I have and will keep the bb41 on jubilee bracelet and the BB54 for my 7.1 inch wrist. Though they might look very similar, they are, IMO, two different watches concerning the wearing experience. Right now, I am enjoying my bb54 on a beautiful brown-tobacco alligator strap and this neo-vintage look is just top-notch. This afternoon, under a beautiful sun, my beafy BB41 was glowing at its jubilee!
@JohnnyBeans-w9k25 күн бұрын
I’m a Tudor fanboy and have the Pro, Pelagos 42 blue date, gmt opaline dial and BB41 red bezel. I can’t wait to try on the 54 and gmt Coke.
@hurricanepaul14 ай бұрын
I would like to see a bb58 or a bb54 monochrome w/metas and T fit clasp.
@thewatchidiot4 ай бұрын
Hopefully those are in the pipeline!
@JizzyNinja4 ай бұрын
Surprised you didn’t mention dial size and bezel proportions. For me, that was a huge factor - I find the bezel to dial ratio on the 58 off and prefer the 41’s the most.
@GuruforadayАй бұрын
Nice review! Love the comparison. I really like the watch, I think the 3-link would be great if it didn’t have the …rivets. I think the toolynesss would improve with a non rivitet 3 link!
@theenavybluemonster4 ай бұрын
BB58 navy blue is the one for me. Improved the bracelet with 2 Uncle Straps half links and the Steel Reef on the fly adjustment. Love it.
@thewatchidiot4 ай бұрын
I'm glad that uncle straps and steel reef did what Tudor should have done from the start! Glad to hear you're enjoying your BB58!
@Andy5kp4 ай бұрын
Did you find the 2 uncle half links helped? I’ve got 1 uncle half link for my BB58, but the fit still doesn’t feel right. Was wondering if a second half link would do the trick?
@theenavybluemonster4 ай бұрын
@@Andy5kp Each “half link” is more like a 2/3 link. So I use 2 “half links” together at the bend of the long clasp on the 12 side which hugs it closely. The 2 “half links” = 1 1/3 full link. This gave me an extra 1/3 full link to work with besides the 3 micro adjustments on the clasp for a better fit. So I was able to get a great fit with the 2 “half links” but also opted to add the Steel Reef 5mm on the fly adjustment link to have all the bells and whistles for my bracelet. Hope that helps.
@Andy5kp4 ай бұрын
@@theenavybluemonster Thanks for the info, that’s great. I’ll be ordering a second half link today! It’s a shame such a great watch doesn’t come with the T-Fit clasp
@theenavybluemonster4 ай бұрын
@@Andy5kp Hope the second half link helps you get a better fit. I believe it should but all our wrists are different along with our preferences and tolerances.
@brunogravena97424 ай бұрын
the difference to me from that black bay 41 to the 58 is that awesome blue colour on the 58, put it on the 41 with its movement and the 58 hight. thats perfect
@rampantcolt3 ай бұрын
I got the 41 monochrome. No regrets
@Frank-qs3pe4 ай бұрын
Rubber straps just do it for any diver regardless of brand , I love them on my Seiko’s.
@richardbaldwin95024 ай бұрын
Have the black 58 in blue .had to get the uncle half link now fits perfectly my first luxury watch loving it
@drewgunn31344 ай бұрын
i got the half link for my BB58 blue as well. Such a perfect fit now
@carlomiguelsy15954 ай бұрын
The answer is Pelagos….. pelagos is best :P
@vianouche14 ай бұрын
Looks like plastic
@carlomiguelsy15954 ай бұрын
@@vianouche1 shiny plastic! :P
@JuanSegarra-td6yr4 ай бұрын
I have the Pro, BB41, BBgmt opaline dial and Pelagos blue date. The all can be divers.
@marcgirard75514 ай бұрын
Great walk through! I’d choose the recent BB41 I think as they seem to have gotten the proportions right and I have a 7-inch wrist. The 58 would be excellent too… I recently saw the 54 in a shop and was shocked by how small the dial looked. My Khaki Field Auto 38 looked big in comparison as did the BB58 next to it in the window
@thewatchidiot4 ай бұрын
Thanks Marc! The BB58 is great but yeah I was amazed by how much of a difference the proportion tweaks make for the BB41 in real life. Tudor did well with it. Lol yeah there's no getting around the fact that the BB54 is a small watch but it's got character!
@kevinthailand25674 ай бұрын
Yep I almost bought a BB58 Blue today but no Metas and no on the fly adjustment which is why I wanted to update from my vintage TAG blue dial so I passed. I will wait. Or just trade in my black Hamilton Cooper and get the black BB41 😂😂🎉
@anthonystevens86834 ай бұрын
Another top subjective and objective review TWI. I've not tried the BB54 or the BB41, I do have a BB58 black dial version though. but here are my thoughts. I love my BB58 as it was designed to look like a classic hence the guilt look and that's what I wanted when I purchased it some years ago. I love the BB41 monochrome though, its a more modern look on the classic and is more of a modern tool watch but I still prefer the Pelagos in that respect. I also really like the BB54 but if I were to split hairs I'm not too sure about the guilt dial and the monochrome bezel but as I mentioned I've not seen one in the flesh yet. I have to agree that the bezel action on the Tudor divers is incredible. If I didn't have any Tudor watches today but was looking to consider a purchase I think it would be the Pelagos 39 or the LHD. Oh and I miss the snowflake seconds hand on the new models. Now a monochrome BB54? That could be tempting. As always many thanks for sharing.
@DaksheshCorado4 ай бұрын
MaMaCoo has set a new standard for replica watches. Their craftsmanship is impeccable. Its hard to tell the difference from the originals
@jonebm3 ай бұрын
Great video, thanks. May I ask which bracelet is used on the BB58 here?
@thewatchidiot3 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! the BB58 bracelet is the 3 link from Strapcode!
@galaga88344 ай бұрын
BB58 blue. Most comfortable and perfect proportions. 21mm lug width is terrible on the BB41.
@edshamaham57194 ай бұрын
Oh man the BB41 Monochrome is looking fantastic on that green sailcloth looking strap? Great comparison and it's weird to see how relatively similar they are in terms of size
@thewatchidiot4 ай бұрын
Yeah I got that strap for my longines szt actually and tried it out on the BB41 and it worked really nicely by chance! But yeah i still cant believe how similar in size the BB58 and BB41 are, definitely a nice change from the BB41s of old lol!
@fengxueshanshenmiao4 ай бұрын
a monochrome 54 or 58 would be lit tho fr
@ikharl3284 ай бұрын
What rubber straps are u using
@scollyutube4 ай бұрын
None have a date option? Would prefer a Pelegos over all of those 3 anyway. Titanium is awesome to wear as a sports tool watch.
@kresimirpleic4 ай бұрын
I don't like the look of the jubilee bracelet on the Monochrome model. The 54 looks amazing but it's just too small. I think it would have worked better as an updated 58.
@ccooper87854 ай бұрын
The BB54 is a nice watch but Watchdives do a mecaquartz homage which is superior in every way that matters (more robust and massively more accurate) all for only $90 !!!!
@MadariDaniels4 ай бұрын
My watch was purchased 2 years ago from amzwatch and, to this day, it still looks and runs as well as it did the day it arrived. That movement has never missed a beat despite never having been serviced. I can't complain about that.
@LindaBui-s3o4 ай бұрын
you’re literally my comfort person i love you #amzwatch ! I'm saving up for my next watch.
@gavinwhite97434 ай бұрын
I choose the 14060M Submariner because it delivers a modern movement in a small case, is widely available, has no date, and delivers visually what these homages wish they were. I highly recommend a rubberb strap if you want a comfy summer fit, as the tailored fit they offer avoids the annoying gap you can get with other straps. Not much more money, and it won't depreciate like any of these models. It has Rolex on the front, but I've learned to live with that.
@MaryDoherty-q6b4 ай бұрын
got my 39mm with the white dial on the 3-link "Bader" bracelet watch on MaMaCoo 3 weeks ago and am loving it to pieces. Absolute fantastic watch that wears super comfortable on my 6.75 inch wrist. Chose the 3-link over the 5-link bracelet for the toolless quick adjustment. Way more comfortable than my Longines Hydroconquest 41 mm.
@TanYeeLer4 ай бұрын
Oris 65 any of the LE 38mm. Oris 65 40mm
@PanuTiihonen4 ай бұрын
Bb58 blue out of those. Curse of the skinny wrist and slight favour of modern designs over vintage wibe.Monochome 58 wpuld be awesome but would step on the toes of the Pelagos line maybe.
@thewatchidiot4 ай бұрын
Yeah a monochrome BB58 would be pretty cool but close to a Pelagos 39. But then again not really that close all things considered! Fingers crossed for more monochrome BBs!
@Andurs4 ай бұрын
best black bay is without a doubt the panda chrono, not even close in my opinion. it feels looks and wears like a proper watch, probably my favorite watch overall ever so might be biased
@thewatchidiot4 ай бұрын
I'll have to give it a second look by the sound of it lol! Glad to hear that you're enjoying it as much as you are😁
@hurricanepaul14 ай бұрын
The other day I was trying the bezel on an exhibition submariner side by side with a bb58. Bb58 was way more satisfying, crisp, clicky. The sub felt mushy. Maybe its been over used as exhibition im not sure.
@thewatchidiot4 ай бұрын
I think the difference really comes down to 60 vs 120 clicks, I totally agree that the 60 click BB bezels have a more satisfying click but for me getting a 120 click bezel to have defined clicks (albeit smoother clicks) is quite special although there could have been something wrong with the sub!
@joshuakaplan57264 ай бұрын
Once they slim the Pro down to the new Coke size, that'll be the balls. As for your lineup in the video, i'd choose the 54 based on size and wearability. I got the biggest wow factor when I tried that bad larry on. But I'd just wait for it to become METAS certified. Tudor needs to lock in how how they get current catalogue METAS certified and with T-fit bracelets.
@thewatchidiot4 ай бұрын
Yeah a slimmed down BB Pro will be a fantastic watch no doubt I'm sure that's coming up soon. And hopefully the tfit finds it's way on to the BB58 line now that the BB58 GMT has it and then more metas watches as well every year until they all have metas movements and tfit clasps! That'll be a good day
@lihanou4 ай бұрын
I chose 54 because it had its own identity. Monochrome screams I can’t afford a Rolex and bb58 is less refined than 54.
@dspserpico4 ай бұрын
I kinda agree about the monochrome, but that jubilee bracelet tho.
@rampageashton4 ай бұрын
Different take. For me The 54 is too small for my wrist. I can just get away with the 58. I have a blue one. I think its a better propotioned watch anyway. ¹I don't think the 41 is I can't afford a rolex. I currently have a 40mm, 2018 sub no date and a 2024 OP41. The Rolex is dominated by the ceramic bezel, I much prefer an aluminium bezel. I own a 2023 Steel and Gold blackbay, which I bought as my 11613ln steel and gold sub was battered and i let it go, no point keeping an expensive watch you're not wearing. And the tudor is better made that that 2009 rolex, by a million miles. . I'm considering the monochrome as I prefer the bezels. I'd wear both.
@Ryuu92i4 ай бұрын
I think the Monochrome with the jubilee bracelet has its own identity as the jubilee would not fit the actual Submariner that feels more sporty, bulky than this Black Bay. But if you chose the oyster-style bracelet on the Monochrome, then yes it's kind of a poor man's Rolex.
@michaelriera62774 ай бұрын
I looked at the 54 first because everyone raved at how perfect it was, but I just found it so dull…my personal opinion and I hope it brings you years of joy,. I ended up with the black BB58. The 58 felt so well made and perfectly proportioned for a sports watch. It borrows from classic Tudors and Rolex without being a slave to an exact copy . It really is its own thing. The gilt bezel gives the 58 a warm feel, the red triangle offers a pop of color paying homage to the Tudor/Rolex Big Crown, the chunky coin edge crown is so satisfying to wind with a refined matching coin edge bezel and I love the snow flake seconds hand. It’s different from the more traditional lollipop style. By the way, 39 mm is on the smaller side for a modern sized sports watch. I think anything smaller is playing vintage territory.
@KeepingWatchUK4 ай бұрын
The 54’s a bit feminine & tiny though innit.
@maitrehg4 ай бұрын
BB41 Monochrome. Better size for men. No gilt looks way better. More versatile. METAS. A no brainer
@emreisiklarАй бұрын
All 😂
@brunogravena97424 ай бұрын
dont know why the black bay 54 looks boring to me even if it has just past a year
@derekbrettell81214 ай бұрын
I appreciate the Black Bay for what it is but its a Submariner and its not close the level of finishing either. The heart will always want the Submariner
@DawnPeterson-l8h4 ай бұрын
that was incredible. what a beautiful watch and what great work you did on it!amzwatch
@ads-porewealth964 ай бұрын
the 54 on your wrist looks like an actual button. Do you also wear super skinny trousers 3 sizes too small? ;-)
@krivokoraivan89414 ай бұрын
Есть только Submariner. Всё остальное - жалкие копии. Жалею, что десять лет назад не купил себе Tudor Sub за смешные по нынешним временам деньги. Сейчас, конечно, они того не стоят. И Rolex Sub никак не оправдывают свою стоимость. А современные поделки Tudor - это просто посмешище, по моему скромному мнению. Что такое Black Bay? Это настолько стремное имя и настолько тупая маркетинговая легенда, что Tudor даже стесняются писать Black Bay на циферблатах своих часов. Поймите меня правильно, я люблю часы, я обожаю дайверские часы, но современные производители не могут мне ничего предложить, что имело бы хоть какую-то историческую ценность за разумные деньги.
@samuelkim26114 ай бұрын
I don’t like Tudor.
@kbarnbrook49934 ай бұрын
Nah! I prefer walkers and XL, rather than a canny bag of Tudor.
@coffeeboyclips19734 ай бұрын
Just buy a seiko until you have saved up enough for a Rolex, Tudor is a pointless brand.
@michaelriera62774 ай бұрын
But what if you like Tudor, why does it have to be one or the other? I love the less flashy look of my BB58 at least when compared to a modern Sub.
@DonaldForleo4 ай бұрын
My watch was purchased 2 years ago from MaMaCoo and, to this day, it still looks and runs as well as it did the day it arrived. That movement has never missed a beat despite never having been serviced. I can't complain about that.
@AshleyAlgire4 ай бұрын
I have to say that #amzwatch 's watches is amazing!
@JenniferJones-t8f4 ай бұрын
that was incredible. what a beautiful watch and what great work you did on it!amzwatch