White Guilt Is Correct

[@Trixiethegoldenwitch]

This comments section is proving everything wrong with white people. Incapable of listening.

[@wigglyziggly]

“People disagree with my opinion therefore they are all wrong and evil”

[@chianliu8352]

Don't label me as white people. It's bland prejudice.

[@DEEPTRUSTX]

People disagreeing ≠ people not listening

[@EnzoDraws]

Hey Trixie this is a bit random, but I was casually watching F.D Signifier's hugely popular video "I'm What the Culture Feeling" (a 3+ hour documentary on Kendrick vs Drake) and it took me by surprise that he mentioned you in it, which I thought was super cool. It's exactly at 1:54:55 You probably already knew about this, considering the video is 4 months old and got over 5 million views. But I thought I'd let you know just in case you didn't and you're only finding out now.

[@Elfinlocks]

Pretty disingenuous to lump all whites together like they're some homogeneous group. The experience of a white American who is descended from well to do Southern elites, compared to one who came as an Irish potato famine refugee varies widely. This is not to say racial prejudice and evils haven't existed, in fact they're a major part of American history and the state of American culture today. Although I understand your points, I don't think you're going to win a lot of minds with this approach. Credentials, since that matters; I have a Master's degree in History, and am writing my doctoral thesis on the Reconstruction era (and the resulting social impacts).

[@Zero_Omega_ZX]

not to mention white on white racism with the irish and others like you have already said. as a second generation from an italian migrant family i dont think its fair at all that labeling 'all whites' a thing, its as racist if not more than skin color alone. Just because we have similar skin does not make us all the same heritage or culture. I've been following this guy since before his 'transition' when he did cool anime reviews and talks but this is the last straw. sorry man get some help youre acting like the 'people' you claim are the bad guys. i hope you find peace some day.

[@xHanabiran]

@@Zero_Omega_ZXhe/she not gonna live very long. sadly.

[@Trixiethegoldenwitch]

that took a weird turn lol

[@Elfinlocks]

@@Trixiethegoldenwitch Yea, not crazy that this post about cultural distinction got hijacked by the latest trans culture war stuff.

[@noklarok]

what about the white Irish slaves? Did you cover that in your history class?

[@--.--.--.--.--.--]

Collective guilt, original sin, sins of the father, etc. are all dangerous concepts and only contribute to more harm in the long run. No individual is guilty of anything just because another individual whose skin happens to be the same color did something bad. Thinking of people that way is what we call "stereotyping" or "racism" or "bigotry". Combating past bigotry with more bigotry is unhelpful and will only contribute to more conflict in the long run. Of course, the "ideal" solution is not really humanly possible. It'd be wonderful if people could just turn off the part of their brain that forms stereotypes and acts on in-group preference, but unfortunately tribalism and group preference are hard-coded into our brains. We evolved to stick with the familiar and reject the different. Our tendency towards tribalism led to the birth of civilization and is responsible for so many incredible human feats, but it's also responsible for all of the other bullshit. Nobody likes being accused of something they did not do. Ideally everyone gets treated as an individual. The problem exists of majority privilege, all over the world. It's not just a white person thing, it's a "majority group in the culture" thing, and it applies at many levels of society. I don't think that reality can be denied. It's the solution that people disagree on. I disagree with your solution, and I disagree with your lens of collective guilt.

[@Trixiethegoldenwitch]

Did you watch the whole video?

[@--.--.--.--.--.--]

@@Trixiethegoldenwitch Yeah. I understand my comment doesn't really read like a direct response. It's more a general musing of how I disagree with the foundation of your ideas, the lens you use to analyze these things. The idea that "white people have a built-in entitlement" just reads as its own form of bigotry. (If you asked me, I'd say ALL people have a built-in sense of entitlement, but it's the people in the majority who have the power to enforce it. White or not, America or elsewhere.) I understand where your ideas come from and I understand that this is the lens a lot of people use, but I just have fundamental disagreements with it and I believe it to be wrong. I think a lot of good could be done if the wider conversation were reframed and less accusatory in nature. For instance, class privilege/disparity is far more impactful on people's lives. That sort of thing.

[@DEEPTRUSTX]

Wish I had watched a video of you talking for 20 minutes lol, would have been a much better use of my time. I wish there were more people with truly grounded perspectives like yours.

[@DEEPTRUSTX]

​@@Trixiethegoldenwitchpeople don't need to listen to you ramble for 20 minutes to have an opinion. How entitled are you? Must be the whiteness in ya. I'm allowed to get pissed at the video title alone lol

[@Levittchen4G]

"Don't hate yourself" is the key. Make it better, make it right in any way possible, subsitute what has been withheld in terms of economic stability, call out racism. Accept the frustration from people affected which will gonon for a while, even with reparations, jump over your shadow. Black and brown people will not do the eye for an eye thing to us. There is no indication for it. Just feeling guilty is useless, feeling guilty with no moral throughline is also dangerous like you see with Germany who contribute to another genocide. This is not a "snap and it happens"-thing, it's an ongoing and long process but it can be sped up, similar to decolonialization.

[@strangeweather8827]

My first relationship was with a person hung up on white guilt and was ravenous with black culture before I had dropped the cuckoo bird schtick - wanting access to whiteness through family or marriage, I mean. The anxiety produced by this fixation was a reliable obstacle to self-connection and understanding why she held close something so distant and abstract. These days I cannot help but recognize otherness and loss as the key ingredients in such an identity as that of the Black American, and so do other groups have their particular strains of otherness and loss. I relate to other "others" seeking out that pattern. Who told and/or took what from them? ùand then we have a conversation.

[@blackleon1708]

Im not American, im Russian. Im white, but i dont feel white, i have somewhat asian mentality, and prefer to interact with asians and arabs. We dont have any analogous stroy to slavery, so i dont understand this discussion really. Still, its very interesting, what you people (americans) think about your own culture

[@lydiawilder5996]

Russians enslaved the Ukrainian people at several points throughout history.

[@OhMaiGuy]

"much smaller hat than mine" 😭

[@Aspiepilled]

Why is the line drawn at native americans and african Americans? Why can't irish americans and italian americans get reparations?

[@Trixiethegoldenwitch]

they can!

[@Lin_Eileen]

There is no line being drawn! You are projecting. It's a very complex discussion, this one is specifically about the systemic injustices perpetrated against Indigenous & African Americans by invading European colonizers, and the fallout of that & how white identifying people feeling ashamed of their ancestors' actions is justified. It's not to say there is no other culture that has done bad things to others, human history is cruel & violent. You could also argue for reparations for Irish & Italian Americans too with valid points, and you have the right to do so. It doesn't take anything away from the generational trauma that other ethnic groups have to live with too. Reparations are not such a hard thing to give anyone who personally feels hurt by something in their past that was done to them or their family based on their identity. Money is not value! It's a symbol of value that is mass produced & strictly controlled because it gives people power over others. We produce enough food in North America for every single person on the continent to eat 4000 calories a day... yet people are starving because they get denied access to basic human rights & so much food is wasted haphazardly. Did you miss the part when Trixie said one side of her family were Ukranian Jews who fled in fear of being persecuted? Ukranians are being persecuted NOW (I have direct Ukranian ancestry as well) & historically Eastern European countries have been victimized a lot by the USSR & now the Russian Federation. Yet so many people are demonizing Ukraine for daring to fight back at their homeland being taken over by force, acting like they are the aggressors, when Ukraine is simply retaliating to Russia's inability to agree to or respect any sort of peace deals. This is in large part due to the ignorance of White American culture spreading throughout the world... people don't want to face how harsh & cruel our reality can still be. We live in a time of greater peace than we have ever known in human history... don't take it for granted!

[@theol8576]

Pin this imo ​@@Lin_Eileen

[@Aspiepilled]

​@@Lin_Eileen I was just asking as someone who's family came from the Irish slave trade

[@lydiawilder5996]

Because you apparently don't need it otherwise you'd lobby for it

[@avitalpseudonym5973]

Notes: It's interesting that you personally feel guilty. I don't think guilt is productive force in my life,,,,,,,,,,,, it's very easy to deal with guilt unproductively. I think I reach similar endpoints through anger and empathy HOLY U CAN TRACE YOUR ANCESTOR BACK TO ANCIENT SETTLERS wild :OOOO Also just realized ur eyes are blue V COOL DAMN Very interesting family history :OOO The point on white people lacking in solidarity is interesting I've always taken it as white people are not a community - we are just anyone who is not part of an excluded race White people don't self describe as white, it's always a nationality of some kind I like your motives !! I don't like the term white guilt though eeeeeeee White self awareness? White introspection? White empathy? White antiracism? So many other concepts would be better TT maybe that's semantics, but I think semantics are important But !! That's also probably not on you,, you didn't create the term uwu ALSO now that i have finished the video guilt Is ultimately, it's a self-centered/self serving emotion and response 'i feel bad i am going to do something to make me feel less bad' I think that's maybe why a lot of people don't like it (not talking abt the ppl who think white ppl should never feel bad about anything ever.) But maybe guilt is what's needed to jumpstart someone's journey towards empathy and compassion and motive to do better (In a way, all emotions are self serving, really. So does it matter which emotion gets you to do good?) VERY COOL VIDEO THANK YOU FOR SHARING

[@Ghola36]

2016 called and wanted its topics back.

[@Trixiethegoldenwitch]

who talked about this in 2016?

[@ChromaFabulist]

re:pre-columbian civilization in what's now the US, there very much were settled civilizations and cities in the modern US before the arrival of Europeans. Look up Poverty Point and Cahokia for a good starting point on that. Most indigenous tribes at least had villages, and it's not like the nomadic peoples in the region didn't keep territories. There was plenty of war and taking amongst those groups well before Europeans came to the scene. The Sioux didn't always live in the Dakotas. and this slice of north america is a great place for civilization! it's temperate, it has large and fertile river systems allowing for massive amounts of agriculture and easy transportation of goods, the continent is fucking *_loaded_* with natural resources, et cetera et-fucking-cetera! i'm firmly of the belief that the only reason native americans weren't as developed as europeans in 1492 is that the americas really didn't have any useful domesticable animals then, except maybe llamas. no domesticable animals = nothing to pull a plough = way less capacity for food production = way less population = less use for cities. lack of population + lack of places for populations to congregate = less societal and technological innovation and development. for the rest of the video, i'm not really the right person for this conversation. I'm Jewish and the first people in my family to come to this hemisphere were my _parents._ In other words, I don't even really consider myself American and if I'm considered "white" it's only in the most peripheral and meaningless of ways. I find myself more baffled by the US and its culture than anything else, which i suppose makes some amount of sense for someone who grew up very very jewish in a society as heavily culturally christian as the US (but that's a whole other conversation, as much as the concepts of whiteness and cultural christianity are linked)

[@durodesduvo8424]

That's like your opinion man, and not everyone sees it that way, which doesn't necessarily make them bad people. I really don't think the sins of your ancestors are something you should feel guilty for- like for example if your mom had you because she was r*ped, should you feel guilty of _r*pe?_ However, their sins can have a long lasting effect, that's undeniable. Many generations of oppression will put a demographic at a severe disadvantage. Things like DEI, I really think it's not a bad thing if executed properly. Although this idea of stealing money from billionaires to pay descendants of slaves because the billionaires stole their money seems really naïve and would be tyrannical as fuck for something that wouldn't actually change all that much in my opinion. Like how much are we talking? 10k? 30k per person? Assuming you can identify the descendants of American slaves (less than 50% of blacks here btw) Something I do care about is the racial biases and racism that still exists today. I would trade reparation's for a world where people treated others based on the content of their character and not their skin color.

[@TheLastScoot]

No more "save the white guilt for the kids"? Sweet.

[@Trixiethegoldenwitch]

Yeah... the kids in the burbs never heard of a word liike trap... the implication is that those kids should feel guilty did you miss that?

[@TheLastScoot]

@@Trixiethegoldenwitch No, I just always thought the brief pause made the line sound funny on its own.

[@chocolatemarthas]

the opening of the video too funny

[@superunknown2728]

It's all a power game

[@sasuke2910]

You totally lost me at the part where the government "can easily solve this by taking from billionaires" There's 40mil black American, giving every one a low $40k/yr salary for just 1 year would cost $1.6 trillion. It prevents people from discussing real problems and solutions when people get behind these meme ideas that all the world's issues are because are sitting on infinite resources.

[@jacobwagner9970]

What is your definition of capitalism?

[@Trixiethegoldenwitch]

money based economy

[@arthas640]

that is the first thing i tend to ask when people complain about capitalism or socialism since they tend to cherry pick examples and definitions.

[@mouhou9795]

I don't know why I would feel guilty tho? Like if I were like the daughter of rance from sengoku rance right. I could say he is like a shitty person right. And I might be privileged because I'm a descendant of like a shitty person that screwed people over. But I'm not feeling like any form of regret for having the privilege. Like I guess people look at you differently for being white. But that isn't my fault, that's like a you problem. And this idea that like non white ethnicities somehow have like more solidarity is also strange and maybe racist. I guess like more leftist anti-racist people of color are like empathetic to like other ethnicities facing similar problems. But you definitely at least in my country also have like ethnic nationalists of color that will say their race is cool. And like the Surinamese immigrants are the real problem. I feel like the problem is ethnic nationalism and pride all together. The moment you think you deserve something because you're a whitoid or like black or whatever you're losing the plot. And this idea of giving economic reparations to people of a certain ethnicity feels kind of weird and capitalist. Like african americans tend to be more poor because of like historic factors right. But you also have poor whitoids because they're just unlucky or had a depression or whatever. I feel like just making better social security and healthchare systems which provide for all groups is better. Not just giving a black millionaire more money because he started disadvantaged.

[@Dukebluethemad]

Wow you really fell off in terms of views.

[@Trixiethegoldenwitch]

it's picking up compared to how it's been

[@Yellow_Plus_Red]

This video would be so cool if you keyed yourself out of the static background and the linktree link appeared behind your head as if it was a part of the world behind you idk I haven't finished watching before posting this hope that's okay.

[@AsdfAsdf-gw5oo]

I am personally responsible for my fellow white people's ancestors💪😎

[@noklarok]

you serioius?

[@ginfan7077]

I do not agree with everything, but i love you regardless and your content,, you are the best

[@0hate9]

goddamn, trixie based alert! it's a shame there's a lotta shit in these comments - although at least most of the higher-rated ones are good. I'm personally not fond of guilt as a persistent motivator, outside of acute moments like when you do something shitty. that said, I *definitely do* feel plenty of white guilt. I'm generally wary of that guilt, because I know that for a lot of white people, it can distance them from their racialized peers - and I have a lot of racialized peers who I like a lot and don't want to accidentally distance myself from. I've grown up with a lot of racialized folks and spent a lot of time interacting with their cultures - not the only example, but I had my hair in twists for a while when I was younger (that a black friend's mom did on me, before some asshole responds complaining about "cultural appropriation"): that was a lot of fun. but yeah, I'm generally wary of guilt, and I think there are more productive emotions to have about this stuff, but at the same time, if that's an emotion lots of people have about this stuff (and it is), and a lot of people are primarily motivated by guilt (they are), then I hope more people do what you're encouraging on here, and fight for reparations and a better future.

[@Trixiethegoldenwitch]

Thank you for understanding 🙏🏼

[@mrbanks456]

It's a good motivator if you already have it. But I don't want to make people feel guilty. They'll just get defensive. I'll ask them to empathize at the very least.

[@ayh4968]

how much would it take for you to troll a MAGA con

[@Trixiethegoldenwitch]

I'd do it for a couple hundred bucks and travel expenses.

[@alkalineburrito]

12:26 "It's some white people shit not checking in with your cousins" LMFAO 17:25 - 17:54 "You need to live in a hero mentality" love this

[@skytimely]

You’re so well spoken and have a genuine soul. Happy holidays

[@Trixiethegoldenwitch]

Thank you! You too!

[@noklarok]

who cares

[@cvonsmusic]

I do, it's valuable discussion

[@McFood42]

literally "who cares"ed all of slavery, nice

[@Adelphel]

@@McFood42 Which European people weren't even responsible for in almost any instance of it. The USA was not the first, last, or even the most heinous instance of that, either. I am Ashkenazi and my people were largely behind the instances in the United States. Get over yourself, please.

[@godhimself1128]

You cared enough to comment

[@Levittchen4G]

​@@Adelphel Bruh Europeans went to america and wiped out almost all native americans Europeans conquered the world. Europeans use neoliberalism to keep africa and the middle east a permanent cesspool so they can have cheap materials. I'm european btw.

[@babablacksheep7167]

Sounds like a bunch of disparate ideas you got from tweets, yt shorts, and John Oliver. Not substantive at all. Stick to anime, maybe you can reboot your channel

[@Trixiethegoldenwitch]

I hate John Oliver and I hate you CAC

[@babablacksheep7167]

@ I don’t hate you

[@Trixiethegoldenwitch]

why not?

[@babablacksheep7167]

@@Trixiethegoldenwitch You were a great KZbinr and gave me joy in my youth + hate corrodes the soul

[@Setsunako6587]

If y'all can just make it to 13 minutes 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾

[@exaltedpinecone1135]

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