Which RTX 4090 to BUY and AVOID?! | 35 Cards Compared! Asus, MSI, Galax, Gigabyte, PNY, Palit, Etc.

[@HoangDucNuyen]

I thought Galax 4090 SG has 18 phases x50A NCP302150 (900A).

[@OTechnology]

Ah crap you're right. Doesn't really change where it is in the tier list though, difference of 90A is not much.

[@RaeLN1]

18x50A NCP302150 4x50A NCP302150 ~900W VRM would still be in the A tier list, ​ @O!Technology did a great job!

[@RaeLN1]

BTW, Galax offers a 3 year warranty here in Brazil, inside my country they would prolly be in S tier because of that, I'd like to know what Galax/KFA2 offers in other countries, where do you live and what they offer to u guys? @O!Technology @Nguyên Hoang

[@HoangDucNuyen]

@Israel Davi Rios Filho - all new GPUs of all brands offer the same 3 years warranty in my country (Vietnam).

[@OTechnology]

@@RaeLN1 Just wanted to correct its 900A not 900W. Thanks!

[@sempiro3133]

Thank you for the effort, these looks like simple graphs, but I am more than sure it took quite some time to gather the data together and finalize it into the ratings. Super helpful and awesome job!👍

[@teeicafe]

not sure why im watching this, i cant even afford this

[@simulationstimulation961]

Hahahha same here

[@OTechnology]

In a year or two it’ll be much more affordable at least lol

[@user-wq9mw2xz3j]

@@OTechnology well a 3090 isnt today... cant know, I actually doubt so

[@bumperxx1]

U can your just holding yourself back

[@juic3thetitan]

🤣🤣🤣

[@voneinzbern211]

You have no idea HOW I wanted to see this theme review from YOU! Thanks!

[@OTechnology]

Haha thanks. Sorry for taking a while.

[@Salty_der_Regenmacher]

I'm really glad these cards are so massive, the silence and low temps are worth the chunkiness

[@JCTiggs1]

In my region the 4090 FE is the lowest priced 4090 compared to any other brand. Considering the smaller form factor and how well it's designed and built, I think it's the best 4090 for the money. The hard part is finding it in stock!

[@EJM07]

it's almost as if they don't want to have third parties anymore...

[@Cless_Aurion]

Same for me back in december in Spain. It was SO HARD to get one, but it was literally like 300 to 400 Euro cheaper

[@robinspanier7017]

would be happy to see the third party go. its just annoying tbh

[@themog4911]

It's was in stock at the Nvidia uk store, I got one yesterday 👍

[@pe3oxide]

​@@themog4911Is the 4090 fe Quiet by gaming and how much are the temps i wanna build a 4090 Build but im so confused they so many 4090's

[@ousiosaeturn3559]

Keep in mind alot of these cards have coil whine noise the ones that seem to not have this problem are the gigabyte cards

[@belluxxx2501]

Gygabite card have pcb fragility problem.. i prefer coil wine😅

[@corpalgt6261]

The aorus 4090 from gigabyte are probably the most quiet i've owned but i would probably vertically mount or buy an anti-sag bracket because of their recent bad track record, or even avoid them altogether for now.

[@ousiosaeturn3559]

@corpalgt6261 no manufacturer will rma a cracked pcb most of those are user error but to each their own I recommend using an anti sag bracket for all 4090's if not an anti sag gpu stand all the cards are huge and heavy

[@Monster-Abee]

My Zotac has no coil whine but a hum when the fans turn on. It's really quiet though.

[@redclaw72666]

Msi suprim liquid X here mine doesn't 😅

[@I_Crit_My_Pants]

EDIT: I should've probably clarified, it's the AIR COOLED Suprim X, not the liquid one lol I think something missed about cards like the 4090 Suprim X is they seem to be built for durability and longevity, hence why it also won't allow you to use that full 600w and has overkill VRM. Which is why I picked it, along with all it's other pros, that's a great selling point.

[@InVersoFFVII]

Is this true? Because durability and longevity is my most important factor in choosing a 4090. Also fan noise.

[@Ohlukei]

@@InVersoFFVII the Suprim X runs 10 degrees cooler than the Gaming X maybe because the Suprim X got a vapor chamber. That should help the card to last longer. 🙂

[@kandrotas22]

@@Ohlukeix trio runs fans at 1400 rpm while the suprim x runs its fans at 2000 rpm

[@Ohlukei]

@@kandrotas22 Thanks for the info. I hope the higher rpm will not increase the fan noise by much. 👀

[@ppeez]

@@Ohlukei it runs coolet because the fans spin faster 😂 and of course they are louder, imagine buying a card and not even knowing this

[@Nienormalny]

Two questions for those who know better than me: 1. 2:05 Does having a powerfull VRM really has an advantage while undervolting? 2. Just wondering if those unpopulated phases on lower tier cards can be… populated? Seems like and easy soldering work 🤔

[@MrSpinkser]

1. No, 2. No. Also something that is completely neglected is the diminishing returns beyond 400W. At some point you only produce heat and very few fps.

[@Nienormalny]

Fortunately i’m not interested in OC in any way. Lowering temps and power drain is my only concern. Thanks for replay!

[@charlesjag3407]

Wow, very impressive video! Great job highlighting important differences 👍

[@Zedman3333]

wow, what a massive effort, thank you making a purchase more easier to understand.

[@BeatmasterAC]

I got a palit 4090 gamerock oc and its pretty good. Made 5 different UV profiles and the gpu operates at max efficiency. 25W power consumption on idle (dual monitors) and 146W while gaming (tested with AC Valhalla at 1440p ultra + FSR quality + Mods + Reshade). Still at 141fps throughout the entire game(fps limiter at 141), basically the gpu is sleeping at 50% to 60% usage. It,s cool, quiet and powerful. OC wise (just a test): +1500 on memory clock gives another 10 to 20 fps, depending on the game.

[@Ku5hFi3nd]

Sounds like a 4080 would have been more than enough for your needs maybe even a 4070ti. But at least you have a lot of headroom for any upcoming titles that require more power (Remnant 2, looking at you)

[@BeatmasterAC]

@@Ku5hFi3nd i wanted the headroom for Mods and Reshade. Some Reshade shaders take 8-15fps (Clarity for example).

[@Mikelica69]

If your gpu is sleeping at 60%, dont use FSR please xd disable it so it can sleep at 70% at least, so you can get a clearer image

[@Miskatonik]

One thing that should be added is COIL WHINE. For example, all ASUS cards are reported to have pretty bad coil whine noise, MSI and Zotac suffer from this as well albeit to a lower extent, while Gigabyte models are less prone to strong noise. At least this is my personal conclusion after reading a ton of reports from Reddit and other forums. So all in all, the Gigabyte Gaming OC is the best model on price/perf overall, while the Suprim X is probably the best if money is no object.

[@nguyendinh2052]

He couldn't add COIL WHINE because he didn't test them at all. And yeah coil whine is one of the most important thing to buy. 2-3% fps OC is nowhere worth annoying coilwhine.

[@OTechnology]

Yea I guess that would be good but its really difficult for me to compare when its all based on random posts on reddit or forums.

[@nguyendinh2052]

@@OTechnology There is a summary of coilwhine on hardwareluxx (can't link on youtube)

[@OTechnology]

I see. But its only for very few of the cards.

[@nguyendinh2052]

@@OTechnology They have nearly 60 cards already, you got the correct link?

[@XMG3]

I been waiting for this for months ! Thank you ! I think this can be applied down to 4080 for sure and maybe even the 4070 ti

[@OTechnology]

4080 is very similar but 4070 Ti is a bit more different. I will make videos for those shortly anyways now that this one is out.

[@XMG3]

@@OTechnology I actually think there will be many more people interested in the 4070 ti, apparently it already sold more than 3060 ti

[@OTechnology]

@@XMG3 True, might do that next instead of the 4080.

[@stonecoldt]

​@@OTechnology did u already make the 4070 ti tier list?

[@mclytesabr666]

I got a Suprim X Liquid, when it was in stock, and I can definitely say I'm happy with it. The size alone is great, because it fits nicely in a be quiet pure base 500FX, with the radiator mounted up top. I've got a native 16 pin cable for powering it, so closing the side panel is no issue.

[@renangabriel751]

I choose the Suprim liquid X too and I really liked it. The only problem for me is the coil whine.

[@johnnyboogalo4897]

Same here with my Aorus waterforce extreme.It runs cool and quiet and like you said,it fits nicely in my hyte y60 case.No bending against side panel or anything.I love it.

[@ae-gc7ck]

this card undervolts great. I run it at 0.875 volt@2300 mhz max. because I don't care about the few extra frames I could get from the 2600+ mhz stock. The result? 200-250 watt under full load, quiet, cool Nd absolutely no coil whine

[@I_Crit_My_Pants]

I got the standard Suprim X and it's great, and no coil whine. Plus never have to worry about permeation, which is why my entire setup is air cooled. Liquid cooling works great, but all liquid cooling experiences permeation after 5-6 years, at least according to Gamers Nexus, who liquid cools a lot of crap. It's like the liquid version was made for maximum performance and the non liquid version was made for maximum durability and longevity while getting as close to the liquid one as possible, I love that design philosophy tbf.

[@keylanoslokj1806]

​@@ae-gc7ckshouldn't you alter the voltage of the other components as well though? Won't this change create a problem in the system?

[@csguak]

After spending $10,000 on rtx 4090s, I returned all of them and only kept the gaming OC model. FE model coil whine was horrid and the fan had higher pitched noise. If you are obsessed with a silent monster gaming rig like me, go with the gigabyte gaming OC model. It's not completely 'silent' but everything about that card is low pitched, which makes the noise so easy to tolerate.

[@rudyg6922]

listen to this man.

[@sheepmasterrace]

when you realize 10k of 4090s is only 5 of them...

[@fawneight7108]

Don’t listen to this man, gigabyte oc has a shitty board, also coil whine

[@b.t4604]

buy MSI, gigabyte is not the b est nor premium, the reason he had low noise is probably due to fan controls.

[@LawrenceTimme]

Great round up. 👍 Loads of effort put into these videos :)

[@OTechnology]

Thank you!

[@dracer35]

I picked up a used PNY 4090 for $1400 (the seller used it shortly until he could get the MSI Suprim Liquid he wanted) and it came with a 1000w power supply that has the new 12VHWPR connector specifically for the 40 series cards. It may not be a top tier card according to this list but mine doesn't have hardly any coil whine and it does just fine for the price I paid. Also, I noticed stock it stays right around 2700 MHz using the stock Nvidia voltage setting of 1.050v which pulls right around 350w while gaming. What I did was used MSI Afterburner to undervolt and set my own custom voltage curve (ctrl+f with MSI Afterburner open) and now have it set to the same 2700 MHz but at a max 0.950v and it only pulls right around 250w while gaming. Runs cooler, quieter, more efficient and still gets the exact same performance as stock. I could flash a different vbios to it to allow a higher power limit but I don't really see a need to do so.

[@OTechnology]

For sure pretty much any of these cards are overkill and if you undervolted they'll run extremely efficient and quiet too.

[@MrTehRave]

Was that the PNY Verto Epic-X? I've found it for £1450 new and am seriously considering it.

[@dracer35]

@@MrTehRave The one I got was the base model Verto. It's been great for the past 6 months. I can't complain about the performance.

[@MrTehRave]

@@dracer35 thanks for the quick reply man. I'm upgrading from a 1660ti gaming laptop 1080p, so its gonna be a big jump haha

[@SemaphoreNewgrounds]

Wow I never thought that there is so much difference in quality in the GPU line up. There sould be a video for every generation so people know which graphics card to choose from based on this information. EDIT: oh I watched at your video list and this is exactly what you provide us with xD

[@darreno1450]

Very useful video! I had bought the Gigabyte Aorus Master as it was the only one I could get for MSRP a while back. Glad I did.

[@OTechnology]

Yea seems like a good card. I would love to test one myself since the cooler is absolutely huge lol.

[@darreno1450]

@@OTechnology Yes, the pics can be deceiving. It's a massive card that forced me to rearrange components in my case for it to fit.

[@RaibuTheRipper]

Atlast! been waiting for 4000 series! I hope the 4070 TI comes next!

[@MrMeanh]

Have a KFA2 4090 SG OC that I got at the msrp in my region, runs cool and quiet even when drawing 430W+. Have only heard coilwhine when at 600fps+ in menus in a few games. I have a 3080 Aorus Master (also a 4 slot card) that runs hotter and louder. Since I run my games mostly with a 120 fps cap, the 4090 in many games draws less power than the 3080, even when I run the 4090 with much higher settings and RT enabled at 4k. Very impressed by the 4090 so far and I really can recommend the KFA2!

[@OTechnology]

Yea the Galax/KFA2 SG cards are impressively good for not being their top end HOF card. Definitely a good 4090.

[@Serandi1987]

This is with the Galax version the best looking RTX 4090 I think! 💯 👍

[@eskwadrat]

I have 4090 HOF standard edition which puts me on 12th rank for vrmark hall of fame, squeezing 680W with gpu oc-ed to 3.06GHz running at 52C. standard stock fan, no mods.

[@kratosmuscle1163]

Any opinions on the gigabyte aero 4090, would get the gigabyte gaming oc but don't really like the good. I really do like the look of the aero so curious about temps/ noise/ coil whine and performance

[@rembaron1318]

Finally! I have waitet so long in this video Thank you really much for your work :)

[@OTechnology]

Yep sorry its really late but I hope its useful!

[@rembaron1318]

@@OTechnology definitely! Yea it's late but now it's at least available

[@kuroudo2494]

I was thinking of buying the MSI Gaming X Trio (White) because it looks the best in my opinion and didn't even know about the MSI Suprim X, which is what I want to buy now. It looks the best out of all the cards you put in the SS tier. Thank you for putting the time together to make this list!

[@0301chris1]

Any thoughts where the Gigabyte Aero might sit in the overall ranking? Thanks!

[@spongecsgo]

i would like to know also

[@profix25lo]

I am shocked by the quality of the video (positivly). This is waaaay better than the typical "Top 5" videos. Really well done.

[@GySgt_USMC_Ret.]

Great video! Thanks! I recently bought an Asus TUF 4090 oc. The i9-13900k arrived a few days ago (paid $306.00 after using points). Initially, the new system build was based on an i7-12700k/ 3080Ti. Big thanks to the wife for all her points! Now I have a potential second system build with the i7-12700k/3080Ti, just need a new ddr4 motherboard. Current system is i7-6700k/1080Ti. Fair winds and following seas to all.

[@adamschulz9719]

Man you are an absolute legend for doing this and I for one really appreciate you and this video! It helped so much and you have a new subscriber

[@luisescobar138]

Not 4090 related, but i'm happy and relief watching Galax SG OC in A tier. I have the 4080 version so it doesnt have to be so different Amazing video as always

[@OTechnology]

Yea the 4080 cards are somewhat similar. The coolers are essentially the same most of the time.

[@klubsybeartutorials8453]

​@@OTechnology i thought 4080 galax are S tier?

[@jesmith2086]

Just curious but what is the difference between the Gigabyte OC Gaming and the Gigabyte GeForce RTX 4090 AERO OC 24G Graphics Card?

[@christopherhaberny7463]

Yes, would love to know where the AERO OC falls in on this chart. Is it more similar to a Windforce or a Gaming card.

[@pedramkavian]

If someone wants to buy a 4090 just for playing and having fun and let's say he doesn't care about overclocking, is it then a good idea to buy a Palit version, since they're cheaper than the others?

[@mik0lvj]

I am so glad I found this video. I'm about to buy 4090 and I'm so lost with all those models. Great information, I think I'll go with TUF or GAMING OC. THANKS!

[@mik0lvj]

CHANGED MY MIND ILL GO WITH SUPRIM THANK YOU KING

[@pmarciano1717]

@@mik0lvj hey bro do u have choilwhine ? I tried 4 Asus Strix and they had terrible choilwhine

[@mik0lvj]

@@pmarciano1717 hey man I finally ordered MSI Suprim with air vents. Honestly I didn’t try it yet since I am waiting for a different power supply for my pc to even launch it. I’ll let you know how Suprim handles

[@pmarciano1717]

@@mik0lvj ok thanks man and good luck

[@mik0lvj]

@@pmarciano1717 u2

[@guerrierim15]

This is a great guide. And as mentioned in the video, if you don’t care to overclock, then any of these cards will do as all perform within a percentage point of each other at stock settings. Overclocking and cooling performance is what you mainly pay for when looking at different models of the same gpu. That and potentially higher binning (silicon lottery) which can, if lucky, reward you with a more power efficient processor (always a nice thing :D).

[@OTechnology]

That's exactly it. I really appreciate when someone watches the video and understands what I meant haha.

[@BeatmasterAC]

you forgot to mention noise, especially coil whine, buzzing or roaring sounds, while playing.

[@vidiveniviciDCLXVI]

The gamerock card is really trash, it draws 450w of power and can only clock to 2650. I have sent mine back and am getting the MSI Liquid card.

[@Davinmk]

@@BeatmasterAC coil whine is card dependent. it doesn’t happen just with one card

[@BeatmasterAC]

@@Davinmk never said it does. It's just a variable to keep an eye out.

[@Pr0digyZRX]

My Asus ROG Strix 4090 is supposed to be here today. (Waited till all the melting cables was figured out before getting one) but I can't wait to see the uplift I get from my Gigabyte 3080 Gaming OC to an Asus ROG Strix 4090 OC

[@andrewbako9494]

Bought a PNY XLR8 in December at retail 1599. Idle temp 30s, 1440p gaming 50s, 4K 60-70c. Absolutely no issues with it though I did have to tinker with fan curves - factor preset was terrible IMO. As he notes I have no plans to OC it. Love the performance Im getting - CP2077 4K looks and runs flawlessly.

[@smiIingman]

I got the same card and it is definitely very nice however mine has some insane coil whine in some games, also had some weird gpu related crashing so im starting to wonder if i got a faulty one, had this since october but i brushed most crashes off as driver related oopsies but we've had many driver releases now and despite rolling back and testing nearly all again, the crashes continue. Gonna RMA today and see if i can get a new one.

[@OTechnology]

I would definitely RMA if it keeps crashing. Not like its hard to get another one these days.

[@andrewbako9494]

@@smiIingman no issues here but Ive really only played a few games Path of Exile, Project Zomboid, CP 2077 and a few others

[@Astelch]

4090 is a 4090. I think if anyone is looking for a 4090 if u dnt plan to oc your gpu then find a card that is close to msrp while users planning to get some marginal performance and cooling can fork out 200-300 more for more features and imo better quality usually with a metal frame or a lcd attached to the gpu

[@Ku5hFi3nd]

Recently got a PNY 4090 as well. Managed to find an new/open box on Offer Up for $1200. It runs quiet no whine or anything, and I wasn't planning on overclocking anyway it's a freaking 4090 it runs everything great without messing with it. But those upper tier cards do look nice I'm not gonna lie, I mean just aesthetically speaking. The PNY is kinda fugly and it doesn't match my color scheme at all but at that price I didn't care.

[@KollerNi]

Are there any plans to provide the same video for the 5090 generation? When could we expect this since this content is super helpful? Many thanks.

[@thhm]

Thanks this cleared a lot about the pricing models i see for the 4090's for me. Now I hope theres a real life benchmarking for all these cards, to see if overclocking is worth it. :D

[@Murat.Gundogdu]

Amazing job. Thank you very much for these great video!!!

[@grigorgeorgiev4015]

Insanely good video, thank you soooo much! Packed with exactly the right information for making the right choice! Amazing, just amazing! I am subscribed.

[@OTechnology]

Glad it was helpful!

[@VitiateTheImmortal]

Ordered an MSI 4090 Suprim X yesterday. Initially intended to go with the rog strix but 2 months waiting as it wasnt in stock, wasnt worth it, the suprim looks stunning too!

[@諸葛村夫-w5f]

Want to know what tier would the Gigabyte 4090 AERO be in? looking for a white build and this one got me

[@Szenenmischa]

thx this actually made my decision clear to go for the strix now as I can't get the Suprime X in Australia atm.. also good to know the non OC card performs just as well.. easy 250AUSD saved

[@edwardstavick1272]

How would you rank the Gigabyte AERO 4090?

[@OTechnology]

Its the same card as the Gaming OC

[@edwardstavick1272]

Thanks!

[@firerain950]

Very helpful, thank you so much!

[@joaquinsanchezming5943]

Finally!! I've been waiting for this video a lot, and I hope you do the same with 4080. A question I have is, for those who want a watercooled 4090 for their custom loop, and that just want a ''normal'' OC, which to choose? A good VRM one and then put a waterblock on it? Because the Inno ones look meh don't they? I've thought about the founders if available but I don't really know what to do.

[@OTechnology]

Hopefully I can do the 4080 video soon. For watercooling a 4090, I would just get a card with a 600W power limit and waterblock it. The Inno3D ones are very mediocre.

[@Bluelemonzz]

Wow you did as lot of work on this video. Thanks for your data

[@boot-strapper]

Considering how much money I saved getting a Gigabyte windforce, and that im playing top tier games at the same framerates as cards that cost 300-900 more dollars, yeah im pretty happy.

[@enxgma8085]

Honestly, the VRAM, clocks speeds and etc doesn’t mean shit in actual gaming, if you see the top rtx 4090s benchmarks they all get the same FPS average (literally 1 fps difference) I got the strix mainly because I really like the design and it is one of the quietest ones

[@Hybrid330i]

I have a Gigabyte Waterforce 4090 card and was interested in the statement that there is no point having a water cooled system. My system is a 13900KS, 32gb 7200mhz, Waterforce 4090 and I also use a x73 AIO for the CPU. The advantage of having AIO is two fold, the 4090 card size is reduced and the major one is it somewhat removes the heat away from the internal parts of the case. In my case I have the AIO for the GFX card mounted on the top and the AIO for the CPU mounted on the front. Both AIO fan stacks blow air out of the case. This has lowered internal temps of the case a whole bunch and I can run demanding workloads without silly internal case temps. My point is that with AIOs you have a lot more options of where you put your heat. You cant really hear the AIO pump btw way so this is a non issue.

[@OTechnology]

That is a real benefit of AIOs for sure. I was just speaking in regard to performance, where there's no benefit in going watercooled since the air coolers perform nearly the same.

[@Hybrid330i]

​@O!Technology Yes from what I have seen with performance tests the cooling seems fine on long gaming sessions on demanding games. The latest patch for cyber punk with everything maxed out and path tracing turned on at 4k it is consuming near max power and heat on my system is stable. With AIO cards the performance benefit comes not from the card but from not heating the case ambient temp up and thus causing runaway effects to other components eg NVME or CPU. It's a total.picture approach to cooling and AIO cards give you those options. That is where the value and purpose of the cards are. But I get your point specifically to the card itself. I learnt a lot BTW about the components side of things BTW vs price as that whole side of thing had me confused as to why their is a $1000 difference in price in our country so thank you.

[@Alupl]

@@Hybrid330i Yea that's one big point in AiO / custom loop. Sadly in this generation there's only Inno3D Frostbite with warranty to be used in custom loop so if some1 (like me) would like to have a card with warranty (we're talking not cheap cards here) there isn't really much options: Frosbite or one of those AiO ones. I wasn't into Inno3D Black but it can be found very cheap (like 4090 Gaming OC) from 14-days returns with 3 year warranty and despite power limit and VRM i'm reading it's pretty good (AiO made by Arctic, same 38mm rad as in LFII for CPU and P12 fans). I could buy also 4090 Waterforce but there are some negative reviews on this card, maybe it's the problem with rev. 1.0 but shops don't mention that detail or don't want to ... Anyway that's a nice comparison - thanks @O!Technology :)

[@SimplexPL]

Got PNY Verto XLR8 for 1709€, which I consider a relatively good deal considering overall crazy prices.

[@vrnoobie3804]

i have the eyes on that card too, because the cheap price , BUT, a 4090 is a 4090. But.. i have a question... does a seasonic gx 850 will be good or should i replace the psu too? i have a r9 5900x.

[@SimplexPL]

@@vrnoobie3804 I'm bought it for VR too :) I have 760W Fractal Design ION and 9700K at 4,5GHz and it works fine.

[@redboomer7982]

Please do one of the 4070 TIs, I am in between a gigabyte oc and a PNY model oc

[@mrlk665]

gigabyte oc

[@OTechnology]

PNY is 100% for sure worse than Gigabyte’s from what I’ve seen.

[@redboomer7982]

@@OTechnology the gigabyte model is a tiny bit more expensive, I will eagerly wait for your next comparisons

[@Ku5hFi3nd]

@@OTechnology Isn't gigabyte the one having the all the issues with cracked PCBs? I would avoid them honestly.

[@cliche_AF]

Looking forward to your 5090 vrm video man !

[@lutrueson9000]

Regret buying my 4090 as it makes so little difference to the games i play, while fps may be a thing for some games better graphics just don't bother me as much as i thought they would, in fact i like the idea of a super low profile that runs cheap and offers acceptable game play

[@pauldecaro1416]

Bro no way.

[@TheNiktus]

man, thank you so much for this guide, i was struggling and now it's cristal clear in my mind, going for an asus tuf (my budget)

[@vdbmario]

Coil whine is so overlooked. I have seen great test results from ASUS but their coil whine is unbearable even at idle. If I’m browsing the web I’m not using a headset so coil whine is super important. All these GPU’s are very comparable in performance. The gigabyte gaming OC 4090 has a 4 year warranty and has great performance with nearly NO coil whine so my decision was easily made and it has been awesome!

[@OTechnology]

That’s good to know the gigabyte gaming oc has no coil whine. The problem with comparing coil whine is it’s pretty much impossible for me due to lack of that information from reviews. I don’t have all the card myself either. And I can’t just take the word of random strangers on reddit or other forums either.

[@yoool7137]

Its crazy you hear so much about coil whine in the comments, but the board partners never talk about it…they should also mention coil whine and do something against it..i wonder why that happens they have test labs. And how come, that rog strix has so much coil whine when they use the best components? It makes no sense

[@jack.smith2958]

@@OTechnology I just returned an ASUS TUF OC 4090 because of coil whine. It's so bad in some games that it actually can be considered "loud", as in "very annoying to be in the same room as". I'm getting a Gigabyte Gaming OC to replace it. Fingers crossed.

[@I_Crit_My_Pants]

@@OTechnology Exactly this, like if you go looking around you'll find for example forum posts of people saying the MSI Suprim X has coil whine, but then you'll also find videos of people with them proving it doesn't. There's so much false information spread, even by consumers that it becomes near impossible to seperate fact from fiction.

[@fokjohnpainkiller]

@@I_Crit_My_Pants Contrasting experiences needend be misinformation

[@Celexanomnom]

I just got a strix 4090 but I don’t intended to overclock. Sounds dumb I know but with all the burning cables issues, I just don’t want to risk it. Haven’t started my new build yet so but I’m hoping I’ll have time within the next few weeks .

[@MacwinsTV]

I personally think FE is S tier list because of Price , Performance ,Cooling & Voltage unlocked. For few fps extra it's not worth jumping . Get a Custom Liquid cooler and you have a monster 4090FE if you are into that.

[@Wodagazowana5000]

Why liquid?

[@Albrazi]

Where would you rank the Gigabyte Aero on your tier list?

[@edgyjorgensen3286]

Been happy with my Asus Strix but it took a lot of searching over pcb pictures to find what I wanted. Thank you for making these accessible so I can come here for this information in the future. 😊 Would love to see this for AMD flagships as well.

[@MarkJacksonGaming]

-- Buying end of this month. Leaning towards the TUF though I do have the money for the Strix. Just not going to do extreme overclocking. Just a little. And I think I can offset cooling with my case (13, 120mm fans Corsair 5000D) and a simple custom fan curve in Afterburner. I can't justify the Strix. But I'd be open if anyone would like to prove me wrong. If you agree with me, I'd like to hear that too.

[@CryptoProjects]

Nice video. Do one of 4080 if its possible!

[@OTechnology]

Now that this is out I can do that one shortly!

[@TheLaughingMan48]

Was able to bag the Gigabyte 4090 gaming OC for £1594 with the current prime deals saving £300. Can't wait to try it and your video helped me choose between MSI gaming trio x and gigabyte. Thank you.

[@MrEL91N]

You were able to find a card discounted with the prime sale? I’m in the US and when I looked all cards prices were the same as always. No discount for the sale.

[@foetor]

I am totally happy with my Zotac Trinity 4090

[@d-wired]

Yeah, I bought both a Asus TUF OC and Zotac OC and made really deep comparisons between these cards for about a week. You know, I returned my ASUS card. The Zotac was running cooler with the same noise level, It clocked better on the memory (it's more important than the core) and it just felt like the better choice. I didn't expect the Zotac Trinity OC to be placed at the bottom of this list. You can probably see this more like someone who judge the tier levels based on the specifications and some personal feelings.

[@hiyasuamv9776]

I had to return my zotac, the fan motor was noisy as heck for me

[@attribute-4677]

This is great. For someone that’s looking to build a new machine, knowing which companies are reducing quality to make an extra buck lets me know who to avoid. Thank you

[@mythomytho6328]

Great video, thanks! Any concern regarding the quality or life expectancy of the Gainward Phantom compared to a Gigabyte Gaming OC for instance ? I am not planning on overclocking, so i'd rather spend the money somewhere else if it doesn't matter.

[@lil----lil]

Very, very good! You've discovered a niche that big tubers usually don't bother with! Subscribed & Thumbed Up!

[@beam-sg5mw]

Yes! With Galax 4090 SG i did right choice. Good to see that video. Other than that, i saw cheap suprim x and liquid x in the market, but this video made me happy with my Galax again. Also its coolest and silent card ive ever used, Thanks for the review.

[@AsmodeusExx]

im going to buy one with with stock liquid cooler..is a good deal? =)

[@Thmyris]

Fantastic video, just the data I was looking for. Ty ser

[@EvenstarN7]

Thanks for the guide! I've been struggling to decide ever since EVGA tragically left the GPU market. This guide helped me decide on the GIGABYTE AORUS MASTER. The ASUS Strix is $400 more expensive, and the Galax HOF is...hideous. Thanks for the wonderful guide =^.^=

[@razvanelp]

ME to, i buy Aorus Master 4090 and zero coil. Happy.

[@redbullsauberpetronas]

Be very careful with it, gigabyte cards are prone to cracking

[@riptidegaming06]

@@razvanelpare the gigabyte cards the least likely to have coil whine because that’s what reddit says? Also, if I want zero coil whine, should I go aorus master or gaming oc?

[@riptidegaming06]

@@redbullsauberpetronasjust use the include anti-sag bracket or a third party one and don’t transport your pc with the gpu installed and you’ll be fine from what I read.

[@Vladimir-hz8yj]

Thanks. Wait for RTX 4080 review👍

[@noneB974]

Just got the asus tuf oc based on the video! I was getting best price to performance on it Thanks

[@OTechnology]

Good choice!

[@RJ-pb1qx]

Wondering how the Gigabyte Aero 4090 stacks up against these cards, hardly any info on it anywhere

[@AR-ey1ur]

Thanks for the review. For the longest time I've been looking for reviews that look at the build/component quality of gpus/mobos to avoid paying a brand premium that isn't backed up by higher reliability/quality. Anyone can do an fps benchmark video, but reviews like this require good knowledge of electronics. Personally, I've wondered if the premium for Asus gpus/mobos is justified. From this review, it seems that maybe it is. I'm currently thinking about ASUS TUF B760 / Z790 and Strix 4070TI / TUF 4080.

[@DJaquithFL]

I'm new here, much better video than I thought it was going to be (still frame videos). So kudos. I have the gigabyte OC RTX 4090 because it was choice A and A .. the only one I can get at lunch. That high tiered ASUS was sold out 10 minutes before the official launch! CPU-Z 9YK75J

[@DJaquithFL]

.. LMAO am I going to feel inadequate because of the RTX 4090 TI or whatever they're going to call it. The plan is the same. Get the fastest card at launch. Use it for 2 years. Buy new. Repeat. I'm upgrading from my old EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra. CPU-Z 9mm3cz

[@adanflores1198]

I actually got a 4090 ASUS TuF non OC and I’m super happy based on the tier selection. Im pairing my card with a Ryzen 7 5800x3D and I can run pretty much run anything on 4K settings at 120 fps and 1440p settings on 240 fps. I manually did an overclock on mine so I can boost the clocks speeds a little higher than the OC edition , not worth paying more for the OC edition when I can manually overclock and get better clock speeds and save some money at the same time. ASUS is always up there with the best of the best which makes me happy.

[@hyper_channel]

TUF line is surprisingly good bang for buck (none really are when it comes to 4090 but still) I've been using a 3080 tuf for years (got it on release day) with 0 problems. For the 4090 the TUF and the MSI Suprim seem to be the best picks outside of maybe extreme overclocking.

[@WiseSilverWolf]

I dont have an RTX 4090 but this is very useful info for someone looking to buy one in the future.

[@ChadKenova]

Love my gaming oc 4090 i had a choice between it or a gaming trio from msi i went with the Gigabyte card because it had a vapor chamber and had a higher voltage limit. But honesty I really wanted a strix but those were impossible to find. At launch the bulk of 4090’s seemed to be asus tuf, gaming oc, and msi trio cards. I can’t believe how cool the card runs stays in the high 50’s and topping out in the low 60’s most games. And it’s more power efficient than I expected it’s more efficient than my evga ftw3 3080ti in its oc bios the gpu i had before the 4090. I have it paired with a 5800x3d now did have a 5950x but switched to a 5800x3d when they got cheap. Just waiting to see the 7950x3d’s benchmarks, pretty sure thats what I’m getting but came very close to picking up a 13900k. Its so crazy the 4090 can be cpu bottlenecked at 4k in some games. But I still would like to add a nitro 7900xtx to my collection soon.

[@GewelReal]

did you upgrade to 7950X3D? Or will you be waiting for 7800X3D

[@ChadKenova]

@@GewelRealI went ahead and got the 7950X3d but I think I might have gotten the 7800X3d if it had came out at the same time. I drove 3 hours to a microcenter and I wasn’t gonna do it again so i got the cpu, a b650E aorus master, and 6000mhz cl30 ddr5. I normally get X boards but this time around a good b650e has everything I see no point in getting a 670 or 670E. But still waiting on a damn am5 bracket for my aio. I ordered one and my luck it got lost in the mail. Think I might just order a arctic freezer ii 420 or 360 aio. I have a kracken x72 and coolermaster ml360r now.

[@jwlafferty]

Are you loving the looks of the Gigabyte Gaming OC? I similarly had a 3090 FTW3 in my gaming build and lots of RGB bling. I assumed I'd pick up the Aorus Master 4090 this gen but I'm thinking of toning down everything going on in the case to focus on the 4090 as the centerpiece (i.e. still filling the case with RGB fans but getting a non RGB motherboard and subtle RGB on an AIO rather than a screen, no more Lian LI strimers, etc.) When I saw the Gigabyte Gaming OC with those RGB fans giving off a glow that can be seen through that huge heat sink I fell in love. A sort of subtle, sleeper looking card apart from it being massive and glowing with "power", lol. Still considering the Suprim X because it's still subtle enough and looks premium. But after having multiple MSI cards for mining they almost ALWAYS underperformed. Even my 3090 Ventus was the weakest of the bunch despite supposedly excellent cooling.

[@GewelReal]

@@ChadKenova remember to set the affinity correctly so games use the 3D cache CPU die (as Windows for now doesn't know exactly which CCD to put the games on every single time)

[@ChadKenova]

@@jwlafferty yea I would’ve preferred the master or a strix but got mine around launch when 95% of the cards were tuf, gaming oc and msi trio. Yea I loved the way my previous ftw3 card looked but the gaming oc at least has rgb fans but miss having rgb on the backplate. I probably just should’ve waited for 3 months and could’ve gotten the card i wanted but as far as what really matters the card is great can’t believe how cool it runs especially the gddr6x. Yea I do like how you can see the rgb fans even from the side of the card.

[@catalinneculita4988]

If going on synthetic benchmarks, when u have lots of xxxxx numbers ofc. some ppl. will say it’s a big difference, but in final all that is important, its how much % you can gain from 450W tdp to 600w tdp and that’s from 5% to 10%. But if you play games lets take an example in SOTTR: high overclock(1.1V,3000MHz, +1000mem- 480W, 65% fan speed, 74C, 129fps) and undervolt with overclock(0.096V, 2715Mhz, +700mem - 330W, 40%fan speed, 64C, 122fps), so 7fps(6%) difference it’s nothing compared with all that noise and heat.

[@disco.volante]

Cool video! I still like my Inno3D X3 despite being “low tier”. My reasons: Zero coil whine and running very cool and quiet while being a rather compact 3-slot-design that fits a lot of cases. They may have cut a corner or to with the VRM but the cooler ist great.

[@truthspeaker8243]

Yeah I am happy with my GameRock

[@georgiivanov4739]

​@@truthspeaker8243Is it loud, i heard some people say it's got noise issues

[@abzolini]

I appreciate the in depth video, almost bought an INNO3D X3 OC RTZ 4090… and I’m glad I didn’t!

[@Lorunification]

It would be interesting to see this tier list normalized by price. For example, the Ventus OC is almost 700€ cheaper than the Strix OC. Is the Strix the better card? Yes. Is it 700€ better? probably not.

[@cloudsaremashedpotato]

The price differs in every country

[@droidgestor1682]

If you dont buy the strix because the coil whine, what you will buy?

[@marcusgoodlooking2482]

What about coil whine summary?

[@KalebSDay]

8:43 shows total noise, that should be sufficient. Glad he mentioned that. Just going off of temps alone would have been a bad call given how much louder/noisy the gigabyte is compared to the lower noise models it is tested against.

[@Sunny_8418]

@@KalebSDayisnt coil whine pure luck thing? From what i understand it’s ur luck we may buy the same gpu brand, you dont have coil whine, but i may have it!.

[@Draga01]

Returning my brand new Asus ROG Strix 4090 OC that I got from BestBuy. The coil whine is INSANE, and is so much worse than online videos could possibly represent. I heard the coil whine from my Kitchen on the other side of my house! I'm not even joking!!! I trusted this reviewer, and a couple others, to provide me a clear vision into which card to get. Nope, Strix and TUF are literally the WORSE cards to get apparently.

[@jakek3653]

GeForce RTX™ 4090 AERO OC 24G where would you rate this card the all white one?

[@Serandi1987]

I've got the Gigabyte Gaming OC and I wanted this card because it fits perfectly to my Raijintek Paean Benchtable that I've set horizontally under my wall mounted LG OLED C1 65'. I always run my RTX 4090 undervolted and Powerlimit to 100% I've got no intension to OC this card. It only should run my games maxed out at 4K 120FPS/120Hz. That's all!

[@OTechnology]

I see no reason not to set it to 600W TDP and leave it there. With how good the cooler is its practically begging for it haha.

[@Serandi1987]

@@OTechnology I always get dizzy when I see drawing over 300 watts only by the GPU...

[@jesmith2086]

@@Serandi1987 Where can you see the power consumption?

[@Serandi1987]

@@jesmith2086 you can see the power consumption when you press ALT + R for come out the overlay. In Nvidia experience you can set what you want to see in the overlay. Just Google how to do that.

[@TeacherGamer1981]

I have a Zotac Trinity RTX 4090 made by PC Partner and it can be overclocked taugh I have never observed it exceeding 400 Watts. With that being said, the frequency can be adjusted and also you can undervolt it by lowering the power slider with any GPU handler ap like MSI Afterburner

[@crazyelf1]

Thanks. I wonder what you would consider "worth it". For example, in my nation, the pricing of the MSI 3090 Suprim is about 12% more than the Founder's Edition and the other high end top tier cards tend to cost more. Personally I think the Suprim is the one to get, as the others cost a lot more, although there's a case to be made that the AIO version of the Suprim is worth paying 4% more (that's how much more it was) than the air cooled version..

[@hyper_channel]

Suprim or TUF are the way to go IMO

[@Lowlin85]

Thank you for a very informative video. Just what I was looking for. :)

[@dannysmith713]

I'm sad the EVGA isn't making graphics cards anymore. Sure will miss them I have the RTX 3080 FTW3 Ultra. Sure want a RTX 4090 for the 24 gb VRam and dual nvenc encoders looks like STRIX card is only choice now!

[@rogervaldez3401]

Been with evga for ever it seems I'm sad about it also I used to try to match all my hardware with evga

[@kvernesdotten]

I ended up going with gainward phantom, mostly because i was planning to undervolt it instead of overclocking it anyway. Couldnt be happier with my choice tbh

[@givemeanameman1]

PNY XLR8 cooler is actually very good, and should be rated top tier. For 1-2c over 4090FE it runs ~300RPM slower, Giving 38.2db vs 45db founders edition using Toms Hardware methodology. I can confirm that even gaming the loudest thing in my computer is my HDD(silet fans, bequiet cpu cooler) Not my videocard... its the reason I bought it, many others have said the PNY XLR8 is effectively silent.

[@nguyendinh2052]

The only disadvantage of PNY XLR8 is that every once in a while I have to check if I'm using dGPU or iGPU because it' so silent.

[@askorczewski]

moreover, if you plan to watercool your whole PC, PNY XLR8 is the one, which uses the reference block from AlphaCool, with connectors in front/back of the block (not extending the high/size of the card). I'll give it a try. Btw. having 140fps in 4k I don't really need OC to get 10% more (so max currencies/voltage doesnt matter for me)... But it's always a matter of prios, of course.

[@veniulem5676]

I have to agree

[@Ku5hFi3nd]

@@nguyendinh2052 You can disabled integrated graphics in your device manager. My PC (PNY 4090 + 7800X3D) was slow to open games sometimes. I would open a game and it wouldnt start loading for like 30 seconds or more. It felt like it was hanging on some process or something. This went away after I disabled integrated graphics

[@TheRealDlo]

The man is BACK!!! GREAT VIDEOS

[@OTechnology]

Thanks! More to come!

[@TimothyStovall108]

Wow. Very nice! Thank you. Completely shifted my mindset away from the MSI Gaming X Trio I was looking at to the Asus TUF. Yeah, it's a bit more, but I am one for playing around with OC'ing, as well as a stickler for noise, and the ASUS TUF stats looks pretty nice.

[@peterneururer9398]

TUF owner here! Coil whine is terrible! Changed to msi x Trio which is completely silent under load

[@chrissyboy7047]

Im starting to think it must be an Asus thing. I just upgraded from a TUF 7900 XTX to an MSI Gaming X Trio. The Asus had coil whine but the MSI has none at all

[@alexwishm3327]

⁠@@chrissyboy7047 hey dude, how its going now? Is your gaming x trio still making no noise at all?

[@chrissyboy7047]

@@alexwishm3327 hey mate. Going well. No noise at all. Running perfectly silent. Ive noticed the fans very rarely ramp up too compared the xtx

[@alexwishm3327]

@@chrissyboy7047 This is great, thanks for the answer. I also didn’t find anyone on Reddit having problems with it yet and I hope I won't be the first 😐

[@cdieseldawg5850]

I have 4080 and 4090 zotac amp extreme airo’s in 2 different rigs. Both are amazing performers and I’ve got the 4080 and 4090@ +1000mem, + 120 core at max PL’s with auto fans for 24-7 use. They perform amazingly and stay super cool even with auto fans. Coming from 3080Ti FTW3 and 3080FTW3 respectively. Insane performance gains over the last series and unfortunate for everybody else, but fortunate for amp extreme airo owners, it is the ONLY card that isn’t ridiculously ugly except for GALAX.

[@bdifferentb]

I loved the 4090 AMP AIRO I had, but the fans were just too loud. What a horrible decision by them.

[@cdieseldawg5850]

@@bdifferentb I’ve got the 4090 in a Meshify 2. Must be a good case bc they aren’t loud at all to me on auto. 4080 is in a Meshify 2 XL and same there on auto.

[@brandonb8705]

@@cdieseldawg5850 The fans are already known to have a very low growling sound. I mean it's not really a debate. I'm glad they don't bother you.

[@cdieseldawg5850]

@@brandonb8705 it for sure isn’t a debate. They aren’t loud.

[@brandonb8705]

@@cdieseldawg5850 Whatever you need to tell yourself man. Like I said, glad they don't bother you. Pretty much every single review mentions the bad fans. It is what it is man. It's not a conspiracy lol. Zotac fans on the 4090s are loud and growl. It's the motors for the fans. It's a fact. The good part is they have very little coil whine.

[@evostu7814]

I have the msi Ventus 4090 oc due to its size as it’s no longer than my old 3080 & didn’t want to buy a new case, only needs 3 8pin power connectors as well which was a bonus & I’ve even managed to put 100mhz on the core with no issues. If you have a small case it’s well worth considering & you don’t have to miss out on 4090 performance.

[@Tutku35]

I am eyeing that card for my meshlicious case. Can you please tell me how is the noise and cooling performance?

[@evostu7814]

@@Tutku35 GPUz says max gpu temp 64.2, hot spot 70.9, memory 68 with fan speed 32% 1056rpm, that’s with 100Mhz overclock on the core playing Witcher 3 next gen update at 4K. As for for noise it’s no louder than my old 3080 gaming x, most importantly there is no coil whine. Only downside is no RGB not even the msi logo, I’ve just added a light bar to the inside of the support bracket.

[@ruipedroleite]

Great to know, just bought one specifically for its size. Was at the same price as the trio but those mm will be important on my O11 Dynamic (non Evo), probably will need to buy the 90° adapter from cablemod anyway.

[@Tutku35]

@@evostu7814 thanks for the detailed info. I actually dont like much RGB anymore and being have to using different apps to sync them thus I disable anyway.

[@EvilBlood007]

@@evostu7814 tengo miedo de que la 4090 strix venga con ruido

[@merlin8166]

The best review I have seen on 4090's thank you, subscribed.

[@Marco-cg7fb]

Pretty pointless really. No matter what 4090 you get, you’re getting the 4090 experience. The 4090 was designed to use all 600watt from the getgo, and only last minute nvidia decided to lower it to 450watt. The decision was made so so late in the release program, that the aib’s didn’t have time to change the cards. Meaning all the 4090 regarldess of what 4090 you get will be more than adequite for 450watt and should all hit 600 watt if available no issue. That’s also said for the coolers, they’re all massivly overbuilt.

[@BonanzaPilot]

I've been running the Gigabyte OC for 6 months now and its been great

[@jemborg]

Did you see the _tomshardware_ January 19th review of the PNY 4090 XLR8 Verto? They claim it has a decent build quality, "great cooling and noise levels". They did take it apart to examine the board and later overclocked the core +180 MHz and the memory to a stable +1600 MHz getting a 6.4% performance boost at 4K for an extra 3W. That's not too shabby for a card that's priced at the cheapest end of the 4090 line up don't you reckon?

[@OTechnology]

The hardware is what it is. It is as it is in the tiers. That's basically almost nothing in terms of performance gain from the overclock, its because of the limitation in the power limit.

[@jemborg]

@@OTechnology so you read it?... they didn't deny the power limitation at all. And I am mentioning it in terms of pricing. What overclocking gains at 4K could be expected from a more expensive card... you didn't say. Would it be like 30-40%? I guess you and tomshardware have a different idea of value? I _certainly_ wasn't expecting you to change its tier level mate get that out of your head.

[@Ku5hFi3nd]

@@jemborg yeah that seemed like a very defensive response and he didn't seem to care about the information you presented to him. Basically ignored everything you said and defend his video. Maybe he is secretly sponsored by some of the card in the tier tiers of his list, maybe not but it makes me not want to watch his vids honestly.

[@jemborg]

@@Ku5hFi3nd thanks. It may not be a card for benchmarking but so what? Besides I'm going to undervolt it anyway.

[@AxleLotl]

Hey mate, great video! Been thoroughly enjoying the more in-depth look at these GPU's and their hardware specs. Question, you wouldn't happen to know if the MSI Gaming X Slim is the same as the X Trio?