Which Truck Will Leave More Money in Your Pocket?

[@vovank3730]

You never mentioned rear axel differential (rar) on your trucks! I think its very important for fuel consumption!

[@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News]

We were aiming to keep the video not too lengthy!

[@user-FTRU6GJ]

The biggest thing that needed an update was the suspension. Cascadia suspensions are horrible. Rough riding. You feel every bump in the road especially with shorter wheelbase configurations. All the new tech but they won’t upgrade the ride quality. A cascadia that could ride like a pete, volvo or a KW would be nice or at least offer front axle air bags as an option

[@somebody9785]

They call it a Freightshaker Crapcadia for a reason 🤗

[@victorsuarez2954]

You are absolutely right

[@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News]

Thanks for sharing!

[@jim-zx7gz]

What happened? Years ago a century and a classic actually rode pretty good. Disappointed when a truck manufacturer doesn't care about the driver .

[@Foxty36]

In 2014 I bought a brand new 2015 model Cascadia with a 505HP DD15 and a DT12 transmission. It was awesome on fuel, I did import export with it from TX to AB mostly. I love the comfort and room. I miss that truck.

[@pedgar789]

Also... Have you thought about having just One drive live axle? I drove a Peterbilt like it, necer an issue. In Europe they pull as much weight or more, probably eith just One pulling axle. The weight reduction may pay off. What about ordering with disc brakes, i stead of drums, another huge weight reduction. Great video. 😊

[@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News]

We'll look into that!

[@johnnyloveful3818]

10-4 on the break down, going broke in the fast lane for all the wrong reasons 🙈💰🇨🇦

[@wojnowski01]

You should get in touch with Kevin Rutherford from let’s truck, Bruce from Pittsburg power, and Matt from alpha trucking. They are industry mpg lovers. I think if you look at them and join forces everyone would be better for it.

[@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News]

We'll check them out!

[@darylb5564]

I’m guessing my 23 Cascadia averages 8.5. I have a diesel apu and I’m pretty religious about not idling. We get a bonus for staying under 6%. My heavy loads are about 40% and I’m in the hills about 70% of the time. Oddly enough the rain kills my mpg. I sometimes 1.5 mpg in the rain. Basically everything electronic shuts down when it rains. I asked my boss yesterday to please sell it and give me a new one but she said we don’t have one at the moment. Hopefully it’ll be gone soon. It has 142,000 miles on it. By the way it’s governed at 69. Ironically I’m watching your video waiting for a storm to pass😂

[@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News]

Your mileage sounds about right.

[@pedgar789]

Eager to see the mpg on new international eith Scania powertrain. Looks promising.

[@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News]

Definitely!

[@Germany._.Kit77]

Sample 3 trucks driving Edmonton to Denver tx 1 driver using most cruise control instead pushing gas pedal flour, did 2 vehicles same trip using 1.2 tankfil

[@edwardtrucker8678]

Ronen, thx for the research, but would be great if you will track the down time due to def systems and repair expenses when this not covered by warranty to each unit, I prefer to stick to my old trucks 2009 cascadia with no def 7.6mpg and 2002 freightliner classic 6.7 mpg but no def problems

[@deedee2948]

Remember in Canada winter diesel has less power so your mileage goes down compared to summer.

[@supertruckertom]

Just got into a new Kenworth T680 running LTL team. We put 281,000 on a Cascadia in 10 months. Before that 998k on an International in 3 years. All ISX 450 hp 12 speed auto. Cascadia would stay 7.9 to 8.1 mpg over 50k miles. No APU. I love this KENWORTH. So stable and great lane holding. 30 years with a CDlL, used to own a Freightliner Classic. This truck rides better. Is stonger, better fuel economy.

[@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News]

Sounds like you've had some good trucks

[@kmg501]

11 to 12 miles per gallon would be astounding, so I'm not going to believe it until enough reliable sources have weighed in.

[@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News]

That's a safe approach!

[@kentr2424]

I've used both the Diesel APU and the Battery Pack APU and I much, much prefer the Diesel APU. I hate the Freightliner battery pack APU because in summer time when the A/C is on the batteries drain to the point that the engine has to start about 6-8 hrs into the 10 hrs off and the damn engine IMMEDIATELY revs to about 1200 rpm! Not only does it jolt me out of a sound sleep, I'm quite sure going to 1200 rpm immediately on startup is NOT good for the engine as the oil doesn't have a chance to get to the top of the engine. As you're well aware Ronen, idle time isn't necessarily the biggest factor a driver or corporation can control in fuel consumption (although it does play a large role). You've provided us with the engine and transmission specs - but what is the rear axle ratio on both the 21's and 25's? Keeping the rpms down at highway speeds is also a major factor in fuel consumption, along with the terrain (ET usually runs US Midwest, Ontario east, and US Eastern Seaboard, correct?) and load weight. I was running a 2017 Pete 579 with a PACCAR MX13 engine and automated transmission, (not sure what the rear axle ratio was) pulling an average of 76,000 to 78,000 lbs from Mira Loma, CA, to Calgary AB, and I'd get an average (according to the truck and math) of about 7.5 mpg. Naturally, the mileage would be anywhere from .25 to .5 gallon less during winter. I considered that good mileage because I'd be climbing from near sea level in CA to 3000+ ft elevation in Utah, then I'd be going through the mountains in Montana. I would fuel in St George UT, and again in Shelby MT (952 miles) and would fill between 130 - 140 gallons in Shelby. The truck did have a TriPac diesel APU, so idle time was minimal (I did idle the engine during the pretrip to get the oil flowing). Does the amount of fuel saved equal or exceed the cost of a new unit over the unit's lifespan? How long does ET usually keep its company units? If the '21 is paid off (or about to be) is it worth it to spend $200K plus the diesel APU on a new '25?

[@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News]

That's a great insight about the APUs. The rear axle ratio is definitely a critical part of the equation!

[@pedgar789]

HI , great video. I run a DD13 425 hp, with an Allison automatic, pulls great. 79900 all the time. Have you thought about going to a DD13 ? Is 10 % smaller in displacement, and can be order up to 525 hp ( which you may not need) 😂. The DD 13 is pretty much similar to DD15, and DD16. Just smaller. DD13, compares better to Volvo s 13 liter . It may pay off for you trying the DD13.

[@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News]

We'll keep that in mind

[@berthelvetic1923]

Allison gearbox is a fuelhoog.

[@YvhenP]

thanks for the analytics 🇺🇦

[@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News]

Thanks for watching!

[@marcoscassab4214]

Just bought a Intenrational LT with the new International S13 engine and transmission. First month with it i did 12,173 KM (7,580 miles) and had 3.79 KM/Liter (8.91 MPG), we are from mexico. Have you heard anything about this engine? like your videos, hope you can talk sometimes about mexico.

[@pedgar789]

Scania is Very popular Worldwide. They dominate the more competitive truck market in the world, Europe, as well in South America. A relative from Colombia have one, pulling 35 tons, plus weight of truck with a 13 liter Scania. Liqui gas propane, not diesel. 12 speed auto. Great truck. You will love your Scania powertrain. Scania es muy buen camión. Saludos amigó en México, desde Colombia. 🤗

[@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News]

We don't spec International so it's pretty out of our area of expertise

[@IronBlockChef]

Whatever one is paid off, that’s the one that will be more profitable

[@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News]

True that. Also whatever one is better taken care of!

[@kennethsnyder9236]

I’m aware of my fuel ⛽️ consumption. I will do whatever it takes to build up the mileage to fuel, even if I have to run my unit at 60 mph. Currently I’m driving a 2024 Cascadia with ele interior comfort zone. I live in my truck for at least 6 wks. I’m constantly considering fuel consumption for hours resting. 7.8 mpg is average for each week and depending upon the job, 7.4-8.7. I have achieved 11.3 empty. Not withstanding the total picture. I’m leaving this to you-

[@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News]

Sounds like you're really paying attention to fuel economy!

[@coreysmith2196]

My 2016 Volvo 780 says it gets 7.1 mpg it has less than 700,000 miles its paid off and i stay going 75mph. I had it turned up to 515hp(they say torque don't change on Volvos😏) and its ungoverned. My issue with buying a new truck is i like to work when i want too,thats why i became an owner operator just for myself. I used to have 14 trucks and 40 trailers about 14 years ago,having to book loads and trust that contracts stay in line is kinda pointless. I like being able to look at my bills and say i can work 15-20 days,clear $12k & just be at home without worrying about having to run to make $5k for a truck and trailer note and insurance, plus my house bills. More drivers should do this,so it's not so hard out here and your home life doesn't falter,cause most truckers are divorced and you are a stranger in your own home😅😅😅

[@ManuelNavarro-x2r]

Ronen very good info,,,

[@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News]

Thanks for watching!

[@Brararaf101]

I get over 7.5 13 speed cummings pete 579 sometimes even 8 depending on grade season and weight

[@jeremiahcosta5830]

I get about 8.5 mpg average with my 23 cascaidia and that’s with about 10% idle time

[@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News]

Nice nice!

[@supermarioxs1]

Ronan you forgot to mention, I think n probably almost all of your videos. What are you hauling? general not necessarily specific type of freight and what’s the average weight of the trailer or the load which is going to be a very huge factor on your fuel economy kind of a no-brainer..

[@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News]

Mostly dry van and reefer freight, in the cases of flatbed, we are usually running connestogas. All in all, nothing oversized

[@supermarioxs1]

Dry van , less than 30K lbs I get 8.5 to 9 plus mpg. Over 30K I get 8 to 8.4 and 40K + 7.2 to 7.7 depending on weight distribution. Thats being more specific than just saying I get avg 8.5 mpg.

[@uncleal13]

Joel Morrow runs Volvo breaking 11 US mpg he puts actual data on Facebook all the time. His brother owns Ploger Transportation and runs Volvos for years.

[@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News]

We'll check him out!

[@rd5991]

I know you say the Volvos eat more fuel, have you checked out the D13TC engine specifically? I’ve been getting 8.5-9 out of a company truck. The d13 gets worse consumption but this setup uses turbo compounding going directly to the drivetrain. Specifically the 455/1850tq package. They cruise at like 1050-1100 rpm.

[@void308]

Damn

[@user-FTRU6GJ]

I don’t understand these low HP/Torque specs. You will get better MPGs on a higher spec like 505HP because these engine doesn’t have to work as hard. Also driving a 400-450HP truck with lower torque is horrible to drive

[@Artur_Khazin]

I wonder how long those engines will last. Can you even make it to the end of the 5-year lease.

[@George-49x]

A question the company i work for is running mostly new Detroit engines westernstar not freightliner but all detroit. and 6 of them 2023-2025 but our fuel usage is a lot higher than your stats given here. your trucks are geared a lot higher than our trucks are. could you do a video about the details on what RPMs the trucks are running at speed and maybe explain a bit how a gear ratio works. and how do they perform in the hills and what do your experience drivers say about the trucks. for the most part we are fairly happy with these trucks as far as maintenance but would like to get better fuel economy. as a company driver i would love to go back to the old truck but from a financial and company stand point i understand why companies don't just run old trucks.

[@slayer77000]

My 2002 geys 7 loaded and 8-9 my. D12.7

[@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News]

Impressive!

[@NextLevelFarmerDotCom]

What is your axel ratio speck for an 80,000 pound tuck, trailer and load? I would think that would effect mileage. Also what aerodynamic package are you putting on your truck and trailer? Is it driving in Canada or the USA? What is a picture of your trucks?

[@singh853_5]

New freight shakers after Covid have gone downhill. Cummins motors have been better lately

[@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News]

Is that so?

[@singh853_5]

@ Yes, new Freight shakers have so many issues.

[@knightranger1783]

Please tell about how heavy the load is? Also from what pick up city, state to the drop city, state You only explain 1/4 of the equation of fuel mileage.

[@samo8204]

Thank you!

[@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News]

You are most welcome!

[@DanSkUa]

3 years in a row don’t know battery problems. I have Freightliner Smart park system (HVAC) with wet system bunk heater.

[@jamesmartin3895]

there's a 2025 Scania R770 in the USA and bobtail from Boston port down to Tennessee average speed was 70mph average mpg was10 going from Tennessee to Iowa 80 truck stop pulling a rgn with a gmc 3500 pickup on it grossing 62000lbs he was averaging 9mph running 70mph his KZbin channel is bruce willson

[@pedgar789]

Scania is great!

[@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News]

That sounds like a great truck!

[@waltmiller]

Where your specs? Axle ratio? To compare the fuel economy difference between a semi-truck achieving 7.1 mpg versus 8.1 mpg over 6,000 miles per month, let’s calculate the fuel usage and cost for each scenario. Summary Fuel used per month: 7.1 mpg: ~845 gallons 8.1 mpg: ~741 gallons Monthly fuel cost savings: ~$418 Annual fuel cost savings: ~$5,011 Takeaway Improving fuel efficiency by 1 mpg (from 7.1 to 8.1 mpg) saves over $5,000 annually for a truck driving 6,000 miles monthly at $4/gallon diesel.

[@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News]

2.64

[@salvador670]

I get 8 miles per galllon with my volvo vnl 670 d13 with an auto 12 speed transmission. I run local I dont idle my truck but my truck has 720k miles

[@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News]

Nice!

[@johncalvo1743]

Ronin, what about the rear ratio? That is very important. What ratio do you spec your trucks at?

[@mtransport2144]

Probably with 3.08

[@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News]

2.64

[@IronBlockChef]

@@NorthAmerican-Trucking-Newsone of the worst ratios for hills

[@johncalvo1743]

@@IronBlockChef What ratio would you recommend for someone who runs the Western 11 like me?

[@IronBlockChef]

@@johncalvo1743 I have 2.64s on my truck and it’s a dog up any hills , 3.55 is good for hills or 3.73

[@George-49x]

Gear ratio makes a huge difference and it drives me nuts that people always ignore that especially a KZbinr like yourself. Don’t pretend to be stupid give us your gear ratio!!! Oh and by the way a truck driver’s money comes the right loads and the right company not by driving the truck that’s cheapest on fuel but fuel usage does matter

[@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News]

2.64

[@George-49x]

@ wow that’s high geared. Do your drivers like that ? And do you have the eCoast ON or OFF?

[@roberajinfessa9114]

Nice cut 👍🏾

[@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News]

Thanks!

[@Goal-2-Go]

Just a suggestion here. Why don't you calculate out the real figure averages instead of rounding up to one and then 2 mi per gallon.?? Your savings numbers are inflated... Your new freightliners are getting 8.2 on high and I'll say 8 on average.. you're 21 freightliners we're getting an average 7.5, 7.6..

[@anonymousl6300]

Nobody says 11 mpg on new Volvo They advertise 10% more fuel efficiency So, calculate how much is it In my case it will be 6.8 +10%(0.68)=7.48 mpg No 11-12mpg

[@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News]

In your case, possibly

[@TechnoTruckerDUDE]

2024 t680 gets an average of 9mog to about 10mpg. Highest i saw in the Midwest was ridiculously good 👍 13mpg to 15mpg. The 2025 t680 is the worst I drove. Average 8mpg. Highest 11mpg. Lowest 6mpg

[@brcarlos]

Why cap at 65? If you drive faster you lose mpg, but gains daily mileage. Have you considered this on your calculations?

[@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News]

Yes we are. 65 is a balance point allowing you to gain the best mileage while keeping your daily mileage at a moderate level. More than that and you start to see a significant decline in that mpg and any lower and your daily mileage becomes unbearable. So 62-65 is that sweet spot we've found

[@user-FTRU6GJ]

@@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News great for insurance rates as well

[@krashanb5767]

​@@NorthAmerican-Trucking-Newsgoing to the West Coast at those speeds feels like dying 😅

[@Robbie64]

Is the fuel savings worth it if you are down days/weeks for repairs of things not in stock or backordered vs running a 6.5mpg truck that can get repaired relatively quick and continue to make money while you are sitting?

[@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News]

That's under the assumption the two are intertwined. You are not forced into long downtime by virtue of running a newer truck. It's how you run, not what you run. If it were as simple as spending days or weeks down, then we, a fleet that runs primarily Freightliner Cascadias, would be out of business by now. The key is to stay on top of your maintenance. Once you do that, you can enjoy avoiding long repair times and high fuel efficiency at the same time! Amazing innit?

[@kennykedits]

The only issue my frightliner had was def ghost codes. So if it was def deleted then the truck would've 0 brake downs in 320k miles

[@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News]

Thanks for sharing!

[@stanleybest8833]

You will get 11 miles per gallon from a loaded rig if you hitch a team of 30 oxen. Don't be jived. I want to predict the future. The diesel APU's are golden, but you're going to get a black eye from the battery APU's. I believe most diesel trucks will get great or bad mileage according to how they are driven. Year, motor, color? It doesn't matter.

[@rajsaini2496]

Make a vedio on how to put truck in trucking company for person who is new in this field and dont want to be a driver

[@MS-oz2wu]

Its good for you. You gotta big outfit. Not good for a new guy just starting out. But, R u kiding me. The costs, in every way, r to outrageous to support the idea that they get better fuel mileage. You got major costs of purchase, down time do to problems with new stuff, primarily the DEF system. No way a new guy can afford these trucks and build a business.

[@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News]

We appreciate your insights!

[@Germany._.Kit77]

More then that one using cruise set to 105 km max

[@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News]

Hmm

[@edwinvelasquez6879]

Neither!! Buy an old truck with an old motor they’re cheaper to rebuild and has less electronics. You should do a comparison of old vs new my 2003 Freightliner classic xl with a 600hp custom tuned Detroit is getting 6.7mpg average

[@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News]

That's not bad at all

[@garzad28]

Do you have any stats on solar panel apu

[@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News]

Not presently, no

[@johncalvo1743]

The thing about the Cascadia is that the interiors are garbage. Everything is cheaply made and falls apart. I'm in a 2021 Penske rental right now, and half the steering controls are either missing or don't work.

[@mtransport2144]

Made in Mexico 🇲🇽 what do you expect

[@kmg501]

Rentals are treated like garbage.

[@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News]

There are definitely improvements to be made

[@bicyclenerd.9377]

Dude try Volvo. Volvo I think is the worse. Interior plastic are very cheap and easy to break. I drove both freightliner and volvo. I prefer Volvo. But freightliner is more reliable emission system and electronics. Volvo engine sounds a little better.

[@JustAnotherTrader]

Can you include AVERAGE SPEED in the future?

[@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News]

We'll endeavor to do so!

[@bryanjensen5357]

Weight?

[@Jay-bk5sl]

You save 7400 but lose cause of dpf brake downs

[@kenn2632]

BINGO 🎯 💯 ‼️ 👌🏾

[@kmg501]

That's why you sell them at about 350k miles.

[@Jay-bk5sl]

@kmg501 they brake down before 350k

[@kmg501]

@@Jay-bk5sl Stop idling them.

[@Jay-bk5sl]

@kmg501 even if you don't idle they brake down

[@Tlmmy-y3y]

So you have a bunch of trucks causing huge amount of traffic blocking the hills and passing another truck that ls governed stuck in the passing lane for a hour to be passed again by the same truck that ls lighter down the other side and men who drive real power are stuck behind your rig's that causes a lot of road rage

[@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News]

Pretty farfetched idea

[@jim-zx7gz]

@@Tlmmy-y3y I agree. Real world is different from driving a desk

[@bigdaddystep.]

$200k to $30k in 3 years.

[@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News]

👀

[@billhendon1017]

Wow

[@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News]

Indeed!

[@berthelvetic1923]

No truck after manufacturing 2004 will make you money. They are all money pits, without the possibility to rebuild are take care. And the exhaust system is the same amount of money as the engine. And I believe only this statistics I have falsified on my on ( Winston Churchill). The fuel economy after 2004 , with the new emissions standard go downhill.

[@Foxty36]

The trouble with Volvo back in 2015 was the service and parts prices.

[@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News]

What do you reckon the problem is now?

[@Foxty36]

@@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News I'm not sure I know. I always liked driving the Volvo myself. I just didn't buy one in 2014 because I looked at the price of turbos and other parts and they were more for the Volvo, and also my friends would have their Volvo's parked for warranty work for sometimes 2 weeks because of lines. Personally I prefer the Detroit power because it resembles Cat with the low end torque. Nowadays it's probably all preference I suppose.

[@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News]

Thanks for sharing!

[@AccountInactive]

Neither. Trucking is a goddamn trap. Don't join or get out while you can.

[@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News]

Aish

[@bobbyloads]

65mph that’s super don’t drivers get upset?

[@xidptl]

Whoever said truck makes you money 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News]

Only if you know what you're doing!

[@xidptl]

@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News appreciate your comment but if you really knew what you were doing then you could be doing something that has better returns then driving a truck but i know what you meant

[@Ta-TanicaC]

Can you put me In a 2025 truck please

[@juliogonzo2718]

Can you put me in a 2005? 😂

[@berthelvetic1923]

Not you, the manager need education. Senseless. Educate your drivers and pay accordingly. There is your money.

[@edgarcorreiamelo]

65 mph governed... Torture driving slow like that ...

[@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News]

I reckon it's worse driving faster, too many accidents, not enough time to react due to fast driving. You get good mileage, better efficiency, slower rate of wear and tear on parts and the bonus of having a lot more ease in reacting to hazards and accidents

[@AirJockey100]

Nothing is gonna make those Freightliners look any better. They speed around recklessly, driven by knuckleheads who shouldn’t even be on the road in cars. Trucking lost its pride with trucks like these. I detest them

[@kmg501]

The brand of truck is irrelevant to your complaint.

[@AirJockey100]

@ They’re stupid trucks and you need your ears boxed

[@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News]

One would assume that people can speed around recklessly in just about any truck

[@truckercowboyed2638]

You sound ignorant

[@AirJockey100]

@@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News And yet these are the trucks that you see out there doing it. They’re cheap and full of ignorant drivers.

[@ObamFJB]

When everything else is exactly the same, two things that WILL meaningfully impact your fuel economy for an otr truck is the axle ratio and the wheelbase measurement. Your video left out these two of the most important key information. This shows you have no clue as to what your talking about when it comes to spec-ing a truck. Wheelbase meaningfully impacts the aerodynamics…

[@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News]

Thanks for sharing!

[@Alecboldly]

65? Blacklist your company as a company driver

[@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News]

Why is that?

[@fashionstreet1]

Well why do you guys take away the horsepower? 😮😮

[@kmg501]

I imagine because he has found a sweet spot by doing that. When you run fleets you can figure things out that small operators won't see.

[@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News]

You guys?

[@Andreyyak]

Detroit engine is garbage!

[@NorthAmerican-Trucking-News]

You think so?

[@Andreyyak]

@ yes, I know I’m pretty sure it’s garbage stay away from Detroit engine