Which Support To Pick In Overwatch 2 & Why!

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@Rhylla1
@Rhylla1 2 жыл бұрын
Good grief is it nice to see an Overwatch content creator actually giving positive advice for every hero, not dogging on characters they might not like, and remembering that Overwatch brought in a lot of non-FPS people by making characters that aren't sweaty but still effective.
@SoftNapkins
@SoftNapkins 2 жыл бұрын
I started overwatch because of the characters! I was pretty anxious, but really wanted to play! I mained Moira/Mercy for 10-30 hours. Once I became experienced, I branched out a bit into Ana, Bap, Zen, etc I really enjoy the game now, and appreciate that I had a few picks I could rely on while learning!
@josep4549
@josep4549 2 жыл бұрын
I started OverWatch because of characters like torbjorn, Brigitte, and Reinhardt. I like the fact that my strategy could outplay opponents even if they are twitchy sweaty FPS nerds
@arthurporter131
@arthurporter131 2 жыл бұрын
Mercy player alert mercy player alert
@Rhylla1
@Rhylla1 2 жыл бұрын
@@arthurporter131 Yep. My top 5 are Mercy, Zarya, Orisa, Ana, and Mei in that order.
@Aselia-q6w
@Aselia-q6w 2 жыл бұрын
It is a breath if fresh air indeed
@SageKStroke52
@SageKStroke52 2 жыл бұрын
Coming from an R6 background, I've found Baptiste to be the most fun hero for me. I can lay down some damage while also being a healer
@pixel7038
@pixel7038 2 жыл бұрын
R6? What is that?
@lune-3214
@lune-3214 2 жыл бұрын
@@pixel7038 rainbow 6
@vg9564
@vg9564 2 жыл бұрын
Dude, same.
@michaelpurdon7032
@michaelpurdon7032 2 жыл бұрын
Great choice, he's a beast. Really use those exo-boots for really engaging gameplay
@JJ_loves_JP
@JJ_loves_JP 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who’s burnt out from R6. I agree with you. Also Soldier is a good pick for attack
@SpectreAdept
@SpectreAdept 2 жыл бұрын
0:30 Ana 2:13 Baptiste 3:22 Brigitte 4:18 Kiriko 5:37 Lucio 6:35 Mercy 7:34 Moira 8:40 Zenyatta
@flippyfolder4374
@flippyfolder4374 2 жыл бұрын
cyrus 💀 not being mean or anything i hope
@milesbanks3078
@milesbanks3078 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@noahjordan6761
@noahjordan6761 Жыл бұрын
@@flippyfolder4374 ikr like what?
@kotaunknown
@kotaunknown Жыл бұрын
Mines Kiriko and Brig😩
@avalanche6871
@avalanche6871 2 жыл бұрын
Loving Kiriko as someone who plays a lot of Genji, Lucio, and Zen already, but those headshots are always a test of even well-practiced aim
@aaronhall9375
@aaronhall9375 2 жыл бұрын
@q scam
@SonnyVA
@SonnyVA 2 жыл бұрын
but oh man oh man when they hit, its the nicest sound and feeling lol
@soccerburn552
@soccerburn552 2 жыл бұрын
For climbing out of the lower ranks I feel like Moira is the best option right now. With Genji being so mobile with a high pick rate she is great to counter him since your grasp is not affected by reflect. At the higher ranks maybe not the best but if you need to get out of your soft MMR reset with people who say in chat "I'm whittling away the Rein shield with bastion, that's my job" this will help you get out of that pit.
@thrilllight
@thrilllight 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, climbed through bronze and silver playing Moira (plat 2 now). You can get away with being super aggressive at lower ranks.
@x0gucx
@x0gucx 2 жыл бұрын
Moira is also the easiest to play on a controller since aiming doesn't really matter. can easily get the highest DPS and healing out of the group with her specials as well in my opinion having one of the best group heals and bombs in enclosed areas.
@jacobwiles7729
@jacobwiles7729 2 жыл бұрын
100%, coming from ow1 floating around high plat/low diamond, and got put into bronze after my placements. Tried to play supports logically with the team comp and I just started to lose my mind with bronze dps players. Picked up Moira and started rocketing out of bronze and silver and almost back to Plat. Its kind of silly how aggressive you can play with her. I'll kind of miss playing aggressive dps Moira after the low ranks once I start going up against competent dps that can punish me being out of position and playing overly aggressive
@mugoftea1739
@mugoftea1739 2 жыл бұрын
just curious, what is wrong with making reins life hell by destroying his shield on sight?
@studiosoundguy
@studiosoundguy 2 жыл бұрын
Agree went from bronze 5 to nearly bronze 3, Moria is deadly
@TheNagetti
@TheNagetti 2 жыл бұрын
You explained Moira really well imho. I've noticed that at least in lower skill games my own DPS players are often problematic because they don't pick the right characters or are simply incapable of killing enemy players. So then I have to count on myself as Moira to go get the enemy team backline out of the way. At least then my team can usually 4v3 if I get 2 of their supports out of the game or at least disrupt their team enough to make a difference. Seems that other comments view her the same way. I feel like she will probably be the best support to carry yourself with if your team is underperforming.
@pattongilbert
@pattongilbert 2 жыл бұрын
That’s exactly how I feel picking her sometimes. If I feel my team is playing poorly, I just think “Well. It’s time to carry now.”😂
@jdunlapmusic
@jdunlapmusic Жыл бұрын
Yep! Putting out insane healing and damage, topping the team in kills if they're underperforming. Eating up or full healing tanks with orb.
@Coachteach
@Coachteach 2 жыл бұрын
I loved seeing the Lucio speed boost effect demonstrated. So hard to tell that kind of impact in my low elo gamers
@reeeeeeeee9676
@reeeeeeeee9676 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah but I’m low elo games your rein just sits in choke wasting shield without pressing W. Even if you boost
@Coachteach
@Coachteach 2 жыл бұрын
@@reeeeeeeee9676 oh yes, that's why I never see this in my games haha
@val26874
@val26874 2 жыл бұрын
Love pairing Lucio with Mei to just wall a spot off before the first fight even starts.
@anthonyanderson9771
@anthonyanderson9771 Жыл бұрын
I love it. If it's a close call, being able to roll out back across the map in seconds to stall for the team is priceless and underrated. Won't make play of the game but have saved two games this weekend on that alone. Of his shot was a bit faster I'd be satisfied.
@dyproxus1806
@dyproxus1806 2 жыл бұрын
For me, it’s a map by map basis. Long open areas call for Ana. Areas with lists of tunnels and twists call for a Moira’s maneuverability. Anything with high vantage points screams Baptiste for better top down aim with healing grenades.
@littlejoe6991
@littlejoe6991 Жыл бұрын
As a zen main I am very happy with how you described him. I get a lot of backlash due to not having high heals but people have to understand zen is a support not a medic. And I think it’s funny when I have more damage then the dps and tank on my team.
@thuydungie
@thuydungie Жыл бұрын
main reason why i hate when people call supports “healers”. zen has an amazing kit and discord orbs enables dps to do much more damage too. sometimes it feels like they see supports as one type of hero
@mariustan9275
@mariustan9275 6 ай бұрын
I mean people play supports to heal. Everykne gets angry at dps moiras and anas for this reason. ​@@thuydungie
@deadhelix
@deadhelix 2 жыл бұрын
Im trying to find good bite sized videos for my new friends that can explain the characters on each role well and this vid is perfect. I hope you make one for the other roles
@Cowlina
@Cowlina 2 жыл бұрын
This!!
@khangvo9512
@khangvo9512 2 жыл бұрын
Man I love Lucio, one of the more underrated and yet super strong in the right hand. Wall riding can save your life and even save the game by constant circling the objective until teammate come.
@GoatOfWar
@GoatOfWar 2 жыл бұрын
He's fucking boring though
@franchise5527
@franchise5527 2 жыл бұрын
Best Healer
@kaizokuAUTO
@kaizokuAUTO 2 жыл бұрын
He also has some insane rollouts
@franchise5527
@franchise5527 2 жыл бұрын
@@GoatOfWar How is the best movement character in Overwatch boring ? Please explain..
@GoatOfWar
@GoatOfWar 2 жыл бұрын
@@franchise5527 Because maybe not everyone likes playing the same things? I'm a support main and i don't like playing Lucio. I prefer Ana, Zen and Kiriko.
@JasonfromEarth
@JasonfromEarth 2 жыл бұрын
I love Mercy's new movement. It's so much more consistent (for me). I am so much more survivable.
@TheSuperSayahMan
@TheSuperSayahMan 2 жыл бұрын
mercy's movement isn't new mercy mains have been able to superjump for years it was just a really hard tech to learn as it was essentially a bug exploit but im happy riot made it something anyone can do and not something people like myself can do by spending hours perfecting a random tech :)
@liammeigs4815
@liammeigs4815 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheSuperSayahMan Blizzard*
@JasonfromEarth
@JasonfromEarth 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheSuperSayahMan Yeah I've been a Mercy main since the start pretty much (Played Medic on TF2). I could superjump but it was nowhere near as reliable as it is now. I can 100% of the time get to high ground to escape dive, abilities, etc. I'm not super high rank either so staying mobile in the air (at my rank) makes me hard to hit.
@mystic865
@mystic865 2 жыл бұрын
It's the same as before..
@coppagh8040
@coppagh8040 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheSuperSayahMan The super jump has always been around but the backwards jump you can do byjumping and moving backwards after your ga is fairly new no? I have only ever done that two or three times in ow1 by getting caught on objects
@darksplash873
@darksplash873 2 жыл бұрын
Watched this vid with like 4+ years experience of ow, still enjoyed it a ton. I already know that I'm more of a flex support player due to their bloodthursty nature, especially loving bap for carrying me to plat but also starting to play a lot more ana after that point, but recently started falling in love with lucio - his crazy mobility and his dual nature of enabling the team or just slaying the enemy yourself is something I just love. Brig's patient and defensive playstyle also is decently enjoyable for me and I've always enjoyed just sometimes whipping out the mercy and pocketing a friend on dps xD Guess I'm an all around flex player so I never really found my "one true support" hero or even role, and honestly I don't feel the need to, but this video definitely summarizes the different heroes in their playstyle, uniqueness and required skillsets.
@Music4Marc
@Music4Marc 2 жыл бұрын
This is THE best, well-structured, well-explained video on Overwatch 2 Supports so far. First time I come across your channel as a new OW2 player. Liked & subbed. Keep it up man!
@avivharel4055
@avivharel4055 2 жыл бұрын
Love this type of educational content!!! Even as a longtime overwatch player you can always hone your knowledge a little more
@TheGamingDandy
@TheGamingDandy 2 жыл бұрын
This was honestly the best Overwatch "coaching" video I've ever seen, and I watch a ton of them. Reason being, you're actually showing the act of what you're describing when you're describing it. Other videos like this just have unrelated footage of their games going while discussing tactics. So it's more distracting than anything. I'm watching the game going on, so I'm missing what they're actually saying. Anyway, good job.
@tired9398
@tired9398 2 жыл бұрын
I know Kiriko is brand new, but her Kunai are so fun to play with and her healing is as simple as it gets. Swift step and the Shimada wall climb ability is excellent too. Similar to Tracer or Moira in a way, she can flank and deal heavy damage and immediately escape, but unlike Moira or Tracer, can be a vital asset to the team with the cleanse and her ult can change the course of a fight instantly.
@30ajgo
@30ajgo 2 жыл бұрын
Her swift is good but heavy damage my butt.
@tired9398
@tired9398 2 жыл бұрын
@@30ajgo Idk, you can one-tap a tracer and with well placed headshots any DPS not paying attention is easy to kill, and a preoccupied tank is an easy target too. It takes maybe 5 or 6 hits to finish off a tank who's already taken some damage and you can delete healers on their backline and then teleport. I think she's pretty damaging
@30ajgo
@30ajgo 2 жыл бұрын
@@tired9398 yeah pretty, but not heavy. Supports other than mercy can do way more damage than her. That’s is assuming she can even get a headshot on everyone without resistance.
@LiterallyPaulGeorge
@LiterallyPaulGeorge 2 жыл бұрын
@@tired9398 you can’t one tap tracer they’ll still have 30 health. It will make them have to recall immediately however
@tired9398
@tired9398 2 жыл бұрын
@@LiterallyPaulGeorge within melee range, a head-shot followed immediately with a melee attack is plenty to one tap tracer if she comes too close, which happens frequently when fighting a tracer since her weapons suck unless she's really close to her target
@john-paul3271
@john-paul3271 2 жыл бұрын
I usually main Moira, but lately I have been pumping out huge heals with Brig. Easily one of my best healer right now.
@ClaraBennett
@ClaraBennett 2 жыл бұрын
Of the multi-target support abilities, it seems like Brig’s Inspire has transitioned the most smoothly to OW2. The fairly large range, and the fact that it follows players for so long (nerfed from 6 to 5s, but still), seem to have made it such that the wider team formations didn’t negatively affect her healing output that much.
@TheBeatBen
@TheBeatBen 2 жыл бұрын
Great breakdown! A few things for each hero that wasn't mentioned. The basic idea of my thoughts are based on that Overwatch is about counter picks. List is: - Ana. You still need to heal your tank. Especially if it's Reinhardt, or DVA, for example. They needs a lot of healing. Just imagine you have DPS Moira or Lucio on your team. - Baptist. His E is awesome to counter devastating ultimates like Junkrat tire or DVAs ult. - Brig. Can play a role of initiator with her ultimate aswell as Kiriko or Anna for example. - Kiriko. IDK lol. Seems she's all rounder. Just puck her in 100% times when you have Queen or Hog on your team. - Lucio. His ultimate is awesome. You can counter crazy party wipe setup like Anna + Genji. Consider to pick him if you are getting ripped by some destructive ultimates from the enemy team. - Mercy. She can res. :) - Moira. Strong one. But hold your DPS meter at bay. Cuz. you can easily get distracted by damage dealing instead of healing in critical moments. Her ultimate has more healing then damage potential. Consider it. - Monk. He has fast self regen and THE kick (his melee) to push away enemies. He isn't that easy pick you can think of. He's ult also should be considered as great counter tool. Are you struggling against Reaper and no-one can stop him in his ult cuz you are low rank player or its qp? Use his ult and get these discords on tanks and carry your team! Thanks for reading. Cheers.
@Riku-Leela
@Riku-Leela 2 жыл бұрын
Not to mention that mercy has the Glock which if you know when to use you can pull off some great plays with it. Often people ignore it completely when, especially in OW2, there are many opportunities to use it and pop off a little. Mercy is an angel but with a little devil inside who needs to be satiated sometimes
@chuchubag
@chuchubag 2 жыл бұрын
The thing I love about OW2 right now is that every support seems to be viable! Personally I've been enjoying a lot Zen and Kiriko if the need to make plays and picks arises. Meanwhile, Mercy got a huge win in the mobility department! It's exhilarating diving in with your Sombra and Winston thanks to her ability to be even more erratic! They either focus fire the Winston / Sombra who will just get healed, or focus on you which is kind of a bad idea since they're getting terrorized anyway --- either way the target pretty much dies quickly thanks to damage boost!
@gentlemattman
@gentlemattman 2 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this video, SVB! I'm very excited for the Damage hero video, and how certain heroes have different roles in OW2 (compared to OW1). Keep up the great work!
@noahmansland3301
@noahmansland3301 2 жыл бұрын
im a filthy zen one trick, returning after having played from the opening to s3. and man, his kick feel so much better, honestly it make almost all dps 1v1 winnable without that much difficulty funnilly enough this hero is not the most aim heavy because it is a projectile witha generous hitbox and not a hitscan what's annoying is how flank heavy the meta is, there is just nothing you can do if a tank decide that you are dead
@dr.brightside113
@dr.brightside113 2 жыл бұрын
Zen is a throw pick if they have a good genji and/or tracer + Dva/Winston. I hate having a Zen this season, as they tend to suck and die immediately.
@RyanReynolds42069
@RyanReynolds42069 2 жыл бұрын
@@dr.brightside113 zen isn't the throw, zen is currently the best support in the game for his kit being so loaded in ow2
@firstnamelastname9237
@firstnamelastname9237 2 жыл бұрын
I really don’t like just how much flanking there’s been. It does get pretty irritating.
@dr.brightside113
@dr.brightside113 2 жыл бұрын
I agree and disagree XD. He is not the best support. He is good, not the best. The meta is hurting him. On top of that, MOST players (specially below diamond) don't know how to dps or discord w him. In the end you have 0 DPS and 0 healing.
@noahmansland3301
@noahmansland3301 2 жыл бұрын
@@dr.brightside113 i mean, with the new kick then does deal with genji pretty fine tbh, tracer is somewhat of a skill matchup as just 1 head+kick and she is either dead or forced to back away. but yes, any tank with mobility will make your game absolute hell, much more than any dps can. And with how divey the meta it is true that sometime games are hard to play because unlike with dps you have no counterplay to a dva double booping you also, with how active support are in ow2 zen tend to have quite good healing score by the end the game.
@retrorevival1
@retrorevival1 2 жыл бұрын
The best thing about playing Zen and only Zen is how quickly you get hit with the "warning, you have been marked with "AVOID AS TEAMMATE" status by a considerable number of players" =D
@Robopi3.14
@Robopi3.14 2 жыл бұрын
how is that good? that just means ur toxic/a bad teammate
@talialevi2723
@talialevi2723 2 жыл бұрын
I've been playing a lot of Bap, and as a total newbie to OW I've been having a blast!
@cloudydayss
@cloudydayss 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing video! For a new player like me the information is very useful, easy to understand, and concise. Deserves a sub
@doc7180
@doc7180 2 жыл бұрын
SVB I've been watching your content for a few years now. Thank you for all of your hard work.
@Knux865
@Knux865 2 жыл бұрын
Love the in game action as you explain each hero. Highly detailed and very informative. Good video 👍🏻
@kgonzi868
@kgonzi868 2 жыл бұрын
New to OW entirely and I'm playing support with Zen. He feels so good and like u said incredibly clutch at times. With his discord orb and damage from far tight angles I often end up with the most assists in my games. Currently getting a lot of value from him but want a second support main in those cases where I'm sleeping in the selection screen and my random teammate takes zen lol
@postyoda
@postyoda 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice, to the point and informative. Keep up the good work.
@voixlavoix
@voixlavoix 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks SVB, super informative, entertaining and professionally made content :) Have a great day!
@DaRkLoRd-rc5yu
@DaRkLoRd-rc5yu 2 жыл бұрын
I actually love all these hero's they're so cool and different from one another. And the balancing of them is great.
@Bluemansonic
@Bluemansonic 2 жыл бұрын
Dude, this is by far your best tutorial video EVER, please make more for Tank then DPS
@benjaminkinsey3000
@benjaminkinsey3000 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks svb! I really like brig-one of the only ones that can be super clutch without a ton of skill
@StevenSmith33
@StevenSmith33 2 жыл бұрын
This is a great summary and break from other content out right now. Looking forward to the next one and loving the format!
@audiojack5641
@audiojack5641 2 жыл бұрын
I've been having good Moira games recently, getting equal damage and healing with a pretty good kd/a
@blackomega34
@blackomega34 2 жыл бұрын
I think for casuals and noobs, Kiriko is a poor 'DPS Support', so I'll just explain how I see her in a silver lobby context: She is main healer viable, her healing per second is high so you should be leaning on it heavily and using the rest of her kit including kunai deliberately and judiciously. Kiriko is not like Baptiste who wants to spit out healing and keep his gun blazing simultaneously. As Kiriko you want to identify targets that you think you have a decent chance of headshotting, and even landing a single one on like a sniper or something will cause them to run away, making your job as a healer easier. (Kiriko has a 3x headshot multiplier on her kunai that otherwise do terrible damage) Her cleanse doesn't just apply immunity to CC; it also makes allies invulnerable for 0.75 seconds. If you have high health and your enemy has spent half of their magazine, you can use it to make sure they can't kill you before they need to reload; great for duelling and gives you an opportunity to stand still and attempt a headshot. Speaking of deliberate and judicious, she should be taking aggressive positions and off-angles when fights are not ensuing and then use her teleport to regroup with the team once fights break out. In settings she should swap kunai and healing to M1 and M2 respectively because it's easier to aim with, and healing ofudas should be toggle to throw all of them in a single click instead of holding to release more because you need to focus your attention on headshot/cleanse opportunities and not looking for reasons to conserve a resource that you fully regenerate in less than a second. Pros believe you should disable the toggle to regulate your healing output but this saves split-seconds that are not critical in casual/ranked play compared to the alternative benefit I propose.
@chrisandrews397
@chrisandrews397 2 жыл бұрын
At least for season 1 I've become a total Baptiste main. His Regen burst and raw DPS/HPS is INSANE. During OW1 I never really gave him much mind and preferred brig and Moira, but Baptiste has quickly become my most played hero post launch, and already gotten me to a higher rank than I ever got in OW1
@Yodaswag
@Yodaswag 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid. Noticed you didn't mention immortality field and res. And the general Idea behind defensive and offensive support ults (which is very relevant for lower ranks). Often time if you're playing ana mercy, you'll be caught without a good defensive ult. and if it's attack payload on overtime, you really want something to help your team survive past the onslaught of ults the enemy place on you. I really like the bap mercy combo for defense when the enemy has a significant spawn advantage because your teams life is much more valuble than their kills. I often want a mercy on my team as a tank because she's a good hero and if a dps goes on a bad angle and dies, she just res's and we are not at a number disadvantge. Then I often prefer a main healer but I still want a defensive ability which is why I like bap as the second support, depends on the map and what I'm playing. Obviously with a good sig, zen and mercy have more potential, just harder to pull off IMO (don't know how it works out in ow2 though) Another area that can be touched is stall. Lucio, moira and bap were known to be great stall characters in ow1 and now kiriko brings amazing stall potential with her teleport and suzu. Analyzing the current state of stall, which and how many heroes are alive, how much time the enemies have, how the route to point appears and all sort of things can factor into which stall character you pick, but it's important nonetheless. Personally I find kiriko to feel like a higher apm hero than bap but not by much and it could be subjective due to me having experience on bap. Sorry for the ramble, really enjoyed the vid. Feel free to rebut or add :D
@darksplash873
@darksplash873 2 жыл бұрын
My favourite moment is when the dps goes on the bad angle mentioned by you and dies, and then the mercy goes on same angle to res them and also dies AOSUFHPFAU Usually doesn't happen though since mercy can los the res'd soul and use cover thanks to the slight range res has. It is always both hearbreaking but somehow comedic to see a mercy go for that one res and just get collapsed upon by the enemies (and yeah it happens to me too)
@wookieninja8794
@wookieninja8794 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the breakdown SVB. I have a bit of knowledge since I played all 3 beta's and I watch a ton of OWL but knowing and doing are two separate things. It's great to hear from a higher player what the characters are capable of and when they are best applied. I hope to see more of these for the other roles.
@KHS105
@KHS105 2 жыл бұрын
6:13 the hammer went spinning 😂😂😂
@Dkizzle16
@Dkizzle16 2 жыл бұрын
music sounds like it came from the game 'core keeper'. Love it. Also, great vid - I learned a thing or two and I'm a healer main
@fiscaldisco5234
@fiscaldisco5234 2 жыл бұрын
this just describes the basic things about the heroes where I think what I take into account when selecting a hero is 90% based on 1. what map are we playing, 2. what's my team comp, 3. what's the enemy comp. So this felt like it missed what you actually need to make a good decision as to who to play. I like playing bap the best but that doesn't mean he's the best pick for every game.
@TrueTgirl
@TrueTgirl 2 жыл бұрын
Y'know I actually find that assessment of Brig kinda strange. It's an entirely reasonable way to take her, but for me her absolutely most effective playstyle has always seemed to be "go ride or die with a tank, keep each other alive, and become as big a problem as the two of you can be while the rest of the team mops up." I find she's always thrived on aggressive play, getting stuck in on the front lines and keeping inspire up as much as possible.
@cloroxbleach7686
@cloroxbleach7686 2 жыл бұрын
Great take. this is how I play as well found it much more effective than back line
@joegreen1591
@joegreen1591 2 жыл бұрын
This playstyle, while still viable at times, is limited by the Shield Bash changes. I've found there's a lot more times you have to back off with her now. The plus side, if you step away from pushing with the Tank for a second, you can peel off the other Support then head back to the front.
@dragonmaster951753
@dragonmaster951753 2 жыл бұрын
Tanks will rip you apart. If zarya decides to fully push you, there isn't much most tanks can do to stop them. Original Brig could do that but this version not so much. Protecting against genji is pretty crucial when he's everywhere. Plus this is the playstyle of most gm brigs. If your other support can't be dived then killing your team becomes so much harder
@jeoshy1873
@jeoshy1873 2 жыл бұрын
This is exactly how I always play Brig
@bastinelli443
@bastinelli443 2 жыл бұрын
She doesn't have that kind of sustain anymore. Lack of ther cc now makes her an easy target.
@quitehandsomedude6412
@quitehandsomedude6412 2 жыл бұрын
What can I say....Zenny is the best support. Period. I usually just kick opponents around until my teammates finish them and you know the best part: he can heal allies too.
@boomwowsion64
@boomwowsion64 2 жыл бұрын
he's gotta be the worst support now.
@predatorhunter3169
@predatorhunter3169 2 жыл бұрын
@@boomwowsion64 why
@Jchillin_wbu
@Jchillin_wbu 2 жыл бұрын
MORE MORE MORE I need more SVB videos! Great video, as always.
@WizardKitty723
@WizardKitty723 2 жыл бұрын
I love playing Mercy, but I’ve been winning more when I play Baptiste.
@skyesfallin
@skyesfallin 2 жыл бұрын
I been using Brig to go after Sombra when she picks on our back line. I love that girl.
@RenciaFennaas
@RenciaFennaas 2 жыл бұрын
Why i felt like Moira description was an attack towards my gamestyle xD SVB watch too much of my Moira XD Feel the Moira and embrace the Moira
@LightingbladeShen
@LightingbladeShen 2 жыл бұрын
Ana: "you're way too far, stand still and I'll heal you"/or the crossbow healer from tf2 Baptiste: "i have a team of offense with zero hitscan and i don't trust them to hit the airborns. Also I can keep myself alive in a clutch 1v1" Brigitte: "no more stun, but i'm still the suport that protects the suports from divers" Kiriko: "team full dive...i'll dive with them" Lucio: "more of a utility with the speed and heal boosts. Solid hero for survival and contesting if enemy has bad aim" Medic from tf2: Mercy Moira: "i don't trust my team at all so i'll do it all myself" Zen: "the actual 'i'll do it all myself'"
@Ryan-Mather
@Ryan-Mather 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video SVB! Super helpful and clever written content.
@soucaco
@soucaco 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't realize you were back to making content. The goat is back!
@ryanager8029
@ryanager8029 2 жыл бұрын
On of the secrets with Kiriko is she too can switch fluidly between a solid single target heal and lethal dueling damage, to escape, similar to Moira. It’s definitely much higher skill floor, but it is absolutely something you can do.
@firstnamelastname9237
@firstnamelastname9237 2 жыл бұрын
A heck of a lot higher skill floor/cieling. Plus while moira can heal while damaging (toss an orb and then do the opposite with hands) kiriko can’t BUT she can save people from ultimates and two shot a lot of heroes if you’re really good at aiming (or lucky).
@mystic865
@mystic865 2 жыл бұрын
I found her healing lacking while being support class.
@assimilater-quicktips
@assimilater-quicktips 2 жыл бұрын
0:40 they need less healing lol sometimes. Sometimes I switch Ana despite wanting to spend as much time as possible learning kiriko just cause my tank doesn't know how to take less damage or disengage when they are low hp lol
@chalupabatman4978
@chalupabatman4978 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to see ur back dude, I love ur videos
@boomjykeo2
@boomjykeo2 2 жыл бұрын
4:17 my head immediately went “or wherever you are” when SVB said “near or far” 😂
@TheNerd
@TheNerd 2 жыл бұрын
We have gone full circle. Years ago, when educational content was rare and this channel was very small, I watched the "Thought Process" Series. Now I'm here years later and still enjoy the Videos, despite beeing 3000 hrs older ingame.
@ericjanssen394
@ericjanssen394 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks to the lack of Tank, game experts notice NOBODY WANTS to play Support--And since I always take Random for the Hero Pass points, I've ended up playing Support 9 out of every ten games. I almost can't remember what Tank and Damage I used to play. I've discovered Brigitte is good on New Queen Street, where it's cramped melee, Lucio is good for payload runs where you have to keep your party constantly healed, and you can clean up anything with a gold-plated Zenyatta, but you'd be crazy to go into Nepal without one.
@jammy_2597
@jammy_2597 2 жыл бұрын
Could you do the same for dps and tank? I love these kind of videos
@insomniaddictesp
@insomniaddictesp 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video. As a console player in the past I keep going for hero’s that I shouldn’t now, given my move to PC
@spacewargamer4181
@spacewargamer4181 2 жыл бұрын
2:06 So its only me the one that plays with genjis that think the floor is lava?
@madmaxim3965
@madmaxim3965 2 жыл бұрын
In OW I used baptiste and mercy pretty much exclusively as mercy was my more simplified choice as you just gotta maintain good position with her while switching to the appropriate boost while Baptiste is when I can branch out a bit more and can do more things, basically if we're getting whooped I go to mercy just to get things back to even flow or for a last push and trust my teammates while Baptiste is when I either trust my teammates so I can branch out or I don't and need to do more lol but I'm really liking kiriko picking off heros with headshots is so fun and she's not a terrible healer by any means as it doesn't require much aim and has some range and her super is great and even better depending on what heros your teammates are
@joshburger2217
@joshburger2217 2 жыл бұрын
If you are new ish and just want to have high impact, bap is probably the best. you have easy-to-hit aoe healing, and some movement and survivability. just heal until you feel your teammates can take a few hits then go back to attacking. As a player w WAY more time on ana then bap in ow1 , bap is just getting so much more value for me in ow2
@Papyrus-FutureRoyalGuard
@Papyrus-FutureRoyalGuard Жыл бұрын
After watching this video, i reflected on starting with mercy and switched to zenyatta. Gest decision i made as i found my footing and got my first POTG on OW2 =D
@jvstAsYouAre
@jvstAsYouAre 2 жыл бұрын
If you play brig like that you will get 4 kills and 1.5k healing and it's gonna be up to you to explain how important it was every time you hit a whip shot on a diving Winston when your team is yelling at you. Won't be easy but nothing is impossible. I beliebe in you.
@blardofresh2040
@blardofresh2040 2 жыл бұрын
Very good guide because it works with the player's strengths, weaknesses, and preferences.
@kitfo18
@kitfo18 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a Overwatch 1 player and I will be sticking with Moira as my main. I am a hybrid mind set. I would rather do several things well then just one thing great. That being said Zenyatta was my original main and I still practice on him as well. Kind of a 60/40 time split but the only style of play I like is support anyway.
@Youtube_Globetrotter
@Youtube_Globetrotter 2 жыл бұрын
I think Kiriko is a very interesting support hero. I have played her non stop for 2 days now. You really have to make a lot head shots, not only for the damage but it will give her special much faster and it's an extreme good team boost. She's like a squishy Paladin with no armor.
@BaltimoreBarCrawl
@BaltimoreBarCrawl 2 жыл бұрын
Wow man, the new high effort videos look great.
@ThenixYT
@ThenixYT 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who loves kills and also likes to help... Kiriko Is really fun for me, I can kinda sit bad and casually play and still be helpful to the team without having to sweat as hard!
@MagpieR6
@MagpieR6 2 жыл бұрын
coming from proffessional r6, i like how casual this game is. baptise has definetly been my best support
@CandyOnAChopstick
@CandyOnAChopstick 2 жыл бұрын
Will you be making one of these for each class? It’s fantastic and incredibly helpful!
@artbybrandonlee
@artbybrandonlee 2 жыл бұрын
Love your stuff SVB, thanks for the vids!
@MATTandCH33SE
@MATTandCH33SE 2 жыл бұрын
Just switched to Pc after one tricking Rein in OW1 (yeah hehe not too fun) Decided to switch to healer and it’s been fun! This vid helped a lot thank you!!
@42percenthealth
@42percenthealth 2 жыл бұрын
I used to be an Ana main in OW1, but I struggle to make her work as well in OW2. I've mostly moved to Bap and occasionally Kiriko.
@squiggle8333
@squiggle8333 2 жыл бұрын
As a Titanfall player Lucio felt easy to pickup
@mharley3791
@mharley3791 2 жыл бұрын
This was a great video. I would love for you to also add when you shoudnt play a character/matchups or comps that characters do bad against.
@SifGreyfang
@SifGreyfang 2 жыл бұрын
Reasons I main moira Interesting character concept where she experimented on herself. Solid damage and range that can't be deflected Decent at healing (kinda do think she needs a buff for that.) Her ult is great at damaging and healing in pushes or counter pushes And her dash is godlike in the correct situation
@darksplash873
@darksplash873 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly moira has one of the highest healing outputs in the game imo, I wouldnt say it needs a buff, especially since she can heal multiple people at once if they're lined up. A lot of other supports either have single target healing or waaay lower healing, but over a bigger area, like lucio or brig. Usually she's the one with the most healing in games.
@SifGreyfang
@SifGreyfang 2 жыл бұрын
@@darksplash873 I see what you mean but most of her healing comes from her orb ability which imo can be difficult to position sometimes. (also I don't know if its me or something but there are times where it goes flying out fast then other times comes out moving at a snails pace.) Also the regen from her heal spray imo is what needs the heal buff. It just feels like it heals a bit too slow
@ryanager8029
@ryanager8029 2 жыл бұрын
The orb speed is determined by whether some is in range that needs healing
@darksplash873
@darksplash873 2 жыл бұрын
@@SifGreyfang hmm ok I get what you mean, but let's look at the numbers, shall we? Moira does 70 h/s with her primary fire (and it lingers aftrer you stop firing for 2 seconds healing another 35 but that's quite insignificant). Her healing, like stated before, can heal multiple targets at once as well, often it's just one or 2, but if the team is playing together, her aoe heals get tons of value. Mercy has 55 h/s which is exclusive to a single person (but her value comes mainly from the blue beam anyways), baptiste, while can heal in an aoe, only heals 55.5 h/s on indirect hits (while getting above moira with 77.7 hp/s on direct hits but those are both tough to hit and only 1 target can be hit directly), ana has I think the highest single h/s from one source, with around 87.5 h/s but PURELY single target. Kiriko has around 78 h/s from what i've heard, but again, purely single target. It is kinda moira's niche to be healing multiple enemies at the same time and buffing her would make that ability of hers even stronger. I'd rather suggest playing to her strenghts and tring to position yourself in a way that allows you to heal multiple close by enemies at once :D She does get outclassed in single target healing but quite a few of the other healers, but for single target scenario's her orb is very efficient, but it does have a max heal capacity of 300, so while it does seem to do a ton of healing to singular targets (and it is really good at it, especially if you're topping them up with your spray at the same time), it doesn't actually equate to a bit % or your healing done, especially since you can only use it once every 8 seconds. Honestly I wouldn't mind her getting a small healing bonus to the first person hit by her spray to boost her single target healing a bit and make her more flexible and able to work better with uncoordinated teammates ^^' But overall I think she is fine, she just has her own niche and you can definitely make her work very well if you abuse that niche. Playing her with reinhardt or winston can work very well since you can keep up with their pace and their teams like to pla together, while teamcomps with wrecking ball or doomfist can bit tougher to make work. Doesn't mean she can't get value there, she definiely can and could even lean more into her dps-y playstyle, but it is a bit tougher to get a lot out of her primary heal. Sorry for writing a whole ass essay about it ^^' Hope you understand what I'm trying to say here and it helps you get a bit more value out of moira :D
@jackedfrost
@jackedfrost 2 жыл бұрын
Reasons for me, I can deal damage without feeling defenseless, easily heal myself, and teammates cry if you have the most damage even if you have the most healing too lol
@cassandrafortanidad2519
@cassandrafortanidad2519 2 жыл бұрын
Hi. Doomfist main here with a PSA for Brigs out there. Please stop whipping targets away during teamfights. Turns out our rocket punch does have a range limit, so getting our target whipped 500 meters away is a wonderful way to get what ever weapon they carry to the face. Thanks :)
@grimrobot2059
@grimrobot2059 Жыл бұрын
Overall a lot of people use more adjustable toxic but I've seen some amazing healing moira's so I'm going to try her out
@lefty5990
@lefty5990 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this! Super helpful :)
@Spongemonkey26
@Spongemonkey26 2 жыл бұрын
All the supports are good, and I do love the new girl, problem with the new meta however is that all supports are essentially sitting ducks for most of the game because there isn't a lot of protection.
@joshcr1994
@joshcr1994 2 жыл бұрын
Disagree a little bit with kiriko, she does a surprising amount of healing because she can be anywhere she needs to be super quick and has a ton of survivability with the swift step. Still a secondary healer but her output is way more than I anticipated
@UrBoyDlo
@UrBoyDlo 2 жыл бұрын
I just started playing overwatch 2 for the first time like a day ago and have seen the most success with Zenyatta
@CallmeSins
@CallmeSins 2 жыл бұрын
If you have some shooters on your team.. always Mercy. The ability to move while healing and resurrection come in clutch when you fly behind the enemies moving the payload and res your tank behind them.. then fly back to the rest of the squad
@VYKSU
@VYKSU 2 жыл бұрын
Great job here as always SVB.
@therickeffect7466
@therickeffect7466 Жыл бұрын
I personally use moira. I see alot of moiras trying to be solely dmg dealers on opposing teams and fail miserably at it. But when im healing my team that can survive alot longer and i can still get some dmg in while im busy healing.
@NinyaChow
@NinyaChow 2 жыл бұрын
Wow seeing the APM demonstration on Baptiste makes me realize I won't get the full potential playing on console unless I'm blindly shooting enemies directly through my allies bodies
@reedwojo7858
@reedwojo7858 2 жыл бұрын
God zenyatta is my favorite character in the game, both character and kit. My only problem is... I'm always dead. He's so vulnerable, and I have a bit of trouble hitting orb headshots. The quick regen of the shields is great, but having to stay near cover makes you a huge dive target. Anyone have any tips?
@koalasquare2145
@koalasquare2145 2 жыл бұрын
One thing that I don`t understand is when to play bap or ana with brawl heroes. Ik bap is usually what the pros play but in plat, I feel like a lot of times Ana can get more value from her increased healing.
@Aymerhic
@Aymerhic 2 жыл бұрын
As a protector,brigitte is my kind of support,although its more onto "you hit my friend? Let me come and slap your face" type of gameplay i have with her
@sirunclerico6772
@sirunclerico6772 2 жыл бұрын
Im struggling with the running sim element of OW2. Running/walking to a fight takes longer than actually being in the fight because the hero gets bullied hugely.
@0x7h_
@0x7h_ Жыл бұрын
If you play zenyatta you need always bear who says “chang to mercy”
@bencebalint1956
@bencebalint1956 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you're back SVB! Keep up the good work, can't wait for your next game show idea! 😉
@Tattagreis89
@Tattagreis89 2 жыл бұрын
I would have loved if you could have included what map or gamemode is advantageous for what support character. Apart from that it was very informative, thanks.
@vitobambino6032
@vitobambino6032 2 жыл бұрын
Overwatch should definitely add this type of Guide to their game.
@phipschi4255
@phipschi4255 2 жыл бұрын
Brigitte: *being good for players who like to defend* Me playing Brigitte: *literally the most aggressive player in the team* I feel like with her shield, area damage primary and other abilities she is very capable of leading a push right behind the tank
@PoolGyall5441
@PoolGyall5441 2 жыл бұрын
Genuinely loving Moira and Kiriko, idk why the Overwatch team doesn’t make more versatile characters that can switch between playing aggressive and safe and receive low risk high reward plays. Now this could be because I just don’t know how to play them but Mercy and Brig are my least recommended as Mercy is basically useless without a good tank and Brig is chunky and slow and her shield is so easy to break leaving her an easy target for snipes and sprays.
@idiomasentusiasticos7954
@idiomasentusiasticos7954 Жыл бұрын
I main Mercy. But when I need to dps more, I choose Moira. I want to get good at all the support characters. I tried out Ana and failed miserably and ended up switching to Mercy/Moira because god knows I can’t snipe.
@shiiyang
@shiiyang 2 жыл бұрын
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