White House Press Secretary fields tough questions on Biden's health

During a press briefing, White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre fielded questions from reporters about President Joe Biden's health. #CNN #News

[@GGCGAGSG]

Sick and tired of your lies Pierre

[@JD-im4wu]

If you are sick and tired of Lies how do you feel about the Lie Champ Adelson funded Trump! Seems like you Hate the BITTER TRUTH! Go Pierre! Go Biden! BIDEN 2024! Vote for American Democracy! LOCK UP TRUMP! Nobody is above the Law not even a Psycho President like Trump!

[@JD-im4wu]

MAGAtards prefer Trump Lies over Pierre's bitter Truth!

[@MrBennyrick77]

Put yourself in her shoes, she can only say what the WH wants her to say. What would you do if you had that job????

[@rogerdebougainville889]

You're so smart!

[@liamx6636]

​@@rogerdebougainville889🤖

[@carolsymonett9234]

This chick Karine is really trying to convince herself and no one else

[@Charlee-w1u]

She will be on unemployment soon, complete BS artist.

[@daveh322]

It's really sad. By "sad" I don't mean sorrowful. I mean, pathetic.

[@MrBennyrick77]

She is only allowed to answer along the lines the WH want her to answer. She can be honest, and say what she thinks, she is the representative for the WH, and until the WH want to say Biden is weak, she cant say anything. What would you do in front of the entire world each day? Would you suddenly screw over your BOSS and say he is old and useless??. She is in a job, getting paid, and most people dont want to suddenly lose their job. Think about that.

[@u2norton]

this woman is an absolute ZERO in the game of life. Kareem Jong Pierre or whatever her name is. it's maddening.

[@toughguyver6986]

No one can convince people with a hole in the head.

[@Warrentertainment]

Let this man rest, before he rest in peace. This is the craziest form of elder abuse I've witnessed since Diane Feinstein.

[@michaellange6598]

Ruthless baiter...

[@chiplaka]

You're funny as hell. You're right tho.

[@Hautehead13]

FJB

[@omaramoo1509]

I would VOTE4biden on a respirator B4 i would VOTE4trump

[@YouRudeCensorsLogic]

Chuck Grassley is worse. He is now the oldest member in all of congress.

[@kurtdewittphoto]

Stop wasting our money.

[@frontenac5083]

*What a clown!*

[@JD-im4wu]

Trump? I agree he is a lying clown! BIDEN 2024!

[@rogerdebougainville889]

You're so smart! What have you done lately?

[@whatda6554]

How dare you her hair looks fab

[@ukpehoreyebirs5587]

@@whatda6554 it doesn’t look good. Which grandma did she get it from

[@Southern_gentleman.]

Just call her the N word. That’s what you really wanna say.

[@michellesuzzane8233]

this will not go away , I feel gaslit.😓

[@kaioser]

Why is a alleged crackhead attending the meetings, why is the lady so power hungry is she going to run?

[@whatda6554]

She’s da bes

[@joelhall5124]

Ok, this just gets even more embarrassing for this administration the longer it goes on.

[@JD-im4wu]

Yes TRUMP NEEDS TO GET LOCKED THE F UP! FDJT!

[@Kyle-vk1fe]

🤣

[@frankg1415]

Well wth can you expect from someone that says we defeated Medicare 😅

[@QuantumOfSolace1]

Or “the Border Patrol supports me”

[@Krispy1011]

and you all thought it was tough to get grandpa to give up his car keys!

[@michaellange6598]

Just lagging...jet lag? FLAMEOUT. FLATOUT

[@rogerdebougainville889]

You're so smart!

[@gina-dianneflores8153]

I literally laughed out loud at your comment! Thank you, because mostly none of this is funny, but we do need to laugh.😂

[@middleguy1776]

She's horrible

[@EliGriffin7]

She's experiencing the most difficult time in her life.

[@whatda6554]

@@rogerdebougainville889you?

[@liamx6636]

​@@rogerdebougainville889🤖

[@xR00K]

15:30. The amount of lies are stunning.

[@michaellange6598]

Just lagging...

[@imtryinghere1]

Htf does a person have jet lag 10 days after a trip

[@YouRudeCensorsLogic]

@@xR00K Trxmp lies vastly more than any figure in government today.

[@Set592]

America people first.... right 😂😂😂😂 stop sending so much money to foreign country. Help America first!!

[@roland9340]

Each always help his own...you. Dont know how world functioning?

[@toughguyver6986]

It’s not your money, it’s oligarch money but if you vote Trump it will be your money indeed because Trump is a Russian puppet.

[@toxic-v7w]

Not even 10 seconds in and she says we're giving more money to Ukraine and a lost war.

[@ryonlyon]

Mind if someone takes over your home? Sounds like you enjoy getting walked on.

[@tonymaurice4157]

Trump2024 👍

[@TheNivKo]

Really this is what's on everyone's minds, the war that Biden caused because of his failed diplomatic efforts with Putin. I'm glad she gives us an update on how they're handling the problem they'd caused

[@TheNivKo]

He caused the war, now we get updates on how he funds it

[@Rotebearda]

Don't worry he'll raise taxes on millionaires that will cover two weeks of ukraine aid

[@FrancescoCesareGirardi-nm7ji]

Wow stop saying unprecedented record the country is worse than ever.

[@seanmccartney5177]

In an unprecedented way!

[@QuantumOfSolace1]

Gold pure gold- yep we are extremely bad under Biden

[@MaleBlackExpat]

No facts support this. 😂

[@seanmccartney5177]

@@MaleBlackExpat Whats your barometer?

[@carlogambino1979]

I voted for Biden in 2020. I am now voting for Trump. And why? Sick of being lied to by people like her and cant afford to pay my bills anymore.

[@iscariotproject]

the economy has gone up under biden...worst argument ive heard

[@user-gj1ym6dq3b]

As if Trump will fix that. Dream on.

[@carlogambino1979]

@@user-gj1ym6dq3b Trump hasn't got dementia. 👍

[@plutodestroyer12]

take a shot every time she says ‘let me be clear’

[@QuantumOfSolace1]

Or - “Look”. Here comes another Lie

[@samattwood6748]

Hahaha brilliant comment 😂

[@jamesg6663]

I did. And I’m still drunk. Thanks Obama…sorry went back in time for a second. 😂

[@kaioser]

This is beyond belief its like black mirror or the twighlight zone? Biden should stay the course and not quit.

[@apokatastasian2831]

every single trump voter agrees

[@InsanePandaWanderer]

Yes, please keep Biden in the race. It's looking like a land slide victory for Trump 😂

[@ryandollisen2453]

When will the 81 million realize this mess.

[@User39.]

CNN will be praising Kamala real soon

[@Soldierguy97]

Holy fk you called it lol

[@Pler1978]

This is tremendous news for Trump.

[@StephenPure]

A COLD??? - PLEASE???

[@plutodestroyer12]

she said he had a cold and jet lag which is why we saw what we saw 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 good lord karine you’re a comedian

[@Guy_Incognito1]

"So let me be very clear. (Followed by vague word salad)" - Karen Jean Pear loves saying "clear" as much as Biden said, "the idea" during the debate.

[@marcuscardacus4994]

Do they think that we’re stupid?

[@needinput9805]

They do

[@Pler1978]

Many will believe it

[@slebnation2035]

This is elder abuse.

[@Wyttyd]

Could you please not smoke near me, I might spontaneously combust with all of this gaslighting that is going on.

[@javiersandoval7660]

Who’s running the country? I very much doubt the President is making these decisions especially before 11am!

[@corwin8558]

Biden is old and tires out. Trump is in his 4th year of dementia. Biden does not have dementia, he is just too old. Plus Trump is a sociopath lying sack of offal. What a F'n choice.

[@rellys6039]

Presidential cabinet. Been like that for decades

[@TBrl8]

lol, trump spent more time on a golf course than attending to presidential duties.

[@phatplates]

@@TBrl8your desperate deflection is HILARIOUS 😂😂😂

[@Tubalcain422]

@@TBrl8exactly. I never thought Trump was as dangerous as people say. He is a figurehead like most leaders in the world today.

[@dtmyco1044]

This is what you get when you vote with your emotions rather than logic.

[@Krispy1011]

Looks like they are now stating the 'Biden-Harris Administration' instead of the 'Biden WH' - take that as a clue!

[@user-ed1fr1fu9r]

Who the hell is running the country? 😮

[@CmtLira]

The way she was turning papers shows how prepared she was to for it lol

[@josephsonora3787]

THE DEMS L0ST THE H0USE THIS PAST MIDTERM. WHAT IS KARINE TALKIN' AB0UT?

[@michaellueck3214]

Record…..record record record…..record record record……record… every other word out of her mouth. Meanwhile this country has gone to crap. What a great record.

[@mistervo8185]

So Joe really gonna try to hang onto dear life than let someone beat Trump? There goes our democracy, nice while it lasted

[@garethrichmond4388]

Lol you think the US is actually a democracy now. That's adorable.

[@Cablecol]

Trump 2024🇺🇲💯👏🙏

[@brianwiles3887]

Thank God considering we're a Constitutional Republic and not a Democracy.

[@alexislebienheureux1459]

Is ot ok to lie so much to the american people? Including the media? Just asking..

[@Cablecol]

Welcome to the Grand Illusion... Styx 1978

[@andrewreedy828]

how many issues could that money have helped within OUR nation??

[@Pler1978]

You need to understand that Biden spends late nights and gets up early so he can help the American ppl. He's burning the candle at both ends. How can you expect more

[@MattSoverns]

Take a drink every time she says "Look".

[@KingPaimon666]

KJP must have the hardest job selling Biden's sanity...it ain't working tho lol

[@roguetrader33]

it is like Baghdad Bob

[@TBrl8]

Much easier than Kayleigh whatshername defending trumps insanity, racism, cons and lies.

[@apokatastasian2831]

it's easier when you're a souless psychopath, that is filled with vile hatred for 7/8 of your countrymen

[@karolyndurrenmatt9772]

I'm sick of listening to these very opinionated reporters trying to push their agenda. They would be licking Trumps shoes.

[@Derricknunnez86]

KJP is so arrogant

[@traviscutler9912]

I've got a f****** explanation, he's 81 years old!!!

[@JD-im4wu]

How old is Trump? And he is a Psycho on top at least Biden has Morals and is good for America Trump does anything for money and serves the Evil Adelsons and supports ethnic genocide fully

[@alexislebienheureux1459]

Age is not the issue... He was already sick 4 years ago...

[@danielglover1453]

Age is not the issue! His mental condition is the issue. There are lots of people at 81 still have their mental facilities . Had the media actually done their research a yr ago when conservatives started talking about it we wouldn't be in this mess! Instead the media and Democrats called us conspiracy theorists. Oh well it's mist likely too late to bring in someone else.. All because they wanted to keep Kennedy down!!

[@TBrl8]

And how old is trump?

[@JD-im4wu]

Why are my comments being Deleted? Trump is an old PSYCHO! Ya'll are mad because of our great HONEST President because he had a flue and jet lag? Booo! Shame on you! F-DJT LOCK HIM UP!

[@hermanbanman6754]

But fake check, he lied. He said no one died under his command no soldiers.

[@ca6360]

Very fine people is a lie... in full speech and transcript you will learn truth

[@vitalsigns2679]

3:00 p.m. on the east cost. Only an hour to bed bye time.

[@karolyndurrenmatt9772]

Shouldn't Trump step down after using people to engage in an insurrection just to hold onto power? Shouldn't Trump step down for lying on the debate stage? What's up,?

[@daviderickennedy2194]

I bet you he still has a cold a month from now.

[@alexlegge]

Oh goody, they've decided to address questions about Biden's cognition by having him do some pre-recorded (and, presumably, edited) audio interviews. Completely tone-deaf.

[@Pler1978]

Ppl will buy it though.

[@michellesuzzane8233]

I am not mad at biden, I am mad at the people around him, if you think running him into the ground is ok, You have lost your way.😓

[@nelineyatana3697]

That's what I thought too. The offered debit to Trump was an absolute error of the campaign strategist. Biden should refresh the campaign with a vibrant strategies.

[@QuantumOfSolace1]

Especially the Leftist News Media who spun and covered and gave Biden a pass for each and all of his disasters ! They lied to us - just because they hate Trump - meanwhile we are all suffering!!

[@AlanZ684]

two weeks for jet lag?

[@andpcandpc3520]

you can not spin it around, when your candidate is sick, because everytime he mumbles and stumbles people will know.

[@Charlee-w1u]

Who is running the USA ? asking for my comrade.

[@garethrichmond4388]

Bibi

[@QLHOOQ]

Viktor Tsoi

[@QLHOOQ]

@@Charlee-w1u This year I'm writing in Mr. Peanuts and the Peanettes...

[@DavidJ2222]

122 days until KJP and this sad administration is fired

[@andyroon3931]

Yessir

[@JobbyFraggle]

What kind of stupid ass question is it, by a professional journalist mind you, to ask "Does Biden take an afternoon nap?" What does that have to do with anything? People are insane. The President of the United States isn't allowed to take a nap? Get real. It's a 24/7 job, ya'll are here taking time from your super busy schedules to argue about stupid shit, but you're worried about whether the most busy, powerful person in the free world gets to take an afternoon nap? Yeesh

[@Chipolinou]

Свободный мир?😂 Ты веришь в это? После Ассанжа? Секретных тюрем ЦРУ в Европе? После пыток утоплением водой на американских военных базах?

[@enetlivetv]

Being one of the ones gaslit...this is impossible to support anymore.

[@RobertSpitzer]

I don't think "he pushed through" means what you think it means.

[@TheAnselma123]

She a liar

[@Cablecol]

Frt

[@jennydawson6952]

I don't think she believes any of this but it's her job: bullshit artist. There's no way she can convince anyone that the narrative is anything other than preposterous. 12 day jetlag? Not his best night ?@😂😂

[@AlirezaDakhteh-pv4mb]

Did I really hear correctly that he is standing with Ukraine? God help Ukraine. She is teaching geography or making her self feel better. They are should be charged with elderly abuse starting with Jill.

[@angryox3102]

I'm really tired of being poor and seeing my tax dollars being sent overseas. It's horrible what's happening in Ukraine, but I want my hard earned money to do something to help me, not others.

[@Pler1978]

You got to realize zelensky is only worth 1.5 billion.

[@QuantumOfSolace1]

@@Pler1978 Probably more now!! Biden has sent of 200 $ billion - I’m sure Zelensky the Con man pinched over $5billion by now

[@MaleBlackExpat]

Then get a better job or degree? I was poor but I worked hard and have 2 businesses now. As a Black man in this country during THIS presidency. It's easy to blame everyone but yourself.

[@Ristofec]

I’m a democrat but who do they think they’re fooling!?!?!? A bad night? A cold? Jet lag after 14 days!??

[@joannlynch9910]

I have one question, what have the Democrats done for you lately except ruin America. We are a laughing stock.😊

[@MaleBlackExpat]

You CLEARLY have never had a bad cold. 🙄

[@Dirvin2001]

@@MaleBlackExpatman you are drinking the koolaid.

[@michaellueck3214]

What record? This amazing record? Look at this country.

[@mageco5804]

having a cold has nothing to do with you mumbling sentences and not forming complete thoughts... literally no one said "bidens voice sounds hoarse"

[@UberDriverChat]

When is round two of the presidential debates?

[@josephmadden6333]

she can't wait till this is over hahaha

[@deesee6009]

She lies so much her sleeves fell off!

[@ew5969]

😂

[@monicaspector2388]

Thanks for the laugh, I lost my drink on that one. 😅

[@C_RITICAL]

The jetlagg don't last for 7 days. He did travel 7 day's before debate and DD have 8 days free to practice for the debate.. but Guy's don't forget his record and what he is been able to do. And that is destroying USA and world in just 3 year's. 😂 She should get Nobel prize for best lier

[@derekmcfadyen127]

When the trump pendulum swings back like a wrecking ball

[@MariaH-l5j]

Gosh, Karine Jean-Pierre does such a good job as press secretary, keeping people up to date on all the issues and fielding copious questions from the press who seem to be obsessed with the president's health. She has been press secretary through all of Mr Biden & Ms Harris' presidency (compared with Trump who went through about five press secretaries in 4 years). And we get the truth from KJ-P. Not all the right wing b/s like in the Mcanee days.

[@Cablecol]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂you are delusional

[@KathyHales-vm6qk]

They wouldn’t be tough if she answered truthfully instead of gaslighting

[@quyenhuynh9486]

She did answer truthfully. Just give them sometime and everything will brightens up. Of course, age and health is catching up for Biden, but we know he is doing is best. Just be patient to him. Biden’s team is doing their best.

[@rg8597]

This is utter madness. These are the two most absurd candidates I have seen in my lifetime. What is happening to us?

[@TheMassalorian]

Difference is one side actually held primaries and debates and picked their candidate, while the other shoe horned in a guy who has no business being the leader of the free world..but they are saving democracy! 😂

[@rg8597]

@@TheMassalorian there’s lots of differences good and bad in both sides. The bottom line is that both of these candidates are tragically bad for our nation. That we are considering either of them is an absolute absurdity.

[@femi2873]

This woman lies so much, i am not even sure if she has not even lied about her name

[@Disistt55t555]

Thank God the job he's going for doesn't require being competent when your traveling or have a cold

[@ColinRobinsonEnergyVampire]

As a lawyer, I’m quite confused with the strategy here. These democrats could really use advice.

[@ArizonaSquatch]

Lol you're confused alright. What do you expect the WH Press Secretary to say? He's retiring but we can't acknowledge that? He's clearly not capable of fulfilling another 4 years. I'm sure this isn't easy for him to come to grips with. But for America to succeed, he needs to not run again, finish this term and anyone but Trump in 025.

[@ColinRobinsonEnergyVampire]

@@ArizonaSquatch Please tell me more. I really appreciate the effort you put in.

[@danielglover1453]

​@@ArizonaSquatchYou are aware the in multiple states its too late to change the candidates, right? This includes multiple swing states. Trump is going to win and there is nothing that can be done here! The DNC was so desperate to keep Kenedy out. So they allowed this which will only guarantee a Trump victory!

[@plutodestroyer12]

they’re surrounded themselves with the wrong people. that’s for sure. these democratic admin has failed hugely. need to clean house and pick the right people for this job.

[@ca6360]

She made debate 10x worse. Biden should have come out if he was so strong. Plus she keeps saying can't campaign from podium... but she does.

[@josefelixaranda9002]

The White House Press Secretary knows and comments correctly most of times ,but this healthy enough or not episode is going on " as time goes by ".

[@gab4690]

You all talk about trump and fox lying what about cnn and kjp?

[@cashaeleatemla]

Multiple reporters who were in the room said that they believed the “fell asleep” line appeared intended to be a joke and that Biden was trying to make light of the situation in a self-deprecating way, but it did not land, in their view. Biden had nearly two weeks between his return on June 15 from Italy for the G7 meeting and the debate on June 27, according to a CNN review of his schedule. Jean-Pierre reiterated during the press briefing that Biden had been sick during the debate last week - adding that he still had a cold. The president did not take any cold medication prior to the debate, she said. She added the administration is “absolutely not” hiding information about the president’s health or ability to do his job. Jean-Pierre also addressed recent reporting that Hunter Biden had been joining his father in recent White House meetings. NBC was the first to report on Hunter Biden’s participation in the meetings. Jean-Pierre said the president’s son, who was convicted last month on three felony gun charges, returned to the White House with his father after spending the weekend at Camp David and “walked with him into” a meeting to prepare for Biden’s Monday night speech on the Supreme Court’s decision in Trump’s immunity case. Jean-Pierre also declined to engage with a question from CNN’s MJ Lee on a CNN poll conducted following last week’s debate showing Vice President Kamala Harris outpacing Biden in a hypothetical race against Trump. The poll shows Harris within striking distance of Trump in a hypothetical matchup: 47% of registered voters support Trump and 45% Harris, a result within the margin of error that suggests there is no clear leader under such a scenario. Harris batted down the idea of running in Biden’s place during a brief interview with CBS Tuesday afternoon: “Look, Joe Biden is our nominee. We beat Trump once and we’re going to beat him again, period,” she said.

[@MrBennyrick77]

Wow, what a aweful tough position, to have to answer these relentless questions in front of everyone. The contrast is VERY apparent. Here is a young strong person, answering questions to cover up for someone very old and slow. He has the nickname SLEEP JOE for a reason. Not Energetic Joe!.

[@seanmccartney5177]

I have to give he the utmost respect........ Walking out EVERY day knowing she has to lie through her teeth but keeps coming back! An audition for CNN too bad its living on life support

[@warmachine2098]

"Tis but a flesh wound" The Black Knight

[@nancyb.9759]

It doesn’t matter what happened on that night? Is that what you are saying? We don’t forget what he has done. Now we expect him to do another right thing, and make sure that all of us are not on tender hooks.

[@DavidJ2222]

The saddest part was watching "doctor " Jill helping Joementia off the debate stage, so pathetic 🎉

[@Spooky_Academic]

She has a PhD not MD 🙄

[@Siter68]

Come on, Obama and Jill, let the "Big Guy" retire! Put in giggles Harris or taxes Newsom!

[@keithshumaker6402]

Where is she getting her smoke it’s way better than mine

[@monicaspector2388]

For real. She has some amazing herb...or something.

[@erica22595]

When they post the entire press briefing, you know we’re in trouble.

[@Pler1978]

They didnt mention the cold until they saw his abominable performance...and came up with a silly excuse. Next morning campaigning in NC and sounded.

[@frankg1415]

Lies and lies... can't sweep the dust under the rug anymore with this failed administration 😂

[@PassportBrosBusinessClass]

Spin, Duck, Dodge

[@hermanbanman6754]

It’s so bad you have to try to explain stuff to him

[@PassportBrosBusinessClass]

SPIN CYCLE 🌀🌀🌀🌀🌀🌀🌀

[@SimpleManGuitars1973]

This woman is such an absolute intellectual lightweight that it's staggering.

[@nurselynn805]

These people are in such denial!!

[@craigschmidt7890]

Why do we keep sending hard earned tax dollars when the country is in flames 🤷‍♂️

[@MrGriff305]

Explain how the country is in flames. Inflation is basically fixed after Trump's terrible policies, crime is way down, stocks are way up, unemployment is way down.

[@Woke-Fact-checked]

@@MrGriff305Wrong. Everything was better under Trump.

[@MrGriff305]

@@Woke-Fact-checked Wrong. The sky is green. Grass is blue.

[@j.d.376]

@@Woke-Fact-checkednothing was better under Trump man, nothing.

[@mattreynolds7613]

Now way 8id3n shouldn't step down !!!! Especially now that he has Hunter as his top Advisor 😂

[@xR00K]

I changed my vote from Biden to RFK after the debate.

[@imap8826]

anyone or anything other than biden

[@KraziEggie]

A third party vote for either party is just a vote for the opposing candidate

[@truthseeker7564]

Yes to RFK! He mopped the floor with them. Such a calm collected and smart man who answered every question with solutions that help the American people.

[@Tubalcain422]

@@KraziEggiewhy does RFK have to be third party? Run him as a democrat.

[@awesomeferret]

@@Tubalcain422 because the Democrats bypassed the primary process and pushed RFK out. Only a decade ago, doing that would have been called an "attack on Democracy" but the Republicans actually let the people have a voice, unlike Democrats. If Democrats hadn't tried to bypass democracy, they would be winning with RFK and smashing the Republican party. They did it to Bernie Sanders too and so many people still trusted them... Why?

[@boogboog8097]

Lies Lies Lies

[@evolutionistheflyingspaghe2702]

This just in, the pilot of the Hindenburg still thinks it will fly!

[@ro_2_yall237]

Mane she's fighting for her life on that podium.

[@akincrow3910]

Dirty Q-tip damage controlling poor old sleepy Pooh.

[@billycarter1798]

What does dirty Qtip mean? Are you a representation of the Republican party? 🤔

[@johnmacom3208]

​@@billycarter1798 no he's representing Americans with eyes and ears and no government dependence like you

[@amalgamated-]

Typical of your lot

[@Claire-xh5mv]

What are you? Making comment like this is very telling that you are not a decent being. I reported you.

[@Mike-ye8qv]

Its joe or we dont vote

[@user-ed1fr1fu9r]

Please don't vote 😮

[@Cablecol]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@JD-im4wu]

BIDEN 2024! VOTE 💙!!! F-DJT!!! Vote for American DEMOCRACY!!!

[@highro13]

They are either not telling her ANYTHING & she’s going out there with no information or she’s lying at this point, it’s one or the other

[@frontenac5083]

*The fact that this terrible and clueless woman has been appointed press secretary tells you all you need to know about the president's severely diminished mental acuity!*

[@38josue91]

If he's staying, this was a press conference to be done by the president itself. It would have given a better look.

[@juggaloclownpreacher]

Are we sure this was joe or jill 🤔