Which Series Is Bigger: The Ashes or Border-Gavaskar? Battle of Cricket's Giants👀| Kimber & Dasgupta

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@AdamVoges-ei1ek Ай бұрын

Why nobody discussing about Pakistan Zimbabwe rivalry Edit : how about organising a Masakadza-Azam Trophy 🏆🏆

@peeyushanand2137 Ай бұрын

That's beyond our analytical ability and proximity.....😂

@AdamVoges-ei1ek Ай бұрын

@@peeyushanand2137 bro don't forget that Pakistan toured Zimbabwe to play two test matches with full strength team , with babar shaheen and all main guy . This shows theirs commitment towards greatest rivalry of this generation

@deepop-n4p Ай бұрын

@@AdamVoges-ei1ek Very insightful Thanks for reminding .

@Visha054 Ай бұрын

😂😂

@imbatman999 Ай бұрын

Lol😂😂

@AR-qt8fs Ай бұрын

Simple. In terms of history- Ashes In terms of competition- BGT

@vishalk2495 Ай бұрын

Kids watch Ashes and BGT Legends know real rivalry is Pakistan Vs Zimbabwe ❤

@AmitKumar-nq7wk Ай бұрын

Old and lame joke

@nitlover8319 Ай бұрын

@@AmitKumar-nq7wk Yeah new one is Pak vs USA

@Anuragg134 Ай бұрын

😭😭😂😂@@nitlover8319

@DavidJaat-cy7dg Ай бұрын

@@nitlover8319please dont insult usa & Zimbabe 😶

@kicha6213 Ай бұрын

Yes the real rivals

@RedWeather2004 Ай бұрын

Ashes have only been good in England because its one-sided in Australia Australia nearly pulled off miracles in India like the 2017 series and had close battles with them at home which they eventually lost twice. I feel if anyone's picking Ashes (right now, currently) are just living off nostalgia

@James-st9uu Ай бұрын

I enjoyed 2010-11 and watching cook bat for days

@mikespearwood3914 Ай бұрын

@@James-st9uu Weird series: England win 1-3 in Australia...and England won all three matches by an innings!!!

@RedWeather2004 Ай бұрын

True that was the only highlight they'd take down under. But the ones after that we lost 5-0, 4-0, 4-0 and 5-0 in 2006-07. And when Australia go to England they win atleast 2 tests a series minimum.

@dansharp2860 Ай бұрын

Yeah but that's a whole lot of nostalgia to live off.

@king_has_no_clothskul8635 Ай бұрын

that first time they beat they beat they dominated: last match follow on and rain saved them but it was a defeat. india had a chance in 1985 which rained out. 2003 ganguly did not declare early. 2007/2008 india dominated but sydney loss cost them dear, kapil 2-2 had them on the mat. so they have had their chances.

@traumaticroids7929 Ай бұрын

As a aussie beating india in test feels so much more important at this present moment.

@snehalkhatri9357 Ай бұрын

Same, Beating Aus in Aus is like WC

@GoluKr-hn3lb Ай бұрын

Same 😊 for us

@imbatman999 Ай бұрын

With you mate 😂😂 it must have been embarrassing to loose back to back home series against Ind. Let's hope we'll get a good series this summer as well, and BTW we'll wil again😛😛

@dansharp2860 Ай бұрын

I'll be happy if we can beat them here. In India would be very nice.

@shardulkedar6689 Ай бұрын

Yeah even for us defeating Australia in Australia is like the best thing to happen in test cricket!!

@tommasoali7617 Ай бұрын

The Ashes are obviously bigger, BGT is obviously the better cricket series in terms of quality of the game itself

@parthratnu2953 Ай бұрын

Yeah when England last won the ashes ?

@tommasoali7617 Ай бұрын

@@parthratnu2953 doesn't change the fact that Aussies v Poms will always be bigger

@prakashmahtani6345 Ай бұрын

Couldn't have put it better. I don't get this argument, it will change every decade or two. Just glad I have seen India do what they have done in my life time. Something I did not expect when I was in my teens.

@Sid-e5y Ай бұрын

Obviously you guys lose to india all the time,it isn't a rivalry

@ankitra3667 Ай бұрын

Sir , what factors you have considered when said ashes is bigger than BGT?

@L.I.T.H.I.U.M Ай бұрын

The same way India vs. Pakistan is bigger than India vs. England even though beating England is harder. It's about what people care more about, not who's harder to beat. I would guess both English and Australians would care more about beating each other than beating India. Really depends on how you define "bigger".

@rubammonga6881 Ай бұрын

You summed up🥂

@mcdelive Ай бұрын

Ashes is Bigger, Border-Gavaskar is Better 😉

@ShivamGupta-nf4nv Ай бұрын

Diplomatic answer 😂😂

@deepakpokhriyal321 8 күн бұрын

Tumhe to politician hona chahiye bhai😅

@livercoolutd Ай бұрын

The reason why Border Gavaskar Trophy is the biggest rivalry in cricket right now is that it is a closely fought contest whether held in India or Australia. The Ashes in England is really great to watch, but it becomes a one-sided series in Australia with the Aussies thrashing England there. That doesn't happen with the Border-Gavaskar Trophy.

@rahulsinha623 Ай бұрын

The name border Gavaskar should change to border tendulkar series,why? As because when you are legend of the game you have some social responsibility too,you have an adulution a lagacy to follow till 18/11/23 Mr Gavaskar deserve respect but from 19/11/23 he lost all respect when he done pan masala advertisement if he is under some debt it will be understable but after earning so much he in his 70's misguiding the youth of India its not a mistake it's a sin so it should be BTT ( BORDER TENDULKAR TROPHY).An example should establish in our society that if you commited sin you have to pay heavily for it,like in Olympics if after win gold if one fail in medical test immediately the medal is taking back.🤫

@yadhaider807 Ай бұрын

Wrong, The Ashes is considered by both Australians and English as their biggest cricket event, even people who barely watch cricket in these 2 countries still follow the Ashes because its that big for them playing vs their biggest rival. Not the BGT. Also the person you were replying to is an Aussie.

@dhananjaybhagat8738 Ай бұрын

@@yadhaider807 Maybe bigger just because of marketing and nostalgia. 'At present' ask any cricket expert and neutral people about the quality of cricket being played in Ashes vs BGT. BGT certainly provides more quality cricket than the Ashes. Let's celebrate the quality of cricket no matter who plays it. It will be good for the cricketing world. Not any average cricket in Ashes in Australia and England is to blame here. The same reason why people are getting disinterested in Ind vs Pak matches especially in India because Pakistan has stopped playing good cricket. It doesn't feel like India were tested to a great extent to beat Pakistan. But the case is different with Australia though.

@NmD-no3vo Ай бұрын

@@rahulsinha623 Gavaskar is Tendulkar 's Hero. Also Border is not from Tendulkar era but Gavaskar thus the name. If new series are made then it could be Tendulkar-pointing series...

@YS27122 Ай бұрын

@@yadhaider807u are a pakistani, thats why u would never agree to the reality that the best rivalry in modern day cricket is IND vs AUS.

@Sanatan_Vaidik_Aary_Hindu Ай бұрын

Once ashes has the quality but never been the best After 2000 In BGT you can't say who is gonna win series wherever they are playing home or away but Ashes is one sided in Australia and Draw in England. So clearly BGT now is a rivalry like you see Barca vs Real Madrid it has that kind of value but now ashes is just overhyped😊😊😊

@rahulsinha623 Ай бұрын

@KICK839 Ай бұрын

Away ,india eating them tho

@mohammadmirza84 Ай бұрын

@@rahulsinha623 yeah ur a complete weirdo

@Yeesss1356 Ай бұрын

Barca and real Madrid>>>>>>>> entire cricket career. Chapri Indians comparing football to cricket. Ronaldo and messi is famous than entire cricket game 😂😂

@Yeesss1356 Ай бұрын

@@KICK839indias father Travis head ate whole vadapav in finals 😂😂

@VijayPadala-w2z Ай бұрын

No cricketing legend can describe the rivalry between Zimbabwe and Pakistan. Great respect to these two cricketing giants.

@KABIRA-v9g Ай бұрын

Well Absolutely nobody can forget about Great powers

@aanchitgovind581 Ай бұрын

Why not have someone like Ravi Shastri or Harsha here? There would be no beating around the bush, they would tell the truth: Ashes is history, Border Gavaskar is the biggest rivalry and bigger currently because England is not a great competitor, never really was in all honesty, but India has come up now as a proper rival to Australia and that makes it much more exciting, hence bigger.

@Ricky-ce2is Ай бұрын

It's not about competitiveness or rivalry. It's bigger only for Indians as India won last few series. Most Australians or Brits don't care if India win either. Both aus and eng pretty much use every test series as a warm up for Ashes selection. It's more like a cultural event b/w these two countries for over a century which is equivalent to WC for both. India doesn't even matter here. Not sure why Indians are so desperate to get compared.

@helopapajee Ай бұрын

Rivalries have changed in last 2 decades. In a world where England and Australia were a fierce competitor in tests, another world had India and Pakistan rivalry which was more important as a cricket fan. Now that India can compete the greatest of the tests, India and Australia have become biggest competitors.

@Sid-e5y Ай бұрын

India and Australia have been the cricketing superpowers since the 2000s,they have the best record bilateraly and in major tournaments since than,that's why the cricket World is excited about this series and there's so much hype

@rahulsinha623 Ай бұрын

@Yeesss1356 Ай бұрын

LockdownIndian kids comparing themselves with Australian legends is the biggest joke 😂😂. Australia has more trophies than all other cricket countries'. Australia super power no 1 and then other chapri cricket countries.😂

@nikunjdixit1175 Ай бұрын

BGT has been more consistently competitive since the turn of the century. The Ashes has more history and prestige and England and Aus is a lot more personal. Its the same thing with Ind and Pak. Ind beating Pak is a lot more personal than Aus. I suspect if you ask the casual Indian fan as to whom they would prefer to beat, Pak or Aus in a crunch situation, most people will say Pak. I will say that apart from the 2011-12 series, almost all series since the 03-04 series in Aus have been competitive.

@rahulsinha623 Ай бұрын

@maybepriyansh9193 Ай бұрын

This is probably on of the only places left where we get some real cricket analysis and narratives being discussed.

@KumarRaj414 Ай бұрын

Nobody talking about Pakistan vs Zimbabwe, Nepal ,Usa rivalry

@akhanduyitr369 Ай бұрын

Pak vs ire also 😇

@suroshalam Ай бұрын

Why are my Indian friends always so derogatory towards their neighbour? Wouldn’t it be better to take the high road and be nice all around ?

@KumarRaj414 Ай бұрын

@@suroshalam lele Mera wala pta chal jayega

@TheWayOfLifeE Ай бұрын

@@suroshalam kid go to pak then , pak is our black sheep son now not neighbor 😅

@Sid-e5y Ай бұрын

A lot of india dominating in aus is also conditions,there's not much lateral movement which helps the Indian batsman,and historically indi have had the flattest pitches for fast bowlers this Australian wickets seem like a paradise

@Adisonhvc Ай бұрын

You guys have lost four times in a row ,stay humble my guy@@MrCarrera28

@abhinandan1441 Ай бұрын

Racial vilification? 😂@@MrCarrera28 what are you talking about?

@MrCarrera28 Ай бұрын

@@abhinandan1441 Monkeygate.

@MrCarrera28 Ай бұрын

@@abhinandan1441 Monkeygate, when India are called on their bad behaviour the BCCI just threatens to pull out of the series.

@VIJAY4211 Ай бұрын

BGT has been the biggest fixture in world cricket in 21st century. Whenever these two teams clash, one of them has always been ranked no 1... also, the two most successful teams at ICC events.. Ask any broadcaster in India or Australia, which clash makes the highest revenue, there's only 1 answer...Steve Waugh called India the final frontier... Steve Smith said way back in 2017 that his biggest cricketing dream is to win a Test series in India. This coming from someone who hasnt won an Ashes in England till date... Cummins has said that a Test series win in India will be "era defining"... Virat and Rohit have already said that they enjoy playing Australia more than any other team... whoever does well in these contests, usually end up having a 10-15 year career... This years BGT will be one of the most highly anticipated Test series of all time... Australia will be aiming to win their first BGT in a decade, India will be looking to avenge the two final defeats of last year.. Both teams will be itching to get their hands on each other already... From what I last heard, the MCG Boxing Day Test tickets of Day 1 have already been sold.. This is cricket's El Clasico..

@yadhaider807 Ай бұрын

Ashes is bigger

@tarunreddy2031 Ай бұрын

@@yadhaider807 why are you crying mate? India vs aus is the best in terms of quality. Eng vs aus is best in terms of popularity and history

@yadhaider807 Ай бұрын

@@tarunreddy2031 how am I crying when you said the exact same thing as me that the Ashes is bigger

@tarunreddy2031 Ай бұрын

@@yadhaider807 with a context dude. The BGT has better quality than the ashes. Both in india and in aus. England is useless in aus conditions

@redeyexxx1841 Ай бұрын

@@tarunreddy2031Because Australia and England look at Ashes as their biggest cricketing event besides the World Cup. BGT generates more revenue purely because of Indian audience. Hardly anyone in australia cares about it

@akshaymate954 Ай бұрын

Based on history : Ashes Based on current hype and rivalry : Border Gavaskar

@wesleymaistry6278 Ай бұрын

If BGT was bigger than the Ashes then that would reflect in the attendance figures for the actual matches being played. No test series comes close to the fan attendance that the Ashes generates, then when you add the history and tradition it's a no brainer.

@_A.t.g Ай бұрын

Hmm. That seems like a one sided Australian pov.

@wesleymaistry6278 Ай бұрын

@_A.t.g Your reply doesn't make sense

@janga75 Ай бұрын

What are the viewing numbers tho

@naturemeditation3751 Ай бұрын

@@wesleymaistry6278 combined viewership digital + grounds BGT numbers are huge relative to Ashes games but i would say majority of those numbers would be skewed towards indian audiences

@HakunaMatata001-well Ай бұрын

@@wesleymaistry6278 Nah... It's just that kangaroos can't win against India... India is THE team to beat NOW...

@Sid-e5y Ай бұрын

Is it even a rivalry when india have won the last 4 times,it's a rivalry when it happens in Australia,and its a rivalry in a one off test,but I see the border gavaskar more as one sided than a rivalry

@TheeldenLord924 Ай бұрын

obviously India has had an upper hand on the last 4 occasions , But to call it "one sided" shows either you didn't watch any of the games or you don't know the meaning of the word one sided

@Sid-e5y Ай бұрын

@@TheeldenLord924 when it has happened in india it's been one sided ,in aus it's obviously competitive,but how can people call ashes one sided when aus haven't even won in england for a while and than call the bgt competitive when india have won twice in aus

@TheeldenLord924 Ай бұрын

@@Sid-e5y 2-1 is one sided ? 😭 Aus were a 180 chase away from winning the series in 2017 and axar had to bail india out twice to win the recent bgt. Go watch some games before blabbering

@kingboruto6973 Ай бұрын

In aus ues aus won or matches have been competitive but in india well since 1988 they won or drew only once 2004 @@TheeldenLord924

@Sid-e5y Ай бұрын

@@TheeldenLord924 india won both those axar matches by more than 100 runs,if that's the argument than the ashes have also been competitive in aus, because smith has had to bail them out

@jaserobert2758 Ай бұрын

As an Aussie who has no interest in cricket anymore, the Ashes is the only clash that i will watch and get excited about.

@hardik6918 Ай бұрын

Why u aint interested in cricket Any particular reason?

@yadhaider807 Ай бұрын

@@hardik6918Indians ruined the sport, that's why

@physco4641 Ай бұрын

No interest in cricket. Your opinion doesn't matter

@yadhaider807 Ай бұрын

@@physco4641 it does matter. What that means is that even those who don't watch cricket much in Australia or England will still watch the Ashes because its their biggest cricket event. Similar to how in other countries, casual cricket fans only watch the world cup and nothing else. In other words, Ashes is the biggest test cricket rivalry.

@mrgyani Ай бұрын

Pakistanis are losing interest coz their team isn't doing so well. Aussies have lost interest coz their team has done it all.

@MSsnakeeyes123able Ай бұрын

Being an Indian , I have always considered Ashes is more valuable than the world cup. It is the oldest rivalry in the cricketing nation and it is the only rivalry that kept European and specifically England, Irish, Dutch and other neighbouring countries interested in the sport and they consider it as a holy rivalry even more than EPL, Champions league etc because Ashes is more of pride rivalry rather than just dominance.

@samratmanna8310 Ай бұрын

Its 120 years vs 30 years. So not comparable. But England can't compete in Australia. Ashes away is just good cricket. Ashes in Australia is just thrashing. Same as BGT in India

@AH00009 Ай бұрын

Ashes is Different

@dhananjaybhagat8738 Ай бұрын

Atleast Australia manage to win a test in India but England can't even do that in Australia.

@limewelsh Ай бұрын

Completely agree with Jarrod, he has his finger on the pulse of cricket and of fans in Aus

@meetgala6455 Ай бұрын

Its high time we need Aus vs Eng vs Ind tri series in all 3 locations

@tezhda Ай бұрын

As an Indian Fan, Kimber is one cricket guru who understands the undertones and nuances - appreciate his take

@karthikpatra Ай бұрын

Pure sporting competitiveness or history does not automatically translate to a bigger rivalry. The emotional response among the general public requires something more personal, something bitter beyond just cricket. Aus and Eng have that history and so do Ind and Pak. The BGT series can never upstage ashes for a typical Aus fan in that regard.

@Therealtalkpodcast1115 Ай бұрын

Based on the ones I've watched live, 2014, 17, 21 bgt and 2013, 19, 23 ashes, all were phenomenal in cricketing quality

@SohamBhattacharya3105 Ай бұрын

Apart from Sri Lanka vs Bangladesh, Pakistan vs Afghanistan has also become a heated rivalry in the recent past.

@davidmeiklejohn9800 Ай бұрын

You can't leave out the history. If you're asking Australians (as the only ones involved in both series), it's still the Ashes.

@snehalkhatri9357 Ай бұрын

How? And Why?

@TheeldenLord924 Ай бұрын

Australians as in YOU ? I would take a series win against India currently any day of the week

@nikunjdixit1175 Ай бұрын

@@TheeldenLord924 I think the discussion is about consensus. I think the history of The Ashes is so vast that you can't ignore that Aus and Eng have an additional personal edge in wanting to beat the other, even if Ind is a more competitive team against them.

@TheeldenLord924 Ай бұрын

@@nikunjdixit1175 Doesn't matter lmao , Wi have been more competitive here in the last couple of years than England , I would take beating india in aus anyday of the week because it is a lot harder to but also because it will be a sweet revenge

@nikunjdixit1175 Ай бұрын

@@TheeldenLord924 I get that. But that's just an individual choice. If you take a consensus of group of Aus fans, I am sure most of them will say The Ashes. Most Indian fans would say the same when choosing between beating Pak and Aus.

@thiefoftomorrow Ай бұрын

aus vs england in england is the show piece cricket event

@LordPuneet377 Ай бұрын

What about aus v eng in Australia 😂😂😂😂

@yadhaider807 Ай бұрын

@@LordPuneet377 still is

@LordPuneet377 Ай бұрын

@@yadhaider807 lol ur funny

@A.K.M.333 Ай бұрын

As football fan History is important and that why Ashes is top riverly.

@TheSarenaster Ай бұрын

The your opinion doesn't matter 🤓☝🏻

@andrewfleming2892 Ай бұрын

Border Gavaskar Trophy has become the second most important test rivalry replacing the Frank Worrell Trophy for Australia. An away Ashes series will remain the most important series for both England and Australia given the difficulty of task over the past twenty or thirty years of winning series away from home.

@tejasnatu90 Ай бұрын

Historically of course its the Ashes, but in terms of quality I believe BGT beats Ashes. Ashes is too one sided in favor of the Aussies. BGT, with India suddenly winning two in two away and under extreme circumstances, and Aussies still not able to find a way to defeat India in India, has suddenly raised the bar and stakes really high I believe.

@CricketGentlemensGame Ай бұрын

8:38 finally someone remember that gill was also playing that test (and scoring 91 {also with new ball})

@Bikramecotence Ай бұрын

You are ding good work folks, the ratio of (View:Like) is impressive.

@Natureshortcircuit Ай бұрын

Well, I feel like Ashes is more like Manchester United vs Liverpool. England is more like Manchester United here basking on the past glory🥲. India is more like Man City, sudden rise to power and there is more money involved. This is my personal opinion, and anyone can disagree.

@yashbansal7492 Ай бұрын

No 115 charges though

@acestar-et1km Ай бұрын

Great Show 😊

@kaakutstha Ай бұрын

Ashes may be big on history, but its seldom made for compelling viewing. I've only watched three closely fought Ashes series in the 3 decades that I've followed the game: 2005, 2019 & 2023

@Bhavik630 Ай бұрын

BGT may be bigger when it comes to competitiveness but when it comes to following, Ashes has and will always have an upper hand as it means a lot to Australian and English Cricket fans as its part of these two countries Sports culture.

@jayaramnarayanan8752 Ай бұрын

BG Series is financially a goldmine for Cricket Australia.

@ExtremeZZZLifeOnTheEdge Ай бұрын

The Gabba test made hard core Australian fans cry.

@ashishchauhan4042 Ай бұрын

India vs Australia is more than just a game of cricket. Even the events in between to overs are worth watching.

@walkingalive189 Ай бұрын

Pure Cricket wise Ind vs Aus & Aus vs Saf (few years back) was the best. But Ashes & Ind vs Pak(if it ever happened again) are the two biggest series but its much more than cricket

@opinions1461 Ай бұрын

@2.55 Spot on, By conservative estimate 90 out 100 Aussie would be saying cricket? Don't know mate I watch AFL...

@Shad0w5carab Ай бұрын

From an Aussie perspective its still the Ashes by an absolute landslide. Yes India is a much bigger challenge to overcome but England are the enemy and nothing will ever compare to the feeling of beating them. Also to be honest it still doesn't feel like theres any chance of us winning in India so away series are a write off before they even begin., everyone just watches the highlights on the news and goes "Oh look, another dust bowl, India opened with two spinners and they took all the wickets cause every 3rd ball doesn't bounce, oh well"

@dakshpatil8201 Ай бұрын

Same reason we indians call ind vs pak huge..while everyone knows how difficult beating pak really is🤣🤣,it all basically depends upon the history

@SunrajAhirrao Ай бұрын

good that the panel did not mind discussing INDvPAK rivalry. They would be forced to change the title of the video.

@SohamBhattacharya3105 Ай бұрын

Deep actually made a really good point - India touring Austrlia is bigger than England touring there and Australia touring England is bigger than them touring India. Although, it must be said that Steve Waugh did call India the "final frontier".

@rahulsinha623 Ай бұрын

@Andyferguson-ml4uo Ай бұрын

Neither. India v Pakistan is the biggest rivalry in cricket.

@_A.t.g Ай бұрын

It doesn't happen anymore dude.

@rahulsinha623 Ай бұрын

@redeyexxx1841 Ай бұрын

India vs Pakistan series doesn't even happen

@groot3535 Ай бұрын

Agreed

@ClydeMillerWynant Ай бұрын

To me with these things you have to take how you would feel about losing into account as well as how you would feel about winning. I can easily imagine that many Australian supporters would be more excited by beating India at home than winning another Ashes, but also suspect they might be considerably more horrified to lose a home Ashes series than they will be if they lose to India again. As an England supporter I think winning an away series in India would be a bigger achievement than winning in Aus though obviously the latter would also be quite something given how poorly we've performed there the last three times. Cold assessment of what's more difficult or impressive doesn't govern excitement levels though!

@dansharp2860 Ай бұрын

Aussie here and you are right on the money. Can take losing to India because they are so good. Winning in India is a massive achievement and we realise it's the hardest ask in test cricket. However, lose to England and the country would go into melt down. Here? That can not happen if people want to keep their jobs. The media over hype the Ashes which doesn't help.

@SunilPokhrel-wo9ew Ай бұрын

@@dansharp2860I live in Sydney as an Indian immigrant and what I found is that Aussies just loves beating Eng time and time again and losing a home Ashes against Eng is just not acceptable by Aussie fans at all whereas whenever Ind beats Aus,Aussie media and fans take it casually as just another game that Aus lost to India whereas losing to Eng especially in home Ashes is just painful for Aussie fans

@callofduty3807 Ай бұрын

Ashes. Aus Vs Eng is and will always will be bigger than any team that comes to Aus. It may be a smaller trophy but it means a lot more to win than some trophy that is only like 30 years old. Aus and Ind will never be on that level.

@kuldeepsingh211 Ай бұрын

We need to give every test trophy/series/rivalry a name like Ashes and BGT and use it more often.

@_A.t.g Ай бұрын

Yeah. If you are going to the effort of making trophy like a tournament just think up of a name.

@knowledgiyapa Ай бұрын

Aussies who are saying I am only interested in ashes are the ones who know that in ashes they are going to win more often than not. But with india, In india forget about winning the series even in your dreams. And in your own home Australia, you are always under tremoundous pressure because you know one mistake and you will lose for sure. That's how strong the Indian test cricket team is. You are not going to win without playing your A game.

@redeyexxx1841 Ай бұрын

That's not the topic here. Thing is England and Australia have a long history and that's a part of the reason why Aussies see Ashes as the second most important cricketing event besides the World Cup. It's similar to let's say India vs Pakistan has bigger importance to the Indians than India vs Australia. I mean I would prefer losing to Australia than losing to Pakistan.

@KICK839 Ай бұрын

It is . Well obviously their will always be history.

@kc4276 Ай бұрын

Ashes is a historical rivalry between the Anglos. Casual fans would be more excited for this series. BGT is the present/future. Hardcore fans would, probably, be more excited for this series. I suspect that, in general, most Aussies are still biased towards the Ashes (nothing wrong with that), but commerce favours the BGT.

@ManojSingh-zx5rt Ай бұрын

Hyping BGT is a joke. Remember in the 70s and 80s, it was difficult for Aus to beat WI but still the Ashes was more important due to historical reason.

@rahulsinha623 Ай бұрын

@marathiboi96 Ай бұрын

match quality over history anyday

@yadhaider807 Ай бұрын

@@marathiboi96Aussies won't care

@Rohan_Choudhary5 Ай бұрын

@@yadhaider807players don't play for spectators...they play for themselves...they play for their own pride...mindset of player is totally different from normal person...

@AR-qt8fs Ай бұрын

If given a chance of watching India play Pakistan or India play Australia 90% would currently choose Australia coz of competition...even though there's a richer history against Pak.

@Sandu455 Ай бұрын

Border gavaskar is the new ashes.. ... the retro ashes where eng vs aus go on head to head has lately been like a normal tests instead of tug of war.. where as the border gavaskar trophy is so entertaining

@callofduty3807 Ай бұрын

If you say so buddy.

@rynverse8479 Ай бұрын

Once a man said "come to Gaba" and the rest is history 🌚

@Ricky-ce2is Ай бұрын

Yea after that india lost WTC final and WC at home. Moron. A much weaker WI won at GABA recently too, but unlike INDIAN incels they don't jerk on that always.

@rajeshdebnath4523 Ай бұрын

BGT is much competitive and excitement tournament then Ashes

@Vibranium603 Ай бұрын

Australia beating England either home or away would feel satisfying but wouldn't surprise or shock anyone. On the other hand . . .

@abdullahalmahmud5138 Ай бұрын

I want to see an Ashes series in India!

@Devastating-queen-destroyrKing Ай бұрын

3:30 makes very good sense

@pranavmishra4323 Ай бұрын

Awesome show with Kimber, the host and John Cena

@maxmustard7028 Ай бұрын

Good conversation. Payne thing was Gabba. Be nice if Test cricket was played outside of 3 countries its all over soon. Go the Dees.

@SAFFRONINFERNO Ай бұрын

We need Benson/Hedges - Carlton Tri Series back ACB/BCCI should make it happen once again with preferably ECB

@eshwaryapathak Ай бұрын

Ashes is better brand and marketing - BGT is a better product.

@karneshwarj Ай бұрын

In Historic Presence you can say Ashes was the biggest and most important test series in world cricket but now Border-Gavaskar is Bigger

@vivekbhagat114 Ай бұрын

Obviously ashes has a history and tradition but india australia and india england also has traditional rivalry

@vikrantkalyan7598 Ай бұрын

Meanwhile in the Caribbean Rakheem the dream v Azam the dazam being built as an all time rivalry CPL IS THE BEST FRANCHISE LEAGUE GOING AROUND GOATED BY THE TWO LEGENDS OF THE GAME

@CoderHarsh Ай бұрын

Ashes is due to historical moment but due to competitiveness Border Gavaskar is prime right now

@CricketEngland Ай бұрын

ASHES!

@hridikpaldiwal Ай бұрын

yes, quality of border gavaskar is bigger but as a person living in aus, people care about ashes way more

@kirkelliott493 Ай бұрын

Im a massive cricket fan... and England v the aussies is the biggest rivalry in the game

@jacknoone3725 Ай бұрын

For us, the Ashes are obviously bigger, but I do think we don’t make anywhere near as much out of India series (our left-field picks are all with a view to the Ashes, even Bashir who made his debut in India is a tall lad who gets bounce). Looking forward to India next year, will be a true test of ‘Bazball’, we’ve beaten India in a one-off Test, we’ve matched our results away to India and at home to Australia and done well against the rest but we could do with a real statement series win

@VishalYadav-jl1cc Ай бұрын

How about a test tri series among India,Australia and England 😎

@ankmondal573 Ай бұрын

A tri test series among India, Australia, England 💚

@jimmyc7624 Ай бұрын

Deep dasgupta class personified the aussie berk who no one knows hasn't got a clue about cricket and just tried to wind people up.

@fin-ed6oj Ай бұрын

If you asked 100 random Aussies today, 85% would still prefer to win the Ashes in England than the BGT in India

@suryakantpaital7306 Ай бұрын

Because . People like tough games... In india BGT is like❤ biased........... A bit of compitition in australia 🦘

@suryakantpaital7306 Ай бұрын

It's almost impossible to beat india in INDIA'

@neilgovender7450 Ай бұрын

How about England vs India? I think Autralia long term will become much weaker.This was on the cards when all their greats retired but sort of had a rejuvenation but very much like the West Indies it will fade away.They have smaller player pools and are not as rich as the other 2 and essentially is isolated as a nation. They also will have competition from other sports and moreso from short form cricket. England the colonial masters with a strong economy can sustain its passion for test cricket and India with it's cricket fervency will remain strong. Currently there is no comparison to the Ashes. Asa South African cricket fan I watch the Australian Ashes summer which sometimes begins at 00:30 SAST. Its the nostalgia the historic trends were one is stronger than the other. I make England favourite for the next Ashes down under simply because the Aussie attack is coming to its end. In addition Steve Smith and Usman Khwaja are also expected to retire and there are no obvious replacements. What do you guys think about my take?

@naveenn6355 Ай бұрын

You guys could have chosen a better guest than Deep Dasgupta.. he is so insignificant!!

@nastybadger-tn4kl Ай бұрын

Kimber understand nuances of india more than indian. He has the knack on seeing things deeper. its just that india competed better than england. That make it more tougher. Australia can win in england but in india? Lot tougher as long ashwin is alive and playing England had fluke win in 2005. Only strauss led team conquered australia in 30 years. England were punching bag for australia Aussies has will to win. But in india they are outskilled by indians. For aussies to beat indian in Australia is easy if they bring Smart fast bowler. Cummins is smart and hazlewood and starc and lyon not that smart. They are ok bowlers. Aussie need one upcoming Tall "Smart" fast bowler. One of the problem is finding players is that lots of politics involved in every country

@Epsilon04 Ай бұрын

Yes, it is so easy for them to win in England that they haven’t done it for 23 years, 26 by the time they next come over here.

@jamesatkinson12 Ай бұрын

BG trophy since 2000 Total India wins - 9 series and 1 tie Total Aus wins - 4 series and 1 tie 2001 in india - india 2-1 2003 in Australia- tie 1-1 2004-5 in India - Aus 2-1 2007/8 in Aus - Aus 2-1 2008 in India - India 2-0 2010 in india - India 2-0 2011 in Aus - Aus 4-0 2012 in India - Ind 4-0 2014 in Aus - Aus 2-0 2014 in India - Ind 4-0 2017 in India - Ind 2-1 2018 in Aus - Ind 2-1 2021 in Aus - Ind 2-1 2024 in India - Ind 2-1

@mrgyani Ай бұрын

Lets not hype the BGT so much, and our team goes there and gets crushed like there was no competition.

@shridhardeshpande1790 Ай бұрын

Ashes is bigger than bgt hands down but currently context wise bgt is bigger

@louquay Ай бұрын

India are coming here this summer and England are coming here next summer. If you told me we could only win one of them, 100/100 times I'm choosing to beat England. Therefore The Ashes is the more important series regardless of any context

@tigersden13 Ай бұрын

Ashes in England, BGT in Australia. But Ashes is still bigger in my opinion.

@arjunps6776 Ай бұрын

When was the last time a great Ashes series was played in Australia where the final test in Sydney was the decider? The Ashes is competitive only when it's held in England. In Australia, the hosts win it hands down. England is always under prepared when they go down under and come up with hundreds of excuses for their defeat. In the case of BGT, both countries have hosted very competitive series. So, Ashes is only good in England. BGT is good both in India and Australia.

@Bobertron199494 Ай бұрын

In Australia, BGT is clear. But Ashes in England is still the best series going

@TheKernal96_ Ай бұрын

Langer said the main thing is to win in india. im assuming its the hardest challenge

@chrismcdonaghsignwriting1568 Ай бұрын

Kimber is spot on here.

@prodigiii712 Ай бұрын

Casual cricket fan from Bangladesh. Just heard of Border Gavaskar trophy. Knew of Ashes since the time I started watching cricket.

@ashiq3871 Ай бұрын

I mean this is like asking if india v Australia is better than india v Pakistan in limited overs as the former produces better quality matches. The same guys saying bgt is better in tests because of quality will say india v Pakistan is better cause of the history 😅

@arrgghh1555 Ай бұрын

The BGT may be the better more competitive competition at the moment. But it's still just a rivalry between cricket teams. The Ashes is a rivalry between nations, it's history and importance goes far beyond the cricket field, from colonisation in 1788 and the years of imperial rule, to being used and abused on the fields of Gallipoli and being abandoned to fend for our selves during WWII, from Bodyline, the invincibles and ball of the century, it is Australia's moment of going to war against the 'old enemy'. Beating the English is more important than winning the world cup. Case is point is the World Test Champions trophy, it was only seen as a warmup match for the real battle to come, the ashes.

@tanbirnr2389 Ай бұрын

India needs to beat Australia atleast 5 to 10 times more series back to back to have that rivalry, that people actually really care about by than old gen will be gone and new gen will think this as a new ashes rivalry, also india will be the complete superpower in all sectors. So it's will be a big news all over the world if someone beat india.

@djsejwal2 Ай бұрын

Both have different stature. Aus v eng ( both teams play in almost similar conditions) . Ind vs aus( teams win test matches even in away conditions different from home) . England loses badly to both india and Australia at their homes.

@shourjochaudhuri Ай бұрын

Tim Paine was saying Gabba not waca to ashwin

@factytop10s45 Ай бұрын

Border gavaskar trophy started in 1996

@sumitsarkar3148 Ай бұрын

Bigger in what metrics? In terms of quality of cricket BGT is much bigger than Ashes now. Even the most fervent supporter of Ashes in this argument would have to agree on that.