Whitebeard & Garp: Stronger Than Roger | Japanese Analysis

[@swordpiece]

One correction. From rechecking the original Japanese of Roger's talk with Garp, a more accurate translation would be that Roger and Garp "tried to kill each other dozens of times". We don't know if either actually ever managed to bring the other near death.

[@primesonic4459]

That's practical as much confirmation as you're gonna get that Roger sees Garp as a Rival +or- 1% or he wouldn't even bother saying that unless he's trying to emotionally manipulate Garp to save Ace but i dont see that to be his character

[@Chyeahokay]

Or maybe they decided not to, because they respected each other, and just enjoyed fighting

[@Yezzzaaa]

Wista>Whitebeard>=Roger=Garp

[@awyehh]

I actually quite like the idea of Roger being slightly weaker than some of the biggest titans of One Piece. It shows that even against all odds stacked against him, he still conquered the grand line and changed the world forever because he wanted it more than any other pirate. Much like Luffy, Roger never cared for power or influence and only wanted to have the most freedom, so I doubt even Roger would care if he's considered the strongest or not.

[@fdbmane4594]

Yeah but then why would he be clashing on with the titans if he is outclassed narratively it wouldn't make sense, that would mean he used underhanded tactics to reach his goals with is pirate like don't get me wrong, but that's wouldn't really fit his image imo.

[@ytprv1890]

@@fdbmane4594It’s extreme diff either he way, he just always percerveired.

[@thepieofyourlife4799]

​@@fdbmane4594 He does use underhanded tactics. Remember that he only stole BM's glyph and just ran, never fighting her. Thus showing that he has his own underhandedness. Then the 2nd idea is that unlike Roger who had OP crew, WB had shit crew, and Garp has shit members (Sengoku isn't always with him). Yet they always end with a tie.

[@fdbmane4594]

@@thepieofyourlife4799 being underhanded and being tactical are not necessarily the same thing tho.

[@travisealy3512]

I disagree. One thing we know is luffy has a similar mindset to pirating as roger. Luffy recognized if he’s not strong then he can’t protect his friends on the journey. Roger had to match them in order to protect his friends on the journey

[@fdbmane4594]

Accordingly the narrative whitebeard had to constantly nerf himself because his DF power would destroy his own crew if he had not, so i honestly think whitebeard could wipe anyone if he didnt have a big heart.

[@greybo4034]

He can just destroy the whole world if he wants as said by sengoku and sbs. He is def top 3 of all time eos and probably the only one who can rival joyboy 1v1

[@toot1862]

​@@greybo4034Hahaha😂😂. Peak comedy.

[@Laurboy97]

@@greybo4034 Nah Joyboy,Imu,Luffy will all be stronger than whitebeard

[@primesonic4459]

I've always seen Whitebeard as the No 1 Strongest with the sole exception of maybe Rocks (ignoring Joyboy, Imu, end of series, etc)

[@greybo4034]

His fruit can destroy the whole world even teach who has 2 df includings wbs is not even close to the raw power wb has.. he is def top 2 or 3 eos

[@toptier347]

@@greybo4034who u talking abt

[@slimmy478-6]

Idk about that but whitebeard because of insane haki combined with his devil fruit is definitely the strongest.

[@scramble7902]

I feel Garp nearly killing Roger or trying to kill Roger doesn't really mean anything without knowing *when* that happened. Smoker would've easily killed Luffy when they first met, but now that they're both in their current primes, a fight between them wouldn't even be a contest. That still wouldn't change the fact that Smoker nearly captured Luffy several times though, and so Roger's statement could be taken the same way. That said, I agree with your overall assessment, and I think the narrative implication is that all three are effectively equal, but Roger just found the one piece so he got all the glory. Why write that Roger and Whitebeard fought for 3 days if not to communicate that it was a close fight, y'know?

[@Re-Bourne]

I think they were all pretty much equal. They were all so neck and neck that a slight gap in power means nothing.

[@NerdGohan]

Sword Piece uploaded? my birthday is peak this year

[@swordpiece]

Sorry if you're a Roger fan, and enjoy your bday.

[@NerdGohan]

@@swordpiece thank you!! and it's okay. I enjoy whitebeard, Roger, and garp equally. they are all amazing characters. I really love your videos, and you really do make my day much better. I hope you have an amazing rest of your day.

[@thepieofyourlife4799]

People have to remember that Roger had a very powerful crew, while WB (the WB pirates were kids back then) and Garp had weak underlings (Sengoku isn't always with garp). Yet their crew always end with a close fight, meaning Garp and WB must have been making up for their allies. Before you say "you underestimate the WB crew", remember that the entire WB commanders could barely stop damaged Akainu even at their strongest.

[@toot1862]

I cannot think of any scenario where Roger would ever allow anyone to help him against Garp or WB. How would anyone respect him as the King of Pirates if he Jumps his opponent? Infact WB and Garp would be the first one to never respect him. Even Kaido got pissed when he got help from another person in both his fight against Luffy and Oden.

[@thepieofyourlife4799]

@@toot1862 But that would not change the fact that the WB crew would lose badly if WB is not able to support them at least. Can you really call it a tie if everyone but the captain is down? And even the captain is barely holding on? Of course not. Thus it is more likely that WB is, for some reason, able to support his allies while still fighting Roger evenly.

[@Pp-sr4cs]

Portrayal wise, story wise, powerscaling wise, CoC seems to be the absolute peak of importance when it comes to strenght/power, and it seems like Roger had the highest degree of CoC with Joyboy. Don't forget that Kaido explicitly said that Roger became the king because Haki triumphs all, but that is just a word for spirit/will, which in OP and Kaido's words would mostly translate to CoC in reference. The stronger the will, the stronger the CoC. In OP will alone bends reality to one's will, and Roger had a trait that most people do not, so far only Luffy has done so - judges the man by his deeds and deeds alone, and this is one of the indicators of strong will - bypassing biases that you will have takes will.

[@greybo4034]

Whitebeard doesn't have will like roger since he already achieved his dream

[@Pp-sr4cs]

@@greybo4034? And? He never did to begin with, will is corelated with ambition, and his dream was never something with which you need absurd will to begin with. Guy was born as a gentle giant to begin with, I don't see any problem with him not being as powerful as Roger.

[@yaseennechat4090]

​@Pp-sr4cs whitebeard is pretty canonical stronger than Roger.

[@toot1862]

The stronger the Will, the stronger The COC.🤣🤣 I am sorry but my mind couldn't keep up with the comment.😂

[@Pp-sr4cs]

@@toot1862 yeah

[@shadowofbosstown]

Haki transcends all.

[@micosaysun7654]

I heard a theory the reason why wb cant use fruit and Conquerer haki at the same time when he fought roger is because Roger's haki i so strong it makes a area of the battle unable to use fruit ability its like joy boy haki against the gorosei his haki nolify fruit ability thats why wb used hali only to counter it

[@kanemccarthy1979]

Can y'all stop yapping about this as if it's 100% absolute?

[@micosaysun7654]

@@kanemccarthy1979 stop yapp too

[@hotpufff123]

@@micosaysun7654 saw that from KOL, cool theory which makes sense how ppl like roger and garp could stand against wb

[@toptier347]

@@kanemccarthy1979y is bro hating on them

[@namechange2]

You deserve more views all this one piece content is peak

[@Chris-fj4wn]

Only one of these men was confirmed stronger than roger, while the other failed to capture him

[@theycallmejay2310]

Thats bs 😂 one only had the title that title doesn’t mean a damn anyway (look at marineford) Roger vs Garp wasn’t a “run away or catch him” fight 💀 roger himself literally states that both tried to KILL each other for dozens of times and since both survived that means both couldn’t get the job done.

[@Chris-fj4wn]

@@theycallmejay2310 how is it bs? Whitebeard held the title of strongest man while roger is Alive. The fact that Garp could never defeat Roger or capture him proves they’re on equal footing or Roger is stronger. In no way is Garp stronger than

[@theycallmejay2310]

@@Chris-fj4wn like I said titles are literally NOTHING. It’s proven 1000x times WB was holding the same title when he was at MF and kaido big mom shanks mihawk akainu Garp sengoku imu gorosei Garling ALL of them could literally body him. And you used the “Roger couldn’t get captured by garp” as excuse for roger being stronger than Garp but getting away from someone doesn’t mean you are stronger either 😂😭 roger literally says it himself “we tried to KILL each other” he didn’t say “we played capture pirate and escape the navy game” and like this guy clearly shows Garp never goes with admirals or strong people on his ship he is ALWAYS on his own so you think he is capturing Roger with prime Rayleigh Gaban and that whole crew being there 💀 it’s already a Big W for almost catching him with all of them around. Both Roger and Garp where equals at that time but after Roger died or a moment before he died Garp literally trained and one shotted chinjao. What means he even got stronger. And before making fun of chinjao look at his vivre card it says he used to hold his own against BOTH Roger and Garp. From what we know Garp=Roger>WB. WB clashing for 3 damn days against sick roger is crazy work. Because Garp was going equally with prime Roger in a death battle and he didn’t just always go toe to toe with him. It’s stated so many times that he ALMOST brought him down and Roger his direct statement is even better

[@toptier347]

@@Chris-fj4wncapturing is more difficult than killing

[@toptier347]

@@theycallmejay2310bodying him is cap. thats just false. at minimum is high diff not bodying.

[@Ihoop-Nick101]

Garp>Whitebeard Whitebeard>Roger Roger>Garp

[@lawrencebanks7464]

You maybe right. He was only ever mentioned to be rivals amongst them in strength.

[@crimsonfire6932]

I have to believe whitebeard is above Roger. The oden flashback shows that blade for blade, haki for haki, white beard and Roger are perfect matches. But whitebeard has a devil fruit and Roger doesn’t. So if whitebeard is already matching Roger with haki and sword skills, then just adding the devil fruit power to the attack will instantly set him over. Unless we are to believe Roger’s haki and sword skills were somehow so great, they overcame whitebeards even while also using devil fruit. But that is not what is shown. I also figure Roger was instantly above Garp, as how is haki alone going to overcome equal haki with a supreme grade sword and the top tier skill to use it?

[@Lineage4you2]

The Oden flashback shows the contrary. WB was stated to be equall to Roger, these mean that all the tools in wb arsenal equall ll the tools in roger arsenal, and wb was always being compared to him not the other way around. The flashback showcases a prime wb with health, haki and strongest paramecia df vs a terminally ill dude that had just haki and the best wb could pull after 3 days is a draw. Roger the better fighter just of these stats alone. 1. This puts roger haki over wb , also kaido statement puts roger haki above all yonkos. 2.Roger was showcased affected by his terminal illness. 3. Because of gw roger forever has a +1 over wb .Roger won and not only that but defeated xebeck which was above wb at the time.

[@greybo4034]

​@@Lineage4you2 oda stated roger with disease never affected his strength so stop the bs whitebeard is said to be strongest and he is.. on haki level he is on same level as roger but look at the endurance, size .. can roger take damage like wb ?? Can roger be as destructive as wb ?? No he is not on the same level

[@Lineage4you2]

@@greybo4034 He was showcased in the story to be affected by his illness, how do you think his crew found out in the first place he was sick lmao. 1. In oda`s very own world EVERYONE that was showcased with a terminal illnes was showcased affected by it, WB included. 2.Not just that but we saw Roger affected by it when he coughed blood, staggerd and collapsed from it . This is a fact, and was showcased, it goes contrary to what headcannon you have. 3.He wasn`t strongest when he fought with Roger, as we saw he could not defeat Roger hence he cannot be strongest by definition , he became wsm only after Roger retired with Rouge , as that was before the great pirate age and while Roger was alive but retired. 4.Wb fought Roger for 3 days and the best WB could do against a terminally ill dude that had just haki was a stalmate ,while WB was in his prime health with haki and strongest paramecia df. THIS IS A FACT, this is with what they both got in the ring with,and roger is the better fighter objectivley as a reasult. Their haki not equall based on the facts i listed above, not to mention that later in life they were stated to be equall , this means all of wb powers = all of Roger`s powers, which is just haki hence Roger`s haki > WB haki, this is why Kaido mention only Roger when it came to haki also.

[@toptier347]

@@Lineage4you2where does it say when wb got the title of wsm

[@greybo4034]

@@Lineage4you2 whitebeard never wanted one piece 😭😭 also whitebeard didn't use his tremor fruit against roger and in odens novel it's specifically mentions how they clashed and their swords didn't even touch because of pure haki. No one has stated roger had superior haki , for achieving and getting one piece you need to have haki and whitebeard wasn't even interested in it.if wb has used it then the whole island would sink. And yes oda himself stated sickness never affected roger. And it's not my headcanon 😭😭 also he coughed , spat blood happened a year after whitebeard and roger fought.. he said to wb that he wants to take oden for a year which means the fight happened a year prio, crocus stated roger has. 1 year to live and roger shortly died after finding one piece. Old wb was running on medicine and stuff and it was never stated he had the same disease as roger. roger could never clap or tank hits like wb

[@MonsterDE1]

Garps the strongest. Nearly everyone is talking about Whitebeard being Rogers rival because they talk about pirates. Same with Xebec. That‘s the same reason Sengoku and Garp are not on Kaidos list. Atm we‘ve got Whitebeard equalling an ill Roger ONCE vs Garp nearly killing Roger and vice versa a dozen times. It‘s just a matter of reading comprehension.

[@GoldenFinger-y4c]

Vivre cards are inacurate in one of the recent its stated that CP9 that got one shoted by Kaido is stronger than Luccy while he is not. Whitebeard and Garp did pretty mutch nothing to get stronger in their 50s,only way to get stronger is to be constantly active and fight strong oponents. Kaido considered Roger to be above others,this could be exaguration but there is no way to say that Roger is above Xebec. Neither Whitebeard or Garp were ever stated to be stronger.

[@Ben-iz9ud]

You're missing a huge detail about whitebeard crew

[@swordpiece]

Do tell

[@arthurdcampos]

didn't even watch the video yet but I'm commenting to boost engagement

[@cgrw1]

Essentially impossible for a lot of the top-tier non-zoan DF users to go all-out as they'll annihilate the environment (see: Akainu and Aokiji permanently rendering Punk Hazard uninhabitable when they did go all-out 1v1) - so yes I'd agree Whitebeard always held himself back for the benefit of his crew / family. Then again; Garp could probably annihilate an island in his prime given his reaction to his old man galaxy impact; and Roger's Haki should at least be on par with Garp; with a supreme grade sword in tow... I certainly think both in their prime were beyond any current admiral or Yonko. Whitebeard #1 Monstrous strength; Absolute Haki Mastery; Supreme Grade Sword; Top tier mastered devil fruit Roger #2: Monstrous strength; Absolute Haki Mastery; Supreme Grade Sword Garp #3: Monstrous strength; Absolute Haki Mastery Sengoku #4: Near Monstrous strength; Near Absolute Haki Mastery (inferred as you can't fight Roger without it); Top tier mastered devil fruit; probably about Yonko/Akainu level Ofc hidden characters like Imu, Xebec etc don't factor in here as we simply don't know

[@swordpiece]

I wish I'd mentioned that point about the environment.

[@josephbulkin9222]

Why can everybody in the story slice mountains in half like it's nothing? I thought One Piece was about pirates.

[@fatshibaballs]

What about those two things are mutually exclusive?

[@shmelzy82]

nah, Whitebeard is stronger but Garp isn’t, he’s a bit weaker than Roger

[@HIWHYAIWYAGD]

Garp & Roger = Haki, not DF, normal size. WhiteBeard = Haki, strongest DF, giant size.

[@theycallmejay2310]

WB= Supreme blade. Quake Quake DF. All 3 haki+ types. Giant size. Roger= Supreme Blade. All 3 haki+ types. Garp= fists. All 3 haki+ types.

[@toot1862]

"The Pirate King. The man who had the Greatest wealth, fame and 'POWER'." - Evidence by Oda. "Roger Conquered the seas with his Haki Alone." Evidence by the The Strongest creature in the world, and A former crew member of the Rocks Pirate. "WB was the only pirate who could rival Gold Roger in his prime." Evidence by Buggy, a former crew member of PK. In this line WB is being compared to Roger and not the other way around. "It took Roger and Garp teaming up together to take down Xebec." Evidence by Sengoku. This line alone discredits WB's title as The WSM, as no matter what you think, WB isn't beating Xebec. "Roger's greatest rival was neither WB or Garp. It was Xebec." Evidence again provided by Sengoku.

[@swordpiece]

I'm slowly starting to accept that people just use youtube videos as their personal soap boxes without actually watching.

[@toot1862]

​@@swordpieceNo, I watched it. Good video. I was just giving my own points. And I also liked the part where you debunked the Chapter zero dialogue where people bring up Crocus's dialogue about Roger being perfectly fine. As I basically tell them the same thing, that Rogers condition was fine for the moment, as in, his disease wasn't flaring up that day, rather than him not being affected by his disease at all.✌️

[@toptier347]

if it was god valley rocks vs god valley roger, god valley garp, god valley wb, rocks beats them 1v1. But god valley rocks vs prime roger, prime wb, prime garp, rocks loses each 1v1 and we dont even got any info on what rocks can do. So u can argue aganist this cus it aint proven

[@marietoudiarra9521]

Shinjao said it the pirate king is the conqueror among conqueror Roger's slightly above WB and Garp

[@toptier347]

that dont mean much. chinjao aint pirate king, how would he know ?

[@sooodesuneee]

Callin Bogard weak? really? lol

[@swordpiece]

It's a tragedy 😥

[@sooodesuneee]

@@swordpiece he was at god valley mang no wayyyyyy he weak D: D: D:

[@swordpiece]

@sooodesuneee F in the chat for Egghead ruining over 20 years of Bogard hype.

[@rasmusgarbonzo1411]

no they werent lmfao

[@Lineage4you2]

1. Roger forever has a +1 over WB because of GW ,where he and Garp got a W , and Rocks and his crew which inludes WB took an L this is a fact. 2.Roger at GW was stated and showcased to be the opponent of Xebeck a dude that was over WB at the time, not just that but he defeated Xebeck there as well. Source chapter 957 and 1096. 3. In oden flashback Roger got in the ring terminally ill with just haki while WB got in the ring in his prime health with haki and stongest paramecia df and the best WB cold pull after 3 days of fighting is a stalemate, Roger objectively is the better fighter just based on these stats alone. 4. Even after 20+ years after his death WB STILL could not surpass Roger bounty, is another feat in Roger`s favour, not to mention WB was always compared to Roger not the other way around. 5.Kaido haki statment about Roger, puts Roger`s haki feat above any of the yonko this includes WB.

[@toptier347]

what does gw mean? 1. we havent seen anything of god valley except for kuma flashback so theres no proof that wb took an L. rocks crew could hve literally just left. we havent seen the fight. all we seen of god valley was kuma flashback. 2. it was garp and roger vs rocks, said by sengoku even tho we seen only roger abt to fight in kuma flashback. we dont know abt the rest of the fight. 3. fighting when ur sick doesnt prove much. look at what wb did at marineford while he was sick. 4. bounty does not equal strength. we dont know what the reason y roger had highest bounty (most likely for becoming pirate king) wb never wanted to be pirate king and if we assume that rogers bounty was got from pirate king, wb didnt surpass his bounty cus he didnt want to get to laugh tale and become pirate king 5. kaido said roger didnt have a devil fruit only haki can be the best (something like that). that dont increase roger haki feats. koby has haki and no df but is his haki better than luffys(a yonko) haki ? just cus u only have haki dont mean it increases ur feats

[@Lineage4you2]

@@toptier347 GW means God Valley for short. 1. It was stated Rocks crew got wiped, so no they have not fleed, flee does not mean wiped, last time i checked words have meaning and they not even synonims. Also remember WB epic final moment? no scar on his back and all that? yeah WB not the type to turn on his captain OR flee. 2. It was Garp and Roger joining forces vs entire Rocks crew and fleet NOT a 1v2 lol. That is entirely YOUR headcannon there is no statment no panel even implying that. What we DO have is sengoku STATEMENT and it says :"Xebeck, Roger greatest foe" NOT "Garp and Roger greatest foe" ,THIS singles out Roger as Xebeck foe. Oh and look who do we have in Xebecks way in chapter 1096 right before haki sparks come off the island? Roger. I already stated the sources why are you preteneding like you don`t know who fought Xebeck? 3.Fighting someone when terminally sick AND still being a top tier makes said character THAT much more impresive. Im sure you do not mean to imply that WB in marineford terminally ill was just as powerfull as Prime healthy WB, same situation with Roger. 4. Bounties absolutley indicate strenght and power, look at all of luffy fights arc after arc, did their bounties go lower or higher? lmao you know the answer to that. The point with Roger bounty in this case is that from a story perspecitve, WB was always compated to Roger and it shows, not only in the feats that we see Roger do, like at GW or vs WB, but in this too to the point were even after 20+ years after his end ,WB STILL could not surpass Roger bounty. 5.Then why didn`t kaido mention, himself or WB ? or even xebeck then? It`s cause he saw first hand Roger`s haki and that`s who impressed him in that departement. The point is that there is no person in OP to date that acomplished with just haki what Roger did, which puts Roger haki above WB or any of the Yonko and is a feat at least in the haki departement in Roger`s favour.

[@toptier347]

@@Lineage4you2 1. rocks pirates got wiped. then y r they alice when luffy meets them. also them getting wiped doesnt mean 1 or 2 random rocks pirates ran away. when we saw garp fight the pirates we saw some normal pirates not the main crew so most likely some could escape. theres more of a chance that one escape then every single one getting wiped out. if they got wiped out, y they alive, even if its not confirmed, its the most likely situation that they ran away cus they got "wiped out" but they still alive. 2. If it was not a 1v2 then y did roger and garp need an alliance ? If roger could have won, y did he team up with garp. garp went there cus of roger but they teamed up their forces so if it wasnt 1v2, y did they team up. y did roger need garps help if it was not 1v2. 3. Being sick and doing well doesnt make u more impressive, look at doc q, he wins every battle hes apart of, grudge war, vs law, vs wb, vs ace. So now doc q is on roger and wb lvl ? 4. Buggy is stronger than croc ? Buggy is stronger than luffy ? 5. Well theres no way exact answer to this. kaido most likely mentioned roger cus he said a df can never take over the world and since roger was king of the pirates, that was the closest anyone got to taking over the world (rocks got beat so dont count) so he chose to compare it to roger. I said "most likely" cus theres not an answer to this.

[@Lineage4you2]

@@toptier347 wiped does not mean that they ended there, although some likely did, it means that the entire crew lost so badly that in the aftermath there wasn’t much left of this “op crew of monsters”.Also one of them was confirmed ended there which was Xebeck, and his confirmed opponent is Roger this showcases that roger 1v1 xebeck . You saying they ran is headcannon, why would the statement then not be “ Xebecks crew fleed from Roger and Garp joining forces? Since that is the headcannon you say, like i said words have meaning,all we know is that rocks crew got wiped which i further explained above what that could entail. Again you seem to confuse The statement from sengoku where he said that Roger and garp joined forces , he didn’t mention only Rocks, i suggest you go read again it said Rocks PIRATES which means all his crew and fleet that he came with Garp and Roger joined forces and defeated them.

[@Lineage4you2]

@@toptier347 also this for the other half of your comment since you edit. Regardin your illnes take with doc q lmao 1.If the character is top tier but is terminally ill, and fights another top tier that is health , and the healthy one cannot beat the sick one then yes the terminally ill character is automatically more impresive and the better fighter objectively, which is what my stance on this has been all along. You seem to have a very naive or flawed logic or lack thereof, which lead me to belive you either a fanboy that is not objective or argue in bad faith. 2.Regarding buggy, again your lack of logic or argue in bad faith, buggy is a comedic relief character, and is the only exception to what i said. Was kaido not higher bounty than Doffy? did the power increase not match the bounty increase? what about pre time skip , bellami power and bounty compared to say enel? was that not the same , and i can go on, but you seem to either not want to be objective cause you a fanboy or you keep bringing up bad faith argumetents that no one takes seriously in a debate. 3.yes there is Kaido mentioned Rogerit`s on you to disprove this with evidence like i did , but you keep bringing up headcannon while i bring up feats that puts Roger over certain characters.

[@Stance-u4y]

Are databooks actually Canon? Can you plz clarify it

[@primesonic4459]

More or less Until its directly countered by the Manga

[@Stance-u4y]

@@primesonic4459 You mean "Contradicted" by the manga?

[@primesonic4459]

@@Stance-u4y yes My bad

[@Stance-u4y]

@@primesonic4459 Ok thnx

[@toot1862]

Databooks and Vivrecards have been wrong before, as even if they are said to be under Oda's direction, they are at the end distributed by 3rd party publishers. If you want absolute canon info apart from the canon Manga there are only two sources. One is One Piece SbS and the other is Oda's letters. Info of both of these sources directly comes from ODA himself. As such are 100% Canon. Have never been wrong. No one can refute it.

[@lxfj2128]

Wb was stronger garp was equal to roger

[@FireAngelChris]

Simple quick answer No

[@somerandomguy8001]

Ootko suomesta?

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