White Crane Fist vs Wing Chun.

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The history of the appearance of The White Crane Fist and Wing Chun is similar. In both names it is a style created by a nun,
who was watching a crane and according to her observation she created a style using flexible force. The movements in both styles are very similar. What is the reason and how are these two styles connected? Today you will know the answer.
The Master of Style Wuzu Quan, Chinese martial arts historian, the author of dozens of books - Zhou Kun Min, will tell you the whole truth.

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@HealthFitnessMartialArtsDEng
@HealthFitnessMartialArtsDEng 4 жыл бұрын
From my understanding, White Crane is the base root and inspiration for Wing Chun. The first rendition of White Crane came about in the 1500's and as it evolved, Wing Chun came about during the 1600's. Both were developed by female Shaolin monks, Fan Quinlang and Ng Mui, respectively. So the lineage is a bit older than what the master had mentioned in the video.
@Livingtree32
@Livingtree32 4 жыл бұрын
These are popular folk stories, not actual history. The existence of Ng Mui and Fang Qiniang can not be proven and in fact the attributions to them were first made since the Hongkong and Taiwan eras of the two styles. Moreover most styles in this area are from about 19th century, the very oldest from the 18th.
@HealthFitnessMartialArtsDEng
@HealthFitnessMartialArtsDEng 4 жыл бұрын
@@Livingtree32 Tell that to my grandfather who's passed this down from our family lineage over the past 400 years. Just kidding. As with all the styles, just amazing how it's gotten passed down over time.
@Magne-ficent
@Magne-ficent 7 жыл бұрын
I first started learning crane and when I talked to Sifu hawkins cheung he first mentioned: 'What do you know crane?' How he knew that I don't know but later he just taught me wing chun. Crane is still there, inherent in wing chun.
@VTSifuSteve
@VTSifuSteve Ай бұрын
Agreed. Southern Crane boxing from Fujian was one of the main ancestors of both Fo'shan Wing Chun and Okinawan Karate. It seems likely that by the late 19th Century that Crane's origin story about Fang Qiniang simply morphed into the Ng Mui and Wing Chun stories as the systems were passed down in Fo'shan. What's interesting to me is how the martial arts with ancestry in Crane boxing , like Karate and Wing Chun, diverged so far and in so many ways. Neither looks (or "feels") like the other, yet both still bear some traits, some shared DNA that clearly harkens back to this common ancestor.
@MakCw
@MakCw 7 жыл бұрын
The yong chun they were referring to is a place in fujian province. Not that Wing Chun. My goodness. Some of you. Whenever in doubt, ask a chinese. Yong chun bai he quan. Not wing chun quan.
@Gieszkanne
@Gieszkanne 7 жыл бұрын
Yong Chun Quan is just mandarin for cantonese Wing Chun Kuen!
@thomasargiro5900
@thomasargiro5900 7 жыл бұрын
The thing that this master's opinion, which is all that it is, ignores, is the different masters and branches in the lineage of Yong Chuan (Wing Chung). The master is basically saying that Wing Chung grew out of White Crane, and that is somewhat true, but it became a distinct art in its own right, with various branches. That is what he fails to explain, and/or dignify.
@luminate4419
@luminate4419 5 жыл бұрын
Wing chun also have snake in the system not just crane.
@bigwavesun
@bigwavesun Жыл бұрын
Yes, they have over-simplified the history a lot. Wing Chun's own history is highly debated and the way the variations have come about is even more fascinating, but IMO, I see more connection with HUNG KUEN and Wing Chun, than there is with White Crane. White Crane as a system is much more complicated than ANY Wing Chun variation. Hung Kuen's 12 BRIDGING sets of hands IMO looks closer to Wing Chun in practice than does White Crane. A lot of systems in the south have intermixed with each other so there will be a lot of variations of kung fu that look similar. If you jump into Red Boat Opera histories and the Tiandihui, you'll run into history where there was a lot of mixing and learning from martial artists and is a reason why a lot of arts in the south look so similar. To say Wing Chun comes from White Crane is too simplistic. Besides some common hands shared amongst all southern systems, it does not include any of White Crane's complicated breathing patterns nor does any of Wing Chun's other forms bare any resemblance to White Crane other than the stance. A lot of kung fu styles are also named after the towns that they come from, YONG CHUN Quan could have been just White Crane's second name meanwhile another style with a similar name was being developed elsewhere.
@ahmadinejad606
@ahmadinejad606 5 жыл бұрын
Goju ryu master, kanryo higaonna also student of yong chun master
@Livingtree32
@Livingtree32 4 жыл бұрын
It's not 100% clear what Higaonna learned in China. Might be White Crane, might as well be Wuzu or Luohan. There is no reliable source on this.
@sonasingh204
@sonasingh204 Жыл бұрын
And Miyagi student of Fujian White Crane.
@KuenSuiKuen
@KuenSuiKuen 7 жыл бұрын
I disagree with this video....wing chun maybe a fusion but totally white crane.....no way. At this point in time, no one truly knows wing chun's true origins. We are only speculating at best. The snake and crane fight, might just be an analogy of the fusion...maybe a story to conceal it's creator and/or its history.
@xihangyang
@xihangyang 7 жыл бұрын
he did say it was original white crane, but when they are in fushan they ad local fushan style with it.
@konstantinlerner7055
@konstantinlerner7055 6 жыл бұрын
К сожалению те, кто снимает и выкладывает подобные ролики не объясняют что за движения делает китайский мастер на видео. Вначале показаны упражнения для контроля "выброса силы" использующейся не только в Журавле но и в системах Дим Мак, на видео непосредственно Фа Цзинь, один из нескольких способов "выброса силы".
@MartialArtsNext
@MartialArtsNext 6 жыл бұрын
А зачем Вам объяснять? Вы и так всё знаете))) а вот что стоило бы объяснить, так это то, что ролик не об этом. А вообще у нас есть 5 серийный фильм о Белом Журавле, где всё объясняется. Но, это видимо для тех кто не ленится искать. Тем кто ленится, тем да, всё нужно сразу объяснять, даже там где речь о другом.
@konstantinlerner7055
@konstantinlerner7055 6 жыл бұрын
Martial Arts.Next я смотрел этот ролик.
@kheirsalammartialarts8542
@kheirsalammartialarts8542 5 жыл бұрын
This is Wuzu bai he quan not Fang chi niang white crane ! stop the false information !!!
@Lolitocat
@Lolitocat 3 жыл бұрын
Five Ancestors Fist (Wuzuquan or Ngo-cho Kun) is a Southern Chinese martial art that consists of principles and techniques from five styles: the breathing methods and iron body of Bodhidharma (達尊拳) the posture and dynamic power of Luohan (羅漢拳) the precision and efficient movement of Emperor Taizu (太祖拳) the hand techniques and the complementary softness and hardness of Fujian White Crane (白鶴拳) the agility and footwork of Monkey (猴拳) Fujian White Crane (白鶴拳) was created by Fang Qi Niang, the first form of the style created by her is Sam Chien.
@spinehong
@spinehong 5 жыл бұрын
Tyson's punch is centuple(x 100) stronger than kung fu master's punch.
@drjonesjrjr
@drjonesjrjr 4 жыл бұрын
No fucking shit
@crazinkcf1840
@crazinkcf1840 4 жыл бұрын
Not about power, its about precision and mastery of techniques which can give a massive advantage over just power
@АНИМАТИК-щ5п
@АНИМАТИК-щ5п Жыл бұрын
Тайсон был на стероидах. Вряд ли он сейчас так же сильно бьет. Да и ушуисты работают по уязвимым зонам: пах, глаза, суставы.
@mightymeatmonsta
@mightymeatmonsta 7 жыл бұрын
No wrong. There was no Ng Mui . God, why don't you learn your own history?? Wing chun consists of five systems, white eyebrow, white crane, choy li fut, hung gar and Shaolin. There never was a Ng Mui or Wing Chun. They never existed and there are no records of them.
@jeffshark1368
@jeffshark1368 7 жыл бұрын
You're asserting that Wing Chun came from those five styles at the same time without any evidence whilst making it out to be an obvious truth that these people are stupid for not knowing. Do you not see the absurdity in that?
@mightymeatmonsta
@mightymeatmonsta 7 жыл бұрын
The evidence is in records. It didn't come from some woman, that was a fabrication. It came from the five elders of the shaolin temple. And they are stupid and so are you! Do you see the absurdity in that???
@MakCw
@MakCw 7 жыл бұрын
mightymeatmonsta omg. Most southern fist chinese martial arts derived from the southern shaolin temple. Choy li fut consist of Choy gar kung fu, li ( li yau san- chang heung's uncle) and fut ( fat gar kuen). White crane on the other hand was brought to japan and is called okinawa karate. Does wing chun look like karate to you?
@mightymeatmonsta
@mightymeatmonsta 7 жыл бұрын
Well white crane is a chinese system that was changed to be useful in the environment that Japan has to offer. It's different than white crane, you fucking imbecile, and is made to be hard. Wing chun consists of five systems, choy li fut, hung gar, white crane, white eyebrow and shaolin. It wasn't made by watching a crane and a snake, or by a woman who NEVER EXISTED!
@stanjer8573
@stanjer8573 7 жыл бұрын
Who died and made you king? Please don't strike me down for my insolence
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