Which Shotgun Shell Will Pattern the Best??

[@mtec8743]

Like more patterning videos at 40 45 yards. And bb shot. Awesome video

[@cupchurch100]

Right, 25-30 yards doesn't tell us much.

[@arleneromero4632]

BobbyGuyFilms After your session on steel shoots did you check your Full choke for any damage to choke as in flaring or expansion of choke into your barrel threads and causing jamming or stuck in barrel needing to forceful removal and damage of threads too.

[@poorfatman5317]

Yeah Bobby do the video

[@levipuffer636]

I shoot the Winchester super X

[@patrickfullerton5746]

The reason federal kicks more is their wad, it’s not actually more powerful than anything else to speak of, and it patterns big, I don’t know why people use federal, it’s last resort Ammo for me

[@elliottmaas7229]

Bobby, just letting you know that I was the one that got you the Federals! :) I told my dad (a hunting website writer) to talk to the PR guy at Federal about sending you some ammo. I am glad my request worked out!

[@clivedutson]

hell ya we want more pattering mix up ckokes and shells love it!!!!

[@Christafro]

Federal Blue Box 2's all season long

[@jimmycady7373]

Would like to see the Kent fast steel 2.0 against the federal blue box with the carlsons MR choke

[@christcrusader9062]

Fiocchi is pronounced Fee Oh Kee It is Italian. Just like Pinocchio. The "CCH" is a hard 'K' sound.

[@Fugettaboutit]

Gnocchi

[@billremias7189]

Id like to see a pattern test between tungsten federal black cloud and winchester blind side

[@nickb8618]

Blindside blindsided me with it lack of penetration on birds

[@Shrapnel-tj3il]

@@nickb8618 That is the truth. I started off with blindside not knowing anything and they only birds that I knocked out of the sky were headshots or a shattered wing, nothing to the vitals. I finally gave up using it the day 3 times I shot at birds, knocked off feathers and had them keep on flying. It is obnoxious and unethical.

[@stevenhatfield6656]

Love the patterning videos! I would say to keep doing them and each time using 3 new types of shells! But another great video man! And the same shells with modified video would be great!k think after seeing the 3 side by side I would probably say for my preferance I would go with the federal. And my go to shells are Remington hyper sonic steel

[@ericbaumgartner5742]

you say the winchester was the lighter load but i actually was the heaviest load 1 1/4 compared to 1 1/5 and 1 1/8. It also is 1400 fps. What were the other 2 ? Seems like the cheaper ammo is more efficient

[@ImageLoX]

I know this would be more work but I’d like to see: 1) A 40 yard shot distance 2) With at least 3 shots each brand on new targets each time 3) On exactly a 30” target circle 4) If possible from a rest for consistency. Reason for all this is: 1) To get a comparable pattern percentage based on manufacturers testing. 2) To get an average. 3) See #1 4) Consistency to remove possible shooter movement. Obviously, this is for the viewer because you don’t need to pattern with the amount of birds you’ve brought down lol

[@dannyneal9713]

I’m not sure if you look at comments from older videos but this was a great!! I shoot the Winchesters. If I can make a suggestion is if you do a new video could you please do it where you shoot 3 times and what ever pattern best after 3 shots use that information as a comparison. Just a thought.

[@merlemast8313]

Definitely do the modified choke 20-40 yd 30” pattern

[@guybaxendale]

what on earth is the point of testing a full choke at 20 yards?!! Walk back another 25 yards and it might prove worthwhile

[@Bwanar1]

Well it does tell you, if your gun shoot to point of aim. But then even then he should be using a rest. Now if he was checking gun fit, he would need to move up 4yds. and shoot several shots from low gun mount pulling the trigger when the gun got to his shoulder.

[@guybaxendale]

@@Bwanar1 He is testing pattern not POI

[@Bwanar1]

@@guybaxendale He's "trying to"; actually not gaining any meaningful data from what he did. You can't test patterns with a single shot. It appears that his gun is shooting all over the place with different loads. Highly unlikely at that close a range. Could be aim. He could have alleviated that, at least if he had shot from a rest and taken human error out of the equation. You definitely can't test which load patterns best with the method he used. So many more variables and things to do.

[@guybaxendale]

@@Bwanar1 Agreed. kzbin.info/www/bejne/b3qki4qZh9WliLs

[@jedimasterjoe5386]

Idk due you live in line the falklands so you have no idea

[@simplesimon5399]

I started shooting fiocchi last year in my remington versamax, in a 3" 4 shot, and really like what it does! Patterned high on my firearm on paper with a mod choke so i adjusted my shot placement a smidge and havent looked back. I am actually quite impressed with how tight the winchester stayed on your paper... like you said, good and bad, good for those that can accurately shoot but bad for those that can't hit a clay!

[@pestka7151]

My go to loads

[@ODLid1]

Try the migra shells I shot the 2x4 load👍

[@dadfirstalways3578]

I used to use kent fasteel, now I need boxes and boxes I use fiocchi. But I'm like you I'm not tied to a brand, I don't have good patterns with super x out of my gun with my 2"over extended choke. They get weird after about 15 yards and unpredictable. Rio is another shell I have good luck with and they're affordable.

[@jakecargene6048]

Winchester all the way with the pattern. I use Winchester and field and stream this year and both put um down hard!

[@masonoutdoors5587]

Next time can you use Kent shells

[@rlpsystems]

Mason Outdoors Kent FastSteel. All day. Every day.

[@benjaminjackshepherd8929]

Bobby: based on your advice in other videos, I switched to using a full choke and am extremely pleased with the results. However, a buddy recently mentioned that shooting steel through a full could damage the barrel. Several internet sources said the same thing, but some disagree. Any thoughts. Like I said, I love using the full but don’t want to end up with major problems down the road

[@BeauDArcy]

Richard is correct, typically not supposed to shoot steel thru factory flush chokes IM and F. But the aftermarket chokes usually say you can push steel thru them even the tighter constrictions.

[@billdibrito5305]

Is one shot sufficient to draw a conclusion? Maybe 3 or 5? Also, I like a target larger than the desired pattern- it helps detect outlyers (total bb's - target impact counts).

[@tinysupreme6417]

Fee-oh-key?

[@ericweber7707]

Tiny Supreme yep! Chi = pronounced (key) in Italian 👏🏻

[@jacobbowlin848]

I did this a few weeks ago with my shotgun at 30 yards. I used a mid range cremator choke tube. Four of us shot different gun & choke configurations but hands down the best across the board was winchester drylok magnums. 3" 1400 fps 2 shot. The worst out of the 6 brands we tried was 3" rio 2 shot. It was terrible

[@deadcentermedia7765]

Your realistic an thats what counts. especially your take on the 3 1/2 12g shell if i go 3 1/2 i go to my ten gauge due to the over bore and it patterns way better.

[@thomasott196]

Do a video with mod choke and improved mod choke and full choke with steel shot to see what the best choke for 30 to 40 away

[@BobbyGuyFilms]

Will do

[@projectwisconsinoutdoors2911]

When you say full choke, do you mean full choke in the gun, or a modified choke with steel shot making it a full?

[@scot3972]

Wondering the same thing. A Cremator long range for that gun is .025 constriction which is Improved Mod. Did enjoy the video. Both of the Fiocchi loads shot low. You or the gun ?

[@alexcaron2335]

i think it's a paternmaster not a full i heard that you can't shoot steal with a full ..

[@owen5225]

I have a "steel shot choke" that is labeled as a full but has 3 notches which would make it a mod with lead shot

[@exilebear42]

@@alexcaron2335 if it is rated for steel then you can use a full choke.

[@lbgrtid]

I run a stoeger pump, stock full choke with Winchester X 3inch 2 shot. Love em!

[@alexanderconnour9680]

You should do a review on the boss shotgun ammo

[@marcwengert5615]

Hey Bobby I prefer the field and stream 1 1/8 of bb out of a mod choke. They pattern good and you can pick them up for $9 a box

[@nathanielburks4713]

The Field and Stream shells are great shells. If you look on the bottom of the box you'll see they are actually made by Fiocchi

[@spencerboone604]

Ive had good luck with the federal Speed shok but opt for the 11/4 oz load. 1 1/8 gets you another 100 fps but 1 1/4 still gets you 1450fps advertised and 154 pellets, the 1 1/8 is roughly 15-20 less pellets so a less dense pattern. Take a look at Monarch from academy @$8.99 for a box of 3" shells it is a good value and a hammer too. One more thing to note is that federal seals their waterfowl loads, both premium and budget lines, havent seen sealed shells from any others yet even on premium shells

[@prairietomoutdoors8360]

Yeah great video Bobby. I like patterning the shotguns. Lets see the Modified. Like to see at 40 yards also. To me 30 & 40 yards is where I like to pattern. I shoot a lot of different shells. The Remington nitro -steel #2 pattern real well in my Beretta a300 outlander as well as my Mossberg 835. I'm interested in trying the Winchester drylok. Heard good things about them, pattern tight at 40 yards.

[@rudyelizondo1935]

Yeah man do the video

[@018132]

FULL CHOKE AT 35-45 YARD #2-BB shot

[@tonyholland7140]

Love the vid Bobby! I think you should do the same w/ the Mod choke to see how much difference between the two chokes. I don't know where you are in your season, but maybe you could do a in field vid to see how the 3 loads perform. I have always been a Winchester or Federal guy myself, they just seem to shoot very well out of my guns. Currently I shoot a 1st gen. Benelli SBE. Winchester Blind Side 3" #2's

[@mikecaldwell1654]

Winchester dryloks , kent fast steel ,and Remington nitros

[@coltonstrain8455]

Do Kent fasteel 2.0 #4 vs boss #5 vs hevi steel #4. Do percentages on numbers of pellets. Keep up the good work bobby, love your videos!

[@bradenbird8484]

I shoot a pump Action And i know some semi Autos are picky with ammo but i do a lot of Squirrel and Rabbit Hunting and I shoot Remington Express Long Range 2 3/4 #4 shot out of my 12 gauge pump and everything i have shot has dropped at ranges out to 40 yards with a Modified Choke. Anything that didnt drop was my fault. Some Squirrels I Have shot have been in the tops of trees through thick brush and still folded them. I have also used Fiocchi #6 shot and had no issues, However number 6 seems to slightly less effective for some reason on rabbit and Squirrel in any shell brand I Have used.

[@pravoslavn]

You asked for Viewer Likes and Don't Likes, so here goes... I like it that you can think fast enough on your feet that you don't have to begin each sentence with an ignorant grunt, "UuuuHhhhh," like a lot of KZbin video makers. I REALLY appreciate this. What I don't like (in ANY KZbin) is being addressed as "You Guys." With that off my chest, thanks for being a good sport about it. Looking for your next video... You are an energetic presenter !

[@keeganmobley9031]

lol whoever says you need a 3.5" is wrong. I hunt ducks and Canadas with an old 870 that's 2 3/4 just fine. sure a bigger shell helps but is definitely not something you NEED.

[@BeauDArcy]

Bobby, are you worried about permanent hearing loss? You do a lot of hunting and shooting. Drop $100 on the Walker Silencer earbuds, or invest $500 on the Beretta version which is noticeably better. Or just throw in some foam plugs! Anything...

[@jasonlopez4855]

You need to use aguila ammo has a higher brass or more gunpowder than the rest of them. I only use eagle ammo Made in Mexico it works perfect in my AK12 gage rifle with full choke it pattern good. I don't see 👀 no video 📹 My under and over rilly likes aguila ammo 🤔

[@brianmica883]

I shoot the carlsons creamator chokes and so do my buddies and we noticed the ER actually blows open patterns in most guns. We all use the MR choke and consistantly kill ducks out to 45-50yards yards with 12 gauge and 35-40yards with 20gauge. We patterned all our guns at 20 and 40 yards and we all shoot benelli sbe and m2. Curious to see how your results would be with your franchi.

[@nakoawarrior3186]

I have a smaller point of aim,............then I aim carefully,......then I shoot. at both 20 yards and 30 yards. That's to see what the pattern is doing. Then at home I write Winchester on the target and place a dot on a sheet of glass and then I place it on my point of aim,..........then I look for the heaviest pattern,....and then I place an X there. Then I move the glass to where the X is on my point of aim,............then I look at the position of my dot. Then I know that when I place my bead 7 inches to the left and 3 inches low the bullseye is demolished. A picture is better. Like say a turkey's head. You mark the point of aim on the target for each gun,.........then you look at it each time you hunt with that gun. That's just what a hunter does so he don't waste shells and go home hungry,......also thats a sliding scale you must use kentucky windage/ know where to aim out to 50 yards. So that you can shoot at any range out to 50,.......because your point of aim changes. that means using a large piece of paper or cardboard at 50 yards to see how much the pattern drops at 50 yards. And thats just the beginning. Different parts of the USA different things to hunt. Ballistic Products sells components that give better pattern's too.

[@mikedupree832]

Neat Did the was make it to the paper. Would it be possible to draw rings from the center to determine the density distribution which would give a measure of pellets on target Maybe help explain your kills and help with aimming. Some gun makers say 60/40 pellets up/down again knowing might change your aim on target It's a combination that could define your kills

[@chriswhite3035]

Bobby , Not wanting to bore anybody but if you really want a really cool lesson in shotgun loads (AKA fowling gun). Look up black powder shotgun load basics. Before you had removable chokes you had to adjust your load to powder ratio to make a wider or a tighter pattern. Rule of thumb was 1 oz of powder to 1 oz of shot. More powder less shot was a wider spread due to power behind the load . Less powder to more shot made a closer pattern . So you adjusted you ratio to the size game you were hunting. I hope i explained this right . Anyway check it out for any shotgun hunter it is well worth it.

[@Bwanar1]

You realize every pattern is going to be different, right? You need to do several patterns (at least 3) and average the results to get any meaningful data. Even at that, it won't help anyone else. Each gun/choke combination is liable to shoot differently. Everyone should pattern their individual shotguns with the loads they have available and pick the ones that shoot best for their specific shotgun/choke combinations. Also pretty much any load is going to do the job at 20yds. Not a very practical distance and definitely not the right choke for that distance. More of a Cyl. to Skeet chock would serve you much better.

[@duckman5849]

Yeah Bobby if you didn’t know 12 gauges are loud. Why would you pattern a shotgun at 20 yards ? At that distance he dead ! that’s all that matters. The 40-45 patterns are what matters

[@jeff62327]

Hey Bobby do get any scoring or damage to your barrel firing steel shot ? I like Super X performance. I'm a fan of copper plated lead shot for small game . I'm not a waterfowl hunter yet . I've always wanted to hunt Canadian geese and always dreamed of a Grand Ol'Honker mount to display at home .

[@dustinreid597]

Don’t be silly people. You don’t need 3.5 inch. It is nice to have that option yes. I do for one have that option but 3 inch #2 shot for Canadian geese at 30 yards and boy old Fred will be running for a dead bird. That’s a promise.

[@merdog7179]

Cylinder bore 18 1/2 inch barrel with 3-inch federal speed shok Steel BB would be interesting

[@austinh9844]

set 3 targets out at 25 yards. shoot at them with brand A ,1 shot per target obviously . Then set 3 targets out at 40 yards and repeat. count up total number of pellets on each target and get the average number of pellets at 25 and 40 yards. Then move on to brand B. I did this before my duck season and the clear winner was Kent faststeel in 2s and 3s. Funny thing is I still missed a lot of birds!

[@dgoutdoorschannel]

Bobby I just bought some federal upland size 7.5 steel shotgun shells have u ever used them for doves?? they was 5.94 a box ?? New to the steel shot game so any advice

[@derekbeyers8804]

I had some for dove and actually shot 3 teal with them. They work great for $6 a box I'd limit shots to 30 yards on big ducks

[@dgoutdoorschannel]

@@derekbeyers8804 thanks for the advice and good hunting

[@jamescook9956]

I love your videos I watch some religiously but watching a patterning video from you is a waste of time because you are 100% biased towards federal because you are sponsored by them

[@davidsiskron2025]

How I can tell this is an older video. “Can just go to Walmart and pick them up” if you can find ammo anywhere these days you are lucky

[@nachowny]

make a video naming best shotgun that shoots those shells that you just finish naming in this video ....under $600 dollars....thanks

[@lorretaj]

I use a stoeger m2000 and a mid range Carlson cremator choke tube for 4 years now and Winchester 2 shot steel my killing ratio went up to 90 percent haven’t had a cripple yet

[@natetalarigo6210]

I’ve found federal blue box and Remington waterfowl loads work good in the ole benelii , sometimes I shoot the whinchester x but I’ve found they don’t pattern as good they still kill ducks and geese tho

[@benphillips50]

Dude i shoot a patternmaster codeblack goose which is the extended long rang with heavy shot heavy steel 3.5” #2. Heavy shot is fire bro you should try it if u have never shot and ill be suprised if u dont switch to it!

[@dougwilliams7401]

Wish you would of shot 1 1/4 oz Federal not 1 1/8 to be equal to the 1 1/4oz Winchester . Would of been different

[@BSmith-qt7ev]

Putting the Shotgun on a bag would eliminate your point of aim differential....but still a ln informative video!!

[@kevinAuman1]

My go-to is usually fiocchi low recoil 00-buck or I tend to go for the cheapest #6 shot that I can buy in bulk but if I am hunting with it then I make sure it has atleast got a long brass case then still #6 and bulk lol moral of the story it's a shotgun if you can't hit something with it then maybe it's time to hangup thee ol hunting jacket and put away the muck boots for good lol-ol-ol

[@sambriggs5636]

What happened to the masu mauri

[@Mark-mw8oe]

Yes, whatever did happen to your new shot gun. Did the masai Mara jam a lot?

[@taylorchristensen3164]

More pattering examining 3” vs 3.5” shells from the same brand, shot size, and speed

[@gregc247]

i hate the Xperts, they use trash steel in them, nothing but cripples, was forced to buy some last year in the shortage and it sucks as much as I remember

[@celestecorbett8519]

Greet Video! Thanks Just in time for our family fall skit shooting competition!

[@danielwhidden7946]

I run the pattern master full choke with the 3" super x #3 they smash the ducks. Way less crippled birds

[@davidprice7574]

Need a bigger pattern target and a rest. Winchester was the heaviest load not the lightest. I have Winchester for years mainly cause they work and I live in a town with one gun store and one Wal-Mart within 60 miles.

[@jasonlopez4855]

I would like to see 👀a video 📹 with aguila ammo 🤔 I've been using for the last few years.

[@craigminder5418]

Do the video with mod . I did it with mine and found at 55 yard with hevishot 2 everything was in a 30 inch circle with mod and with ER it was more flyers or open .

[@masonstubblefield5287]

Bobby I have a affinity franchi and I use three inch shells to down honkers and I’m ten years old I already have two down you just have to make a good shot

[@JimmyVnext]

Great video. Would like to see 3 shots from each type of shell all from 30 yards. Might have a difference within each brand.

[@GallowayFamilyOutdoors]

Thank you, good to know what shells pattern like. What choke tube do you use the most duck and goose hunting?

[@JeramyMinor]

Hey Bobby it would be pretty cool if you did a video on some of your favorite duck & goose recipes.

[@justinhampton7007]

Mix up the chokes and different shells and is there really a difference between shells like hevi shot and black cloud vs like super x and say another cheaper one Kent fast steel

[@boblawrence37]

Go to shell for decoying and pass shooting ducks is Heavy Metal. Best bang for the big hit

[@bowhunter2008140]

Hey Bobby, in my opinion I think that the better one was winchester just because of the tighter pattern and less opt to wound the bird.

[@benjaminairguns4455]

Just because you do it in your gun dosant mean it's going to pattern the same in my gun unless we have the same gun obs. But still a good video. I have shot with a long range choke 3 inch shells and they actually pattern pretty good but i love my field and streams

[@mooseemeier]

Doesn’t matter what the fuck load you’re shooting it doesn’t matter what gun you shoot. You’re either on the target or your not. I shot cheap hi brass 5s or 4s for everything I do. Practice is the key. Youre either on the birds or you’re not

[@bowhunterspokane]

I've shot Winchester super Xs forever and they do fantastic turkeys and ducks.

[@arleneromero4632]

lol just noticed I was on my wife account my name is Luc Romero lol anyways so also how many shoots did you make fly downrange of steel in the full choke. Thanks

[@davidjones6557]

Just a suggestion, take a foot ruler mark a cross + then you can have a closer idea how the pattern holds to the center and within the 12 inch radius.

[@dalt1020]

You should test Kent bismuth 3” 2 shot vs. federal black cloud 3” 2 shot

[@benclay8689]

Here in the UK I use gamebore clear pigeon 30 gram no 6 and for duck I use gamebore super steel 32 grams no5

[@albertovasquez800]

I think a Larger Sheet of paper each time to really see the outside stragglers that hit beyond the paper you have...

[@scottferree7227]

I would like to see more with Turkey shells

[@richiecaelwarts7873]

I shoot hevi shot great stuff in all my guns Kent fast steel is also great I tried the new Kent bismuth shells that stuff kills ducks out there just a little rich for this guy number three shot seemed to pattern the best in all of them all in three inch except the bismuth that was 2,34

[@MartellOutdoors]

Were you shooting the Federal 1550 fps or 1450 FPS?

[@wvoutdoortv7851]

Looking to get into duck hunting and goose hunting this year what semi auto shotgun would you recommend for the starting to not break the bank?

[@bryanheimann5370]

Pattern video like. Comment make algorithm good. More videos please :)

[@schottiey]

Can you pattern some Remington hypersonic #2? Also it nice to see my gut feeling choice for a choke is the same one you use.

[@Oc3anb0rn]

Our walmarts here in Indiana are carrying federal top flight shells

[@criticaltimes8607]

Newbee can you shoot steel pellet shells and steel slugs with any shotgun and what chokes can you use or do you have to have a special barrel on your shotgun for steel shells

[@deadcentermedia7765]

Awesome channel dude love it. been following you for a while now.

[@BobbyGuyFilms]

Glad you enjoy man it’s a blast being able to do this

[@commonmanhomestead]

00 buck with full choke 45 yards

[@jamesbowene9153]

Use plastic milk bottles to pattern your shot give u a better idea for ducks

[@Monam-qp8it]

Why don't you use choke comes with the gun from the factory

[@NorCalFarmboy]

I still hammer birds with Super X 4 Shot 2-3/4”