Can Sonible's A.I. solve sibilance??? || sonible smart:deess

[@Whiteseastudio]

Last year I've interviewed one of the engineers from Sonible about A.I. --> kzbin.info/www/bejne/kHjIpaGhZ5dlj7c

[@henrikalliomeri900]

Sonible tutorials would be really great - make it happen and make us happy!

[@zacalakemusic]

I very much enjoy watching you with a new plugin and I appreciate the occasional fumble with controls. The fact that you let us mortals see this is a true comfort when I’m staring at a new interface and trying to remember why I bought it. :-)

[@Jrel]

Very impressed. It sounded perfect on its very first analysis.

[@theaarpgs]

Thanks for doing this. Might come in handy for our podcast.

[@phadrus]

Absolutely looking forward to the tutorials I love sonible, plug-ins and own quite a few

[@bmatt2626]

Sinuous, silvery streams of syllables, seamlessly dispensed? Super!

[@barefootaxel4847]

In the logotype, there's a clear gap between the two ee that indicates two words.

[@Lazdinger]

Deess is nuts! I go back to work now.

[@TazzSmk]

all-in Sonible overviews/tutorials would be nice, it's one of those companies recently very active, their portfolio is becoming overwhelming :)

[@ghostofpanama622]

Would love to see the Sonible tutorials

[@michaelknight141]

should have named it Smart:ess (smartass) 😄

[@Diablara-Difteroben]

I love smarties....I love it so much......

[@cheesepatrol2376]

sinaasappelsap is a belgian word. the dutch say "sjudorans"

[@74goldenjet]

Smartdees? Is it chocolate flavoured? 😁

[@DesoloZantas]

Smart: Deez lol

[@jps_24x36]

I’m sorry, but I can easily see a (small) space between ”de” and ”ess”. Don’t know how this is called in english (maybe i should google it, in french it’s ”espace fine”), but whatever width is the space, it has the same effect of separate two words. So, ”de-ess”, and not ”deess”

[@Whiteseastudio]

Deez

[@harrisondvargo72]

Would very much enjoy a series on the Sonible products, or even more interviews with their development team. Loved your interview with their CMO. A comparison series between the Pure and Smart plugins would also be neat. Might even be worth throwing in the FAST plugins from Focusrite since they use Sonible algorithms. I sense Sonible is going to be at the forefront of AI/machine learning software, so jumping on now seems like a good idea. As someone new to mixing, their AI is seriously speeding up my learning of mixing techniques. It's like having someone next to you while you mix alone, offering hints and suggestions on what might sound good. Can't recommend their stuff enough.

[@KeatingJosh]

Yes please! Tutorials would be great.. I have been using all of sonibles plugins since seeing your videos reviewing them earlier in the year

[@hubbalol]

Sonible really does some good stuff. One suggestion - would it be possible to make a quick comment on the latency on plugins you test in the future. Obviously it doesn't really matter for mixing engineers, but a lot of us producers use mixing tools during production and latency can really kill the usefulness of a plugin! It's been especially noticeable with newer spectral and/or ML/AI plugins compared to the dumber ones from yesteryear :) Cheers

[@Fastvoice]

... and maybe some words about the CPU usage. I have several sonible plugins and they seem to use a lot of it - up to the point where other plugins (from UAD) are getting disabled in a DAW session.

[@alexbreyer6921]

Even for people who are mixing...you get to a point in a production where you realize an overdub or punch in needs to happen, but you've already done all kinds of processing. That latency can affect the performance when you are trying to throw things in there.

[@Fastvoice]

@@alexbreyer6921 True words.

[@hubbalol]

@@alexbreyer6921 For sure true! All good reasons to start take notice of latency while test-driving the latest plugins :)

[@Mrfpsara]

It took me 5 min of trying the demo to buy this plug in, I have tested every de esser known to man, non are perfect and somebody somewhere will complain, this one is just close to perfection. Tutorials yes please!

[@tombuur]

I have most of Sonibles plugins, smart, pure and even FAST. However, I don’t think they help me. So I end up using something else. I dowloaded Deess demo and compared it with Fabfilter Pro DS. I still had to tweek Deess after its analysis, and results were not better than what I got with Pro DS, about the same, actually. So I am not buying this one.

[@Tekkerue]

My favorite de-esser is still Melodyne 5's sibilance tool. It's not real time, but it gives so much control.

[@samphelps856]

Does it cut under 1k? I can't stand most of the ripping/distorted sounds and by cutting everything under 1k in a sibilance really makes it sweeter

[@LazerEyeDog]

smart deess nutz

[@rhinewater]

I'm kind of on the fence about buying the Sonible smart plugins, because I don't NEED another eq, another compressor, etc. But, learning more about the extra bits and bobs that these plugins can do might just be what makes up my mind to buy, so happy to see future videos covering those.

[@faober3594]

Anything AI or SMART within a mixing context is to this date a big no for me.

[@erwinm187]

would definitely love to see sonible tutorials!

[@this_is_jmdub]

I think on balanced source material like your recording it's not doing better than a standard de-esser. I will try it on some heavy stuff, bad recordings.. excited to see how it performs

[@fredtimothy940]

Often instead of removing the S (knocking the singer’s teeth out), I just want to change the S characteristics to be smoother (implants). Waves Sibilance held a lot of promise with Organic Resynthesis, they promised to do just that. I wonder how Sonible Dees stacks up against Waves Sibilance?

[@amusik7]

I'm actually using both and I must say the Waves Sibilance is still my favourite for de-essing. No matter how hard you push it it's just so good and natural sounding without any artefacts. I have had some issues with the Sonible Deess that it can sound lispy or oddly digital on certain sounds (I'm not sure if my ears are failing me - but that's what I thought). On the other hand, it's amazingly good at plosives. So I'm super happy using Sonible for plosives and Waves Sibilance for de-essing.

[@muddyblue]

Yes please, show us your sonible tutorials !

[@PeterPiklMusic]

Yes please. Turtorials!!! Thanks for all your efforts... :)

[@spicewiczmusic]

i would watch and rewatch these tutorials, i have smart bundle (except this one), so i would definitely benefit from it. i currently use hornet de esser, but i love sonible UI's, so i'm considering buying this one as well

[@huberttorzewski]

Every de-esser seem to sound very different. Waves vs Izotope vs Fabfilter vs Uad vs this one or Softube in Mike-E all are sounding really different. Everyone needs to find what is working best for their mixing style and their taste. This one is not for me definitely based on the sound of sibilance in this video. Sounds a bit artificial

[@realraven2000]

i must say out of all the non AI deessers mentioned (including sybillance, Renaissance and Pro DS) I really like the Lindell from PA most.

[@RudeRecording]

Finding that Sonible plugins big time savers on my work. I typically record live events that go for hours. I've found a lot of the other de-essing plugins way too fussy unless you are working on just one song/one performance at a time. On many occasions I've had to resort to manually reducing plosives and sibilance.

[@J-DUB-F1]

Ok this is going to be really, really good!..... I can already hear there's a sweet spot there, that you can reach pretty quickly. A tutorial would be very nice as a reference 😉👍

[@LondonSteveLee]

£75 for a de-esser? No thanks.

[@MattTruemother]

Tutorial yes plz! Thank you for all your vids!

[@testlab6643]

While I really love Sonible plugins and the Deess is not an exception, it lacks a crucial thing. Did you hear that it doesn't recognize "f's"? Not just a tiny bit, no, completely. Which means that I have to manually correct every "f" or use a second de-esser. Quite a big miss in my book. Other than that it is the quickest and best sounding de-esser I have ever used, software and hardware wise.

[@JohnDLewis]

Oh dear. You complained so much about the need to push a button to analyse vocals that you missed the little button beneath that big green "analyze button". It says something like "auto analyse on start-up". Would that help?

[@DariuszBlasi]

it's nothing new....and not really good..Was excited to have 2 tools in one but it's just does not fix problems - only intruduces more..the tone gets darker with deesing and deplosing is a hit and miss - better to do it manualy.

[@dddocmusic]

Ye go for it.. love smart eq

[@beehype46and2]

Comment for da algorithm Streak count: 197 Sooo closee

[@skinnyhastrup4614]

I'm curious: What plugin would anyone use to smoothen bitalisaing noise, besides a rude low pass?

[@jeyz1176]

I would be happy to see a smart:comp 2 tutorial and in particular the best way to spectrally sidechain the instrumental to the vocal lead.

[@samuelbreuer]

Use FUSER by Mastering the Mix for spectral sidechaining! It is a bargain and incredibly useful

[@omicron-prsnl9806]

Deess:Nuts by Sonible

[@djramel7805]

Your turorials for Sonible plugins would be much appretiated as I use all of their smart ones.

[@lookmomonlycomputer]

I've tested this one today with singer, not really like the result...

[@marcvoss]

What deesser you prefer instead?

[@lookmomonlycomputer]

@@marcvoss pro-ds is for me the best i have ftm... not tried yet to do on isotope rx...

[@Illkacirma]

yay ! it's the right sweater : dEEss - kafmEEs ! soundfashionmonsters ahoi !

[@Newerasamearea]

Repackage smart comp with a different control panel. Genius

[@stephenroldan5107]

Sonible update smart bundle first to work with sonoma. Damn

[@carbine781]

U should’ve tested it with the Dutch words “darude sandstorm”

[@ralphjamesmaier]

Always enjoy your videos. Sonible tutorial would be great!

[@wpierdolecki]

You should get some recordings in polish for your tutorial - tons of esses in our language 😁

[@MarcoRaaphorst]

Seems to be spectral based. Not sure if it is better than the iZotope De-ess using spectral mode which I think is the bomb.

[@danayurcisin]

Would def like a tutorial on how you use Pro DS!

[@jedidiahgirio]

Hopefully they come out with a version for the Pure line to follow this soon with a similar or same algorhythm.

[@Fastvoice]

Of course they will.

[@jedidiahgirio]

@@Fastvoice I meant soon lol

[@massivebeatzz]

the fear of sibilance is one thing people need to fix....the sqashed sss...in every production that sounds lisp or someone not having teeth...is too much. An S should be an S!

[@emmaair4699]

Yes, Sonible Tutorials Please

[@JohnWuMastermind]

Goodbye to all my de essers. This must be the cleanest so far ❤

[@Xylume]

I've compared Sonible to my other plugins today. Sonible does a better job by being more thorough, transparent, and natural sounding. I'm still going to keep the others for other instruments or busses.

[@tomix1970pl1]

What about your nails today?Luck of rainbow?

[@harrisondvargo72]

DEEZ NUTS

[@weedwick9888]

I see super cubes from russia, nice stuff

[@darrenhill123]

Nothing is more intelligent than your own brain and a pair of ears. Sorry guys, nothing will convince me to part with this amount of money for something I can do without thinking at all.

[@stephenroldan5107]

Never worked with goth singers. 😂

[@gertkeunen2720]

I'm wondering how this works on a full mix/in mastering (as a potential replacement for Softube Weiss mastering de-esser)?

[@eranddroory9987]

Is that an affiliate link or what? The link I get going to their website is different from what you have posted here!

[@Whiteseastudio]

Did you watch the full video? I'm disclosing this pretty clearly...

[@jonathanparismusic]

Any update on your conclusions?? 😄

[@sabothawk]

Am I the only one who typed the Dutch word in Google translate and got "Orange Juice Effect"? 😊 I think I liked the sound but would love to hear your update on this plugin, since I think this is one application Sonible's AI could really blow away other approaches. It reminds me of the Sibilance plugin from Waves, but I'm intrigued by the tone shaping controls offered here.

[@mintyswirljoy]

I'm surprised you don't have an SS'y vocal which you know the issues and you compare to who you used to fix. I've tried EVERY De-esser as I have an SS'y vocalist I work with. :) The Eiosis e2deesser does it now for me! I'll compare to this.

[@timoheinrich8763]

Service post on "What's a phoneme?" A phoneme is the top category of phons with a phon being a single utterance of a speech sound - for example: [s]. All [s] that anyone ever uttered are then part of the phoneme /s/. I expected the plug-in to treat different phonemes, differently (like for example the sibilants in thick, sick and chic). But apparently it's only making a difference between plosives and sibilants which are categories above phonemes.

[@CheloScotti]

includes pure:eq or smart:eq a de:esser?

[@hariputer3585]

Wouldn't a smart tutorial for smart (Sonible) plugins be a smart idea? Looks like...😉 Thanks.

[@joost3783]

For me its Melodyne sibilance tool in combination with the 902, I feel like I get control and a predictable outcome like this. Also I don't get all those AI type plugins and I did try many of them -- the time it takes the "AI" to learn the settings is longer than it takes me to dial in the settings + the settings the plugin dials in most often are very basic and uninteresting

[@BartekEVH]

It's already terrible, there are probably 50 deessers on the market. Have you tried this one from SSL? 😮😮

[@toavnwub]

Smart deeznuts 😂

[@GTSongwriter]

Not really sold on this one.

[@jeffkomzbeats]

the analysis part is awesome... tell me about ARA analysis just as in Melodyne integration in Cubase? Killer vibes only... 😂😂😂😂

[@AlexProgOfficial]

Pro DS is in my wish list. Do you think Smart:Deess could be a better option?

[@cowlegoblonski]

Pro ds in all round mode with split can take care of all your needs

[@SHUB1DUB]

Tutorials would be awesome!!

[@WilliamAshleyOnline]

Is it smart Deeeeeeeeeeees or Smart Deee S

[@moritzsur997]

Sonible are the GOAT

[@KeatingJosh]

Maybe a bit for you to catch this comment but could you explore using this on instruments as well such as acoustic guitar as it is a great technique with some other de-esser's.. at least I find this myself

[@vissy21]

Some Sonible tutorials would be awesome. I’ve found they’ve crept into my workflow but feel there’s more depth to them than maybe I’m wringing out, thanks in advance!

[@everybodyhasoul5438]

Interested to hear more engineers weighing in on this one.

[@Boshy2222]

Yes please, make tutorials 😀

[@DJayFreeDoo]

Seems to work well, but doesn't seem to me yet to be anything revolutionary. I tend to gravitate towards Eiosis E2.

[@herealbutler]

Yes make the tutorials please

[@daja2946]

Yes! Would love to see your tutorial on Sonible's Deesser! Thanks for all your great reviews. I learn a lot.

[@MartimDurao]

Yes please and also the full Focusrite collective plug-ins in partnership with sonible…

[@assshakerstudios549]

Huh. I still to this day lower the gain of energy s, t, and p, that's offensive and needs de essing. If you don't, your lazy. Heard this plugin and it sounded bad so it's a flat no from me.

[@TomBelknapRoc]

I definitely want to know your conclusions after having worked with the plugin for a bit. If that turns into a tutorial, great!

[@peterheinen6110]

The Lindell 902 is my de-esser of choice. Can even use it on the master buss without overall sound loss

[@TheSakuraGumiLTD]

The Dutch Word by Darude

[@Barncore]

Sonible tutorials for sure

[@elrevientaesquinas]

Yes, do it

[@electroBRATstudios]

That would be fantastic if you made some deep dives into all the family of Sonible- thank you!!!

[@GR-M3]

Sonible tutorials would be welcome as I use these VST3s on a daily basis.

[@guyvermearns]

Yes please I would love to see the sonible tutorial video, i love using their plugins.

[@Relvoet]

yes please! I'dd like some in depth tutorials on the smart-plugins :)

[@tekis0]

I picked this up!