Which Size of Tiny Whoop Is Best? 65mm vs 75mm? - FPV Questions

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[@crash_lander]

I think 75mm is better even on 1s as it can carry a bigger battery, better camera and fly longer and more stable with 40mm props. The new happymodel mobula7 elrs version has changed the game completely.

[@CiottiFPV]

Why does the ability to carry a bigger battery and better camera (not really sure this is true with how good the Runcam Nano 3 is) make a 75 better? The flight characteristics of the 65’s are much better indoors where tiny whoops are flown

[@EarthWalkerOne]

@@CiottiFPV I can fly my 75 outside no problems. 65 feels like it barely handles AC being on inside. Longer flight times are always better unless you just hate flying lol

[@CiottiFPV]

@@EarthWalkerOne you know that you can buy more than one battery right? Run time doesn’t matter as long as you get more than 2ish minutes, it’ll a tiny whoop so you’ll never do anything long range requiring a single battery that lasts 5+ minutes and the lighter weight of a smaller battery improves the flight performance which is important for those of us that fly hard, check out my whoop Wednesday live streams to see what I mean, it’s blindingly obvious

[@rehepeks]

@@CiottiFPV What about hdzero builds? Its a bit heavier and might fly better on 75mm?

[@CiottiFPV]

@@rehepeks a 75mm hd zero build would have more thrust for sure to deal with the extra 4 grams but it’ll also be heavier making it harder to fly accurately indoors which is what IMO tiny whoops are for

[@MCsCreations]

You definitely should try the new Mobula 7, Joshua. 😬

[@PadiwanFPV]

75mm all day for freestyle, but 65mm is definitely better for racing

[@CiottiFPV]

Check out my whoop Wednesday stream from yesterday for a blindingly obvious example of 65 being much better for hard freestyle

[@flipfpv]

That may have been true a few years ago, but a lot has changed and some of the new lite 75mm whoops are really impressive. I agree that the 65mm is still more agile for racing on tight tracks, but a similar (or same) setup on a 75mm frame with 40mm props is really awesome. Much faster, smoother, quieter and with considerably longer flight times.

[@scu-dub]

JB PLEASE TRY THE MOB 7 1S ELRS!!!! I had an awesome time with it being my first whoop for 4 packs until I lost my gyro 😭 but it flew like a butterfly lol and when I toilet tanked the battery it flew even better IMO 👍🏽✌🏽

[@BimoWicaksono]

I vote for 75mm 1S, because it's small enough, fly great with adequate flight time

[@noramas.]

Not agree 😀

[@pgabrieli]

couldn’t disagree more. the new mobula 7 75mm 1S with ELRS is so much better for me. 65mm are too twitchy for me, I have both the mobula 6 (normal and HD), and the meteor 65. I fly mostly outside, though

[@scu-dub]

OMG!!!! LOL man I was just about to say that I wish JB would've tried the new mob7 1s lol I got mine a month ago and it was my first whoop and I ABSOLUTELY LOVED IT! it flew on rails and it flew even better when I toilet tanked the battery! However I had a faulty gyro and now it's done after only 4 packs😫 so I'm looking into getting another one and at least I will have spare parts lol but I fly outside also and I don't think the 65mm would fly as good as 75mm the mob71s elrs is an amazing whoop 👍🏽✌🏽

[@pgabrieli]

@@scu-dub agree! just buy a replacement flight controller, certainly cheaper. I'm considering updating mine to 1002 RCInPower 19000KV motors

[@scu-dub]

@@pgabrieli that sound like a good upgrade 👍🏽

[@balajiprasad9046]

65mm 1S is excels at indoor flying as it is very agile. 75 mm 1S excels at outdoor flights and for some light freestyle. 75mm 2S is strictly outdoors only

[@pgabrieli]

unlike what people say, 65mm is NOT a beginner's platform, though. I was completely frustrated trying to learn to fly one indoors. got a 75mm 1S outdoors and I finally started to learn how to fly

[@balajiprasad9046]

@@pgabrieli True 65mm is not easy to fly at tight indoors.

[@nebraskahuskers3573]

So the Tinyhawk is no good? 75mm all the way

[@airdevil21]

No definitely not agreeing. The mobula 75 1 s is flying way better than a 65 and I fly it mostly outside.

[@bbsheppo]

Sorry Josh but you're wrong on this one, at the end of the day it's just preference.

[@bjimx]

Bardwell wrong? 65 mm has its place but once I started flying 75 mm it changed how I felt about 1S quads. 75mm is now my favorite build for backyard flying. maybe it's not officially a tiny whoop but it's more fun for me to fly and longer flight times. and don't get me started on Miata, is that even a car who drives those?

[@avasianfpv]

65 for the winnnnnnn in general I always prefer the 65mm feel:) some people say it’s under powered and bad flight times. I just say watch me rip🤘🏼😝😂

[@sweetpoison4228]

I have the mob8 and i absolutely love it, its small and powerful

[@definingslawek4731]

Is converting my moblite 7 into a moblite 6 as easy as getting a smaller frame and props? Or are the motors or something else different?

[@stelic9515]

I see coments about performance. How about endurance? I want to buy mobula7 1s elrs, the motors are great except they don't have ball bearings, they have bushes so I don't know what to do. Meteor 85 have 1102motors that have ball bearings and spin slower but heavier. So what do you think. What is more durable and cheaper to maintain?

[@boominfree7408]

Speaking of mob 6 I updated to bf 4.3 and now the vtx settings are messed up I tried the table from happy model but no dice Crazy we F4FRlite board it’s stuck in pit mode

[@doc_ineeda_win5834]

Hate to disagree but my 65 1s swapped to a 1s 75 frame and the bigger blades made so much more responsive longer flights.. but Ty for vid checked it out before I bought but went ahead and bought 75 frame and props

[@1337plans]

Hahahaahhahaahhaa 😂😂😂😂😂 Bardwell is awesome!

[@timn4481]

75mm allows you to use 40mm props and the larger the prop, the better the performance, period. its more electrically efficient and more powerful and aerodynamically responsive and efficient. itll be more agile and fly for longer than a 65mm frame that uses 31mm or 35mm props. a 75mm will be more agile, period. all of the comments here are subjective opinion and not based on fact. if you have more power and more efficiency then the only other factor is the dynamics of having an extra 10mm of motor spacing. its across the diagonal so the actual size difference is absolutely minimal and the extra power and torque on the centre of gravity from a 40mm prop hugely outweighs the extra moment needed to change direction. the only factor that favours the 65mm is that it fits easier into the gates, so you can have more margin for error. thats it.

[@TorontoFPV]

Watson ur fav 40mm prop?

[@user-yk1cw8im4h]

You know what? A 3inch is better, period.

[@JekleFPV]

I got the Mob7 anyway cuz it comes with HDzero, not realizing the Mob6 was also about to be launched with HDzero 😆

[@Chris-xe5ts]

75mm all day. 75mm flies so much better than 65mm. So much more stable and less underpowered.

[@my1little2pony]

I'm still loving my old hx100 for indoor with 1s 550 65mm prop I get 13 minutes of cruising around my house and if I throw a 300mah on it rips

[@monami5201]

Old timer rejoinder to hobby, can you tell me please what does Whoop stand for, I have no idea. Many thanks.

[@FPVian]

I feel like 75 will be better for HDZero because of the added weight

[@nategoodwin3329]

It is, I've built 3 so far.

[@LalapopApple]

1:25 Yeah it is, gotta laught so hard on this one. Thanks for ur viewpoint 👍

[@cometarm6757]

Hi Why do I lose video signal when I turn on the remote? How can i fix that

[@bugsy742]

What are you flying mate?

[@cometarm6757]

@@bugsy742 mobula 6 1900kv

[@bugsy742]

@@cometarm6757 ah for a second I thought I could help 😮 My bad 🤜🏻🤛🏻

[@JackalFPV]

75mm is easier to tune or fly better right of the bat. More power, more stability. Even on 1S. Walksnail on 1S doesnt work well on a 65mm, more punch with a 75mm.

[@doccock100]

Many people are missing what the question is. Sometimes people confuse the premise. Tiny whoop means a specific thing, indoor agile and fast around an indoor track. He is not saying that 65mm is more fun to fly than a 75mm or that 65mm is better outside than a 75mm or 65mm has more Acro ability. In the same way a Miata (?mx5) has a specific remit, small, rear-wheel drive, light with specific feedback characteristics whilst driving. Giving it a bigger engine doesn't make it better, but that is not saying that a 911 with all the extra power isn't a better car. The more changes you make to the 65mm design the more you start making it into something else. Would changing the 65mm frame for a 5 inch, then uprating the motors to give appropriate power to weight, then upgrading the ESC to handle the amps, then giving it a bigger battery to maintain flight time... would that make it a better quad... yes... but its not a tiny whoop.

[@user-yk1cw8im4h]

well said, being stable isn’t even a characteristic that true tiny whoopers after

[@alexellistattoofpv]

If you think a Miata is perfect it’s no wonder you prefer the 65 lol 😅

[@pgabrieli]

if you had ever driven one on tight twisty back-roads, you'd understand why it is

[@BubbyFPV]

JB TALKIN STRAIGHT FAX

[@Sugalime3D_FPV]

Does even 55 mm tiny whoops exist ?

[@TheDjFac]

Just look Infinity Loops channel and admit their 75mm 1s freestyle control indoor is way more consistent than the majority of 65mm pilots out there… size doesn’t matter bros but 75mm 1s is definitely better for freestyle. Period

[@SeanPitts]

Oh man the Miata comparison! Love it. Balance!

[@TheDjFac]

Some people based their channel on 65mm tinywhoop experiences thus I understand they will defend this platform no matter what. But man, look around, freestyle whoop = 75mm whoop

[@DroneOn]

I respectfully disagree. Nothing better for whoop freestyle than 75mm.

[@spectrexfpv]

the miata analogy is just so perfect.

[@floppy_fingers]

love yuh josh but this is why you're the tech expert and not the flight feel expert. my g-mah flys whoops harder than you ;)

[@samcarmel6975]

75-85 isn’t even a tiny whoop in my book.