB 3070 Eagle trouble-free before the 4070 on my 550W PSU and that card has a TDP of 220W (vs the 4070's 200W). Also: While I found/find it a bit unnerving that GB don't include a GPU-stand with this one (but they do/did on the the slightly larger 4070 Ti Gaming), I can't say I've encountered any sag with this card.

[@marcelowcr]

Any possibility to add the Galax 1-click OC 2x? (dual)

[@marvz67]

I just returned the 4070 msi ventus 3x due to extreme coil whine and after finding out about the VRM issues. I can get the 4070 gigabyte gaming oc for €667( 20 more than I bought the msi ventus for) and according to some forums, gigabyte gaming is in general better odds of having less/no coil whine. But I also see a sale this week: from €909 --> €819 for the gigabyte 4070 ti windforce. Do you guys think this is worth the extra €€ and the fact that it is windforce not gaming oc?

[@poorNOOB]

For me, that 152€ difference between 4070 and 4070ti is still quite large. But in case of the scenario where you don't have any immediate use case for that money, I would go with 4070ti, as 4070 performs like 3080 10g, while 4070ti resides close to 3090/3090ti level, and those 20-25% different in performance is kinda noticeable.

[@Andytlp]

@@Souscheff Coil whine depends more on your houses electrical wiring, how old it is, how clean the power is and quality or crap psu. Quality psu might smooth out the dirty power but even they have limits.

[@platyhelminthes2877]

​@@AndytlpA good quality UPS could help with this, could it not?

[@patricklebeau6539]

Thanks a lot for this extensive research and overview. My Gigabyte RTX 2070 Windforce is still doing a good job after more than 4 and 1/2 years but I'm planning to get a new - 1440p instead of HD - screen. And as I've a 620 Watt PSU, the 4070 seems the way to go. I was thinking Gigabyte Windforce again. But clearly the Asus Dual/Dual OC is a match + quieter AND it's the cheapest 4070 over here! Thanks again.

[@tove25]

Hey, have you bought the Asus Dual OC? How is it?

[@patricklebeau6539]

Hello @@tove25 . Sadly no. My gaming chair passed out =) so a decent replacement was the priority. I took a Corsair T3 Rush and I'm very happy with it. Also I finally binned my ageless and creaking speakers with Creative Pebble Pro's. The prices of the 4070s are going down over here but my cash is low. My mind is still set on the Asus. I put price alerts for it a bit everywhere 😆

[@ghoste5776]

I also have the Corsair T3 Rush, grey and white, very comfortable chair, and I'm planning on building a PC with a 4070, was thinking of going with the Gaming X Trio but now I can't decide between that one or the Gigabyte Gaming OC

[@patricklebeau6539]

Hi @@ghoste5776. I've got the grey/black T3. It's great not to sweat in leatherette anymore, isn't it? So far, I've always used MSI or Gigabyte components. As far as I could see Gigabyte's cheapest "gaming" branded MBs or GCs are just basic models with added cosmetic features (colours, RGB) and I never went for such. Personally I'd go for the Gaming X Trio or possibly the Asus Rog Strix (actually the ASUS is just 1 quid more at my usual dealer). I suppose you intend to overclock your card, else there is not much benefit over the Dual for the asked price difference.

[@ghoste5776]

@@patricklebeau6539 Hey bro, that’s the color I wanted to be honest 🥲 but in my country (Mexico) it was like $50 US extra so I settled with the grey/white version, just have issues with the white parts being so easy to stain, and it’s also my first gaming chair, before that one I used a plastic chair so my back really appreciated the change, but I do agree that you don’t sweat with this chair at all, overall definitely would recommend it. About the graphics card, I do agree with you, overall I like the aesthetics of the Gaming Trio and it comes with a little bit more OC from the box than the GB one, so I think I’ll go for that one, one last question though (sorry), do you think an i5 13400 would bottleneck it at 1440p or is it good enough?

[@angurishudesu]

Me sitting here watching the whole video with my Ventus 3x: 🗿

[@Berkelll]

Did you also applied that card holder? I wonder to buy this version if 4070 Super, but that holder is kinda different than others and bug using a card things in the case too.

[@angurishudesu]

@@Berkelll Nah bro my ventus 3x is just raw dogging in the case without any support, I personally dont think it requires a card holder since theres virtually no sag for me

[@TheStew]

Feeling great about my blind Gigabyte Gaming OC pickup yesterday.

[@SplitX26]

So 4070 MSI Ventus 2X is cool with a watercooling ?

[@niccio96]

Before buying any cards I’m always here, behind your video, which are the best informative in the whole internet as buying a graphic card. Sometime I even watch it for fun to see which one of a model is better than other. Like in this case. Thank you for your hard work. Is greatly appreciated

[@dutyofcall7659]

What's about the KFA2 GeForce RTX 4070 Super EX GAMER 1-Click OC? Got it for under 600€.

[@Zaefnyr]

pls do this for the 4070 super whenever/if possible

[@JustCarnivorousCupcake]

Very informative video and so detailed! Question though; any idea where the Asus ProArt version lands?

[@moeabdo3114]

What about 4070 Super ? Im about to buy one but dont know your recommdation

[@MrSuupar]

I just bought a MSI Ventus 2X OC because if was by far the cheapest 4070 and I thought MSI couldn't be that bad.... Now I returned it and got a Palit GamingPro for just a little more... Thank you for the warning

[@Dmxravin]

Palit Gamingpro can actually increase power limit to 107% so max power is actually 214-215 watt for that one. (I’m using the non OC) version.

[@froximussx4093]

I did indeed feel good about my 4070 purchase! Found one for 550$ and... Its the MSI X Trio! Cant wait to use it at a bit of an overclock as you mentioned!

[@Samukr.]

How did you find MSI Trio for this price ? Used ?

[@froximussx4093]

@@Samukr. Long story short, some dude won it from a YT raffle, couldn't use it and sold it for money. The buyer (person i got it from) was planning to upgrade but changed his mind and wanted to go pure AMD instead. His 3080 however died due to poor quality connectors and used it for about 3 days so hes system could post. Then i saw the post on my local equivalent of eBay and simply had to get it for such a price. I'd say for such a new gpu mine alr has a lot of history to it 😁

[@bobisadrummer]

MSI's Ventus 3x has a new "E" version and the only thing their specs and info say that's different is the E version weights 834g while the older version weights 811g. I wonder if they put some thermal pads under those vrms and changes the backplate to a metal one.

[@OTechnology]

Possibly. From what I can see in their photos there's a new addition to the heatsink around the VRM area, but no one can be sure until someone gets one and disassembles it.

[@rick330]

thats cool who sells the "E" version and how do i know which one it is?

[@Andytlp]

@@rick330 Well on e shops it has E in the name. Idk if it's actually on the box or not. I bought ventus 3x and wondering too. I'll just see if mosfet vrm is bare or not if it is idgaf got a steal of a deal. Besides will sell it for when next gen cards arrives, so theres no way it'll die in just a year and then some.

[@XMG3]

for me, it feels like the power limit isn't as big of an issue because I undervolt / overclock anyway. So I'm usually running 30W-40W less power than spec at the boosted OC clock. Ofcourse the higher the better and less chance of triggering power limit, but its not that big a deal. Keep up the great work, if possible, can you please do AIB comparison for the new SUPER series that was recently released ?

[@greatjob7113]

Was considering the Ventus until you saved me! Thanks!

[@rick330]

i bet 99 percent of people that buy the ventus think its just a great 4070 card and it probably is fine.

[@Hu55a1n]

is Zotac twin edge oc really that bad, cause was thinking about one as its the cheapest in my area/country.

[@thianim]

Hey man, it's been some time but I do hope you answer. Did you get the zotac twin Edge? How does it feel? It's also the cheapest option on my region, and the alternatives are way more expensive right now (almost 100usd)

[@AngelofKaos]

This video helped me decide between the Gigabyte Eagle OC and Gaming OC, once I am able to test their performance I'll let you know how glad I am that you guided me on the right direction (or not!) Just hoping the coil whine isn't an actual issue and that I can put up with it 🙏

[@ThiagoJaqueta]

Absolute madlad, I was considering getting the Ventus in the future because it's usually the cheapest model here in my region... Now I know why it's so cheap lol. Thanks.

[@OTechnology]

Glad to help haha

[@swiroman6000]

​@@OTechnology can You bro tell me that inno3d x3 4070 will be real good card? Good noise and good for oc?

[@pierpaolosalerno5713]

BEST ECONOMY 4070 SUPER? WHIT GOOG PHASE END COOLER?

[@tomasbohunek9698]

Hey! This guide is great and helped me to choose the MSI 4070 Gaming X Trio a year ago. I can't complain about this card one bit. But.. Have you looked at 4070 Super yet? I can't find any useful comparison between the X Trio and X SLIM and I suspect SLIM should be warmer.

[@ExitOnTheInside]

once you've decided on the correct GPU for yourself - videos like this a fundamental - i see why the cheaper variants on mazon are in your f-tier , costs climb as you climb your list (i'm going for 3rd list) Thanks for help - Close to MSi Ventus until i saw this

[@kalleeklund2]

Do you have any data on the Gigabyte GeForce RTX 4070 12GB Windforce X2 OC. It sems to be a 2 fan variant of the Windforce OC.

[@sethra3250]

but does the super ventus 2x oc solve the cooling issue?, or is the issue still there?

[@Auraformmusic]

Thank you very much for this video. Im makina basket for the Black Friday in order to build a new PC and i was about to get the msi ventus x3 … while the gigabytes gaming is at the same price !! Thank you again for your work you probably saved me from some trouble! ❤

[@acratone8300]

I made a nifty cigarette lighter by holding a piece of baling wire to the Ventus housing until it glows red.

[@f1ying_monkey]

LOL 😆

[@ymiround]

Wow thank you. The cheapest I can get a Palit Dual version but I've heard their fan's make wierd unpleasant sound even on 30% and there can be coil whine (I know it can be everywhere). Can you confirm someone confirm that on your model? I almost ready to pay extra to get jetstream version

[@daltonmarchand2755]

what about the ZOTAC Gaming GeForce RTX 4070 Twin Edge OC White Edition

[@Dniv55]

I think you made a mistake, your avarage temperature and noise delta for cowcotland doesn't match with data, it looks like it is added but not divided. I bought inno3D 2x based on this data and now I will return it and buy pny xlr8

[@Ar7hurL3173]

Which the difference between asus dual oc Q and P? Which means these P n Q at the end?

[@natel7382]

Where's the 4070S video? I'm trying to figure out which one to get, I bought an ASUS Dual OC but it BSOD and wouldn't stop turning off my max fps after every restart. I was leaning toward MSI since my mobo is that but heard about VRM cooling issues. Then was thinking about gigabyte but heard the fans make weird noises if not set to 50%. Lol I really don't like FE as everyone I've had was not good and they are the only cards I've ever had with Coil Whine. Idk what to get. I really want to get it in person from Best Buy because I am going through a nightmare right now with Amazon and shipping my Asus 4070 back. I dropped it off 2 weeks ago, it keeps going from east coast to IN, then back and forth. The box was pretty damaged when I received it. But that also limits it as the only MSI 4070S BB has is the ventus, and the gigabyte gaming OC, same price for both. Any help/direction would be amazing. I just found this channel but instant sub with the work you do. I have been trying to find this type of info for the 4070S but it's usually a very limited test group.

[@firedrapeon6012]

Are you going to make a video for the 4060/ti cards, on which to buy? I know that they aren't the most popular cards in the range but, so is the 4080 and you made a video for that model.

[@Kraxt0n]

i know this is old now, but do you know if you had V1/V2 tier cards etc? gigabyte makes loads of different versions and its hard to even tell without looking close. i own the GV-N407TGAMING OC-12GD V1 card which its pretty cool, and dose the job well. 4070ti for those unaware. supposedly the V2 has a copper plate instead. but, i cant find the info im looking for as to if that is true or not. either way, if you do more of these keep that in mind. ADD what version of card your reviewing to the list.

[@KAL-589]

Where's the XTX video? I thought that was next?

[@edit11]

dude super educational thanks mate!

[@OTechnology]

You're welcome!

[@elbewatching9558]

Hi! I really appreciate your work. It’s just that I’m in a bit of a hurry to grab a 4060 Ti and can’t seem to find enough info online to decide between the Asus Dual OC, the MSI Ventus 2X black OC and the Zotac Twin edge.

[@raymondhachmishvili2483]

Go with Asus Dual

[@iikatinggangsengii2471]

if it hasnt done it hasnt

[@keksekonrad]

Pls make a 4070 super part now aswell

[@noc44]

Hi, thanks for the super informative video. One question tho, are you planning to make one for 4060 and/or 4060 Ti too?

[@Choom89]

Thanks for this insight! While I would have preferred to wait for the 50 series, circumstances were such that it was time to purchase a card.

[@OTechnology]

You're welcome! Also, at least this isn't as bad as during the mining boom.

[@bookbinder66]

@@OTechnology and a AI boom

[@swiroman6000]

@@OTechnology Bro i need fast help! Inno3D X3(normal) wuld be better then asus dual?

[@EssehNC]

me too.. circumstance being Starfield. LOL i dont think my 1660ti can handle it

[@lkline000]

how to indentify asus dual oc p vs asus dual oc q. all of the retailers in my area box says asus dual OC. also u didnt mention the memory hotspot of gigabyte gaming oc

[@anttikirsi5329]

P means Performance bios and Q Quiet bios. You have a toggle switch on your Asus Dual OC card, so you can choose either one. I use P , because it is really silent already with that. I have a white one with zero coil whine. Easy to recommend 5/5.

[@lkline000]

@@anttikirsi5329 i am confused between gigabyte gaming oc and asual dual. Both seems to have great temps and reasonably silent card. And both of them are available on msrp at my area

[@anttikirsi5329]

@@lkline000 I did not even consider Gigabyte because of 16pin connector, overkill and i don’t personally want it. Gigabyte also having cracked pcb problem and bad warranty. Also in my country Gigabyte is more expensive. These are just my personal opinnions, you might prefer other features like RGB or 3 fans that Gigabyte Gaming OC has. I also like short card (Asus 3cm shorter) that does not sag or need a support bracket.

[@lkline000]

@@anttikirsi5329 in my country prices of both the card are same and I dont care for rgb. I wanted to go with gigabyte just because of 3fans and better temps. Also gigabyte's along with asus tuf and msi gaming z has default power limit as 230.

[@lkline000]

@@anttikirsi5329 what are your idle and load temps ??? And what is ur ambient temperature??

[@void_guy_yt]

Zotac RTX 4070 Super Twin edge OC VS Gigabyte 4070 super Windforce OC... Which would you recommend?

[@LookThroughMyEyes00]

I know this was an old video sir, and i hope you still actively reply to this. I was wondering if you could advice me.. so i wanted to upgrade my old PC and have been looking for a good RTX 4070 card and after watching your videos i have narrowed my option for Gygabyte Gaming OC or Asus Dual. My question is how do you think both cards would endure better for a long run because it will probably be another 3-4 years hard earned saving before i could make another upgrade. Also which card do you suggest in terms of performance and cooling system, obviously both are different design one is 3 fan other 2 fan but because im also on a limited budget (i just really wanted to spend it wisely and buy the very best within my fund limit) do you think for a dual fan card Asus live up to Gygabyte performance, cooling and longevity sir? I hope you reply i would appreciate it because you’ll help me decide my mind, best regards sir

[@Steinhagan45]

The reason you never got a response is because nobody here is a fortune teller. If you really are worried about having the card for a while buy higher end brands and pray you don’t get a melted 16 pin connector down the road or just buy one of the lower powered 4070s that still use the 8 pin and cut that particular risk out all together. Nobody knows how each of these cards will hold up in three years because the silicon lottery is alive and well, especially with these 16 pin models.

[@martinutasi7857]

I'm trying to choose between 2 model. You here made a comparison video about 46, FOURTY SIX FREAKING models and the Asus Dial OC is here, but not the the MSI Gaming X Slim😂 How unlucky I am😅

[@one6483]

12:16 Is the maximum fan speed only at 1300 rpm? In general, even on cheap 4060 series graphics cards, when set at 60% fan speed, it can run 1600 rpm

[@slooomy95]

Thank you so much I went with 4070 AORUS Master 🙏💕

[@PovOfGaming]

Is it good as per the tier list?

[@slooomy95]

@@PovOfGaming yes brother

[@jeremykim8183]

Can you help me? I need help seeing if GeForce RTX™ 4070 WINDFORCE 2X OC 12G can be switched with a different shroud. I need to make it slot width 2

[@АлександрПолянский-ь1т]

We need same videos on 4070 super and other new nvidia cards! Thanks, keep doing what you doing!

[@LaFPholytrinity]

What about Kfa Version?

[@kevinstarlike]

Fantastic video! This is such a useful resource. Kudos for pointing out where your methodology is flawed due to missing data

[@PerriMitchell]

Thank you for this video! Made me feel good about my decision haha

[@kruzty_]

will this tier list be the same for the 4070s?

[@銀河光芒]

ranking of the 4070super dual fan model. very good: asus dual, inno3d, winfast good: asus dual evo, fe ordinary: palit, msi bad: galax, zotac worst: pny The worst of the worst: gainward My opinion on the dual fans. Cooling performance. PNY and Gainward are the worst, reaching 80°C under full load in a room with a temperature of 25°C. Gainward approaches 82°C. My pny actually got to 80℃ in a case with good airflow. All of the triple fan models are excellent except for the Gigabyte WF, although the Eagle is a bit worse. The Palit JS is excellent in terms of cost performance. It has a power of 245W and is extremely cold.

[@銀河光芒]

MSI learned from their failure with the 4070 and improved the 4070SUPER to decent quality. PNY and GAINWARD continued to sell inferior 4070S. PNY has some excellent products, but VERTO's dual fan is the worst, and the triple fan doesn't cool very well.　Only PURPLE and 4080 are great. Gainward Phoenix is ​​a superior product. he important thing is that even within the same manufacturer, there is a mixture of masterpieces and shoddy trash.

[@KakyoinDonut1]

Guys i wanted to buy the asus dual oc in withe at first but now i don’t know if i want to buy the aero oc since it’s way better in general and i like the aesthetic but does it worth the extra 80-100€ ?? (I have a withe build)

[@messitv16]

Colorful rtx 4070 Ultra has two version the new one V2-V has a beefy 6 heatpipe cooler which can occupy 3 slot, I just want to know which version did you get?

[@fratvurur3683]

Which 4070 is best with dual fan?

[@銀河光芒]

For the 4070super, ASUS, INNO3D, and winfast are equipped with many heat pipes and cool very well. Even for the 4070, I don't think you'll go wrong if you choose one of these manufacturers. Sorry I'm tired today and can't actually check it out. If you look at the manufacturer's website, you can see the general structure. Buy a model with a thick heat sink and many heat pipes.

[@williamchowsers8102]

Most comprehensive video on KZbin thanks mate

[@trolle1089]

How is the temperature and Noises on MSI RTX 3070 Super OC 2x Ventus?

[@alivesurvive471]

Wow, it surprised me that MSI Ventus is so bad optimized. Still searching for a good deal and I will keep your comparision in mind. Thank you! :)

[@sinisterwastaken2729]

are u sure the gigabyte gpus are okay for long term uses i heard some of them are cracking

[@魏晓鹏-m6p]

i dont quite understand whats the difference between Asus dual p and q. Are they two different models?

[@魏晓鹏-m6p]

oh i see. not two different models, just different bios

[@OTechnology]

Yes the P is for the Performance BIOS and Q for the Quiet BIOS

[@swiroman6000]

​@@OTechnologybro i need help im ab go palit jetstream or pny xlr8 or Inno3D 3x, what one too go?

[@viperaiion]

is there a list which of these have sleeve and which ball fan bearings?

[@S_I_a_y_e_r]

Im thinking of asus dual since it is cheapest on my market and been using asus mostly tuf and strix for the pas decade. But this seems to be the most budget friendly option i hope i won't make mistake. (I would not oc it.)

[@Giygasthekillermain]

whats your thoughts on the pro art 4070 card?

[@RotNcroch]

I love my mid ventus 3x oc. I’ve put another 50mhz over clock on top of the factory oc and so far it hasn’t been over 58c. It’s a good overall card

[@swiroman6000]

It is rly bas card, nemory are burn as hell

[@user-j9ki7r]

@@rick330 why is it important? did u understand what he was meaning? thats the most important thing right?

[@willy7968]

is it quiet ? I ordered this same model, ventus 3X OC edition

[@RotNcroch]

@@willy7968 mine is silent as can be and it’s never been over 64c. I put another 200 mhz on the gpu also. I’m not big into overclocking so 200 is good for me!

[@Fabnanaable]

I cant find the KFA2 Geforce RTX4070 2x 1 click OC 12gb how about this one? im not really into these but cant find anything about this card

[@beyourahi]

my budget is super tight, should I go for the MSI 4070 VENTUS 2X E?

[@Arkadietza]

So what's the short answer? Which card worth it? Best value, best build components and of course good scores?

[@cosmic_conqu3rror415]

Hi where is the MSI GAMING X SLIM WHITE edition in this list ? I mean how good and bad ?

[@JonMartin84]

I appreciate this information I just upgraded to a 4070ti and it already failed.. It was the F tier design so that explains it.

[@DerHouy]

So what about an MSI 3080 Suprim X 12 GB vs an 4070 Gigabyte Windforce? If you have the MSI 3080, would you switch to the 4070?

[@niranjanbhosale5101]

Its my first time building a PC and I am worried if the parts that I select will work in harmony or not. Can you please tell if I can combine this (Zotac/ MSI gaming X Trio/ Colorful neptune oc-v) with Intel i5 14500 and MSI B760 gaming plus wifi motherboard or even Gigabyte aero OC

[@Wickedroonz]

Got a windforce with the Alan wake 2 bundle. Super happy with it.

[@-MertArda]

hey bud whats up after a month? what about heat, noise and any coilwhine?

[@DeJanks]

YES you did, I'm trying to build a full white pc but I wanted to go with the Asus Tuf 4070 card, looking around in my friend's shop I saw he had the Gigabyte Aero 4070 and it looked cool + its white ! but my friend told me to stick with Asus Tuf bcoz he said its better in cooling, now I know it's almost identical to the Asus Tuf yet its white, which will make my pc WAY better looking, I wouldn't even mind if its like slitely worse bcoz it'll look WAY better if it's a white GPU instead of a black one in the middle of a full white pc, thank you so much man this video is so great and hits exactly what I wanted to know and understand, ggs brother.

[@aaronramsey9858]

Could I get the rest of your specs? I'm trying to create a white build for a friend without ever having built a PC myself.

[@Nerathim]

why is the gainward ghost that low? I've looked at a few reviews about that specific cards and they all said it was a perfectly fine custom, should be at least C tier

[@RR-td5qg]

I dodge a bullet on MSI, that was my first choice, until i saw some good review on ASUS DUAL. Thanks!

[@HamzaARTi]

i wanna know where do u rank tha asus proart 4070 i wanna buy one but i have another offer same price from aorus master 4070 and now i am confused lol

[@PlayerPro119]

hi need help. Is the zotac twin edge oc good enough for a 4070 card in terms of performance? The positive side is they have longer warranty of 5 years compared to other cards.

[@VedanshPareek-fu3fg]

Is it im looking ti get that one , what do u say

[@xellostube]

Can anybody tell me if the MSI 4070 super ventus 3x has the same issues than the not "super" version?

[@jorgelucascouto]

Why the "Gigabyte Aero OC and Gaming OC" have a top tier list but in all reviews these cards perform worse than "Asus TUF" and "MSI Gaming Trio"?