Which Team Will NOT Get A QB?

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[@willemdaho3]

pisses me off how some teams are too impatient with their qbs. Jimmy G i get because he's always injured. Mitch is too inconsistent. Sam Darnold needs a fresh start. Deshaun too. But why would the dolphins turn around and say, "fuck our rebuild" and give up on Tua? Went from #TankforTua to #TradeTua after one season... some of yall don't deserve qbs

[@ktownshutdown21]

People like to pretend that Josh Allen wasn't doing shit either, and the same talks of getting rid of him were starting to bubble up before this year. "But Herbet and Burrow " nothing; plenty of guys had great rookie seasons but ended up flaming out later on, so everyone letting their recency bias boners drive them might want to think twice before blowing their loads too early.

[@troystaunton254]

I agree. I kinda hoped tua would be a bust because of the tank for tua crap but he’s far from a bust. Steve young played for the buccs and was garbage.... hall of famer. Troy aikman was trash in his first year at Dallas. Hall of famer. Brett farve was so average that Atlanta traded him. Hall of famer Peyton Manning has arguably the worst rookie year of his generation. Hall of famer Imagine the league if 7 games was enough to know all these guys were crap and cut them from the league.

[@ritty1777]

This is so true. As a Broncos fan, we though Lock was franchise after going 4-1 in his first 5. Now after his abysmal season, we know we NEED someone else. His decision making is piss-poor and his attitude stinks. I'd love to have Tua for sure though, so many teams are impatient with QBs

[@ahtalk9847]

@@ktownshutdown21 to be fair Josh Allen had a big arm just bad footwork and ball precision, he’s fixed those 2 things. Tua doesn’t have an arm like that

[@skillganon606]

@@ritty1777 you think the Broncos would treat Tua any better? They hate developing QBs, why do you think they've been through so many? It's like Elways never wants to give them a chance to actually get better.

[@dnldblmnt]

Everybody wants a new QB in the draft, but they should really take a look at Gardner Minshew. Dude got wins for the Jags who should've been 0-32.

[@yaboi9419]

@Levi Mattingly exactly. Give Jax a 2nd or something for him

[@yaboi9419]

@California Dreaming you and I both know arm isn't everything

[@Somestupidloser]

The Bears need to start a rebuild. Mack has been everything that was advertised but it's clear that they mortgaged their future thinking that Trubiski was their guy. Now they're left with nothing and will continue to be mediocre.

[@IHateMyAccountName]

They went to 1 playoff game. Complacent ownership is making money and nothing will change.

[@imnova7822]

No we still have a very good defense and some offensive pieces the only big piece we need is qb if we give up now how long is it gonna take for us to get to the playoffs again or have a good defense??? That would take too long we r in the win now phase as our defense is still pretty good but it's gonna age here pretty soon in 3 to 4 years mabey even 2 so fuck rebuilding

[@bradleymaravalli2851]

Agreed. They are stuck in mediocrity. And Ryan Pace can’t draft.

[@BenDover-ln4bh]

@@imnova7822 well you’d lose all those pieces if you traded for DW or Russ so that’s not gonna happen. The only chance you have it that you luck out at QB in the draft or get a free agent. Even then you need either a given up on QB or rookie QB to play at a very high level which is also very unlikely. At least if you start the rebuild you can get a future started by trading your stars.

[@Somestupidloser]

@@imnova7822 Last year was the win now year. The defense isn't getting any younger and the offense isn't going to improve. Trying to go all in once again will only hurt the franchise even more. If they can land a big trade for Wilson or Watson then of course all bets are off but my opinion is 100% based on the idea that we likely won't be able to get either of them.

[@theelike4302]

If Dewayne Haskins is ever going to be a starter it will be in 3 years minimum. That boy has a LOT of growing up to do.

[@nrg6245]

Steelers know what they are doing. They will cut mason Rudolph and get another QB in the draft to compete with Haskins.

[@oscartorralba14]

By the time he’s ready to start there’s already going to be a couple of drafts with qbs who are nfl ready. Best case scenario I see for him is he becomes a less talented, less effective Ryan Fitzpatrick

[@kingofgondor13]

@@nrg6245 they aren't exactly known for helping guys mature though

[@JawaPenguin16]

At this point the Texans don’t want to let him go because it might start a trend like the NBA. These owners don’t want QB’s to realize how much power they have over the league. Texans say they’ll sit DeShaun for a whole season, I’ll give it 5 weeks of losing before they realize they reallllly shoulda just traded him. Leagues changing and these Billionaires hate it.

[@Dave-fz6wt]

How are there still fans of the Houston Texans? JJ Watt, Deandre Hopkins, Andre Johnson, DeSean Watson are probably some of the most humble, hard working, blue color future Hall of Farmers I’ve ever seen. How does an organization treat them this way? I liked the Texans for many many years because of the players, but ownership and management are a joke. They are not inmates on your prison yard, treat these people with respect!

[@HH-le1vi]

I'm in Houston and people are tired of ownership. They want a new owner. But that's much easier said than done.

[@ktownshutdown21]

"Hey, let's trade away all of our best weapons, let go the defensive guys that at least mitigated the problem, and keep the guy that hates us more and more as the days go by. What could possibly go wrong?" Even Jacksonville looks primed to have a better season that this incoming Texans disaster. Have fun in the AFC South basement, boys 👋

[@Reggie1408]

"What could possibly go wrong?" He could also assault women on top of that (allegedly)

[@Jekyll08]

Zac: "The bear have the 20th overall pick. how valuable is that? Can you get a starting QB at the 20th overall pick? Oh, you can't." Well, I know it's an odd spot to be in the first round, and most high profile QB's are going to be higher, but Dan Marino was 27th overall. Then there's: Ken Stabler, Roger Staubach, Joe Montana, Derek Carr, Dak Prescott, Drew Brees, Tom Brady, Russell Wilson who were all outside the first round. Tony Romo, and Kurt Warner were undrafted.

[@Eibarwoman]

After about the top 10 picks, QBs are a shot in the dark. For every Tom Brady, there's a Giovanni Carmazzi.

[@Jekyll08]

@@Eibarwoman It’s the same in the top 10. For every Peyton Manning or Patrick Mahomes there’s a Ryan Leaf or Rick Mirer.

[@johnquach8821]

@@Jekyll08 Don't forget worst overall Jamarcus Russell.

[@Jekyll08]

@@johnquach8821 I'd argue he isn't the worst. I know I'm comparing two kinds of dirt, and stats aren't everything, but both played three seasons and their final stats: Leaf: 21 starts, 4-17 record, 48.4 completion 14 TD's 36 INT's Russell: 25 starts. 7-18 record, 52.1 completion 18 TD's 23 INT's.

[@Eibarwoman]

@@Jekyll08 Just the hit rate at the later rounds for even a middling journeyman like a Derrick Anderson isn't that good let alone a Wilson or Brady.

[@051moowap8]

Dolphins would be dumb af to draft a qb over Penei Sewell. especially when they can go draft a pretty solid receiver later in the 1st round and get Tua help

[@justinslesinger7230]

Doesn't the new CBA make it much harder for Deshaun to sit out? per Article 8, Section 1(b): "A player shall not receive an Accrued Season for any League Year in which the player is under contract to a Club and in which (i) he failed to report to the Club's preseason training camp on that player's mandatory reporting date; or (ii) the player thereafter failed to perform his contract services for the Club for a material period of time, unless he demonstrates to the Impartial Arbitrator extreme personal hardship causing such failure to report or perform, such as severe illness or death in the family." Doesn't that mean the Texans can just refuse to trade him and if he doesn't show up he loses a year and Texans keep his rights an additional year?

[@deathlymeme1738]

He can just have a nagging injury the entire year

[@musicgenius1948]

Can’t he just opt out and say it’s cause of Covid and still get some money

[@BigxMike100]

And even if he retires if he comes back to the league at any time the Texans will still have him on contract

[@An_idiot936]

I disagree that Teddy is a solid starter. Is a backup at best will give you 5 wins and 15 Tds

[@TheRealFrankZombo]

Dang i dont wanna agree with you, but hes a shaky starter but hes an Elite BackUp like Fitzpatrick and Hoyer and them

[@JonathanSirico]

If I'm the Texans, I make the deal with the Jets. They have all the assets you could want and draft 2nd and you can get Darnold? (Who you can use for a year and then flip for more assets or keep if you like him.)

[@Arizona-ex5yt]

And what happens when Justin Fields threatens to go back to Ohio State for another year if Houston drafts him? He's a junior. It's an option.

[@killerboy-cw1wg]

only if the jets wanted to make a deal with the Texans

[@JonathanSirico]

@@Arizona-ex5yt You can't just declare and change your mind. There are windows and he could lose his ability to play in college. Normally, a team will talk to him and his people at official workouts and they will have an idea if the guy doesn't want to play for them.

[@johnquach8821]

Good thinking, but I'd say the Dolphins might be a better idea. Draft 3rd, + Tua (which I think is better than Darnold) + the 18th in exchange for Watson. If Tua doesn't pan out he can be flipped for more assets.

[@wordcripple3174]

I don't see deshaun's value anymore with all the domestics he got going on.

[@adhalbetancur9948]

What do you mean the bears aren’t gonna have a Qb, Mitchell Trubisky revenge tour coming up soon.

[@Gchav25]

this aged like milk with the Dalton signing

[@tracemcsorley6368]

Imagine not re-signing your MVP and NVP Caliber QB 😂

[@killerboy-cw1wg]

people saying they wanna see a trade between the Texans and jets but don’t realize jets don’t have to or want to make a trade

[@chidorisnake22]

Have to, no. Want to? Well, it's either trade an arm, leg, and a soul for a sure thing, or take the high risk, high reward option of a Zac Wilson or Justin Fields. Getting Robert Saleh and Mike LaFleur shows that the Jets want to win and win now (at the very least, improve to a record above .500), so it makes more sense to go for Watson to me, but either option isn't a bad one, especially with rookie QBs now being able to come right into the NFL and play at a high level out the gate. No answer for them is the wrong answer at this point, aside from doing nothing.

[@brendonbuffaloe8830]

@@chidorisnake22 Yeah, if it was a Dak Prescott or a Carson Wentz, I’d say draft the rookie with the cheap contract, save yourself the other picks to improve your roster, and pray it works out. But chances are no QB in this draft will ever be as good as Watson, and he’s still only 25. Yes his contract is expensive, and you’d have to give up a ton of draft capital, but I think Denzel Mims would blossom into a superstar with Watson, and the Jets could use Darnold in the trade to give up less picks. Watson just needs a competent defense, and a decent running back to be successful. The Jets could give him a few weapons and spend the rest of their picks building an elite defense (like signing Jaire Alexander when he hits FA next season). If you have Deshaun Watson and a great defense, you’re a contender. He elevates everyone around him and had an MVP-caliber season with practice squad receivers

[@chidorisnake22]

@@brendonbuffaloe8830 The Jets signing Corey Davis just made them a little more dangerous. If they were to get Deshaun now, they'd instantly be a potential threat in an already stacked AFC.

[@brendonbuffaloe8830]

@@chidorisnake22 Corey Davis is an average WR2 at best. They still don’t have a #1 receiver, but I think Denzel Mims could be that guy for them. If that happens, they’ll be competitive. They’ll still lose the division to the Bills until they improve the defense and bolster the O-Line though

[@HH-le1vi]

@@chidorisnake22 I think they're better off going through the draft. Its cheaper and there's more holes on the roster than QB. They need this draft more than they need Watson. I don't think they get Watson. I think Miami will.

[@lordmichaeltierney3548]

Drew Lock played alot better end of season the reason wasn't they "dumbed" down the playbook. They changed the entire blocking scheme, watch the games up until week 10 our play calling was pass, run (3 yards or less), pass, punt. Our O Line was horrible and our RB stats were padded by one long broken run that would look like we got 80+ yards and it was one rush for over 50 yards lol but after week 10 the entire scheme and play calling changed and the team improved. Plus not to mention our best WR didn't play a snap with Courtland Sutton. He was throwing to rookies and career backups.

[@bren7431]

You forgot Washington. They’d be so much better if they find their guy. They just signed Fitz, but I think there’s potential for them to move up in the draft

[@tcket1k350]

Then trading for fitz on a one year deal confirms there trading up for a QB

[@hanschristopherson8056]

I would say Miami is probably the best landing spot for Watson as they have decent picks and a QB that could be very good in Tua and Miami seems like they’re close to being done with the rebuild and don’t want to wait for Tua to develop

[@mediahernandez]

Seahawks can get darnold or minshew if they trade russ

[@bananamessiah7596]

Eagles OC and QB coach were at Trey Lance’s pro day...

[@acrossthepond2830]

I think 30/32 teams sent either a head scout or a coordinator to his pro day. Not saying the Eagles don’t want Lance but this evidence isn’t enough to go on I’d say

[@Twink5]

I feel like this draft is not going to be a good quarterback draft class (besides sunshine obviously). Hopefully I’m wrong

[@stinkyfish97]

If you are the Jets. With your #2. Wilson or Fields? OR? Zach Wilson, or Justin Fields OR Deshaun Watson. If you are not sold on Wilson or Fields. The Jets have the opportunity to get a sure bet at QB with Watson, should the want.

[@troystaunton254]

I think the best thing for the teams I like would be. 49ers trade Jimmy to the patriots for their highest pick then send that pick to the Jaguars for minshew. The broncos trade lock and Gordon to the jets for Darnold. Also I’m certain at this point the Steelers know they can’t win with Big Ben, but also know they don’t have an alternative on the roster and can’t get one through the draft and any trade would weaken other positions and only result in getting a QB that someone else seems inferior. I believe they’re just doing what I would do. Do nothing until I know what I want to do, so I don’t force myself down a path I started down because I didn’t know better.

[@matthiasmartin4355]

You don't understand why the Texans don't want to trade Watson to the Jets for all their assets? Do you live under a rock? Look at the Chicago Bears. They might not get another QB like him in 30 years.

[@snakezula]

Depending on what the Dolphins want for Tua, I think he is the correct competition for Drew Lock in Denver if they cant get Watson. The entire fan base wants to take Farley in the draft and I hate that pick because CB's aren't going to help much against the Chiefs.

[@bryanpcj23]

Houston doesn't have to trade Deshaun. Texans have the upper hand. I understand Deshaun being mad and agree with him but he's got to figure a way to work it out with just signing that contract 🤷🏿‍♂️

[@HH-le1vi]

Its simple. He sits out till Week 10, plays the rest of the year then gets traded after the Superbowl. He doesn't want to be there. You can't force him to play so you just save money and wait to find a suitable match that he wants to go to.

[@rileylopez7113]

NINTH

[@TheTEN24]

Would love for the Jets to get Deshaun but I doubt it happens

[@TheKalebWard]

Gardner Minshew is not a long term plan......

[@jn1384]

I think Watson is fascinating because he’s so valuable he’s actually priced himself out of a trade. The future picks they could receive are going to be worth less because any competent team with Deshaun Watson on it probably isn’t going to be picking in the top 10 for awhile

[@IronTorch20]

The Bears are a terrible situation for any rookie QB. Nagy and Pace are lame ducks, and chances are that rookie will have to learn a whole new system the next year after Nagy gets fired, and there's no guarantee that the next GM is going to want him to be their guy. This is all assuming that George McCaskey grows a pair next year, but who knows. You either go all in for Wilson, or you do what the Dolphins did and trade everyone of value and try and hit on those picks. Teddy seems like more of a stop-gap guy for a team trying to rebuild. It won't surprise me if he has a Fitzmagic type of career.

[@michaeldailey7103]

The draft is the excitement , the SB is the happy ending !!

[@Opry99er]

The Steelers didn't have a choice but to restructure and keep Big Ben. The cap hell they would have been in if they cut him would have crippled the team. The only thing that would have fixed it was if Ben had retired... After this year, they can move on, but if they had cut him, it would have cost them 45 million against the cap.

[@HH-le1vi]

I'm sure the Steelers knew that they'd either have to restructure his deal or have him retire. After this though I don't see a very good PIT team for awhile. They have to reload almost everywhere.

[@douglasfur3808]

Chicago doesn't have the means to trade for R Wilson. Do any of the teams his agent says are acceptable have the capital to trade for him or was this just a sham? A marker to put down to say Russ isnt happy?

[@neonblack789.]

I hope Carolina makes some good moves in the draft, we need some new heat. We're gonna be back on top soon

[@mikereddy9197]

Bengal just made his top ten qb prospects. Watch his video. It was very detailed

[@brendonbuffaloe8830]

Yeah but Bengal is sometimes very biased towards players. For example, he thinks Joseph Ossai is a 1st round talent because he is a Texas fan and always overhypes their players. Most analysts have Ossai going in the mid-late 2nd round because he struggled mightily against the top end tackles in pass rush drills. He is usually good, but sometimes he lets personal biases interfere

[@MrDylanPatrick]

Didn’t mention Washington?

[@tonikroosassistingyousince5973]

I pray every night We get Deshaun to the Jets

[@TheTEN24]

Same man lol

[@jacobblue52]

Soo deshaun was on a shit team and went 4-12. And you think him going to another shit team will be any better? If they dont have a way to improve by using what it would cost to get deshaun than its not better than what they had before

[@slimhardaway8]

Shit team lmao

[@chidorisnake22]

Man, after 4+ decades of either getting close or dwelling in the basement, we need this break. I really feel like we're one QB away from getting at least a competitive wildcard spot in the playoffs. Deshaun is that perfect QB to help an already talented Jets team ascend beyond poor coaching of the past couple of years.

[@hanschristopherson8056]

I personally don’t think it’s in the jets best interest to trade for Watson as they have many holes to fill in their roster, take a qb at no 2 if you must for cheap and build your roster around that player, if you trade for Watson you have no picks to rebuild your roster

[@cameronfrizzell3978]

Exactly they have needs everywhere. Watson would end up being upset and wanting another trade

[@max79_99]

Kellen Mond to the Bears in the 3rd. Next Dak/ Russell story. Mark me on this, Zac.

[@lesmoe524]

Lol Andy Dalton

[@rileylopez7113]

Okay I'm done. Love you man!

[@Ubermentsh]

if the Jets are interested.Texans should trade with them. Get Sam Darnold the number two pick And as many pics as you can this season. Trade down and build a team. Not as crazy as it sounds. Sam Darnold is going to be the next Ryan Tannehill if he lands on the right team. He's young enough to rebound

[@spencermonroe637]

Broncos would be a better trade id take lock over darnold all day as well as defensive players that we would package what defensive players would you package from the jets?

[@Ubermentsh]

@@spencermonroe637 I personally would take Sam Darnold and the second first round pick. Over Lock and the 9th first round pick. And in regards to the New Jersey Jets defensive players... They have defensive players?😁

[@buc4415]

I got dog piled by Ben lovers last time I said pit should get minshew or foles. It’s low risk trade which is the only trade the Steelers would do

[@RomanPhilosopher]

Manning wasnt "bad" his rookie season. Revisionist history.

[@nrg6245]

I’m not in denial, I can’t wait to get a new Qb, we should take trask!!!

[@DingoDIDeatmybaby]

Watson sits and Texans keep getting the 1st overall pick. I see that as a win for Houston's FO.

[@danielhardy2590]

Talk about who’s winning the nfc east

[@JW-wv6fp]

If deshaun does not want to be there he can screw the Texans over if time by playing and playing just enough to go 8-8 and give them a middle ground to 20 something pick instead of a high draft pick

[@jbbrolic]

If he decides to screw with the rest of the teams money by dogging it when he's filthy rich and many on the squad are fighting for their first and only deal, the line isn't going to want to block for him. He may very well get broken in half and end up disabled in that scenario.

[@alonwigodsky5912]

I'd trade for minshew if I'm the niners. Maybe a 4th.

[@shake4259]

10:50 that report is false. Also if anything they want to trade back

[@vrettos99]

you dont know deshaun if you think hes going to hold out. hes not going to destroy the careers of his teammates by holding out just to appease himself hes not selfish like that

[@themaverick1898]

It's not Deshaun destroying their careers. It's the texans organization. Bout time players start holding them responsible for poor decision making. Big reason Eli manning didn't want to go to the San Diego Chargers, probably saved his career. These billionaire will be making money long after the players leave, so it's only right that the player capitalizes on this small window of opportunity to earn as much as they can in life.

[@ajl9772]

Dolphins are a championship team if they get an elite QB. Should sell out for Deshaun and go get that championship.

[@itisnottaken4444]

Kellen Mond might be that quarterback. Has that Dak prescott type of talent.

[@HH-le1vi]

Better arm than Dak

[@itisnottaken4444]

@@HH-le1vi stronger for sure. Accuracy on sideline throws will be his make or break.

[@HH-le1vi]

@TheOriginalDante MA-Kaus He'll definitely get drafted. He's a top 10 QB in the draft.

[@shootamcgaven7452]

@@HH-le1vi I really hope so

[@brandonmcbroom9209]

I thought the same thing watching film on him. I think he is potentially better than Dak imo.

[@nrg6245]

Steelers need Harris and Trask!

[@slimhardaway8]

The Jets 😂😂😂

[@jbbrolic]

Any fan of a team outside of a few (the LA teams and Miami for the lifestyle as well as the other major market teams) should be EXTREMELY grateful to the Texans. There's about 20 teams that will never even sniff a ring if the NFL goes the way of the NBA and quarterbacks are allowed to not keep their word and honor contracts.

[@jburd7652]

Do nfl teams keep their word and honor contracts cuz if the Texans did that they wouldn’t be in this situation

[@nrg6245]

Kellen mond or Kyle trask will be the surprise QB

[@simpgaming4896]

What if deshaun Watson says that he retires

[@tsarbamba642]

as a true and honest jets fan, we don't want him! the patriots deserve to continue making fools of us, send him to another division! preferably in the NFC so the patrio- i mean the jets don't have to play him as often!

[@buzzkillington3840]

YOU JUDGE QUARTERBACKS BY THEIR THIRD FUCKING YEAR, NOT THEIR FIRST!! YOU OF ALL PEOPLE SHOULD BE AWARE OF THAT.

[@franciscodeanda1258]

Do you think the jags would take Watson for the #1? We all know Watson is a great player. Who knows what TL will be.

[@someguy5601]

No

[@redgle862]

Bruv, Flores and Grier has spoken out MULTIPLE times saying Tua is their guy. Yall just don't wanna hear it. And Burrow and Tua were nearly identical statistically sooo

[@bucketfullabiscuits7865]

Miami let fitz go, so this is an easy sign

[@nrg6245]

Steelers need Harris and Mac Jones!

[@franciscodeanda1258]

Trey Lance to Atlanta

[@spencermonroe637]

Lol let's act like the broncos don't have money, picks and players they can give up for him

[@patrickkelley6314]

Tyrod the franchise QB

[@cheetosleopard9861]

Jamie Newman will be the sleeper QB

[@Y49R]

Deshaun if u see this we need u bro- niner fan

[@rook4671]

hope he sees this bro💯💯

[@flaming8277]

The bears have to trade for Wilson or Watson or pace and Nagy will be fired next year so they will go all in

[@bradleyschoenecker2930]

all in with what? lol

[@jiub5454]

@@bradleyschoenecker2930 2021 first round pick, 2022 first round pick, 2023 first round pick, 2024 first round pick, 2025 first round pic, 2026 first round pick, ... 3125 first round pick, 3126 first round pick...

[@bradleyschoenecker2930]

@@jiub5454 😂😂😂😂 I’m a Panthers fan and I would do it for Deshaun

[@mrroams5812]

Syke they got Andy Dalton

[@jonahlopez1500]

why is tua even a question anymore????

[@MainManGeoff]

Why don’t you ever talk about the Falcons? They’re fourth in the draft and all signs are pointing to them getting a new qb

[@dnldblmnt]

Because even if they do pick a QB, he won't play this year or maybe next year since Matt Ryan's locked in for 2 years.

[@DaFishMan26]

The Bears because we’re cursed at QB

[@awardedaqua580]

I think you’re in denial about Pittsburg lol

[@jiub5454]

How?

[@skillganon606]

Poor Broncos fans, the last thing they should do is draft for a QB. The Broncos have never drafted a good QB.

[@isg6yeet741]

Why do zach and colin cowherd have such a weird fascination with big ben? It’s so odd...

[@DingoDIDeatmybaby]

Trubisky should get a lot of attention from teams. He's the ONLY NVP. Has Mahomes, Rodgers, Brady, or Lamar ever won an NVP? No? Didn't think so.

[@BigxMike100]

I’m a Texans fan and I agree I don’t want to force him to stay even tho I don’t want him to leave 😂

[@rileylopez7113]

TENTH

[@favianreyes7209]

Kyle Trask is so bad

[@dontforget2blink]

cmon man pittsburgh fans aint in denial.. we all know ben is washed and shouldnt have came back lmao (if youre a steeler fan and cant admit that youre delusional) its the ORGANIZATION thats in denial for even thinking to re sign him in the first place.

[@rileylopez7113]

Eight thh

[@wochipigu7116]

After the first day of free agency will the patriots be contenders this year?

[@killerboy-cw1wg]

Nope

[@zerotohero768]

@@killerboy-cw1wg if cam returns to his mvp than yes

[@imonit1177]

I don't think the Texans care. If all else fails they will sign Alex Smith or Ryan Fitzpatrick. They will just pick some random name off the market nobody else want's just to field a team. But I think they would rather see Watson retire before they let him play for someone else.

[@rileylopez7113]

THIRD

[@rileylopez7113]

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SIXTH

[@jiub5454]

After being a fan my entire life, I now want nothing to do with the Steelers, honestly after all the trauma I experienced in that city the last time I was there to see their teams which were the only things about the city I still liked become so complacent and incompetent so quickly I’ve just jumped ship and now only feel disgust towards them. I feel bad for any Steelers fans not under the illusion that the team is good, and perhaps they’d agree with me that the team deserves to go 0-16.

[@rileylopez7113]

FIRST

[@rileylopez7113]

FIFTH

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[@rileylopez7113]

SEVENTH

[@uppymcdowny58]

The Patriots. The end

[@marcusdow5356]

Deshaun Watson needs to look himself in the mirror and realize he did this to himself. He doesn’t have the leverage and this new coach seems to have that old school mindset, if you sign up for a job you need to attempt it before you quit. Good luck with retirement.

[@flanigans1029]

Watson has tons of leverage rn. He just won’t play and if he sticks with it there isn’t much Houston can do.

[@marcusdow5356]

@@flanigans1029 so the Texans will be a top team with or without Watson next year? They will probably be the exact same or maybe slightly better, cause they are rebuilding and have little young assets and talent. His only leverage was to not sign that contract and he gave that up. If he sits out this year all he did was waste a prime year of his career, money that is his own and whenever he decides to return he is still tied to that contract it doesn’t go away. Where is the leverage? Grow up Deshaun.

[@flanigans1029]

@@marcusdow5356 if they have him sit he is a major distraction for the team and players won’t want to sign there. If they trade him he is no longer a distraction/they can move on from that story and they would receive a lot of picks and players in return, players that will help them win both immediately and in the long term. Watson is 24 years old and is already a millionaire, he can wait out a season if he has to(but probably won’t because something will give by this time next year)

[@marcusdow5356]

@@flanigans1029 The Texans are not having him sit anywhere that’s his choice, they are just saying honor the contract you signed that you have yet to play on. The Texans have to pay him if they trade him still, it doesn’t help them to pay a player to play for another team. I don’t see many players going out of their way to get to Houston regardless of Watson. No matter the compensation they receive how will it be better than a star qb in his prime. If he wants to sit out a year that is his choice but he will be paying over 3 million in money back if he sits out during preseason and his contract just freezes until he reports there. He is playing chicken with an organization that can afford to play the long game. They can just wait for him to report next year or the year after or year after recoup some of the money he owes them and rebuild cause they will suck with him or without him.

[@marcusdow5356]

I’m usually on the side of players when it comes to getting paid, contract situations, going to a new team etc. But Deshaun Watson signed his deal in September 2020 and 6 months later decided I don’t want to play for you anymore. Not 2 years into a deal, not even a day of playing on that deal. He hasn’t played a down on his new contract and now he expects the Texans to just say we will do whatever you want to wherever you want ( no trade clause ) just cause you had a change of heart. He signed the deal after D-Hop was traded for a bag of marbles. If he hated their decision process why take their money. Definition of having your cake and eating it too and this ain’t the NBA where individuals matter more and can dictate terms. The NFL is a 22 man team sport and one man doesn’t make an organization go.

[@QuanLovesGaming]

I'm one of the people who doubt Tua 🤷

[@worldtsunami9142]

Sorry bro, Payton Manning was and will ALWAYS be a God QB. Everyone wants to ride Brady’s nuts but once a cheater always a cheater. Plus Manning changed the league forever when it comes to offense, and how defenses will play till the end of time. Audibles, changing formations, hard counts, shell defenses, line calls, changing protections. These are all concepts created by, for, and brought about by Manning, deflating balls and his own nuts is Brady’s calling card. Rookie year Manning had already started to change the league.

[@cameronfrizzell3978]

7rings to 2rings.

[@worldtsunami9142]

@@cameronfrizzell3978 caught cheating multiple times, yeah, just like a caught child molester I’m sure being caught cheating had nothing I do with his Super Bowl wins.

[@alphatrion4365]

Losers always have excuses.

[@vintage2983]

@@worldtsunami9142 Stop hating, he’s the GOAT and it cant be disputed any longer. No matter how big of hater you are, you’ve got to respect the man. That cheater and system QB arguement is just another excuse, you’re in denial at this point...just accept he’s the GOAT and move on with the rest of your life, like the majority of football fans.

[@cameronfrizzell3978]

@@worldtsunami9142 i mean not really he didnt win when the coaching staff got caught with spygate and for deflate gate it was one game against a colt team who couldnt stop the run if it was a hs running back. Grow up hes the goat.

[@lolwutyoumad]

Zach is unfortunately wrong If you look at the big picture the Texans hold all the cards while Watson has none, while the moves they have made suggests that they are looking to draft a new QB (Pep Hamilton signing) it does seem that they want the trade to happen on their terms and not Watsons. its also pretty obvious that despite all the bitching and moaning Watson has done, he doesn't want to leave any money on the table either The Texans aren't under any illusions that they are going to the superbowl with Watson so at this point the goal is to field a competent football team that can win more than 4 games. If they can win 8 then Caserio looks like a genius and franchise savior while all the pressure will be on Watson to win a SB to whatever team he goes to. A player only gets one free " I hate my team" card before the media turns on you if you fail to deliver big and Watson has used his one up

[@stephensalter8622]

Bottom line is Deshaun Watson is making a big mistake. He signed a contract. They got a new coach and it wasn't deshauns pick. Boo hoo name me a QB that gets to pick their coaches then whine and cry to get their way.

[@ktownshutdown21]

I wouldn't trust you to run a lemonade stand, nonetheless an NFL franchise, LMAO holy God this is one of the stupidest hot takes of all time.

[@stephensalter8622]

@@ktownshutdown21 what part was incorrect? Not liking something doesn't make it untrue.

[@ktownshutdown21]

@@stephensalter8622 Literally every part was dumb. But naw, I have a question for you, though, how about YOU name all of teams that have had success when player and management were publicly at war with one another. This shit gets you into a Collapse video, not a championship game.

[@stephensalter8622]

@@ktownshutdown21 why are they at war? He willfully signed a big contract last year. He liked them enough then.

[@ktownshutdown21]

@@stephensalter8622 So the answer is no, you can't. Yet you're still gonna tank your own franchise by cutting and trading away everyone ELSE, but keep the guy that actually wanted to leave. Boy, I smell dynasty. Watch out, Tampa, your SB crown is in trouble.