Which TF2 Mercs Are Only Working For The Money?

[@ultra-inc1541]

Scout 1:10 Soilder 2:18 Pyro 3:15 Demo 4:04 Heavy 4:51 Engi 5:10 Medic 6:28 Sniper 7:20 Spy 7:55

[@Lonqudor]

Ah thank you for this

[@wealthybone2990]

​@@LonqudorI think you can add this to the video somehow but I'm not sure how.

[@personhuman2239]

@@Lonqudor Honestly I think it's a good idea to do Ms. Pauling, the Administrator, etc. for this as well. The video was only nine minutes, you could stretch it to 14-5 and no one would mind

[@Jsisbskanndnd]

​@@wealthybone2990he could put it in the description i think!

[@bdj_tvk]

​@@wealthybone2990@Lonqudor you can copy paste the times and names like " 0:00 Scout" and it'll add it to the video play bar

[@clover5172]

Heavy has the most reasonable reason to be there for the money

[@Stealingoxygen]

Yeah i mean it cost how much to fire Sasha for 12 seconds

[@5resu666]

@@Stealingoxygen$400,000

[@darthmaul7434]

And Demo as well

[@welcometochiles6156]

Plus he is an awesome family man and he does his best to help them out

[@iturnedintoabox960]

No! Maybe he came for money but he stayed for fun! For once in your life watch the fucking "Meet the Heavy"! Stop pretending he's the most rational person in the universe! Stop making him intelligent! HE IS NOT! He's just a goofy ahh killer who likes vzzzzt rahrahrahrahrahr vrrrrrrr!

[@DumDum5551]

Think pyro might fall under "exploitation of the mentally ill"

[@spoobu]

a harmless "crime", really.

[@migitri]

​@@spoobu I automatically read your comment in Medic's voice. Now I feel like he'd say that exact thing.

[@thealmightyrat]

my guy half of the team falls under that category lmao

[@caramel7050]

@@thealmightyrat literally every merc gotta have something going on mentally lmao even the sanest of them clearly have some shit going on

[@beefyblom]

@@spoobu I mean in the context of pryo it is *very* harmful

[@icetide9411]

Headcanon: Soldier actually makes tons of money too, but he has no idea how to properly spend it and just throws money while running out of stores, effectively spending thousands on even just a loaf a bread

[@thehandyfamily806]

that he will obviously teleport

[@ComradeRagdoll]

Your HeadCanon Is interesting, yet Possible.

[@ComradeRagdoll]

Especially him [at One Time] being Exposed to Lead Poisoning, which made him Irrational and also get engaged in Bad Decisions and Making Bad Choices, Via impulsivity, Lack of [Self]Control, Etc.

[@thunderlips5293]

1930 german grindset

[@GunSpyEnthusiast]

" I BOUGHT BREAD! " * runs out of store whilst throwing 12 thousand dollars at cashier *

[@PotatoPatatoVonSpudsworth]

*Something to consider with Pyro:* While they aren't consciously choosing to kill people, the fact that everything they do in Pyroland also happens to line up with efficient/brutal methods of murder in reality tells us that on SOME level, Pyro DOES enjoy killing. HOWEVER! The fact that Pyro doesn't go on a rampage after being fired and instead becomes CEO of a company implies that their hallucinations likely compel them to do whatever is best for their current job, be it murder or financial strategy. We know that Pyro has the CAPACITY for complex decision-making, as they were capable of constructing multiple military-grade incendiary weapons out of crap they found in a garage. BUT!! We can ALSO see that Pyro is clearly miserable as a CEO, while working as a mercenary made them frighteningly happy. This tells us that on some level, Pyro IS aware of the difference between leading a company and burning people to death, and DOES have a preference. The fact that they don't just burn random people, though, says that even if it's what they love to do, they still won't do it unless they're being instructed to.

So in the middle?

[@B4dr4bbit]

I would say in the middle as well, I also kind of assume the way he sees things also helps greatly makes their tasks easier to so. I mean he does have actual pyromania, but it seems rather well controlled. Heck Pyro might make for a good park ranger in charge of controlled burns.

[@awsomkid3735]

So he basically won't do something unless their hallucinations tell them so? Even if it's something they like? Or could it be those goggles hallucinate the wearing to perform the best at whatever job they do?

[@Vex35]

Don't forget when pyro did choose to kill a bear on purpose

[@GoldenRedder]

Vex35 Well it was smoky which would make him a demon in pyroland where fire are rainbows.

[@iamthedrumandbassfarmer8735]

I see very few talking about Engineer's *raging* god complex. His machines are merely vehicles to satiate his (generally well hidden) bloodlust & power fantasy, despite his lacking physicality and combative abilities

[@Cathrinite]

I really wish this side of him was explored more in the comics

[@johndoe35859]

I don’t think engineer had a god complex, I just think he thinks everyone around him are complete fucking idiots, and rightly so. If anyone has a god complex, it most definitely medic. The man talked his way out of HELL.

[@fgeff1]

this hit deep

[@hiralykowalski6825]

Engineer might be no Soldier or Heavy but someone who runs with toolboxes full of steel as part of his job is not a average unfit nerd

[@hh7212]

Damn so i guess unlike a certain medical man he actually keeps it in, really well at that.

[@bruhmaxxer]

I feel like heavy gains at least a bit of fun from revving up his gun.

[@rox5629]

"a bit of fun" cut to meet the heavy's ending

[@joyauton3301]

AHAHAHA! WAHHHH WAHHA HAHAHAHA! CRY SOME MORE! heh. Cry some more.

[@zyrne7297]

I think it’s either playing into a character( in the comics I’m pretty sure he acts smarter than he does in the games to appease people like soldier or medic), or just an appreciation of dominance, so if you call that fun then…

[@soundwave6366]

My head canon is that he does it to help his family but does find some enjoyment in it. Like he’s calm and quiet normally but overjoyed and loud in battle. Like that one friend that’s really nice but super competitive when you’re playing a casual game.

[@platinumchromee3191]

​@@zyrne7297 Heavy has PhD in Russian literature,so yeah PootisMan is smart

[@williamsmeds1368]

I think Demo should be one tier lower. As he seems to really enjoy his job and was genuenly excited in the comic where he was put back in the team.

[@Something_Disgusting]

Yup. Also including how he was _personally_ distraught in the comic about no longer being able to defend Control Points for example. He really does seem to take pride in his work, while also being heavily incentivized to do it... because it's work. Mostly in it for the money is better suited for 'em.

[@the_epic_memer553]

I think he was excited as he finally got his job back, you know how serious his mom is about him having a job.

[@suursuits7637]

Also, the existence of demoknight is evidence for him having some fun with his job

[@ComradeRagdoll]

@@suursuits7637 It Only Furthers the L O R E !

[@doctorsam9200]

​@the_epic_memer553 Sure, but he was also holding down 3 jobs while working as a merc for Redmond. Once he got fired he was so devastated he either quit his other jobs, or got fired from them as well for being a slacker.

[@veryheavyalan]

I think medic should be up with engineer? While he is mostly in it for his experimentation, he does seem to really love money as well, especially in MVM where he's probably the only one who yells about getting free money. Great video though! Love this kind of stuff.

[@SaintRedFox]

Ooh, money!

[@fenyoarpi2627]

FREE MONEY!

[@stoopifz]

"The spoils of war...." -Soldier

[@s_gren9981]

I'd argue the opposite. The medic should be in the "Mostly killing" tier. He's joined the mercs so that he has ample test subjects to treat & kill. The money is only there to fuel the testing and killing even more.

[@CF-or3ci]

He spends a lot on his experiments. He said it in comics. So basically he needs a lot of money for his fun.

[@justaregularprofile8829]

Truthfully, I think Scout would fit more under "Mostly Money". This is because he was raised in a family of seven older brothers and a single mother, with a bastard father who left them when he was merely an infant (likely in a state of poverty). There's no way in hell a family of that size could live in a financially-healthy state (not without having a LOT of money beforehand anyways), but since Spy had abandoned them (who definitely has a job to keep the family he left in check), it's the whole reason why Scout became a mercenary two decades later, to fill in the shoes his bastard father had left behind and get them out of a state of poverty (why the comics never mention this is probably because he managed to do this sometime before the events of "Ring of Fired", since the mercenaries get paid TONS of money). If Scout had the option, I suspect he would much rather be a professional baseball player, but since he's a wanted criminal, he can't exactly go back to living a normal life, meaning he's stuck in this hell with the bastard who left his family to rot in the first place.

[@soop7349]

Oh shit I didn't think about it like that

[@SigilOfBaphomet]

Spy is cool, don’t call him a bastard

[@cherrydude.378]

​@@SigilOfBaphometWouldn't call him cool if you were Jeremy.

[@SigilOfBaphomet]

@@cherrydude.378 Spy couldn’t really stay as a family man, like he’s a spy it’s kind of his job to disappear

[@cherrydude.378]

@@SigilOfBaphomet Yeah, but not even Scout knows that Spy is his father, if anything he'd absolutely hate whoever his father was except for Tom Jones since he was his idol.

[@ness111]

I think that everyone is somewhat there for fun. You dont stay at this level of danger just for money, you gotta be enjoying it. Kinda like Walter from Breaking Bad, he needed the money, but then found out that it was actually what he liked the most.

[@bujustic]

Well consider the scout, what skillset does he have except killing? He probably can't read

[@psy-fi64]

​@@bujusticHe's clearly athletic, murdering people couldn't be the only practical application.

[@LalitoTV]

​@@psy-fi64he could also play bongos for money, he won't, but he could

​@@bujustiche seemed to read in Expiration Date. He also seemed to have potential as an artist.

​@@LalitoTVsame with dancing.

[@musicsheep9816]

Scout: Mix of money and fun Soldier: Clearly "tricked" into being hired by being told the enemy team is full of communists. Pyro: Tempted with fire. That's literally it. Demoman: Not so much for the money as much as it is just to have a job. Heavy: Weapons. They give him weapons he loves (romantically) Engineer: Contracted because his grandfather was too Medic: Contract allows him to freely experiment on the team, regardless of money. Sniper: Professionalism. He was hired to do it and he does it. Spy: Money, and lots of it.

[@ComradeRagdoll]

That Soldier AntiCommunist Pun Got me! 🤣

[@musicsheep9816]

@@ComradeRagdoll what pun?

[@ComradeRagdoll]

@@musicsheep9816 Shit, I Should’ve thought about a Different Word instead of “Pun”. I Should’ve thought this through. My Mistake. I Should’ve said “Remark” Instead.

[@Splitcyclewastaken]

My thought on Demo is that he does it and he takes pride in his work, but that's less because he just loves murder and more because he takes pride in a job well-done. He definitely enjoys the murder too, all of them do to some extent, but like... he's specifically taking pride in the quality of his work.

[@SaiyanGamer95]

I think Heavy's primary motivation is the money, as he uses a good amount of it to support his family.

[@wolfcl0ck]

To me, I think Heavy is in it for the Money for the most part, but is also an honor-bound killer. He probably has the highest moral standards of the 9 mercs, considering his backstory with his family, and, although he does enjoy shooting his guns and all that, he also is shown to hold strict moral boundaries. He inquires about Miss Pauling's job propositions to ensure that he is going to be killing "evil men" specifically, and his character niche being that of a sort of "team leader" both as a gameplay thing AND a lore thing says to me that, while he DOES do it for the money, the point of said money is selfless and for sending back to his family, and if he didn't have to worry about his family, he may either retire or work under Miss Pauling under the expectation that what he is doing is morally right and overall helps more people in the world.

[@lollikabosso.w.n7153]

I dont think of him as the leader, but rather as the guy that carries the team when needed And Id rather say he has the most neutral morality, making him perfect mercenary. He may have code of honor, but to him, unless you hurt him, or people he likes, he might as well sell himself to the highest bidder, as hes still a soldier of fortune, to whom killing is just a chore, but hes good at it, and thus takes pride in it.

[@h5skb4ru41]

I mean... it is canon that Heavy does have a PHD in Russian Literature.

[@2fortcow]

@@h5skb4ru41poker night is not canon what

[@johnhalo8726]

Idk, in poker night, Heavy clearly takes joy in how he described brutally killing an engineer.

[@lollikabosso.w.n7153]

@@2fortcow according to writers tweets, yes

[@AxtonTheObstagoon]

I think Medic is mostly in it for the fun. the money is just the way to keep the fun of his experiments going. I guarantee that if costs were of no issue, he wouldn't even care about the money. Plus to quote him: "the healing is not as rewarding as the hurting"

[@pumpkingpie2938]

Engineer is in the battle ground to test and perfect his buildings. He gets his pay from upgrading the life extender machines and by selling some of his creations (i think this one was confirmed in a Mann Co. newspaper) to major companies. So he's fighting only for the killing.

[@KudoRedfox]

Not just killings but also get to test his machines on battlefield situations

[@nathangamble125]

Surely fighting for test data, not for the sake of killing?

[@bIuecap]

So he should be in the “mostly killing” spot. Plus he needs money for materials to build unless the company provides him with it

[@PosterityIslesNews]

@@nathangamble125 if he wasn't a psychopath he wouldn't be going to the actual battlefield with a shotgun, he would just sell his turrets to whichever team pays him more

[@cillianwatters5619]

This video is basically "Let's see how ethical a group of killers are" and it's great

[@powdereyes2210]

Heavy is enjoying his job to a comical level So don’t just put him in the “in it ONLY for the money” category

[@Alex-vl1mk]

I don't think so. If the job didn't pay well then he would NEVER do it, the way I see it the killing is just a really nice bonus

[@hansshekelstein9450]

@@Alex-vl1mkbut he has a degree in Russian literature. He could be a professor or whatever.

[@commodorex]

@@Alex-vl1mk In the comics, he's unsure about joining the team _until_ he's told he can use his Sasha to mow down plenty of bad men, wherein he immediately exclaims that he's back in Team Fortress (2)

[@DefinitelyNotATrolldier]

I would disagree with Demo and Heavy's position -Heavy takes *_A lot_* enjoyment from mowing down hordes of enemy mercs, as seen in Meet the Heavy, "Mostly for money." -Demo takes pride in his job and tries to make his ma proud, and he also seems very amused in his domination lines, "Mostly for money."

[@k90v85]

demo does it for thrill with money involved, probably because of worsened decision making due to being eternally drunk

[@thegreatgoobert5847]

But would they still be doing this if it didn't pay well? I would say no, heavy and demo seem to like their jobs but it's not their passion. Heavy seems to be less into killing people and more into just shooting his gun, and demo just likes blowing stuff up, human or not. They arent doing this stuff just to kill people they're killing people so they can do the things they like.

[@k90v85]

@robertothesupermutant830 "sandvich is perfect fuel for killing tiny baby men" "sandvich and i going to kick your ass"

[@baconiumo]

​@@k90v85heavy is still a mercenary. they all take some enjoyment from their work, but I don't think heavy is in it at all for the killing

[@k90v85]

@@baconiumo hes definitely in for the killingneven if not main motive

[@Uber_Rush]

been noticing a lot more of people making content looking more into the life of the mercs and its something im all for good work with this one

[@JaggedBird]

Preeeetty sure Sniper is in it for the money, you're right. He's just rather depersonalised and has contempt for his fellow man, but finds the headshot itself satisfying. He is after all, a professional. That's honestly the big thing about him. That's what makes it hard to say, but I imagine he is just here for the pay, along with trying to have a living.

[@Terlinilia]

I think mercs like Pyro, Medic, and Engineer can be safely placed into "for the killing" since they could easily make just as much, if not more money with other jobs but they choose to be mercenaries

[@macaronitony93]

the fact that the mercs probably have different salaries actually made me sad lol but it makes sense: i think its less about their roles since theyre a team and more about scummy labour practices from RED and BLU. they should start a union or... maybe they have contracts like sports teams and get paid based on performance?? which would still leave RED and BLU with a lot of power to underpay certain mercs simply bc they can. ...goddamn. great video man, got me thinking too deeply abt labour laws within the hat simulator game 😂

[@CativaBR]

The mercs starting an union would make for a good Team Neighborhood episode.

[@prorandocopier7945]

@@CativaBR Blu soldier and red demo come up with it, definitely

[@Emanuelelgrande]

They probably take advantage of Soldier and Phyro's questionable mental health to pay them less.

[@dootdoot9066]

i personally think heavy should go in mostly killing, because unlike demoman, theres a huge emphasis for his passion of his gun. If you were to directly compare their meet the team videos, heavy's is focused on his love of his gun, whilst demos is focussed on how he values his job

[@thegreatgoobert5847]

But The killing isn't the point, it's using his gun. Death is just a side effect of that.

[@dootdoot9066]

@@thegreatgoobert5847 yea but he also loves just like mowing people down. like in the 5th or 6th comic where they get their guns back and mow down robots

[@thunderspark1536]

He enjoys it sure,@@dootdoot9066, but he clearly has a family-first focus when not on the job. If he was really into it like that, he would not be so...hesitant to reveal his past.

[@smashers6971]

There’s also the fact he doesn’t own Sasha, it’s just a gun Mann co provided to him. I just think his love of his guns is a farce to try to hide his dark past.

[@Splitcyclewastaken]

@@smashers6971 he pretends to be the big stupid guy so that people think he's really that shallow. He's acting the part. He's got a doctorate, he loves his family, and he's not inclined to let anyone know what he's doing this for. If Heavy Weapons Guy is really that stupid, when you look at him, then... Why bother looking deeper? He's good at playing the fool.

[@SpecsCloud]

Remember the bear incident in the comics, Pyro sees the world through pyrovision, but he 110% knows what's actually happening and what she's doing. Seeing one of the bears as Smokey, the second the bear says "Fire is no one's friend" Pyro gets really pissed and axes the bear to death That said Pyro does seem to care about money having gotten a mundane job after manco fell, so i wouldn't say its solely about the killing, even though pyro has the means of getting money elsewhere its far better getting paid doing something you love rather then something you hate. I'd say they're here for both, maybe a little more of the violence side but money is certainly a part of it

[@thegreatpapyrus2306]

I love that you say he she and they since it’s still 100% percent unconfirmed lol

[@cosmic5665]

I don't think pyro is female

[@baconiumo]

​@@cosmic5665you don't need to :3

[@funnythe7th]

​@@cosmic5665he's male

[@sunshineskystar]

Pyro is 100% male, it's confirmed by his voice actor being male and his concept art. The female hints in his trailer video and comic thing is just valve openly mocking the fandom for coming up with such ridiculous theory.

[@maragazh9993]

Scout: Money and passion Soldier: War Pyro: Seems to be going with the flow, and trying to do what makes him happy Demoman: Money for family Heavy: Money for family Engineer: Legacy and passion Medic: Experimentation, and funds for more experimentation Sniper: Money for a living Spy: Money for tastes and to look after the scout

[@Ubercentraltf2]

I understand your reasoning for Medic. But I feel like you should still put him closer towards the “doing it for fun”. Yes, he joined the TFC mercs because they pay him more. But he seems to spend it all (or at least a lot of it) on experiments. (Which he does for fun) And it also implies that he STILL was 100% willing to work for the red team, even if they weren’t paying him enough to buy organs. Also don’t forget, he joined the TF2 team again, after he revived sniper.

[@Collisto2435]

Pyro is in it for the killing. He doesn't know he's in it for the killing because he doesn't see that, but whatever he does see equates to the killing in the real world.

[@GPantazis]

I think that's why the theory that he's looking after Scout makes sense. Out of all the mercs (except maybe Engie) Spy is the most obviously overqualified for his position. He could easily be in team Echelon, or Bastion or whatever - those elite teams that Saxton sells all the *real* guns to. But he stuck with Fortress because... well it's about as high as Jeremy will go.

[@emobirb2302]

I mean, heavy does also enjoy using his gun, so he is mostly in it because it pays, but he also gets a good deal of satisfaction out of it.

[@Bacxaber]

Let us not forget his sadistic delight in ripping engi's fingers off.

[@GPantazis]

Pyro should be a very easy case considering you actually include both killing and fun into consideration. Regardless of whether or not he understands he's killing people, we see that things that kill people (especially fire) are translated into Pyrovision as things that cause him joy, while being a CEO does not.Incredibly clear cut case of "in it for the fun", the hard part is defining what that fun is exactly.

[@Kelsang01]

I feel like it would’ve fit better if this was an analysis on each of the mercenaries deeper motivations for being on the team rather than being than a tier list.

[@WeeTheGee]

I dont quite agree with Demo, in the comics he seems to be seriously depressed about losing his job to machines, and jumps right back on the occasion to get it back, while other jobs seemed uninteresting So yeah money is a big factor but i'd say he's mostly in for the money, not 100% just that

[@ihaveaname3403]

love these kind's of videos, keep em up!

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

Spy and Sniper both are examples of "if you're good at something , never do it for free" And Heavy, Demo, Engi and Spy show that just because you're in for the money doesn't mean you can't be proud of what you do and enjoy it. That is basically what we all look for. A job that can fund us that we also like doing.

[@kaschey6145]

I would say, the whole "enjoys/takes pride in their job" argument is rather irrelevant because it's literally a game about mercenaries - of course, they all have broken moral compass.

[@TheSandwhichman108]

How do you think Pyro would react if his Pyro vision was fixed and told and shown all those people he thought he was helping he burned alive? Considering pyro even without the pyro vision would most likely still be very mentally and emotionally unstable I can only imagine how traumatic it would be for him.

[@PeachiPrism]

I think scout should be in atleast mostly fun. "Investing" your money in merch that is expected to go up in value is different from typical investing as you are buying it primarily with the money allocated in your finances for fun and the profits are a bonus

[@itskyaru2404]

I think pyro might be also for the hire because depending on if you take it cannon or not, Evil Genius 2 let’s you hire him as a henchmen. So

[@baggiestshelf5822]

I feel like the big issue I have with spy being there for the money at all is the fact that given how good he is at his job, he could go literally anywhere and get paid just as much, if not more due to his skill.

[@drakencroger5103]

The comics say that team fortress is the lowest of the selection, a joke in the mercenary world, which makes him and sniper stand out a lot more

[@Actuallyimkale]

@@drakencroger5103the man is very skilled yes, but he’s clearly not too well based on the fact that he lives in a van, pees in jars, and says some pretty messed up stuff

[@magnusvonbraun9870]

He did mention that there was a theory that Spy joined the mercenaries so he can watch over his son, the Scout.

[@memememe609]

​@@drakencroger5103But that is not because they are unskilled, its because of the Mann Brothers and the Third Gravel War. Team Fortress IS skilled (if extremely unreliable), but it is dedicated to fight a worthless war that not even Hale cares about, besides using it to test weapons.

[@Freedmoon44]

​@@Actuallyimkaleanyone whod live as an Assassin based in TF2 Australia would be broke no matter how skilled you are lets be real

[@RobinRhombus2]

Pyro immediately gives up on being a CEO for the opportunity to start playing with fire again so it's definitely just for fun.

[@Pvential]

please help me, Lon'qudor, the hit tf2 youtuber, has trapped me in his basement

[@ComicallyDumb]

Medic even has an MvM line in which he screams at the top of his lungs: "FREE MONEEEEY"

[@Krox_JUK]

Heavy: there to help provide for his family. Pyro: has nothing better to do.

[@jamescampbell4416]

I feel that Heavy would be in the same boat as scout, have you seen how much fun hes having in the game?

[@humanharddrive1]

i don't think many people would work in a fast food joint, even if they were absolutely mad about fast food...

[@HK-pq7pe]

I think Heavy and Medic should be alongside Engie. Heavy's lines in game show that he really likes mowing down people with his gun, though I believe he signed up primarily to help his folks. And Medic really likes money. He's super excited about getting money from the robots in MvM for example.

[@Scout-Fanfiction]

Good vid. Same conclusions I'd have reached tbh (I haven't read the comics, just heard friends in the TF2 community discussing them). Off topic, I like the war paint on your Iron Bomber ^_^

[@TheLoaf1743]

Pyro is definitely in it for the killing, as his large company made his « world » bland and boring, without colors. He believes he has fun with everyone when killing, and, as seen in the comic A Cold Day In Hell, he is *likely* capable to be aware that he kills (mainly due to how he reacts towards the bear warning him about fire).

[@anilaisor]

4:47 a explosives expert does not need to be killing all he needs to do is explode what he is told to explode i think demo is only doing for the money, one job he explodes buildings the other he explodes people all in a days work

[@seal6615]

Maybe demo should be in, mostly money, considering the fact the battlefield is the only place where he can get drunk.

[@SHDW-nf2ki]

Demo is only working for Mannco for the money, but he takes hella pride in his work and could probably find legit demolitions work anywhere else but none that would pay as good. Soldier is probably really poorly paid cause the Admin or whoever drafted his contract is taking advantage of him, similiar thing with Pyro. They're both very dangerous very skilled people. But Mannco was hiring from the short bus that day

[@dillonmoore9810]

Excellent content for such a new youtuber, keep it up man!

[@ozvoid1245]

The pyro is easy to answer though. You already said it's killing OR fun. Pyro's just having a blast; though they might like a bit of the pay here and there to spend on fun things.

[@zilippo1743]

"Hey. You've been getting on fine without one" "A Soul"

[@creepypastakingthedragones3679]

Thing about demoman is, he takes pride in his work because the DeGroots are a family dedicated to the art of explosives, he was put into an orphanage because his parents doubted he was a DeGroot until he was seven when he blew up the orphanage

[@drakencroger5103]

tbh whether or not the list is at all accurate, this video is a great example of how many of the mercs have motives other than money or fun.

[@mrpineapple1933]

Let’s fucking go lonq, I knew since the spy video u we’re gonna make it big, this amount of growth in this time is insane and you really deserve it! I mean you’ve been pumping out high quality videos quick. Don’t forget me when ur famous

[@pudsco]

A lil add on near 1:10, I remember reading somewhere (Post by valve or somethin I forgot) that apart of the reason he's in it is to make money for his mom

[@regionfuego6]

Pyro is a complicated character because while it is true that he thinks he's making people happy with his fire, she also understands that fire is dangerous and hurts people. This is a contradiction that could, emphasis on could, be understood by saying that while Pyro knows he's hurting others it believes they are spreading its joy to others like this. Either way, Pyro probably is in partly for the money and partly to have an excuse to set everyone on fire. He's not a mumbling idiot, if anything the comics have shown that he acts the way she does only because they can, and that's it.

[@thealmightyrat]

kind of irrelevant but i've just come to the realization that using all pronouns for pyro is 10/10 100% my favorite way to describe them lol

[@thunderspark1536]

After all pyro IS the one to extinguish his teammates using airblast and reflecting explosives, so they clearly have SOME idea of what they're doing.

[@strawberryshortpup3655]

I think Pyro's writing is kind of weird and inconsistent at times in general, but by god are they still my favorite character. The power of hyperfixations make anything possible.

[@thealmightyrat]

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[@cockisinn]

i love the idea of spy only taking the merc job to keep a secret eye on scout. it's just oddly wholesome. wholesome as fuck

[@kiIIername]

There’s no amount of money anyone can pay to feel the joy Heavy does mowing down hoards of men

[@RealestChessa]

"Im putting heavy as only in it for the money." meet the heavy says otherwise

[@zekromfan1]

I think you might be a bit confused on the Demoman part. That article from him was about the top 10 house cleaners that won’t kill you if you drink them. And the part about Pyro could be boiled down to him only being in it for the “fun” since Pyroland makes it seem like everyone is just having fun. He probably thinks he’s getting paid to both babysit and play with children if “Meet the Pyro” is anything to go by.

[@Gusenichka925]

I feel like soldier gets the same pay, seeing how well of a killer he is, but he spends it all on raccoon sanctuaries and hats that were set on fire.

[@FlashOfSonic]

It's worth noting that Pyro abandons their enormous company without a second thought when given the chance to start working with fire again.

[@Polish_Rose]

i have a strong feeling medic will be on the top of " here for the fun " next to pyro

[@colinpartridge9943]

Honestly fascinating video, never thought of this idea! Good job!

[@lemonfork1152]

I'd move Heavy down a tier. His primary goal is helping out his family but he also appears to take *way* more pride in his, well... weapons than Demo. It's the only thing he's compelled to talk about in his introduction video and the Meet the Director comic. He even gave it a nickname and made a little bed for it. He's usually very down to earth and calm but becomes very loud and zealous on the battlefield. Heavy acts similarly while fighting a bear in the comics - he's doing it to feed his family but he's also having a blast while doing so. The exact same thing can be said about his job

[@galaxy4dan514]

Engineer is most likely the leader of the Blu team, he said it because he already has another job, which is to repair the Mann brothers' machines.

[@Nachotaco101]

As the joker said: if you're good at something don't do it for free

[@connorfries8297]

I don’t think soldier can have the worst case of schizophrenia when pyro exists.

[@ThatGuyCalledMyth9001]

when it comes to pyro being CEO of frontier engineering, i have to assume that happened on accident

[@VGamingJunkieVT]

Sniper was the most obvious one, since he flat out tells his Dad it's just a job in his Meet The trailer. Even if you haven't touched the comics, you know it's just money for him.

[@TrenchWarrior1917]

In my opinion I'd put Demoman in mostly money. It seems to me he enjoys some aspect of it, but idk.

[@solgerWhyIsThereAnAtItLooksBad]

3:03 Why does no one bother to actually read that line? It clearly states he went to Poland and started to kill random civilians, which makes it so much worse

[@Koppu1doragon]

2:30 Less PTSD and more like delusions of grandeur. Remember Soldier has never actually taken part of combat outside of his work as a merc, something he seems to love doing.

[@leeum20real]

according to the auto generated captions engineer is "NG Grease Monkey"💀

[@Dismentras]

I remember pyro literally killing the tf2 universe’s version of smoky the bear

[@srcoeiu6100]

You're the only guy i've seen play that weird map with the satellite from the menu screen

[@sfinn70]

How to make a good friend dynamic according to tf2: mello and sane character with loud, crazy and insane character. Like engineer and Pyro or heavy and medic. It's actually a good friend dynamic for characters tho

[@naughtymelon6712]

Engies not really in it for the money OR the killing. His family has been contracted out by the mann brothers for several generations. The work he does is barely even a job anymore. Being a mercenary is just baked into his life.

[@AlliroG98]

3:25 Isn't it also possible that he's aware of what he's doing and Pyrovision is more like a means of showing what it feels like to him?

[@Skythikon]

A psychoanalyst would point to the divide between the conscious and unconscious, and say that a person's real (unconscious) reasons for doing something are different than the reasons they can consciously put into language. Scout might be in it for the fun, while the investing is just a good enough excuse for him to believe that he's not just compelled to be there by a silly preoccupation with running while being in danger. Poor guy; if only Spy was there for him.

[@blar2112]

Heavy is in for the money to be able to keep shooting his gun that he uses to get money to shoot the gun so he can get money...

[@gymeunsyk9970]

2:24 "solider is suffering the worst case of PTSD and schizophrenia" Pyro: mmh mmhh mhh mhh

[@YourCrazyDolphin]

I would tic Medic down a tier to mostly fun: yes, he needs money to conduct his experiments so he wouldn't take a job for free, but like you said his experiments are Medic's top priority. In the end, he's taking the job that lets him do his thing the most. He had no problem turning on the tfc team the moment he wasn't allowed to do whatever he wants. Also the Pyro bit you focused a bit too much on the business man bit and not the context- the mercs were all fired for a while, he was literally only a CEO as Pyro was dropped from the team. Rehiring Pyro didn't involve any deals or money, Ms. Pauling literally jist started a fire next door and Pyro was immediately in.

[@sami_irl]

Sniper is very proud of his work. He takes great pleasure in sharpshooting.

[@yungalmonds3990]

Sniper: one’s a job, the others mental sickness

[@snowbox6625]

I would have put medic in the mostly in it for the killing tier because while yeah, the money helps him do his experiments, it is simply a means to an end for him. The money is nice, but it's simply not what he's /really/ there for

[@VampDemigod]

In my opinion, Pyro becomes the head of an investment company because they got paid for the TF2 work and have no concept of the value of money, they probably became the head of the corp because they were willing to invest basically everything.

[@zaxstarkaijein]

Scout was also originally looking into the army, but chose to be a mercenary instead because of the greater thrill. (Source: DEATH BATTLE)

[@dexterity494]

If the pyro was a merc, and then went on to a very high paying job, they're probably doing the merc job for the money.

[@ThatActualGuy]

I'd put Engineer more on the killing-side. That psychopathic smile as he watches an enemy off-screen get blown to pieces in meet the engineer, did it for me Engineers complete calm bloodlust makes me think that engineer is supposed to be some psychopath but great vid. Keep it up!

[@LeonOcto]

I'd say the tier list is also a good representation on the Merc's Mental Health

[@Arcana_zero_studios]

Look at it this way, expensive experiments need money to be preformed.

[@Unreal_scout]

Pyro actually had that succesful company on accident. Many people skipped that and still think he is a mastermind

[@winter_mint]

Great video idea and love all the comments talking about their own take on where they'd place everyone.

[@punknomad7995]

I can’t blame scout; being a merc is probably way better than being a fast food employee

[@RandomContent577]

Scout get miss Pauling Soilder we get Demo Pyro get Engineer Heavy get Medic Spy get Scout’s mom Sniper : what I get?…. Paid.

[@orangepeel4542]

As much as I love heavy and see him as one of the most moral mercs, he DEFINITELY at least takes some pleasure out of killing. You don’t even need to go deep into lore, just watch meet the medic.

[@greenisthedevilscolor784]

I think Medic should still be at least one tier lower on the list. The money is only the means to an end; satisfying his sadism and curiosity is what he's after. If he could do it for free, I'm sure the madman would still jump at the chance to be elbow-deep in someone's ribcage. Meanwhile, the mercs that are in it mostly for the money have personal reasons outside of their love for the job, like sustaining their families, or a luxurious lifestyle or... just plain wanting to have a lot of money.